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Title: Efficient DSL2.1 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Naryar on January 17, 2011, 07:25:59 AM
These are a few headlines about efficient and combat-effective DSL 2.1 building, though this is by no means an ultimate building guide. It is simply guidelines for making a bot well built.


..TBC
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2012, 10:52:02 AM
Opening thread to get constructive criticism on this from the community. Read original post first and please post here if you have something constructive to say. I shall hear it and change the text if I do agree with it.

Needless to say, spam or bad advice will earn you a smite.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: NFX on January 08, 2012, 11:17:38 AM
Do you not mean Lightning Spikes instead of Tornado Teeth?
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: MassimoV on January 08, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
Aren't the DSL hammers alright weaponry?
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2012, 12:31:32 PM
Do you not mean Lightning Spikes instead of Tornado Teeth?

Uh, yes. Thank you for correcting me. Though maybe tornado teeth are good as well ?

Aren't the DSL hammers alright weaponry?

Yes they are. Note that I haven't finished.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: ty4er on January 08, 2012, 12:51:09 PM
dont forget about flails and weapon motors for crawlers  :p

Tornado teeth are great for counterweights from what i've found. And talk about wedges and if you put anything on a wedge (armour for example) it hampers the wedge's effectiveness. thank you Click for another great fact about ra2 :P
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: martymidget on January 08, 2012, 01:07:59 PM
Make sure you mention that saws, vlad spikes and sais are the only good weapons with normals :P
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2012, 01:16:32 PM
Sais don't have normals.

AAAAH BAD ADVICE MARTYYYY

But I will mention all of them.

Also ty you think i'm going to even bother MENTIONING crawlers in this thing ? But yeah, I will talk about wedges. We need moar experiences.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Thyrus on January 08, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
you should mention that this is not for (Super Awesome) IRL building
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
you should mention that this is not for (Super Awesome) IRL building

Already did. Go and re-read the very first line of my wall of text.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Thyrus on January 08, 2012, 02:13:32 PM
no
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2012, 02:56:16 PM
If you have nothing constructive to post, don't post anything.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: smashysmashy on January 08, 2012, 03:38:21 PM
Wheels would be good to mention.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on February 22, 2012, 02:14:09 AM
Added a paragraph on drive motors. Next to come is wheels.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Mr. AS on February 24, 2012, 08:16:13 PM
why is weaponry in the extender work spoiler
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on February 27, 2012, 10:15:40 AM
Because I failed. Thanks for noticing.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Sage on March 08, 2012, 03:44:55 PM
needs moar videos
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Gropaga on March 08, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
"especially high-concussion weapons lie sledgehammers"
 
You meant "Like" By "Lie"?
(talking about razor despriction)
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: ty4er on April 04, 2012, 01:25:29 PM
yea; dont use them ever
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Mr. AS on April 04, 2012, 01:25:48 PM
Shouldn't there be something about the Powered Steering Unit in drive motors? That's in DSL as well as stock.
TIP: they suck
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on April 04, 2012, 01:31:08 PM
Shouldn't there be something about the Powered Steering Unit in drive motors? That's in DSL as well as stock.

Since when is the Car Steering in DSL?
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
Shouldn't there be something about the Powered Steering Unit in drive motors? That's in DSL as well as stock.

Since when is the Car Steering in DSL?

It's always been, and it sucks.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on August 16, 2012, 11:05:02 AM
Improved the weapons part. I'm gonna work on this more regularly.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Gauche Suede on August 17, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
Improved the weapons part. I'm gonna work on this more regularly.
can you do the drive part next? you know, what wheels are good, decent, and bad.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Kossokei on August 17, 2012, 02:55:38 AM
I'm gonna guess that you aren't done with weapons yet, but just saying; Missing Gothic Axe, Battle Axe, Samurai Sword, Canine Saw, assorted teeth, and mentions of flippers, wedges (both of which are technically weapons) and although it's not a weapon, some sort of mention for ballasts.

I know, not done yet, but again, just sayin'
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: ty4er on August 17, 2012, 03:51:38 AM
i think you missed spike strips aswell.

and what about using weapons for non-weapon purposes?
and of course dsl bars
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on August 19, 2012, 05:40:11 AM
Improved weapons part, rewrote part of the drive part. No wheels... yet.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: 123savethewhales on August 20, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
I don't know Nary.  You got some weird choice for weapon I must say.

I mean, putting anything in the same class as razors, ds light, and beater bars are just misleading.  To say the other "good" stuff are above iron spikes makes no sense.  And DS heavy/hypno teeth....  why would you use any of that?  DS Heavy is exceptionally bad with terrible damage output due to weird shape, and 300hp less than listed.

And razor spam owns hammer BAD in weapon to weapon wars due to damage over-float and component taking 1 additional hit to "fracture" at 0 health (all components has a default fracture of 50)......  Also the game mechanic highly favors piercing because concussion is largely ignored vs a spinner/flail.  And even if you pit a razor/bar pusher vs a hammer pusher razor bar still wins.  I mean cash cow with it's 180kg weapons can take out 4 70kg hammers (280kg) with weapons left.  That's why good de-weapon pushers (The Ounce?) are made out of razor/bar, ds light/bar, even iron/bar, but not hammers.

Hammer has their use because that requires less attachment points and therefore means significantly more weapon weight in some limited settings, like those lightweights with 2x 70kg hammers.   Lightweight favors hammers because those 3kgs for attachment point actually matters, and damage is low enough that over-float isn't as significant.  But they can still lose the weapon war to a bot with less weapon weight.  Beyond lightweight the damage over-float just makes high HP weapons obsolete.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on September 06, 2012, 01:43:46 PM
I added the whole wheel list, with stats and comments, in the drive section.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Gauche Suede on September 07, 2012, 08:12:43 AM
I added the whole wheel list, with stats and comments, in the drive section.
Thanks! but do you have any comments for thepussycat wheel?
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on September 07, 2012, 09:15:55 AM
It's not worth Any.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on September 10, 2012, 01:19:36 PM
nah just kidding

Also I added a bunch of weapons with stats. I will add all the useful stats of all the non-cheatbot2 components.
Title: Re: Various DSL Tips
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2012, 11:19:45 AM
Weapon list has been updated. Next update will finish the weapon list... cause it's big and long.
Title: Re: Efficient DSL Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 20, 2012, 06:07:34 AM
please can you include the replica discs in the weapons list?
Title: Re: Efficient DSL Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: BradmanX on January 30, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
Thanks for this great tutorial, this is very helpful.
Title: Re: Efficient DSL Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Avalanche on April 04, 2013, 06:34:44 AM
Welcome to GTM!
Please showcase your bots and use these brilliant tips to enhance your bots!
Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: helloface on April 29, 2013, 10:45:07 PM
please can you include the replica discs in the weapons list?

I agree.
Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Davidyamy on October 30, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
which is better, metal hinge or hinge skirt?
Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: MassimoV on October 30, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
which is better, metal hinge or hinge skirt?
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=12081.0 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=12081.0)
Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Naryar on October 31, 2013, 10:39:22 AM
Both are valid choices, it depends of the situation. Generally metal hinges are better.
Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: RGBoy on July 19, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
Oh, man. Thank you for that guide. I've recently installed DSL 2.1 and i haven't know how to build something cool because I've known how to build using stock parts only.

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Title: Re: Efficient DSL2 Building Tutorial by Naryar
Post by: Jaydee99 on July 20, 2014, 04:46:30 PM
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