Author Topic: cephalopod ~ dsl stuff (Read 166764 times)

NFX · « **Reply #340 on:** August 20, 2010, 07:33:32 AM »

New Fevers = <3

You must win something with Fever 3.

martymidget · « **Reply #341 on:** August 20, 2010, 07:43:56 AM »

Doesn't the bar on the spinner slice through the top of the angled shell panel on Fever 3?

But its still awesome. :P

cephalopod · « **Reply #342 on:** August 20, 2010, 07:50:13 AM »

Yes it does. As it does on Fever 2. But none of the angled panels are short enough to prevent that, and I hardly think that tiny extra bit of panel is gonna win me any more matches. In fact, it makes it more likely to fall off as theres more for opponents to hit. It's hardly as if popup weapons don't go through panels of armour, so I don't see the problem.

And thank you NFX :D I'm really fond of these latest ones.

freeziez · « **Reply #343 on:** August 20, 2010, 09:43:38 AM »

Been feeling a little ROBO-ish today.

NFX · « **Reply #344 on:** August 20, 2010, 10:01:29 PM »

Me too, I really like your drive setup on Fever 3. It should actually be quite hard to hit the chassis now unless one of its skirts comes off.

MassimoV · « **Reply #345 on:** August 21, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »

The design on Fever 3 is great. It looks nearly impossible to get to the chassis. Juggernaut (if you still have it) is not as good. I would shrink the chassis and use less batteries.

cephalopod · « **Reply #346 on:** August 22, 2010, 05:55:56 AM »

Well, if you're talking about Battalion (the follow-up to Juggernaut that I posted) it's pretty hard to shrink the chassis much more, and it really does need those batteries to fully power the bursts (even 1 less seems to kill the power).

Thanks for the comments on F3, anyway :D

MassimoV · « **Reply #347 on:** August 22, 2010, 12:39:21 PM »

No problem with F3.

I understand with Battalion.

cephalopod · « **Reply #348 on:** September 19, 2010, 10:22:33 AM »

A small concept-bomb here. Although some are just improvements or edits.

HeartAttack - Tried making an undercutting HS, and to make it as flush as possible, put the motors on limited axles. Doesnt seem great at dealing damage... any help?

Oh, and it also has a habit of doing this.

Next, Expose. Guess why it's called that. Is it any good? My first attempt at a dual LW VS.

Now Beaver. Like Fever, but smaller. Seems about as good as Fuel, which is really something considering that thing had a cheaty motor.

Finally Blood Orange 2 - need definate help here. Gets beaten by the original, but the layout on this is better (I think). I think it's due to the lack of back support, it flips back quite easily, and the skirts are weaker than on the originals. Any advice?

NFX · « **Reply #349 on:** September 19, 2010, 10:33:22 AM »

On the undercutting HS, you might want to consider downgrading to a Perm 132. A Dual Perm HS (I know this) Has a horrendous tendency to gyro dance. I'd probably give it a smaller disc, too, just so I could throw more weapons on there. If you need any more ideas for it, you could take a look at Wedges Are Somewat Nutritious in my showcase.

Expose, I'd try and look at some way of protecting those TWMR3's. I made the same mistake with Wheels Are Tasty 2. And those discss have normals, IIRC. Try giving each of them a bar and some Heavy DS Teeth.

Beaver, change the Micro Wheels for Hypnos. If you're struggling for the weight, I think the chassis could be narrowed by something like 2 pixels to get the .1kg you need.

trumpetguy · « **Reply #350 on:** September 19, 2010, 12:21:09 PM »

On Heartattack, do you have anything on the bottom of the disc to keep off the ground? You should know the rule of weapons touching the ground.

cephalopod · « **Reply #351 on:** September 19, 2010, 01:00:45 PM »

Never heard of such a rule. Will do something about that, and I have a few ideas :)

Naryar · « **Reply #352 on:** September 20, 2010, 01:58:19 AM »

weapons touching the ground do not deal any damage, excepted aganst other weapons.

@NFX: hypnos would be too fast for such a design.

MassimoV · « **Reply #353 on:** September 20, 2010, 08:38:55 PM »

For the wheeling on HeartAttack You might want to stick a long skirt off the back. Oh, and maybe decrease the disc size for better damage. I don't know if I'm giving bad advice, but It seems disc sixe to weapon size is a bit off.

Naryar · « **Reply #354 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:29:27 AM »

Larger discs deal more damage with the same motor and weapon, but take up more time to spin up to speed.

NFX · « **Reply #355 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:47:38 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on September 21, 2010, 02:29:27 AM

Larger discs deal more damage with the same motor and weapon, but take up more time to spin up to speed.

That makes sense, 'cause it's travelling at the same angular velocity, but it has a bigger radius, so the speed at the edge of the disc (Where the weapons are) would increase. I'm not sure if the weight of the larger disc would slow it down at all.

Naryar · « **Reply #356 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:51:00 AM »

Quote from: NFX on September 21, 2010, 02:47:38 AM

I'm not sure if the weight of the larger disc would slow it down at all.

I should go and check with Click's RPM-meter special py.

NFX · « **Reply #357 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:55:02 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on September 21, 2010, 02:51:00 AM

Quote from: NFX on September 21, 2010, 02:47:38 AM
I'm not sure if the weight of the larger disc would slow it down at all.

I should go and check with Click's RPM-meter special py.

I can imagine it might slow it down a fair amount, but with a weapon like this on an HW, I shouldn't think it'd make too much of a difference not to be effective.

Naryar · « **Reply #358 on:** September 21, 2010, 02:57:54 AM »

A dual perm is quite a lot for 120 kg of weapons anyway.

*suddenly thinks of Pyrotechnic Display* FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

NFX · « **Reply #359 on:** September 21, 2010, 03:05:39 AM »

400kg on a Dual Perm seems about right for Weapons Are A Good Snack.