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Title: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 28, 2010, 09:03:16 AM
So, why not....
 
This was inspired by a video i saw.  Grog had been flipped upside down and was balanced on his top  extender, spinning like a top.  I thought it might be fun to build.  It wasn't.  took forever to achieve the balance, but i finally did it, and so i give you
 
DOOM DREIDEL
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/doomdreidel.png)
 
features: 
 
A TON of empty space and an overly large chassis.  Couldn't get it to work any other way.  but work, it does. 
No controlled drive.  Just hit the switch and sit back and watch. 
Underweightness.  Again, couldn't get it to work otherwise
An impressive loss record against Grog due to the fact that Grog doesn't get across the arena before Doom Dreidel gets counted out.
Some hilarious moments where Second Sentinel flips him into the air and he comes smashing point down on top of him.
and a complete inability to fight in any tabletop matches.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on March 28, 2010, 09:05:58 AM
wat
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Badnik96 on March 28, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
It's interesting, I'll give it that. Could you maybe release it in a RAR? I'm pretty interested in it.

And the video had Iron Spaghetti spinning like a top, not Grog.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 28, 2010, 09:12:13 AM
sure.
 
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Doom Dreidel.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Doom%20Dreidel.rar)
 
just hit space as soon as the match begins, that's all to it.
 
{And the video had Iron Spaghetti spinning like a top, not Grog.}
 
That's who it was...sorry, been awhile
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: SKBT on March 28, 2010, 09:26:19 AM
Someone has way to much free time. That is the strangest bot I have ever seen. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Reier on March 28, 2010, 09:28:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6fpExCSxI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6fpExCSxI)  :D

Interesting robot....hope you stick around, I'd like to see more from you.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 29, 2010, 03:34:08 AM
Someone has way to much free time. That is the strangest bot I have ever seen.

Free time, oh yeah.  insomnia can be a blessing.  I'll post some more 'traditional' bots some time in the future, but for now...long night at work and very little sleep yesterday = Insomnia loses this time...
 
and yup, reier, that was the very video i was speaking of. thanks :)
 
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Badnik96 on March 29, 2010, 08:17:02 AM
I have to say, it is pretty cool when you see it in action :D Beat most of the MMAI that I have made so far (and probably won't finish, seeing that Nicsan hasn't posted any heats since December)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on March 29, 2010, 09:03:57 AM
have you seen FB's then later my Gyratory robots ?

they were all spinning top robots with a lack of a top end speed and/ or crazy acceleration   ;)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Stagfish on March 29, 2010, 12:03:56 PM
i see a custom part
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: G.K. on March 29, 2010, 12:25:30 PM
Where?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Stagfish on March 29, 2010, 12:34:22 PM
looks in between where the hammers are attached to
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: G.K. on March 29, 2010, 12:36:13 PM
Ant baterry, pointy tip? Baseplate anchor?

Yoda, what's that thing under the Dual Perm?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Stagfish on March 29, 2010, 12:38:23 PM
look under the battery, how does that battery power the a dual perm!
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: G.K. on March 29, 2010, 12:39:18 PM
Under the battery I see a baseplate anchor. And one ant can power a dual perm.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Virus Bomb on March 29, 2010, 12:47:44 PM
The thing under the dual perm is probably a control board. i don't see any custom parts though.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 29, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
Directly under the dual perm is the ME it's attached to. it's got a blue control board, the 4 ME's attaching the hammers and in between those is a baseplate anchor with a pointy tip facing down.  Nothing custom in there.  In fact, the only custom parts i even have installed in the game are an anti ballast for SHW's and a soundboard that plays the 1812 overture for a 'replica' i did of a DRD from farscape.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 30, 2010, 05:45:48 AM
Next up:
 
Ka D'argo
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/dargo.png)
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/dargobat.png)
 
6 ants 8 razors on a piston powered hammer, metal hinge wedges.
 
Biggest problem: the piston gets knocked off too easily if it gets hit.
Best part: the piston firing helps the hammer to retract quicker.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on March 30, 2010, 06:02:30 AM
Use a Storm burst, they have 22 (!) times more hitpoints than VDMAs.

Also large Pumas are much better than the other ones.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 30, 2010, 06:23:13 AM
Use a Storm burst, they have 22 (!) times more hitpoints than VDMAs.



Well, that reallly sucks then, because i can't use storm bursts. everytime i do, the bot falls right through the floor.  Is it just my installation?
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on March 30, 2010, 06:38:21 AM
what weight is it ? your storm burst ?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on March 30, 2010, 06:41:20 AM
Or get NAR AI V2.2... i fixed the Pumas HP on there.


You will notice more than a slight increase in the bot's difficulty level though :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on March 30, 2010, 06:43:31 AM
storm burst weighing in at 30 kg.  i do have nar ai, but haven't built dargo here on it yet...and yeah *ahem* "slight" :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Thyrus on March 30, 2010, 06:56:43 AM
then may downgrade the snowplows to replace the piston.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Badnik96 on March 30, 2010, 03:43:22 PM
Wow.. You have been lurking, havent you? That is one sick bot.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 04, 2010, 12:32:02 AM
First bot is awesome beyond believe.  I so need to make one, with FLAILS!!!!!!!

