LiNcK'z Botz

[LiNcK]

Why the normals anyway..? How are they usefull?
They just make axes unusefull & Just with a txt edit u cant quit those normals :\

[Clickbeetle]

Why the normals anyway..? How are they usefull?

Because it's unrealistic that a tooth that's only sharp on one side would do damage with the flat side, and DSL is supposed to be realistic.  Or at least more realistic than stock.

But in DSL3, components with normals will have increased stats to make up for it.

[Naryar]

But in DSL3, components with normals will have increased stats to make up for it.

I call this unbalanced. It's not very difficult to build a design that negates the effect of normals...

[LiNcK]

Why dont he just makes all components without normals?
Lets say there are 100 weapon in the game, 17 have normals & 13 of those arent used coz of the normals.
Those are 13 weapons lost that nobody ever uses...

[JoeBlo]

as said before think of a weapon like a ripping tooth,

hitting a robot the opposite way is going to do 0 damage in real life to you need to implment that in the game

I am not afraid of normals myself and Have made effective designs with them

I think increasing damage at the cost of it only being at that one point is a good idea 

[LiNcK]

But its not completly true... For exsample:
You have a weapon with a sharp side & a flat side, Why would it have normals if the flat side could also do some damage (While spinning), It does less damage ofcourse, But it does damage, Like a super mini hammer :P

Heres an example:


The weapon on the rigth could do damage from the sharp side aswell as from the flat side.
The weapon in the right is just a retarded beater bar ^^"

You can smack someone with the sharp side of a knfie & Cut them but you can also smack them with the flat side of it & still hurt them :P

Its all about the strenght of the hit, Not the form... Everything does damage, But differently.

[JoeBlo]

I understand that, which is why things like hammers or irons shouldn't have normals

but think of other things like the teeth



they would do virtually no damage the other way

[Reier]

What about Vlad spikes though?

[JoeBlo]

didnt we work out the vlad spikes do damage at the tip and the thin sides ? making them realistic as the flat side would only dent a robot IRL

[Reier]

Would it?

[LiNcK]

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Ok, But thats especifically for the Teeth... But what about the axes? You can still smack the outta bots with the flat side xP

[LiNcK]

I, LiNcK, Promote the use Axes more often in bots!! *Proud*
Here's a "Normalised" (Coz the Axes have normals..?) version of Zei-N-Zure: Gothikiller


Outside


Inside

Stats:

Drive: E-Tek Drive (x4)
Weapons: Gothic Axe (x4) & DSL Bar (x4)
Armour: Titanium x5 & Upper Steel Sheet

Incase youre wondering why the name... Its not only coz of the Axes, If youre strong enough to beat its Titanium Sheet youre cursed to see Th3 Zp1nn1nG p3nt4gr4m 0f d34tH!!! (Mwhahaha...?... Seriously, Fear it...)
It just fitted the name xD



Havent tested it yet, But i dont think its any better than other SnSes out there, Including Zei-N-Zure :P

[The Ounce]

I would recommend using just 4 ants, and you don't need that much top armor, maybe just a couple of metal skirts.  Add a halfsheet to the bottom and add more weapons with the leftover weight.

[JoeBlo]

great to see another person innovating normals 

also those are battle axes if I am not mistaken, Gothic ones are single sided

defiantly overpowered for an SnS you can get away with much less, I use 4 ants on Betting Limts which had to power 4 NPC Fasts and 8 flamethrowers

bottom armor is more important then top armors as hammers will have trouble fighting SnS robots

[The Ounce]

bottom armor is more important then top armors as hammers will have trouble fighting SnS robots

Agreed, but you'll never know when you come across one of those pesky true popups...

[Naryar]

Dude you need more weapons.

[Reier]

Fight
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1606tofusplash.png
and we'll see if it's still the best SnS on the block. :P

[LiNcK]

Here's the new version, With double the weapons ;D
Gothikiller II


Outside


Inside

About the bottom armour, I cant put it... The motors prevent me from putting a halfsheet down there, I wish there were bottom extenders :S

And IDK wich of the 3 wheels i can put are better; The N-14 the Fatboy (IDK If Its The Real Name) or the Muddy Wheel.
I chose the N-14 (Or N-12) wheel, It seemed better..?

It also has one HUGE weakness... If the DSL Bars on the top get destroyed, The polycarbonate extenders beneath are dead X_X

& i changed the armour to Plastic x1 (Incredibly bad since it doesnt have bottom armour)

[The Ounce]

Out of those three wheels, the best would be the Fatboys, but the ideal choice for this would be vlads; they have the same HP and grip as Fatboys, but are also smaller and lighter, and give you a better ground clearance.

For the weakness, try to attach each of the bars to multi extenders, and see if you can get better armor.   

[LiNcK]

I updated Zei-N-Zure, I basically just removed 3 Ants & Upgraded the armour to Titanium x3

Fight
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1606tofusplash.png
and we'll see if it's still the best SnS on the block. :P

Dont challenge me, Dude: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1746.msg62105.html#msg62105
 
 

Out of those three wheels, the best would be the Fatboys, but the ideal choice for this would be vlads; they have the same HP and grip as Fatboys, but are also smaller and lighter, and give you a better ground clearance.
For the weakness, try to attach each of the bars to multi extenders, and see if you can get better armor.   

Thankz! I did it... I put on Vlad Wheels & Changed the armour to Plastic x5, But i dont understand what you mean with the bars & Extender thing :S