Kossokei's DSL Showcase: "Dustiest IRL Builder"

[Badnik96]

You can remove the plow in back, opponents don't go for the rear.

[Scrap Daddy]

I think you've got some potentential, just dont let these bastards suck all the originality out of you with their generic advice.

[Celestial Panda]

In terms of your Schrimech, I would recommend either two BSGs, or using a polycarb extender instead. That makes what's on the BSG slightly lighter, which improves the Schrimech ability (somehow).

[cephalopod]

I think you've got some potentential, just dont let these bastards suck all the originality out of you with their generic advice.

This. It looks super cool, even if it's not 'efficient'.

[Mr. AS]

I think you've got some potentential, just dont let these bastards suck all the originality out of you with their generic advice.

moar razors

but no really he needs to build efficient before he can start making bots that are original AND efficient

[Kossokei]

I think you've got some potentential, just dont let these bastards suck all the originality out of you with their generic advice.

This made me lol a little bit, but it improved the out of The Power.

Much faster, can gut-rip, srimechs are now much better and they actually work. (AND no stacking :D)
Does decent damage now, and can beat almost all of the MW's, and some of the HW's, so that's an improvement.

And these are the lovely innards. 6 ants, Carbon Fiber arms for the srimech, breaks way easy but it's efficient. Replaced the Matilda teeth with beaters, got rid of the Canines, I realized that they were taking up too much weight so I put those spikes. Suggestions? Questions? Equestrians? (Armor is either Titanium 3 or Steel 1, one of those two.)

I'll be showcasing "The Damage" in a little bit, gotta get into a ninja fight with my laziness.

[Mr. AS]

its better than the original, but s3 wheels fail really, get some wheels with better grip like technos, and back armor is useless when the AI only attacks head on, the drums interecting the motor is unrealistic, you'd be better off with smaller drums and larger beater bars, and 30kg ramplates are bad compared to most other armor choices, just divide hp by weight and you'll see what i mean, srimechs are also useless when you can just make it invertable

and i hope its ti 3 because st 1 is just bad

edit- this will help https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5739.0.html

[Conraaa]

and back armor is useless when the AI only attacks head on

I'd debate this, personally. I'm pretty sure AI just aims for the other robot, regardless of position. At least that's how it works in my experience.
Anyway, aesthetically wise:
-I'd got for another type of wheel, possibly Tazbot, just because S3 wheels just look odd comparatively.
-How about DSL bars instead of those titanium plates for side armour? It'd look neater with the rest of the bot.
-If you are going for a more IRL type look, how about using a Judge Burst motor instead of two BSG's? It would save on battery weight. You could connect it to a extender, then to the back shell segment, making a srimech/flipper combo.
-And i'm not really seeing the point of the Disk on top, all it seems to be doing is hampering invertability.

But having said all that, I like it! I think the lightning spikes on the drum look especially cool.

[Kossokei]

and back armor is useless when the AI only attacks head on

I'd debate this, personally. I'm pretty sure AI just aims for the other robot, regardless of position. At least that's how it works in my experience.
Anyway, aesthetically wise:
-I'd got for another type of wheel, possibly Tazbot, just because S3 wheels just look odd comparatively.
-How about DSL bars instead of those titanium plates for side armour? It'd look neater with the rest of the bot.
-If you are going for a more IRL type look, how about using a Judge Burst motor instead of two BSG's? It would save on battery weight. You could connect it to a extender, then to the back shell segment, making a srimech/flipper combo.
-And i'm not really seeing the point of the Disk on top, all it seems to be doing is hampering invertability.

But having said all that, I like it! I think the lightning spikes on the drum look especially cool.

If I remember correctly when I tried the Tazbots, they weren't large enough to give the drum space to work. I'll look into that again. The disk on top is to defend from VH robots, usually what they do is reach over my drum and pound their name into the top of my bot. It's not much, but it's better than taking hits directly to the chassis. The Power is very vulnerable to VH's, SnS's, HH (Horizontal Hammer) and some Face spinners and Vertical spinners.

its better than the original, but s3 wheels fail really, get some wheels with better grip like technos, and back armor is useless when the AI only attacks head on, the drums interecting the motor is unrealistic, you'd be better off with smaller drums and larger beater bars, and 30kg ramplates are bad compared to most other armor choices, just divide hp by weight and you'll see what i mean, srimechs are also useless when you can just make it invertable

and i hope its ti 3 because st 1 is just bad

edit- this will help https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5739.0.html

Thanks! I was looking for something like that, so thanks for linking me. I'd rather have something behind my robot to hold out if I ever get blindsided, the rear end of a bot is usually the most unguarded, even the best DSL AI expose their rear end, like Shogun.

[Badnik96]

Get larger beater bars and smaller drums, it will do more damage that way. I would use DSL bars instead of those 30kg ramplates because as Mr. AS said they suck. I'd replace the S3 wheels with Slipperbottom wheels honestly. I like the IRLness of it so far though.

[Kossokei]

Get larger beater bars and smaller drums, it will do more damage that way. I would use DSL bars instead of those 30kg ramplates because as Mr. AS said they suck. I'd replace the S3 wheels with Slipperbottom wheels honestly. I like the IRLness of it so far though.

The Tazbots look and function very good on The Power. They give it an extremely limited ground clearance, which is good and bad in my opinion.

Alright, I'm going to post my next bot now. It was made and edited before The Power, and I call it The Damage.


Totally rebuilt it, it's gone through many stages and this is the most recent one. Titanium 5, 4 ants for the drives and 2 or 3 more for the srimech, and the 60 watt battery is also for the srimech. (burst motor is 70 watts, + 30 more is 100 so 100 watts for good measure.)