Edit:  Just tried making one, even BFE down to the 4th decimal places.  To the point where it can stand on a strait skirt (the thinnest component in DSL I believe) on both the x and y axis without tipping over.  But once it start spinning it still mess up......
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 04, 2010, 05:16:22 AM
Thanks guys :D.  Good luck on the flails.  If i remember right, i tried a version with flails and couldn't get it to balance with spinning.  Another thing to think about, it only seemed to work if the dual perm was way up and the hammers were at the bottom.  I tried about 20 different setups before finally getting this one.  But, let's see it if you get it to work.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 04, 2010, 05:42:57 AM
While I haven't got a working version myself, I updated your bot a little bit (probably unnoticeable to the naked eyes).  I centered all your component and get the anchor point down to 6 digit accuracy.  Unfortunately this is the maximum digits that the game can handle.  It can balance without spin for 3 seconds before tipping over, and can spin for a bit longer than before.

https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3784Doom Dreidel.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3784Doom Dreidel.rar)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 04, 2010, 05:51:19 AM
yup, couldn't see a dang thing changed...but it definately seems to work a bit better now...also self rights a bit better now.  nice work
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 04, 2010, 06:38:42 AM
I was bored.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51366doomdreidel.PNG)

Yeah, it took out both heavy plows. I love this design. =D
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2010, 07:44:15 AM
Yeah, it took out both heavy plows.

WAT?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: System32 on April 04, 2010, 08:42:14 AM
DREDLE DREDLE DREDLE ITS WHAT I LIKE TO PLAY...
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: russian roulette on April 04, 2010, 08:59:14 AM
But yet again I play with it cause dredle F***ing gay
(http://images.buddytv.com/articles/South_Park/Images/eric_theodore_cartman_southpark.jpg)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: System32 on April 04, 2010, 09:00:33 AM
Jews, their stupid game,
Jews, that's why they're lame.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 04, 2010, 10:15:01 AM
I really like Ka Dargo.

Somebody should make a LW top-bot for BBEANS :P

keep up the good work Yoda.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 04, 2010, 04:32:09 PM

Somebody should make a LW top-bot for BBEANS :P


I'd try that, but I can't think of a way to give it controlled movement without going too far away from the idea of it.  It'd lose the appeal (for me) if i had to add wheels or some such.  Plus, i'm too lazy to go through another 20 designs just to get it to kinda work lol.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Somebody on April 04, 2010, 04:49:12 PM
All the Jew girls and all the Jew boys, playing with their dreidles and other jew toys...

No I didnt come up with that and I am not racist!

Bot looks great.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on April 05, 2010, 12:02:42 AM
thought you may be interested in this robot I made some time ago....

Battleshot

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/screenshot_99.png)

spins on Irons like your robots do on pointy tips  ;)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 05, 2010, 03:59:16 AM
Very nice, Joe.  took me a second to see that the 181065 was actually two different hits though. lol.  But after picking my jaw up off the desk, i still appreciate this bot. Any control over it or does it just spin away and pray?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 05, 2010, 06:08:35 AM
Time for a new bot.  Here we have Tom Servo
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/tomservo2.png)
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/Tomservo1.png)
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/tomservo3.png)
 
Invertible? Forget it.  REVERSIBLE.   Opponent get behind you and trap you against the wall? just push the other direction on the controller, the chassis spins and the wheels flip to the otherside, meaning you're facing the opponent again, attack like normal.    Wheels break off?  suddenly, he's a crawler. 
 
Sorry for the bad 'riffs' up there.  it's 6 in the morning, and i'm no Mike Nelson, or Joel Robinson.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 05, 2010, 06:13:25 AM
You so need to build a NAR AI team.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on April 05, 2010, 06:22:41 AM
Very nice, Joe.  took me a second to see that the 181065 was actually two different hits though. lol.  But after picking my jaw up off the desk, i still appreciate this bot. Any control over it or does it just spin away and pray?

no actual control

it spins up without a top end speed (DSL servo boosting 1) then let go of spin and the flails glitch causing it to spin limitless faster then a duel perm (DSL servo boosting 2)

while Servo Boosting 2, it bounces around the arena while spinning keeping it mobile

-----------------------------

your new robot is interesting.. I have seen the design used before for torque reaction weapons but never for reversing drive. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 05, 2010, 06:58:02 AM
Servo half-crawler ?

It looks very underpowered to me.

Edit: And you might use also TWM3s since they have more hitpoints than the drive TWM3Rs and if your drivetrain is wider, it will increase your turnspeed.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 05, 2010, 11:07:28 AM
This man is a geenyaz.

e____e
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 05, 2010, 01:56:12 PM
Servo half-crawler ?

It looks very underpowered to me.

