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Robot Arena => Showcases => DSL TC Showcases => Topic started by: Ice the frosty cat on October 31, 2008, 03:48:56 AM

Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on October 31, 2008, 03:48:56 AM: Finally made a showcase; my robots aren't all that great which has put me off making one, but I might as well.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/link3908/Frazzle2.png)
This is Frazzle 2, a remake of one of my first spinners.
Pros: It can still spin upsidedown
Cons: Its weapon breaks to easily and doesn't cause enough damage
Anyone know what I should replace them with?
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: H@zm47 on October 31, 2008, 06:11:09 AM: You've got weight left over and there are some way better weapons that you could have used (hammers are best).
What are the front wheels for?
If you don't need them, remove them. That will allow you to reduce the chassis size and add better batts (orange). That will give you even more weight to utilise.

EDIT: You should swap the generic tribar for a whyachi one. It's stronger
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: man manu on October 31, 2008, 06:18:08 AM: i swear the drive you're using is a weapon motor? put in some smaller drives then take off the front two wheels. After that you should be able to put in orange batts (as h@zm47 said) for the weapons see if you can put one of the dsl hamers on. heavier the better
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on October 31, 2008, 06:57:29 AM: Yeah, those are weapon motors. I was trying to make a spinner with decent mobility (most of my HS' are quite sluggish)
The extra wheels are for balance sake, but I guess I don't really need them.
Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a good workover after lunch
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 31, 2008, 07:43:53 AM: Use drive E-teks.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on October 31, 2008, 08:05:10 AM: Ok, I was having problems getting the weight up, so I downgraded the armour and removed a battery or two made it into my first decent Middleweight.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/link3908/Frazzle3.png)
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: man manu on October 31, 2008, 11:03:18 AM: piglets dont work for drive
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Urjak on October 31, 2008, 11:06:57 AM: Very true, and the chassis could be MUCH MUCH smaller.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: 70 CUDA on October 31, 2008, 02:19:44 PM: i know you have probly heard this 1000000 times but Urjak is right try to make the chassis to fit your bots internals not fit your internals in your chassis. this gives you better wight management ergo you have more wight for your wep and drive systems. i myself go thrugh about 6 to 10 vers for each bot before i post it. its not that i have to, i just fix all the problems i can each, unfortunatly i always make new problems each ver. lol. the reason i do this is so when i post it i will get more in depth fixes. the more you do this the better you will get.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on November 01, 2008, 06:23:45 AM: I hate it when you fix a problem like not enough weapons or you shrink the chassis and the bot becomes a black hole of suckiness forever.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on November 04, 2008, 01:30:15 PM: Here's Cyber-swish
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/link3908/Cyberswish.png)
Generic design, but meh =/

Strengths: Speedy for a VS and can Oota robots occasionally
Weaknesses: Balance bars break easily
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: somestrangeguy on November 04, 2008, 01:32:48 PM: Otherwise good, but the other disc goes trough the weapon motor.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Reier on November 04, 2008, 01:33:54 PM: Maybe a wee bit over-powered...
Cool paintjob.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 04, 2008, 01:56:33 PM: Way better than your previous bots; although there are many things you can do to gain weight-removing all these ant batts, a better chassis, better extender work rather than these angled connectors.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: 70 CUDA on November 04, 2008, 01:56:53 PM: use a muti-extender instead of the base anchor and then attc. steel extender off the side ap. this will make you front bars stornger.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on November 04, 2008, 02:13:31 PM: Thanks for the criticism guys ^_^
I've got another robot to showcase as well
Dolphin 4
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/link3908/Dolphin4.png)
The idea for this came about when I noticed how often robots went straight over robots, giving them a perfect chance to attack from the rear. Dolphin 4 combats this problem with two Vlad spikes which drill into robots while stopping them from flying over, with the large discs grinding away as well. The spikes also act as a srimech, by ramming spike-first into the wall, but in arenas where it's possible to be Oota'd, it can often throw itself out in the process
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 04, 2008, 02:16:34 PM: The name really fits the bot, eh ??
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on November 04, 2008, 02:19:55 PM: Quote from: Naryar;20115
The name really fits the bot, eh ??

