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Title: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 01, 2010, 08:37:23 PM: Here are two of my robots first Canadian Warrior:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48539screenshot.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72183screenshot_2.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94564screenshot_6.JPG)

1001 Problems:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17236screenshot_1.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16993screenshot_3.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5398screenshot_4.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Somebody on July 01, 2010, 08:39:53 PM: Keep DSL vs. DSL and Stock vs. Stock in Battles.
Build to the weight limit. Don't use Piglets for drive. Don't leave empty space.

Learn these. Or Naryar will kill you.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 01, 2010, 08:48:33 PM: Fighting RFS AI in DSL= NO.
Piglets for drive= NO.
Weapons with normals = NO.
Gigundo Chassis= NO.

You have much to learn, young Padawan.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 01, 2010, 08:54:38 PM: wHY WOULD YO Udl A STOCK ai PACK TO dsl?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 01, 2010, 09:30:29 PM: I don't have the stock mixed with it. Anyways a new bot Space Catapult:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73516screenshot_5.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40477screenshot_7.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35851screenshot_8.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: JoeBlo on July 01, 2010, 09:35:00 PM: nice but you dont need those airtanks, they are only for pistons

also try ant batteries, it will help you keep you chassis smaller so you can use external Armour
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: SKBT on July 01, 2010, 09:40:13 PM: Those black batteries you are using waste weight because the amount of power they have is so close to a battery 5kg's lighter.

The large black batteries in the same dropdown would be a better choice for powering you bot.

The motors you used for drive motors were not intended for drive. Try the drive E-tecks in the dropdown menu with the other E-tecks.

Also why do you have air tanks in there? I don't see any flamethrowers or pnuematic rams in there.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 01, 2010, 09:56:18 PM: I think he thought the Beta motor was a burst motor and he was doing it for realism.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Somebody on July 01, 2010, 10:06:56 PM: Use the big control board if you can. Its lighter.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 02, 2010, 04:52:52 AM: You have everything to learn visibly...

Here. Look at this : https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Naryar%27s_DSL_tips (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Naryar%27s_DSL_tips)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 02, 2010, 10:11:49 AM: Space Catapult looks like something you could make IRL.

Don't use air tanks for burst motors.
The big black batteries are better for this bot. (try saying that 5 times fast)
Don't use those motors for drive, use the E-TEK drive motors instead.
Use grippier wheels, like vlads or technoes.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 02, 2010, 07:12:02 PM: Replace the E-Teks with NPC's, is maybe what I'd do, use the larger 30kg battery instead of the Longs (They apparently suck) if you want that much power, and remove the airtanks. I might use different wheels, too, Mud Runner wheels have a low HP compared to others. Maybe use Technos.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 03, 2010, 12:26:47 AM: Mud Runners have high fracture, so if he wants to use it with DRIVE VERSION E-teks it's fine.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 03, 2010, 01:32:35 PM: Next Bot Extreme Xterminator:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10875screenshot_10.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77696screenshot_9.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34122screenshot_11.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: SKBT on July 03, 2010, 01:37:32 PM: Quote from: SKBT on July 01, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
Those black batteries you are using waste weight because the amount of power they have is so close to a battery 5kg's lighter.

The motors you used for drive motors were not intended for drive. Try the drive E-tecks in the dropdown menu with the other E-tecks.

Take the advice above. Or in this case try to make that bot a middle weight. Just drop the motors down to NPC's and use a slightly smaller diameter disk.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: The Ounce on July 03, 2010, 01:41:14 PM: Also the way you attached the disk to the Perm makes it unrealistic. Use the other attachment point.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 03, 2010, 01:44:19 PM: 1) Build To The Weight Limit
2) Minimise Empty Chasis Space
3) Use Drive Motors
4) Don't Use Long Black Batts
5) Overpowered, Only Needs 3 Ant Batts, 4 Prefferably
6) Use Grippier Wheels, Technos If You Want It Fast
7) Needs A Wider Stance To Be Stable
8) Unrealistic, Cuts Through The Axle On The Perm 80, Mount The Disc On The Other Attatchment Point
9) Don't Use Exposed Polycarb Extenders
10) HW's Need More Than One Perm 80, Use Either 2 Perm *Insert Correct Number Here*'s Or One Dual Perm
11) Listen To Other's Advice