Edit: And you might use also TWM3s since they have more hitpoints than the drive TWM3Rs and if your drivetrain is wider, it will increase your turnspeed.

2 ants aren't enough for 2 drive motors and 2 servos? I thought it would cover it. Regardless, haven't noticed any power issues with him.  And most of the time, i don't need to turn anyway, he just goes back and forth.  Anyway, more of an experiment than anything. 
 
Here's a video of the little guy in action...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsYZRF6KDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsYZRF6KDw)
 
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: cephalopod on April 05, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
Servo half-crawler ?

It looks very underpowered to me.

Edit: And you might use also TWM3s since they have more hitpoints than the drive TWM3Rs and if your drivetrain is wider, it will increase your turnspeed.

2 ants aren't enough for 2 drive motors and 2 servos? I thought it would cover it. Regardless, haven't noticed any power issues with him.

I would've thought it'd be enough too, Servos don't require batteries do they?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 05, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Well... i do only see 1 ant battery on it.



Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 05, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
guess it is a bit hard to see in that pic. But yeah, there's 2 crammed in there under the control board.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 05, 2010, 04:45:55 PM
just curious, have you tried replacing the beater bars with DS Light Teeth?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 06, 2010, 02:01:07 AM
just curious, have you tried replacing the beater bars with DS Light Teeth?

hadn't before, thought they'd be too brittle for this.  But, gave it a shot. here's what i came up with
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/newtomservo.png)
 
freed up some weight, so i changed the drive motors up, as well as took nar's advice and widened it abit.  upgraded his arms from irons to the hammerheads, and still have nearly 50 kg left over.  he's a bit faster now, loads of more damage and still just as fun.  cheers
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on April 06, 2010, 02:12:31 AM
do light teeth have normals ?

I cant recall, just remember sage having to change the direction of all mammoths 5,738,937 teeth 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 06, 2010, 02:21:25 AM
Hahaha. I think that was my fault. XD

Anyway, DS teeth don't have normals so don't worry. :D
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 06, 2010, 02:22:45 AM
do light teeth have normals ?

I cant recall, just remember sage having to change the direction of all mammoths 5,738,937 teeth
No they don't, but facing still matters.  Just like how facing matters with razor, where the flat side deals the most damage.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 06, 2010, 02:25:21 AM
So, i've got them facing where the flat side hits, that's good, right?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 06, 2010, 02:40:53 AM
The general rule is, the more surface area makes contact, the more damage.  Hit F12 in lab to see it's collision mesh.  In term of razor it's obvious, but with ds light the flat side is actually the other way (the width of ds light > the tip of ds light).  But you can probably leave it if you want (and backup your existing version if you want to change it), the difference is not that big.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 06, 2010, 03:58:43 AM
do light teeth have normals ?

God damn Joe don't be a noob... You made a whole MOD, more advanced than mine, and you are asking this ???

NO they do not have normals, and i've said that at least 3 times in the past.

The general rule is, the more surface area makes contact, the more damage.

Interesting....
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 06, 2010, 05:34:41 AM
The general rule is, the more surface area makes contact, the more damage.

Interesting....
I think I heard it from JoeBlo.  I have only tested this to be true with razor and ds light.  The flat side of 70 hammer also seem to deal more damage than the sharp side.  So maybe you can run some additional testing to see if it holds true for other weapons.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 06, 2010, 07:21:59 PM
do light teeth have normals ?

God damn Joe don't be a noob... You made a whole MOD, more advanced than mine, and you are asking this ???

NO they do not have normals, and i've said that at least 3 times in the past.

Aw c'mon Nary.  Your know that those of us who drink will forget things from time to time.  :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Sparkey98 on April 06, 2010, 07:23:14 PM
you made a mod?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 090901 on April 06, 2010, 07:50:51 PM
you made a mod?
JoeBlo made Backlash. Do lack a brain?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Sparkey98 on April 06, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
Oh my god I am the biggest retard on the planet. I read that soooomehow, as JD saying he made a mod lol
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 06, 2010, 09:07:34 PM
I can see how you might have mis-read that.  I was defending Joe.  Being from down under, he probably drinks Fosters. (and we all know that stuff will knock you down and take away a few memories quite easy.)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: JoeBlo on April 06, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
I can see how you might have mis-read that.  I was defending Joe.  Being from down under, he probably drinks Fosters. (and we all know that stuff will knock you down and take away a few memories quite easy.)

usually corona of a night :P

God damn Joe don't be a noob... You made a whole MOD, more advanced than mine, and you are asking this ???

NO they do not have normals, and i've said that at least 3 times in the past.

D: in my defense

1) most noobs dont know what normals are
2) backlash doesnt have Light DS teeth in it ... they are the only ones I was unsure of becasue ...

Hahaha. I think that was my fault. XD

pwn lead me astray and I didnt bother looking into that myself :P

and not forgetting to mention

The general rule is, the more surface area makes contact, the more damage.

