Author Topic: Doomkiller's Razor-Filled Bots (Read 54894 times)

Doomkiller · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:08:04 AM »

Quote from: Naryar;34146

And finally i suggest using heavier weapons because the razors are brittle for a HW, and i suppose you know what happens when one of the spinners lose a razor...

it goes nuts

Edit: btw the razors have rarely fallen off for me and how do u put spikes thorugh the ramplate? ive seen it on other bots but i have no idea how to do it

ianh05 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2009, 02:46:57 AM »

learn how to stack.. you really need to know.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2009, 03:22:35 AM »

Quote from: ianh05;34149

learn how to stack.. you really need to know.

how???

somestrangeguy · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2009, 08:20:16 AM »

I can see a Fortified Extender going to the wedge, that is a custom/cheat component too.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #24 on:** April 15, 2009, 12:10:05 AM »

Quote from: somestrangeguy;34154

I can see a Fortified Extender going to the wedge, that is a custom/cheat component too.

i realized that when i had another look at it, so i replaced it for now

heres's another bot i made

a V/S bot
drive: 2 slap happy wheels on 2 NPC-T64 fast
weapon: 8 beaterbars and 2 razor tips on 2 dsl discs powered by double axle e-tek motor
armour: 5mm titanium
Pro: does good damage and good speed
Con: vs against flippers and driving upside down ( it can drive upside down just not very good
comments and ways i can improve round smash

Naryar · « **Reply #25 on:** April 15, 2009, 03:01:50 AM »

I'm really average when building drums, but stil some general advice:

- Putting you wheels inside your chassis will make them nearly impossible to knock off and is much better than using these really heavy spiked wheel guards.

- 5mm titanium is one of the best armors you have and a good choice for a HW.

-There are better wheel choices out there. I suggest tornado's. More grip,; and a faster bot.

- Battery setup is overkill. You'd be enough with 8 ant batteries. Lighter, well powered, less space used, and finally your batteries will last longer.

-Build to the weight limit. ALWAYS. Definitely invest much more weight into your weapon.

-Wedges could be a good idea.

-Also browse the other showcases. Get ideas and techniques there, and it's fine (i'll even recommend it) to copy other good bots when you're in the learning phase: then when you'll be a good DSL bot builder (see me, Inf, R0B0, MikeNCR, Urjak & Reier) you can go with your own style.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #26 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:17:23 AM »

Quote from: Naryar;34229

I'm really average when building drums, but stil some general advice:

- Putting you wheels inside your chassis will make them nearly impossible to knock off and is much better than using these really heavy spiked wheel guards.

- 5mm titanium is one of the best armors you have and a good choice for a HW.

-There are better wheel choices out there. I suggest tornado's. More grip,; and a faster bot.

- Battery setup is overkill. You'd be enough with 8 ant batteries. Lighter, well powered, less space used, and finally your batteries will last longer.

-Build to the weight limit. ALWAYS. Definitely invest much more weight into your weapon.

-Wedges could be a good idea.

-Also browse the other showcases. Get ideas and techniques there, and it's fine (i'll even recommend it) to copy other good bots when you're in the learning phase: then when you'll be a good DSL bot builder (see me, Inf, R0B0, MikeNCR, Urjak & Reier) you can go with your own style.

thanks for the advice but im having a problem putting the wheels inside the chassis with the NPC-T64's but ill keep trying

Edit: here's another version of round smash using naryar's advice

problems are that its not invertible and now its a little slow....

Somebody · « **Reply #27 on:** April 15, 2009, 05:47:39 AM »

Get rid of the inner razor tips and use that weight elsewhere. They are worthless in there.

Naryar · « **Reply #28 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:54:43 AM »

Doomkiller i can make that bot better if you send the .bot file to me.

Urjak · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2009, 09:20:22 AM »

Try to use the Drive E-tech for a drvie motor, and the regular E-tech for a weapon motor. Right now you have the weapon E-tech for your drive motor.

Sage · « **Reply #30 on:** April 15, 2009, 03:50:04 PM »

Quote from: Naryar;34229

- Putting you wheels inside your chassis will make them nearly impossible to knock off and is much better than using these really heavy spiked wheel guards. (What? that just wastes chassis space and exposes your chassis. I would rather lose a wheel than lose a bunch of health. just make better wheelguards doomkiller.)

wut

Naryar · « **Reply #31 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:07:50 PM »

"I would rather lose a wheel than lose a bunch of health"

With that sort of nonsense Hazcon would have NEVER won BBEANS4.

These are not your beloved horizontal spinners Sage !

Sage · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:12:07 PM »

I do believe hazcon's wheels were outside the chassis. Am i wrong?

Naryar · « **Reply #33 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:17:59 PM »

Because i was short on weight and i had no real need to protect the wheels... tell me of ONE juggler with wheel guards.

Different thing on Skimrmish, where i had to protect the wheels for the KotH version.

Sage · « **Reply #34 on:** April 15, 2009, 04:28:04 PM »

Uhh wut?

If hazcon had lost a wheel he would never had won bbeans 4 right? then you go and say there was no need for wheel guards. which of course there wasn't, because you won. so why did you tell doomkiller to put the wheels inside the chassis? why does he need wheel guards or wheels inside the chassis when the bbeans 4 champion didn't?

Naryar · « **Reply #35 on:** April 15, 2009, 05:09:09 PM »

Because he obviously wanted to protect these wheels, and actually i bet that even with 5mm titanium making a bigger chassis which englobes wheels would be lighter and more efficient that a NOS-BOT type wheel guard.

@Doomkiller: Test the bot with wheel guards and without wheel guards, and if it keeps losing wheels without wheel guards then you can use wheel guards.

You can also use a multi extender and a 40cm steel sheet.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #36 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:48:08 PM »

Quote from: Naryar;34232

Doomkiller i can make that bot better if you send the .bot file to me.

i would if i knew how....

btw with the wheel gaurds the bot moved faster

@somebody the razors arnt worthless. they do damage but dont get hit due to the beater bars

ianh05 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:51:13 PM »

how do you know the razors do damage? you know the beater bars do damage right?

Doomkiller · « **Reply #38 on:** April 15, 2009, 06:53:21 PM »

Quote from: ianh05;34291

how do you know the razors do damage? you know the beater bars do damage right?

because when i took of the razors it did less damage thats how

Naryar · « **Reply #39 on:** April 15, 2009, 07:08:28 PM »

For the bot file, you export your bot, you pick off the bot file in Robot Designs, you compress it into a .RAR, upload it in the Gametechmods file uploader and send the link to me.

Quote from: Doomkiller;34292

because when i took of the razors it did less damage thats how

That is theorically impossible. In NO WAY a weapon like razors can do damage and be shielded from damage by another component at the same time.