I took the advice of leaving less space in the chassis, so yeah. It's packed like a freakin' suitcase in there. Does some pretty good damage, hence the name. It's overkill fast, almost too fast. I couldn't use castors because it would tip over because of the weight of the saw, and the ballasts weren't enough help, so I used those cute little skis.

[Tweedy]

You could still make the chassis smaller and Use multiextenders over baseplate anchors as they weight less and do the same job while taking up less space

[Kossokei]

You could still make the chassis smaller and Use multiextenders over baseplate anchors as they weight less and do the same job while taking up less space

Do multiextenders really work that way? I never knew that, I thought they worked the same as the normal extenders (polycarb, aluminium, titanium, steel)

Edit: I feel like I chose poorly about the weapons components, like the teeth, Killalot spikes and the Dual E-tek, any suggestions?

[Badnik96]

You could still make the chassis smaller and Use multiextenders over baseplate anchors as they weight less and do the same job while taking up less space

Do multiextenders really work that way? I never knew that, I thought they worked the same as the normal extenders (polycarb, aluminium, titanium, steel)

Nope, you can attach them to the baseplate and use them as anchors.

[Gauche Suede]

for the weapon, you can go 2 ways:
VS:ditch the e-tek and the srimech,shrink the chassis,and then get 2 perm 132s and use a Beater bar+small ds tooth on a 100 cm disc
Drum:lower the chassis height, shrink the chassis as always, and then get 2 dual axle eteks(the one you're using currently)and then get a weapon slave hex plate and then make a triangular drum by using a Beater bar + small ds tooth, or if you're lazy you can get a drum component and then make a 4 sided durm by using a Beater bar + small ds tooth.

[cephalopod]

Why 2 dual axle eteks? You crazy.

Anyway, I'd recommend saving weight by using either flipper segments or DSL Bars in place of the steel extenders you seem to be using, and use multi-extenders as previously mentioned. If you want to keep the kind of style it has, I'd make the discs smaller and use larger teeth - maybe cutting teeth or something (inb4 NORMALLLZ). Maybe just remove the middle motor arrangement and use a Perm 180 or whatever they are - they're pretty powerful and you could mount on both sides (but it wouldn't be IRL due to the axle having no support).

Have a play around with a few of the ideas I/the other guys mentioned and see what you think, you can always get advice from one of us if need be :D

[Kossokei]

I actually moved the srimech to where it is now facing towards the back of the bot, and flips it back onto it's wheels much more reliably than that sideways arrangement I had it in. I would use a Perm 160 (I'd have to use an 80, actually) but I can't figure out how to get it to incline like I have the E-tek doing. The Matilda teeth I have on it do a fair bit of damage so I'll keep them, and they're light (not all that strong though)

Another thing, I can't get the Flipper segments to face the right way. When I attach them to a baseplate anchor, extender or sometimes even to each other, they face to the side, most of the time it's to the left. The only way I get them to face forward is if I do the 60/30 thing or whatever it is where one side is wedged, and even then it gives me a pointless inclination. Halp?

[Gauche Suede]

I actually moved the srimech to where it is now facing towards the back of the bot, and flips it back onto it's wheels much more reliably than that sideways arrangement I had it in. I would use a Perm 160 (I'd have to use an 80, actually) but I can't figure out how to get it to incline like I have the E-tek doing. The Matilda teeth I have on it do a fair bit of damage so I'll keep them, and they're light (not all that strong though)

Another thing, I can't get the Flipper segments to face the right way. When I attach them to a baseplate anchor, extender or sometimes even to each other, they face to the side, most of the time it's to the left. The only way I get them to face forward is if I do the 60/30 thing or whatever it is where one side is wedged, and even then it gives me a pointless inclination. Halp?

you mean have the axle raised approx 45 degrees into the air? then use the 2nd or 4th Attachment Point(the ones that are angled)

[cephalopod]

Do you know how to use alternative attachment points? When you click an item in the botlab, look in the preview window and you should see, on certain components, some 'screws'. Clicking one will let you attach the component using that point.
You can use this to raise your perm in 2 ways. Using the other points, as GS suggested, or like I do on my VS (vertical spinners) using a multi-extender and flipper segment - check my VS in THIS PHOTO. :3

[Kossokei]

Do you know how to use alternative attachment points? When you click an item in the botlab, look in the preview window and you should see, on certain components, some 'screws'. Clicking one will let you attach the component using that point.
You can use this to raise your perm in 2 ways. Using the other points, as GS suggested, or like I do on my VS (vertical spinners) using a multi-extender and flipper segment - check my VS in THIS PHOTO. :3

Figured that out seconds before that post was made, but nice SnS/SS bot and nice VS!

Anyway, dusting off this old thread to show the changes I've made to The Power.


Aww man datz bootiful. Rebuilt the chassis according to Clickbeetle's tutorial on the Beetlebros' site. The sides go inward so it shed some weight, and I chopped off a little bit from the ends of the front. The wheels are snug as a bug in a rug with a smug face fugging a pug. Yes, fugging. Made the drums smaller and the beaters bigger (because of the chassis changes, I had to switch out Tazbots for these kawaii little DSL wheels. They get the job done.) Made a new booty protector, to protect mah booty (it's made of Hexes and DSL bars, it's sexeh) and the new Srimech..



is one big Flipper segment. 5 or 6 ants, two 27 watt batteries for the Magmotor (that thing takes like 40 watts to use, holy crap it better be good) Swapped out the Perm 160 for 2 little Piglets mounted on a hex, they spin like mad and do a ton of damage, and thanks to the hex I can add DSL bars to protect my piggies.

Comment? Quest-shun? Concerto?