Interesting....
I think I heard it from JoeBlo.

yes that did come from me :D

----------------

Case closed, I won, Kthanks :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: powerrave on April 07, 2010, 07:37:56 AM
1) most noobs dont know what normals are


i didn't know what normals were either. well... i did know about them but didn't know there was a name for it. would i then still be a noob? i don't think so.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 07, 2010, 09:21:12 AM
@Jack: Hey, I drink as well (and last week was rather intense as far as drinking goes) but i don't forget anything about RA2 :P

you made a mod?
JoeBlo made Backlash. Do lack a brain?

If he lacked a brain he wouldn't post such idiotic comments.

Oh, and "most noobs don't know what normals are" does not mean "if you do not know what normals are, you are a noob".
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 07, 2010, 07:53:02 PM
@Jack: Hey, I drink as well (and last week was rather intense as far as drinking goes) but i don't forget anything about RA2 :P

Then you are not drinking enough.  :gawe:
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: FOTEPX on April 07, 2010, 08:10:45 PM
@Jack: Hey, I drink as well (and last week was rather intense as far as drinking goes) but i don't forget anything about RA2 :P

Then you are not drinking enough.  :gawe:

I'll probably drink when i'm older, but right now, i'm stuck to my coca-cola like a magnet.

Shwing!
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: russian roulette on April 07, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
@Jack: Hey, I drink as well (and last week was rather intense as far as drinking goes) but i don't forget anything about RA2 :P

Then you are not drinking enough.  :gawe:
JD you are the first to take a topic and turn it into a topic about partying or beer. BTW AA is for QUITTERS!
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 08, 2010, 05:02:37 PM
JD you are the first to take a topic and turn it into a topic about partying or beer. BTW AA is for QUITTERS!

Haha. Actually, I didn't mean to. Seems that I contributed to a massive thread hijack huh?

Quick Yoda! Show us some more droids and get us back on track. :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 08, 2010, 05:10:35 PM

Haha. Actually, I didn't mean to. Seems that I contributed to a massive thread hijack huh?

Quick Yoda! Show us some more droids and get us back on track. :P

Great timing, jack.  I just got done with these. and if a thread is gonna get hijacked, might as well be due to alcohol :P
 
A series of Droids with a theme of the Seven Deadly Sins... First up, Envy.
 
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/7dsenvy.png)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/7dsenvy2.png)
 
Would it be called an angled face spinner?  anyway, tite 3 armor, 5 ants.  One of my few forays into middleweight territory.  More to come later
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 08, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
Very nice. Though in this case, a baseplate anchor would be lighter and stronger than using a ME and a flipper segment.

And I think a lighter component would do for the srimech. You could use the free weight to add some armor against shell spinners. :D
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 08, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
Very nice. Though in this case, a baseplate anchor would be lighter and stronger than using a ME and a flipper segment.

And I think a lighter component would do for the srimech. You could use the free weight to add some armor against shell spinners. :D

Okay, now i feel like a moron.  Was wracking my brain trying to get the angle of it like i wanted, and this was the best i could come up with.  It completely slipped my mind that anchors can be angled.  Simplicity eludes me once more.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 16, 2010, 07:29:20 AM
The next Sin: Sloth. A failure to utilize one's talents or gifts...Laziness.
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/7dssloth.png)
 
 
 
As you can see, I committed this sin in the building of this bot.  The chassis is huge, and there's plenty of open space.  Plus, I was lazy and gave him no way to self right...and yet, he's fairly effective.
 
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/7dssloth2.png)
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 16, 2010, 07:35:42 AM
Lawl.

Of course, to make it better, a smaller chassis is needed. If you could use Perms and bigger saws (attach the other one to the other side of the axle via an extender so it's realistic), it might be able to self-right.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 16, 2010, 09:23:57 AM
Did anyone notice the creepy picture in the Envy splash?

O_O
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on April 16, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
I think that was supposed to be 'see no evil'. I have no idea.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 16, 2010, 09:41:40 AM
It scares me anywayz.

D:
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 16, 2010, 10:59:34 AM
It might be a little too fast for Sloth :P

Anyways the first remembers me of Razorback a lot.

And i better see a ragetoon on Wrath's splash XD
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 16, 2010, 03:21:59 PM
Did anyone notice the creepy picture in the Envy splash?

O_O

I Yoinked that from a series of pics someone did with the Sins as themes.  I've got one for each sin, and Sloth's pic is the tamest one.  The rest can get pretty creepy, admittedly, but sin isn't meant to be pleasant. Wait till you see Pride. 
 
It might be a little too fast for Sloth :P  Dammit!! I didn't even think of that. 

Anyways the first remembers me of Razorback a lot.

And i better see a ragetoon on Wrath's splash XD ohh how you will.

 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 16, 2010, 08:15:20 PM
All those piglets are a huge combination of McDon-.. I mean, weight.

There is a motor (I forget the name and I am too lazy to boot up DSL right now, sloth sin FTW!)  But, anyways, the motor can be choosen with a longer shaft and you can attach two sawblades on it. I think this will save you a bit of weight to play around with other options.

Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: SKBT on April 16, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
For sloth I think it is too reliant on wedges for the weapon to work (Edit:)all the time. I would lower the weapon height. Also JD was refering to the magmotor LX.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 16, 2010, 08:56:59 PM
All those piglets are a huge combination of McDon-.. I mean, weight.

There is a motor (I forget the name and I am too lazy to boot up DSL right now, sloth sin FTW!)  But, anyways, the motor can be choosen with a longer shaft and you can attach two sawblades on it. I think this will save you a bit of weight to play around with other options.

Much better, thanks. forgot all about those. I'm getting very senile it seems.   Didn't wanna go with perms, i think they're overkill for saws, but i wanted a full row of saws.  Got the same effect with 3 less motors now.  Blades are even spaced approximately the same this way too. 
 
For sloth I think it is too reliant on wedges for the weapon to work. I would lower the weapon height. Also JD was refering to the magmotor LX.

extremely reliant on the wedge.  That was the entire point though.  get under them, and sit there letting the saws work their magic...It's slothful in the way it fights as well as the way it was built.   
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Reier on April 17, 2010, 12:00:23 AM
@JD: Yeah but the longer axle ones are drive motors, thus slower and reduce damage unfortunately. :/
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 17, 2010, 03:27:02 AM
Perm 80's ?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 17, 2010, 03:31:24 AM
piglets are fine.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 17, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
@JD: Yeah but the longer axle ones are drive motors, thus slower and reduce damage unfortunately. :/

Slower than a Piglet? I would think that the speed difference would be worth the saved weight because now he can probably construct some rails/arms that guide the bot to keep it on the saws.

@123STW:  Really? But, there are sooooo many of them on the bot.  :P  Meh, nevermind... I wont argue.  123stw is for more superior than I. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 19, 2010, 04:08:47 AM
Perm 80L vs Piglet

A Perm 80L (just long enough for 60cm saw to not cut into it), is 49kg, or 55.5kg with batteries.  This means 27.75kg of motor per saw.
A Perm 80L offers superior spin speed and torque.
A Perm 80L has 400 HP.

A Piglet is 20kg, or 26.5 with batteries (which == motor per saw).
A Piglet has 8000 HP.

Conclusion
Piglets are better for external use.  Perm 80s are better for internal use.  On NAR AI 2.2 however, Perm 80s are better for both.

Yoda can probably build a version with 3x perm 80 inside the chassis.  But then, it won't be sloth anymore.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on April 19, 2010, 04:50:18 AM
I actually like Sloth better now with the (name eludes me, the discussed drive motors).  sure, the damage is slower, but that fits the theme even more.  And i did at one point have 3 perms in there.  next, i think i'm gonna work on the arms to keep the other bot up there.  But i'll probably put that off till later. 
 
And yes, in case you guys couldn't tell, i'm more than willing to sacrifice power to fit a theme.  One of my quirks.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on April 19, 2010, 05:10:49 AM
Sloth should be a med-offense, low-speed, high-defense bot IMO.

Kinda like the BBEANS5 bot that spammed 50+ irons.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 20, 2010, 08:08:51 AM
Finally got out of my "don't feel like making a splash" mood.  So, time for the next sin. 
 
Gluttony:  the over-indulgence and over-consumption of anything to the point of waste.
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/Gluttony1.png)
 
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/starcrosst/Gluttony2.png)
 
Armor is Titanium 5.  64 teeth on 8 discs.  Was tempted to put Overkill wheels on it.  I've always said anything worth killing is worth overkilling.  But, they didn't work out too well, so back to technos i went.   Also, the weapon motors rotate in opposite directions.  seems to help prevent it from doing somersaults.  Not much throwing power for a VS, but that's okay with me.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: G.K. on May 20, 2010, 03:00:20 PM
Sheesh, that looks powerful.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Badnik96 on May 20, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Sick. You should enter that in RIP 2.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 20, 2010, 09:05:15 PM
Sick. You should enter that in RIP 2.

I'm thinking about it.  Gonna play around with a few other ideas first though. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on May 21, 2010, 05:19:55 AM
Like Joy Ride is good :P (It's a cool design, but fails on one wheel. Don't know why)

Also it looks quite good, but why Gluttony ? Because it "eats" bots away with "teeth" ?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 21, 2010, 06:02:03 AM
Like Joy Ride is good :P (It's a cool design, but fails on one wheel. Don't know why)

Also it looks quite good, but why Gluttony ? Because it "eats" bots away with "teeth" ?

lol. Yeah, Joy Ride is much better in the looks department than anything else. 
 