Ehehehe
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: philetbabe on November 04, 2008, 03:06:56 PM: again, realistic rules does not apply, anyway, there's a good idea behind this bot.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on November 04, 2008, 04:44:46 PM: Cyber-Swish weapons=FAIL. Get more durable weapons.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on November 04, 2008, 08:07:01 PM: On Cyber-Swish, use Techno Destructo wheels instead. I really like the idea of Dolphin 4, but I'm not sure about the hypno teeth and its wedges. I'd consider upgrading the teeth to something else.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Sage on November 04, 2008, 08:24:12 PM: hypno teeth pwn.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Condor33 on November 05, 2008, 06:30:19 AM: Quote from: Sage;20182
hypno teeth pwn.

QFT. Their only problem is that they can't throw other robots around.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on November 05, 2008, 04:26:40 PM: Although it is a good thing for a grinder like this.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on December 22, 2008, 01:24:08 PM: As I'm too lazy to showcase any more robots, I decided to make a video instead, to do it all for me :D
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CJOP6_XIT4U
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 22, 2008, 01:41:16 PM: Most of them are poorly built.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: man manu on December 22, 2008, 01:41:51 PM: i like the VS cyberspin or something like that. Also good flippers!
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on December 22, 2008, 01:45:14 PM: Quote from: Naryar;25178
Most of them are poorly built.

Read the description ;P
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on December 22, 2008, 03:30:00 PM: I like Draculerse's skin.

Btw, TWM3R2s are bad for drive.

How many flippers are on HACE (havnt a clue either)
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on December 22, 2008, 03:47:36 PM: Quote from: Somebody;25185
I like Draculerse's skin.

Btw, TWM3R2s are bad for drive.

How many flippers are on HACE (havnt a clue either)

Six.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on February 23, 2009, 12:30:46 PM: I'm sure we can all agree that Skurge needs much improvement. Well, I agree, so I completely rebuilt 'em.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/link3908/Skurge2.png)
I didn't quite use up all the space or weight, but eh, it's a work in progress, and empty space can be excused in a wedge, I'm sure xD
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on February 23, 2009, 12:43:23 PM: Fill up the weight with better armor or something like that

Use better tires

What are the arms, I can't see them.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on February 23, 2009, 12:45:40 PM: Whoops, used the wrong screenshot for the internals >.<
But meh, it's pretty much the same as the original's, except with Iron spikes instead of Spike Strips
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: philetbabe on February 23, 2009, 12:58:29 PM: it's better, but i 'm not sure you should go far in a tourney with that bot yet.

first, like Naryar likes to tell it, avoid black battery.

Second, smasher (horizontal burst motor) are very hard to build as deadly bot : compare to whipper (those which turns on themselve) they give hardest beat but so less often that they can't expect much victory.

Third, if you look at bots like 'enfilad' (bbean) or deprivator (raw), you will see that they have much more weapons attached to there burst motor, each strike is thus more deadly.

So, how to do a good smasher ? well i don't know !

why not suggesting to ACAM a "BOT of the month "on this subject : heavy horizontal smasher : maybe we will see good innovation ?

what you should do to improve your bot is to raise weapon on its top (see
Psycho sweepr of Urjak in BBEan 4), once you will be under a bot, -> it will be hurt by these vertical weapons and it should not escape while you cut its wheels with your lateral strikes : this is the idea of infernal contraption which forbiden any escape once it holds a bot.

anyway, i like you paint job.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Reier on February 23, 2009, 01:11:42 PM: Techno Destructo wheels would be better, I think.
Lower ground clearence & better grip.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Somebody on February 23, 2009, 01:38:34 PM: I would go with some weapon motor guards, and also, it would have to be a DSL BOTM, because either Frag Beetle or Vise would win a stock one.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Naryar on February 23, 2009, 02:08:51 PM: -Paintjob is cool
-Better management of space = :D
-N-20's suck. Indeed, Techno Destructo's. (it'll be really fast though)
-WP836E's suck. Plus, the bot is underpowered (do not underpower bots with active burst motors) and looks like it has low battery power. I'd go with 4 battlepacks and 4 ants.
-The 41kg of rear armor would be more useful as better chassis armor IMO (titanium is the best, then plastic)
-You can put a double metal hinge wedge on that, or maybe even a single snapper wedge.
Title: Eh, my showcase
Post by: Ice the frosty cat on February 23, 2009, 03:28:47 PM: Quote from: Naryar;29586
-The 41kg of rear armor would be more useful as better chassis armor IMO (titanium is the best, then plastic)

Mmm, but the back was a bit weak spot on the previous version though. I'll see what I can do though =)