Your Bot Has The Correct Features To Be Good, They Just Need To Be Developed
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: martymidget on July 03, 2010, 02:45:08 PM: NPC fasts with technos would be good here if given a wide enough stance. Turning will be a problem though, as it is on VS. Use 4 ants, though 3 should work fine. Use stronger skirts for stabilisers, like titanium and try not to expose the extenders. Dual perm or 6 mag will be better for this (for one disk). Could possibly add more weapons and shrink the chassis. What is the chassis armour?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 03, 2010, 04:03:08 PM: Still a massive improvement from 1001 Problems though! :P
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 03, 2010, 06:00:00 PM: Quote from: Naryar on July 03, 2010, 12:26:47 AM
Mud Runners have high fracture, so if he wants to use it with DRIVE VERSION E-teks it's fine.
I started out with Mud Runners on Valid Query 2, and Grog took all of them off in around 29 seconds.

Also, it's a big improvement from 1001 Problems, but still a lot to learn. I reckon Badnik's got it pretty much spot on here.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 04, 2010, 03:19:45 PM: New Robot:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77966screenshot.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66095screenshot_1.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73844screenshot_2.jpg)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 04, 2010, 03:39:04 PM: Fight HWs against HWs & LWs against LWs
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 05, 2010, 01:48:25 PM: Uhhhhhhhhhh

Shrink the chassis

use 6-8 ants for it

use shinies

use Irons

never use pole spikes or clubs

use a bigger snapper
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: G.K. on July 05, 2010, 01:52:37 PM: Why Shinies?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Bubbleman on July 05, 2010, 02:02:04 PM: I would use a beta burst for this, and use titanium instead of failuminium. also, use techno's instead of mud tires, and move the bat's around and use 2 60kg black bat's and 4 ants.

I also say @sparkey
Quote from: G.K. on July 05, 2010, 01:52:37 PM
Why Shinies?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: G.K. on July 05, 2010, 02:02:45 PM: No, it's 4 Black batts and 4 ants.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: RedSawn on July 05, 2010, 02:08:14 PM: What I can see:

- Hmm, the thing's a mess.
- The clubs won't do much as the spikes of them are the damaging point, so basically you just made some air-powered nudge. People around here only really go for frontal weapons too. It's not a bad practice, just saying.
- A single flipper BSG would probably only work in the lightweight class or lower - every other class is too heavy to be budged. You have too much weight on it too for it to be effective too. (Flippers really should be as light on the flipping arm as possible)
- Too many batteries there, far too many. I'd probably give it just 5 ants myself, going off the layout and making it efficient (probably dropping it down into the LW class) . That'll allow you to really reduce the chassis size.

I might make my own take on this.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: martymidget on July 05, 2010, 02:12:22 PM: Sparkey seems to have started giving DSL advice then switched to stock. XD

Try a beta burst for the flipping weapon, 2 if you want it to be a pure flipper.

Back weapons aren't necessary, really. Needs moar armour at the front if its gonna be a flipper (or most anything), and probably a wedge, or smaller, chassis. See Second Sentinel (NAR one is better though:P) for help.

For a poker, on the other hand, it'll need more weapons. Use the large puma tanks as they are more efficient (if i remember right). Razors/Sir K drills/Irons and some other weapons which I can't think of right now (a hand please?:P) would be better than Spiked Clubs and pointy tips. Eye stabber would be a good one to look at, even though its weapons have normals (Can't think of any better atm).

Vlads/Hypnos would probably be ok for this bot, or even technos if you want it to be really fast. Is that NPCF drive? If not, use it :P

Also, what is the chassis armour? I know its aluminium, but it would help if we knew precisely what it was. Also, build to the weight limit. I would like to see what you have done to Extreme Xterminator myself- that could be a darned good bot.

EDIT: Damnit, I took so long typing this in a thoughtful manner that people have beaten me to it :P
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 05, 2010, 02:46:05 PM: Sorry, I was thinking stock XD
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 05, 2010, 03:41:17 PM: Go and have a long look at the wikipage i posted !
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 05, 2010, 04:40:20 PM: Next Bot Booster Launch 3000:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16974screenshot_13.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26662screenshot_14.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50573screenshot_12.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 05, 2010, 04:46:33 PM: Go and have a look at other people's showcases.

It's not correctly powered also.

And the front wedges aren't doing much.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 05, 2010, 04:46:50 PM: Unrealistice. And you sig is laggy BTW.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on November 11, 2010, 09:58:19 PM: New robot Hungover on Jack Daniels
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44996screenshot_2.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39157screenshot_3.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: JoeBlo on November 12, 2010, 12:09:10 AM: 13 year old talking about Hangovers ? :P

I dont see the need for that dive placement at least... its kinda going to kill your turning circle...

also do you know about attachment points ? you always place Mag's asymmetrically...
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 12, 2010, 03:43:05 AM: No progress at all.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on November 12, 2010, 07:53:11 AM: would you mind when I fix the weaponslot there when you sended it to me?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on November 12, 2010, 01:15:33 PM: Quote from: Naryar on July 05, 2010, 04:46:33 PM
Go and have a look at other people's showcases.
Best way to learn GRW.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on November 14, 2010, 05:55:21 AM: you do know that HOJD is a heavyweight?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: SteveM4 on November 14, 2010, 06:03:05 AM: Quote from: Naryar on November 12, 2010, 03:43:05 AM
No progress at all.

QFT
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on December 09, 2010, 11:10:24 PM: I will post some rebuilds of

Canadian Warrior
Space Catapult
Extreme Exterminator

Also the insides of 1002 Problems and a new robot tomorrow.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 15, 2011, 04:20:36 PM: New bot the Blood Moon, I went to try making it IRL realistic

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6853screenshot_5.JPG)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4572screenshot_6.JPG)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Stagfish on January 15, 2011, 04:21:45 PM: Is that a judge motor?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 15, 2011, 04:22:31 PM: Quote from: Stagfish on January 15, 2011, 04:21:45 PM
Is that a judge motor?
No it is a mag snapper.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Stagfish on January 15, 2011, 04:23:56 PM: How the heck can it flip anything?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 15, 2011, 04:25:27 PM: Quote from: Stagfish on January 15, 2011, 04:23:56 PM
How the heck can it flip anything?
It can tilt stuff almost sideways, I have been thinking of adding a judge burst to it.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Stagfish on January 15, 2011, 04:27:02 PM: Dont, otherwise it will be a cheatbot.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on January 15, 2011, 04:53:05 PM: The disk on the back really ruins it IMO.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 15, 2011, 04:53:39 PM: Quote from: Scorpion on January 15, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
The disk on the back really ruins it IMO.
The disk is on the front and is the main weapon.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: martymidget on January 15, 2011, 04:58:39 PM: Needs more drive. A lot more.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on January 15, 2011, 05:00:41 PM: Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on January 15, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on January 15, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
The disk on the back really ruins it IMO.
The disk is on the front and is the main weapon.
You see, I think the flipper, although completely ineffective, looks better.
The disk just looks generic really.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on January 16, 2011, 11:00:19 AM: A huge step for me in bot building was to try to shrink the chassis. You should try to do that for some improvement.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on January 16, 2011, 11:16:39 AM: Alright...

-Bad drive setup, stick with NPC Fasts on heavyweights
-The pointy tip isn't doing ANYTHING
-The spinner motor is probably too weak
-Too much batteries
-uuuunnnndddeeeerrrrwwweeeeiiiiiiggghhhttt
-The flipper is messy, notably in extender work, plus a mag snapper isn't powerful enough to lift that
-HS/flipper hybrids = quite clearly not the best
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on January 16, 2011, 11:17:25 AM: I kinda like how it looks, but it neds to be much better to even have a chance against other bots.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 03, 2011, 03:26:27 PM: Bump. One new bot to show
Hazardous Material
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96368screenshot_10.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4006screenshot_11.jpg)
The Chaos 2 stuff is just a decoration on the bot.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: freeziez on April 03, 2011, 05:11:41 PM: Do you...like...not learn anything?

- You don't post updates to any bots and just keep throwing out new ones
- Astros? On a HW? REALLY?
- SS kinda suck now unless you got flails
- Armour?
- Use better weapons
- Remove the C2 crap, get a top stabilizer
- Paintjob.
- I think underpowered...?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on April 03, 2011, 05:15:03 PM: *nods at everything above except paintjob*
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: freeziez on April 03, 2011, 05:20:32 PM: Quote from: freeziez on April 03, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
Do you...like...not learn anything?

- You don't post updates to any bots and just keep throwing out new ones
- Astros? On a HW? REALLY?
- SS kinda suck now unless you got flails
- Armour?
- Use better weapons
- Remove the C2 crap, get a top stabilizer
- Better Paintjob.
- I think underpowered...?

Excuse me.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Somebody on April 03, 2011, 05:21:39 PM: Also needs weapons that don't have normals.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 04, 2011, 01:48:19 AM: Non-flail SS's aren't bad.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 04, 2011, 09:04:04 AM: Quote from: freeziez on April 03, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
Do you...like...not learn anything?

- You don't post updates to any bots and just keep throwing out new ones Most bots were removed with a version of the game that had no longer worked and were removed
- Astros? On a HW? REALLY? Could not fit NPCs
- SS kinda suck now unless you got flails It can have no flails
- Armour? Titanium 10
- Use better weapons What is wrong with SirK claws
- Remove the C2 crap, get a top stabilizer I said it was just a decoration, the bot is very stable
- Paintjob.Did not really need one, but might add one.
- I think underpowered...? Nope. It is not underpowered.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2011, 09:06:49 AM: AAAAAARGH THE WEAPON CHOICE IS SO AWFUL.

Anyways... Astroflights are quite clearly not enough.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on April 04, 2011, 10:43:28 AM: Very poor, lurk in the showcase section more.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on April 04, 2011, 11:21:08 AM: lol

Quote from: Scorpion on April 04, 2011, 10:43:28 AM
Very poor, lurk in the showcase section more.
^this^
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 04, 2011, 01:02:53 PM: bot looks fine if you don't intend to be competitive.

Otherwise you will need to change "everything". It's like the whole bot is compose of bad decisions. I don't think you can even choose worst parts deliberately.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on April 04, 2011, 01:11:52 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on April 04, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
bot looks fine if you don't intend to be competitive.

Otherwise you will need to change "everything". It's like the whole bot is compose of bad decisions. I don't think you can even choose worst parts deliberately.
XD
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on April 08, 2011, 05:30:54 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on April 04, 2011, 01:02:53 PM
Otherwise you will need to change "everything". It's like the whole bot is compose of bad decisions. I don't think you can even choose worst parts deliberately.

FINISH HIM

Nah, there are worst parts that he can choose. Imagine a shell spinner with vertically angled clep tails or stacked ant sawblades.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: 090901 on April 08, 2011, 05:39:22 PM: kinda sad it has taken him about a year to get to this point
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 06:46:30 PM: Most of the time I just try to make sure this thread dies. Because I am more into making bots with custom parts, reps or Bots that I randomly create with designs I think of.

But here is a recreated version of one of the only bots I can recreate

Why do I bother even posting bots. But there must be a reason I do.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28762screenshot_12.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19745screenshot_13.jpg)
Armour Titanium 3 changed from Aluminum 3.

Plus a crawler I made a while ago

Fluttershy's Stare
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80934Stare.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63518screenshot_14.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80733screenshot_15.jpg)
Titanium 5
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on April 08, 2011, 08:39:52 PM: Last time GRW: Lurk!
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 09:05:47 PM: Quote from: MassimoV on April 08, 2011, 08:39:52 PM
Last time GRW: Lurk!
I was looking back at the building tip and advice of others.

It seems lie everytime I bump this thread and post a new bot my rep goes down by 1. I have already explained the reason I don't build very effective machines anyway, I just build bots for fun and realism and for youtube tournaments I am soon going to start.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on April 08, 2011, 09:17:10 PM: Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 09:05:47 PM
I have already explained the reason I don't build very effective machines anyway, I just build bots for fun and realism and for youtube tournaments I am soon going to start.

Then, out of curiosity, why do you showcase the bots?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 09:20:02 PM: Quote from: Urjak on April 08, 2011, 09:17:10 PM

Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 09:05:47 PM
I have already explained the reason I don't build very effective machines anyway, I just build bots for fun and realism and for youtube tournaments I am soon going to start.

Then, out of curiosity, why do you showcase the bots?
I showcase bots only for the help of armour, weaponry to use and motors etc.

I do post bots that are supposed to be took serious for tournaments but not every single one

HoJD, Candian Warrior (After it failed in TTT), Booster Launcher 300, Blood Moon, Space Catapult and Hazardous Material were not meant to be took seriously for tournaments.

On the other hand 1001 Problems, Extreme Xterminator, Power Bomber, Fluttershy's Stare and a few other bots not showcased were made for tournaments.

On the other hand my stock showcase was made for building tournament steady robots.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: SKBT on April 08, 2011, 10:06:14 PM: Dude you can have a realistic robot that still looks cool and is effective. Take a look at other showcases and get some ideas from them. Also just play around and fight robots that are in the same weightclass as yours and fight them in an arena without a pit or low walls. Challenge your self to fight the hardest bots. This will force you to redesign or die. Then you will get better as time goes on and once you get better it opens up a whole new world of possibility and fun with RA2.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: ty4er on April 09, 2011, 01:00:13 AM: so... much... emptyspace...
Oh and that drive isnt enough on the MW and you could use a better end weapon.
Also you went overboard on batteries a bit, get rid of one on the MW i cba to see how many the hw has :P
The axe's need more power, You can do better on a HW and you can shrink the chassis' A LOT.
Oh and most of those weapons have normals, which are bad most of the time.
You can also get better wheels.
It's sorta pointless if i carry on so just lurk and look at other peoples' showcases.
Quote from: Urjak on April 08, 2011, 09:17:10 PM

Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 08, 2011, 09:05:47 PM
I have already explained the reason I don't build very effective machines anyway, I just build bots for fun and realism and for youtube tournaments I am soon going to start.

Then, out of curiosity, why do you showcase the bots?
this^^
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on April 09, 2011, 02:17:24 AM: Your excuses are rubbish and don't hold up.
Yes, there are builders who build cool looking, realistic, but not very competitive bots.
But you are NOT one of these builders.
Both of these bots are supposed to be competitive, but both are very bad.
The HW has far too much empty space, too much drive, too much power, too little weaponry, nonsensical setup for the weaponry aswell, too many batteries, anoutdated skirt hinge wedge and a rubbish paintjob.
The MW is not as bad, but still has too much empty space, poor weaponry, overall poor design for the weaponry, too little drive, one too many ants and is just going to be eaten alive by gut rippers.
Improve these aspects of your bots, you should know how by now really, and if you don't, you still desperately need to lurk, and more importantly, LEARN more.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on April 09, 2011, 03:53:44 AM: Almost one year here, longer than me, and still minimal progress
Judging by progress, I would just about say that you are the worst builder here :/

What scorp said pretty much summed it up

Here's a little bit of advice:
I first found these forums around November 2009, and I was a rather terrible builder
I lurked in showcases, mostly those of Ounce, Nary, Reier, and started to copy their designs
I then advanced with the designs I made, and made my own progressions, to the stage of the first bot in my DSL showcase
Then I registered in May 2010, thats 6-7 months of lurking

See how much LURKING helps, its the best method of progression
Just try cloning some designs, you won't get flamed for it. Every MW popup is practically a clone these days :P
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 09, 2011, 11:56:54 PM: Geez people, I mean yeah GRW's building has not improved much over the time he's been here, but... you think you're rubbing it in enough?

Just say how to improve the bots, no need to go right out and say "you suck, go lurk". Say something positive too if he's doing something right.

Fluttershy's Stare looks basically good as a concept but it NEEDS more powerful drive. That's the main thing to do. After that you can focus on optimizing chassis space and batteries and using better weapons (battle axe is not the best choice).

Power Bomber... ermm... honestly needs a total rebuild to be good, but for now just take things one step at a time. See if you can get a heavy plow or two as front armor. That alone will make it 10x as effective.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: 090901 on April 10, 2011, 12:24:44 AM: Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 10, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
I don't listen to losers who think I suck I just lower their rep.

You know that if you listen to them then they won't say you suck...
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on April 10, 2011, 12:27:46 AM: Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 10, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
I don't listen to losers who think I suck I just lower their rep.

Well there is little doubt that you aren't a good bot builder. I wouldn't call people losers just because they tell you that. I say just try to implement some of their advice and your building will improve dramatically.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on April 10, 2011, 04:14:14 AM: Quote from: Urjak on April 10, 2011, 12:27:46 AM
Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on April 10, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
I don't listen to losers who think I suck I just lower their rep.

Well there is little doubt that you aren't a good bot builder. I wouldn't call people losers just because they tell you that. I say just try to implement some of their advice and your building will improve dramatically.
QFT
The fact is, there's a lot of advice already posted in here, when so little progress is made, it seems like you are just ignoring everyone who's posted advice here, and took the time to try and help you, so I think it's perfectly understandable that people (including myself) would be slightly annoyed by now.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on April 10, 2011, 11:00:37 AM: The reason I posted that is because I was tired and angry. So I am sorry to you guys.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on April 18, 2011, 02:43:17 PM: Nice bots
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on April 18, 2011, 03:09:40 PM: Quote from: GarvinTheGreat on April 18, 2011, 02:43:17 PM
Nice bots
I bet that's Sarcasm.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on June 29, 2011, 07:37:49 PM: Alright the new bots
Document Shredder
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29760DocShred.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5609DocShredinside.jpg)
Note I forgot what armour I used on it :ermm:
Edit: It is Steel 3 or 5

Nightmare Moon
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/46186Nightmoon.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4220Nightmooninsides.jpg)
This will be my Robotic International Wars Season 1 bot
and it uses Plastic I think either 3 or 5

I now these are not Nar AI efficient bots but they are some of my best.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on June 29, 2011, 08:28:08 PM: Lets see:

For the drum you are going to want to shrink that chassis drastically, and change your orange bats to maybe 6-7 ants. Honestly, I think the drum would be better with two NPC Fasts and Technos, but regardless of the number of drive motors you have, ditch thepussycat wheels and get grippier wheels like vlads, tornadoes, or technos. With the extra weight you have, add on some extra weapons (16 razors really isn't quite enough), and get some metal hinge wedges (they are far superior to skirt hinge wedges).

On the VS, downgrade your weapon motor to a Perm 80 or maybe a TWRM, and give yourself some more weapons (you would probably want to ditch the sawblade and make it a standard disk VS). Grippier wheels would also be useful (maybe rubbers or vlads), but you can keep the astroflights, seeing as VSs don't have to be all that fast. Like I said for the drum, get a metal hinge wedge as well (or ditch the wedge and add static stabilizers along the sides to avoid the wedge war all together).
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 29, 2011, 08:45:17 PM: MOAR RAZORZ!!!!
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 29, 2011, 08:49:40 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on June 29, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
MOAR RAZORZ!!!!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42450razer.jpg)
:trollface
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on June 29, 2011, 09:01:34 PM: *facepalm*
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on June 29, 2011, 09:27:45 PM: Please don't spam my showcase (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38866smiley_emoticons_bypass.gif)

A little update to Nightmare Moon
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/21483Nightmoonupdate.jpg)

As for Document Shredder, I won't bother updating it because it doesn't want to cooperate so I will try making a new bot much like it with some fixes from its current version.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on June 29, 2011, 09:30:14 PM: Better. In my opinion you can make the chassis thinner and shorter, and use angled skirts instead of those poly extenders as supports.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: COOLRUNNER87 on June 29, 2011, 09:46:14 PM: As for the weapon mount, you could possibly get away with using a combination multi-extender, metal extender, and mount it from there. You may be able to get a better angle and be able to save a little weight in the process.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on June 29, 2011, 09:49:28 PM: Quote from: COOLRUNNER87 on June 29, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
As for the weapon mount, you could possibly get away with using a combination multi-extender, metal extender, and mount it from there. You may be able to get a better angle and be able to save a little weight in the process.
Might do that later but not right now.

Just out of curiosity would you guys like me to post my BattleBots entry 20% Cooler in 10 Seconds Flat? ~~So you can make bad copies of it~~
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: ty4er on June 30, 2011, 02:14:39 AM: For some reason i like the look of those drums.
But the insides are horrible and it would need way more weapons.
And better wheels.

In fact do you ever learn anything?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on July 25, 2011, 10:20:10 PM: A little IRL type bot, Fail or Flail, it is a working Tourque Reaction bot based off Stinger, and a possible entry to a LW IRL DSL tournament if one comes up
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37185screenshots.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25565screenshots_1.jpg)

Uses Steel 5
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 24, 2012, 10:19:23 PM: DP. You probably know what this is for
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34459robot arena 2-20120124-1949108.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23309robot arena 2-20120124-2116085.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48166robot arena 2-20120124-1940457.jpg)
My video cam had problems when I took the photo
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on January 24, 2012, 10:34:22 PM: I like the look of Fail or Flail. Not terribly effective, but cool.

Berry Punch just looks unstable. That skirt hinge wedge will do almost nothing to stabilize it and the fast drive will make it prone to tipping. You should use lighter wheels and wide static stabilizers.

Edit: Wait that's a HW??? ...I'm sure you can do the same design on a MW.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 24, 2012, 10:40:58 PM: Quote from: Clickbeetle on January 24, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Berry Punch just looks unstable. That skirt hinge wedge will do almost nothing to stabilize it and the fast drive will make it prone to tipping. You should use lighter wheels and wide static stabilizers.
Well that would be kinda the point because Berry Punch is described by the fans to be a drunk :P

But all jokes aside. It does not go unstable much, it only really bounces a tiny bit when a match starts and can flip is it takes a turn too sharp but other that it does not unstable much, I will do some fixing to it soon, I am currently busy with some more bots ATM, so I will fix after. And it is not using the fast NPCs, it is using the normal ones.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: COOLRUNNER87 on January 24, 2012, 10:59:06 PM: For Fail or Flail, have you ever thought about lowering the armor and adding on a Spiked Club instead of that Mace?
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Reier on January 25, 2012, 11:35:46 AM: FoF's beyond hope CR87
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on January 25, 2012, 12:39:48 PM: Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on January 24, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
DP. You probably know what this is for
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34459robot arena 2-20120124-1949108.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23309robot arena 2-20120124-2116085.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48166robot arena 2-20120124-1940457.jpg)
My video cam had problems when I took the photo
don't use tall black batts
ever*

also static stabilizers may be better at stabilizing it

*unless using beta bursts
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: ty4er on January 25, 2012, 01:23:13 PM: Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on January 25, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: GroudonRobotWars on January 24, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
DP. You probably know what this is for
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34459robot arena 2-20120124-1949108.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/23309robot arena 2-20120124-2116085.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48166robot arena 2-20120124-1940457.jpg)
My video cam had problems when I took the photo
don't use tall black batts
ever

also static stabilizers may be better at stabilizing it
liyar, the batteries can be useful for beta bursts but otherwise are kinda useless.
also swap the wheels for techno wheels or vlads or something that isnt really bad
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on January 25, 2012, 04:38:54 PM: Use technos not S3 wheels. only 3 ants necesary. Oh, and shrink the chassis.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on January 25, 2012, 05:38:04 PM: Did a bit of changes to it.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75930robot arena 2-20120125-1636096.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15100robot arena 2-20120125-1636182.jpg)

I did not use techno's because it causes the bot to tip more to the back, and it also rose the speed on the bot.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on January 25, 2012, 09:26:11 PM: Steel 10? If you use stabilizers like that, you need them to be wider (further away from eachother) and they don't need wedges. Also, try putting most of the motors outside of the chassis by rotating them 180 degrees.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Reier on January 26, 2012, 12:17:17 AM: Don't bother putting wedges if they're on baseplate anchors... actually, don't even use anchors. MEs are better in every way.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Thyrus on January 27, 2012, 12:28:58 PM: I`d like to see a video of Fail or Flail using its weapon. like it
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on March 04, 2012, 10:44:28 PM: Time for a new bot
Sonic Rainuke
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79205robot arena 2-20120304-2143593.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97276robot arena 2-20120304-2144078.jpg)
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on March 04, 2012, 11:14:48 PM: Pull off the razors pointing inward towards the chassis and other disks, and use the extra weight for a massive increase in drive (maybe 3-4 NPC Fasts with Technos). Use the remaining weight for more weapons facing outward.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on March 04, 2012, 11:46:04 PM: I could not get another drive motor in but fixed the razors and added technos
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89270robot arena 2-20120304-2244276.jpg)
but...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85124robot arena 2-20120304-2220197.jpg)

Edit: I fixed it, just need to put the skin back on
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on March 04, 2012, 11:47:26 PM: Center your chassis and rebuild the whole thing. It's the simplest solution.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on March 05, 2012, 12:15:49 AM: Here is the fix
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72255robot arena 2-20120304-2325177.jpg)
No inside shots, because not much has changed except for a few more ants
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Urjak on March 05, 2012, 12:17:47 AM: You need more more drive...
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 05, 2012, 05:01:26 AM: Questioning the worth of the inner razors, the discs are probably going to get ripped off first.
Title: Re: GroudonRobotWars Showcase
Post by: MassimoV on March 05, 2012, 07:11:43 PM: You have leftover weight still.