As to why Gluttony, the 'eating' thing is part of it, tends to be more grinderish than a normal VS.  Also, if any of the sins should be represented by a SHW, it's Gluttony.  Annnd..."over indulgence or over consumption TO THE POINT OF WASTE".  There are a few things here on the bot that could've easily been made more effeciently, therefore it's wasteful.  I was extremely tempted to make it a very underweight UHW by a 1 or 2 kgs,  but decided against it.  Thinking about it now, i probably should've overloaded the batteries, or used less efficient ones.  meh.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 15, 2010, 01:11:09 AM
Been awhile, it has.  A new sin, it is time for.
 
Presenting Wrath:  may be described as inordinate and uncontrolled feelings of hatred and anger.
 
Inspired by Christ of the Abyss, I wanted a pseudo-shell spinner without using an actual shell.  I like the fact that it's more of a dome of weapons than the standard 'short cylinder' of the usual shell spinners. 
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68682Wrathbot.png)
 
Efficient? Not a chance. 
Effective? Kinda.
Could be better? Definately
Fun to build and cool to watch, Hell Yes.
 
Titanium 5, if my addled brain recalls correctly.  4 ants, hypno wheels on npc fasts. 
 
Why Wrath?  Something about the design screams a rage-fueled attack to me. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 16, 2010, 07:16:33 AM
DP.
 
Twas playing around with the hovercraft engine, and this happened.  Don't know if this has been seen before.  I thought it was interesting, albeit useless since it only seems to work in the bot lab. 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suaH1f_LzeM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suaH1f_LzeM#)
 
Maybe one of you can figure something out with it. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on July 16, 2010, 08:30:53 AM
what happens if you actually put batteries/control boards in?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Condor33 on July 16, 2010, 08:37:29 AM
I think that happens because the hovercraft engine gets confused and thinks your spinner is the ground, and starts spazzing out trying to hover away from something attached to it. It's like dangling a carrot in front of a horse. Neither work in real life.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on July 16, 2010, 08:41:36 AM
I think the hovercraft engine always wants to stay away from components that are under it (in this case, there always will be components under it). This must be why the engine's begging to be glitched out. XD
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 16, 2010, 08:44:46 AM
what happens if you actually put batteries/control boards in?

Not much difference, really.  Actually seems to spin the motors slower with them in.  messed around with it a bit more using piglets and then dual perms instead, and the bot just flat out self destructed.  Looked like it was trying to tear itself apart.  then it either got destroyed by the ceiling or went flying into oblivion. 
 
 
I think that happens because the hovercraft engine gets confused and thinks your spinner is the ground, and starts spazzing out trying to hover away from something attached to it. It's like dangling a carrot in front of a horse. Neither work in real life.

Yeah, it kinda reminds me of when you put something directly under the hovercraft engine and it goes flying straight upwards.  I think the beater bars were causing it to start doing that, but then there's also enough space that it doesn't at the same time.  Basic confusion, it seems. 
 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 13, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
Wow, nearly a year. 
 
Anyway, this is my take on the whole TRFBD thing so many are doing these days...I wanted to see how it would work with a sawbot....
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7159ISWUDT.png)
 
 
Does it work? kinda.  Not a powerhouse, but I liked it. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on May 13, 2011, 09:02:42 PM
the name hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 13, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
It seemed to fit lol
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on May 13, 2011, 09:27:40 PM
The ant saws seem pointless, though.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 13, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
sawblades won't attach to the multiextenders without them, so unfortunate but necessary
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on May 13, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
Try axles instead.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on May 13, 2011, 09:57:36 PM
Tried that, but doing that I could only get 4 saws in that space.  Or, I could fit all 6, but they'd be unalligned.  And the outer two still have to be on ant saws, since they're attached to the MEs that are holding the dsl bars.  I'm not sacrificing too much weight this way, so think i'll keep the old ants.   
 
Of course, unless i'm missing something, which is always a possibility
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 123savethewhales on May 14, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
Skirt Hinge provides axle connections on the 2 ends.  Though they are a pain to work with.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 03, 2012, 06:00:29 AM

Been awhile, it has....Presenting Two of Seven
Middleweight for RIP3...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35910Lust.png)


Lightweight for RIP3


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48252Pride.png)


Lust: An inordinate craving for pleasures of the body.


  Why is it Lust? Aside from the images on the plows, the sidehammer is setup to (hopefully) hit more of the back of the opponent....spanking them into submission.  Also, if you think of the plows as legs....well, look at the placement.




Pride: An excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God.


A direct lightweight clone of Ogre's 'Emobot' from Survival of the Fittest. Why is it Pride? More of a performance than build theme.  Pride seems to go after the middleweight of the opposing team first, and once that's done, tries everything in it's power to push Lust out of the way to get at the remaining bot. 



Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on July 03, 2012, 06:10:17 AM
bewbsbewbsbewbsbewbsbewbs

You should try stuffing a mag drive in for Pride, though. A simpler box wedge rather than a T wedge should free up some weight.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Mr. AS on July 03, 2012, 09:53:27 AM
hueueueue lust, plowing your opponent...

does the extender on pride come off easily ? 600 hp probably wont last long unless the razors do a bit of protecting it, and i see a whole bunch of empty space in there :|
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Conraaa on July 03, 2012, 10:16:02 AM
Why is it Lust? Aside from the images on the plows, the sidehammer is setup to (hopefully) hit more of the back of the opponent....spanking them into submission.  Also, if you think of the plows as legs....well, look at the placement.

If the plows are legs then someone is in for a surprise :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: MassimoV on July 03, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
I really like lust, for more resons than one. I would use different wheels on Pride, maybe vlads.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Badnik96 on July 03, 2012, 11:24:26 AM
OK, that is just... win.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on July 03, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
lol boobs

Also it's very nice having you back yoda.

Lust is pretty nice, but Pride is a bit disappointing. Pride should be a ridiculously large, bristling with weapons, extremely dangerous-looking but unpractical and mostly a poor fighter, with a skin full of self-righteous, overblown statements, as only a proud builder would build.

Or something like a SHW full of ballasts. Only the proud waste weight, confident that they can defeat their enemies with less weight.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: martymidget on July 03, 2012, 12:41:40 PM
Lust gives me an idea for a HW sidehammer. You're one of those builders who gives me ideas nearly every bot :D

Looking good- lets hope they make it far, you RIP champion :D
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 04, 2012, 04:10:52 AM

Lust is pretty nice, but Pride is a bit disappointing. Pride should be a ridiculously large, bristling with weapons, extremely dangerous-looking but unpractical and mostly a poor fighter, with a skin full of self-righteous, overblown statements, as only a proud builder would build.

Or something like a SHW full of ballasts. Only the proud waste weight, confident that they can defeat their enemies with less weight.


The original Pride was a sit-n-spin that used a strange variety of normal-havin weapons only, overly large chassis and plastic 1 armor with no external armor.  Although it fit the theme a lot better, there were a few problems.  1. it was a heavyweight, 2. there were a few flails, both of these kept me from entering it into RIP3.  Third problem was...I wanted to stand somewhat of a chance.   


The ballast idea is genius.

hueueueue lust, plowing your opponent...

does the extender on pride come off easily ? 600 hp probably wont last long unless the razors do a bit of protecting it, and i see a whole bunch of empty space in there :|


Surprisingly,  I haven't had much of a problem with losing the extenders.  I tend to lose all the razors first, so i'm fine with that.


I just realized I've got one sin left and then i'm done with this series.  Greed's gonna be fun to build :D.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 05, 2012, 02:19:42 AM
Finally, I present the Seventh Deadly Sin......Greed..


The desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50801Greed.png)

]A Flipper/Hammer/HS/flamer/SideHammer/Sawbot/Poker/Rammer/Drum/Sns Hybrid


] The best part, nothing intersects in an unrealistic fashion.  The flipper is, for the most part, worthless, being on the side of the bot, and even if a bot winds up on the flipper arm, the angle of flipping isn't enough to do much.  But damn it, i made a 10-part hybrid.  If that's not Greedy, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Pwnator on July 05, 2012, 03:34:55 AM
THIS IS GLORIOUS

You forgot VS (although the drum would probably double as that already) and FS though  :trollface
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Jack Daniels on July 05, 2012, 04:08:32 AM
Welcome back BTW.  :D

Did you get a new compy or fix the old beast?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 05, 2012, 05:13:55 AM
Thank you thank you.


Finally got a new one. Which means, yes, ITAT will be completed as promised.  Gotta do a few other things first, and get fraps again.   So glad to actually be able to do the things I enjoy again.  The temporary replacement computer was little better than a way to check facebook. 


THIS IS GLORIOUS

You forgot VS (although the drum would probably double as that already) and FS though  :trollface


Originally had a VS on there, but it kept AGODing, so I gave up and took it off.  The FS WAS  simply a matter of forgetting....and weight issues.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: MassimoV on July 05, 2012, 02:41:03 PM
Haha, that's pretty dang hillarious. You should send this 7 Deadly Sins team to Nar AI.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on July 27, 2012, 08:52:49 PM
Found this when going through a bot folder.  This was supposed to be for conraaa's goodguys vs badguys tournament. 


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10602majere.png)


Based on Raistlin and Caramon Majere from Dragonlance.


Raistlin: Plastic 1 armor (yup) to represent him wearing robes and being physically weak and frail.
The flame throwers represent his magic use. 


Caramon: Chainmail 5 armor. (titanium 5, actually) The noble warrior is heavily armored. 
He uses swords in battle. 


Their weights are also following in line with the characters.  Raistlin being the smaller, less muscular of the twins.


These bots were never meant to be good.  I again went more for the theme than anything.  Although Raistlin seems to hold his own if he doesn't havok straight to Tahkisis' realm. 

Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: FOTEPX on July 28, 2012, 10:27:36 AM
Caramon could work with a medium plow and titanium skirts, or, in fact, just the one skirt. The weapon is messy and overall ineffective.

Just Saiyan.

Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: MassimoV on July 28, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
Raistlin looks good but the chassis needs to be smaller.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on August 13, 2012, 04:38:58 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51553wtf.png)




Elevated drum.
Tite 5 armor. Invertible. Lotsa empty space, but I've never really liked the ultra-tiny chassis. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: cephalopod on August 13, 2012, 05:14:17 AM
Wow, I really like that. I imagine it'd be fairly effective too.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on August 13, 2012, 05:23:13 AM
Doesn't do too bad.  sometimes the trapping sheet on the back gets in the way, but more often than not, it serves it's purpose beautifully. fun fact: this was the original concept of Gluttony.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: madman3 on August 13, 2012, 07:40:58 AM
ahahah damnit, I had pretty much this exact idea for my bot for TA2 :P
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on August 16, 2012, 05:08:17 AM
What may very well be my worst idea ever....




(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30126aries rising.png)


A flail rammer. Tite 10 armor. 2 ants.  blue control board, the rest, you can see. Works better than I thought it would. extremely havok prone though
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on August 16, 2012, 05:31:07 AM
it's original... but ugh all those flails
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on August 16, 2012, 06:16:33 AM
agreed, actually.  But it wouldn't exactly be a flail rammer without all those flails  :p
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on August 16, 2012, 07:23:09 AM
agreed, actually.  But it wouldn't exactly be a flail rammer without all those flails  :p

Or you could use less flails and make it a cross between an inertia powered side hammer and a rammer ?
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: madman3 on August 16, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
agreed, actually.  But it wouldn't exactly be a flail rammer without all those flails  :p

Or you could use less flails and make it a cross between an inertia powered side hammer and a rammer ?
Interesting idea but I see limited damage potential from the side hammers.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on August 16, 2012, 07:48:20 AM
agreed, actually.  But it wouldn't exactly be a flail rammer without all those flails  :p

Or you could use less flails and make it a cross between an inertia powered side hammer and a rammer ?
Interesting idea but I see limited damage potential from the side hammers.

What I mean is attaching each weapon rack on a flail. Besides, it won't do less damage than a standard rammer.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Gauche Suede on August 16, 2012, 09:02:55 AM
What may very well be my worst idea ever....




(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30126aries rising.png)


A flail rammer. Tite 10 armor. 2 ants.  blue control board, the rest, you can see. Works better than I thought it would. extremely havok prone though
Nice idea. I imagine that when traping SSes, instead of getting swept away or lose the weapons in 10 seconds flat, the weapon will just flail away with the shell, slowing the shell down a bit, giving you more chance to do something with the SS.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: ty4er on August 16, 2012, 09:04:53 AM
What may very well be my worst idea ever....




(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30126aries rising.png)


A flail rammer. Tite 10 armor. 2 ants.  blue control board, the rest, you can see. Works better than I thought it would. extremely havok prone though
Nice idea. I imagine that when traping SSes, instead of getting swept away or lose the weapons in 10 seconds flat, the weapon will just flail away with the shell, slowing the shell down a bit, giving you more chance to do something with the SS.
...thats pretty much what most trappers do

anyway, it looks like a good idea to me, could be made pretty well as a middleweight/lightweight i imagine
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: yoda9726 on August 11, 2014, 07:12:34 AM
So, I know I finished the Seven Deadly Sins, but there was one that I never really liked.....Pride.   One, I didn't like making it a lightweight, and two, I sacrificed a lot of the theme to make it at least a decent tournament bot.   In the words of the good Doctor....No more. 

DISCLAIMER:  This was ONLY made to fit the theme.  Not looking for improvement advice...I know what I did wrong.

What would the bot-Incarnation of Pride be?   Basically, screw your rules, I can kick your ass without them.  So it is (ironically) with shame I present the newly updated Pride.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9819pride.png)

Let's play spot the problems. 
1. Underweight.
2. Piglet drive
3. Aluminum armor
4. Bad battery choice.
5. Wrong control board
6. Tons of empty space.
7. Two totally useless razors packed inside the chassis
8. Previously mentioned razors attached with an omni- extender thing.
9. Ballast
10. Bad armor plate in the back of the bot.
11. Whatever those teeth are for weapons.

I basically looked over Nary's efficient building guide and did the opposite.   Can it 'kick your ass' with all these problems?  Probably not, but it was kinda fun building THIS bad of a bot and it can (barely) beat quite a few of the standard DSL AI bots. 
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: 090901 on August 11, 2014, 07:21:08 AM
NEEDS MORE ANT BLADES!!!
Oh, and put both the wedges on one skirt hinge for more terribleness
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Natster-104 on August 11, 2014, 07:30:03 AM
Naryar will die when he sees this
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Philippa on August 11, 2014, 08:02:44 AM
This is glorious.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Naryar on August 11, 2014, 08:09:46 AM
Hmph. I can do worse.
Title: Re: Droids from Dagobah
Post by: Domanating on August 11, 2014, 06:33:40 PM
Welcome back Yoda  :smile:
Your bot brings me some good memories of my troll bot  :mrgreen: