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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: MattW on September 15, 2008, 09:28:18 PM

Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 15, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
I've been playing RA2 on and off since it came out.  I'm wondering why every bot has to be so damn complicated nowadays, with all the stacking and crap.  Why can't they be simple, and realistic looking?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Sage on September 15, 2008, 09:32:42 PM
dsl is for you. stock ra2 is now, what, 5-7 years old? you should be happy its still going on. stacking is part of the game now. the glitches are awesome.

if you want realism, go for DSL.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 15, 2008, 09:37:21 PM
exactly what sage said
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 15, 2008, 09:44:04 PM
How exactly do I get DSL, it confuses the heck out of me.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 15, 2008, 09:48:36 PM
do you have the CD for your game or a downloaded version? I dont think the download version will work though
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 15, 2008, 09:52:39 PM
Torrented version.  My CD is scratched to heck.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 15, 2008, 10:02:41 PM
won't work with torrent, maybe fill the cd with toothpaste, that works for DVD's I watch...
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 15, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
Aww, poo.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: goose on September 15, 2008, 10:12:42 PM
get the CD version of DSL. It will work with the torrent thingy.

stacking is innovation. If everyone thought like you we would all be outside playing with sticks.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 15, 2008, 10:13:04 PM
maybe rebuy the game or something
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: JoeCB1991 on September 15, 2008, 10:51:10 PM
I agree with Sage, DSL users have been able to make bots that could be made in real life, and a lot of them work very well.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 16, 2008, 12:04:39 AM
I've downloaded DSL, and it crashes on me quite a few time, when selecting certain components.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: goose on September 16, 2008, 12:07:37 AM
Quote from: MattW;14978
I've downloaded DSL, and it crashes on me quite a few time, when selecting certain components.
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. word by word by word.

every word.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 16, 2008, 12:18:09 AM
https://gametechmods.com/?do=DSL_DL_Install_Tut_Download
I read and did everything on that.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Naryar on September 16, 2008, 02:10:04 AM
Getting DSL was a PitA, but it's really worth it. Especially if you like realistic bots.

If you got a torrented version of RA2 like me, get the download version of DSL, I think.

It crashes occasionally, or lags, but otherwise works fine.

EDIT: Did you remove the "read only" of all of your RA2 files/folders? It helped for me.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: ACAMS on September 16, 2008, 08:04:27 AM
Go to your DSL folder and delete the Components.cfz (be sure to save it incase you need to put it back)
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 16, 2008, 01:46:10 PM
Alright, I removed the cfz, and it didn't give me any control boards, so I had to re-instate it.

Oh, and excuse my ignorance, but what are the Read-Only files?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Naryar on September 16, 2008, 01:57:12 PM
Ahem.

Read-Only is an option that you can generally tag/untag in the Properties window (in the right click menu)

Read only files are files that can just be read/used by your computer, but not modified.

A lot of RA2 files are read only, including the Components and AI folders.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: ACAMS on September 16, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
UH-OH.........I sense an incorrect installation, just like the one guy who argued with us that extracting directly to the folder is the same thing.....it is not!
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 16, 2008, 05:19:25 PM
Quote from: ACAMS;15015
UH-OH.........I sense an incorrect installation, just like the one guy who argued with us that extracting directly to the folder is the same thing.....it is not!


I extracted to the folder with the game stuff at first.  Then I re-extracted to an empty folder on the desktop, and dragged every folder to the new one, overwriting the old stuff, would that be the problem?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: ACAMS on September 16, 2008, 08:10:32 PM
That is the proper way......if it doesn't work then you have crapass vista and need to disable UAC so you can overwrite files as normal.......but that damn windoze security alert will make you want to kill Bill Gates and kick your computer, and if you have arrainged your favorites folder to your liking......you will have to rearrainge it again. VISTA SUCKS!!!!
 
To disable UAC you need to open the control panel and find User accounts and you will find in small print on the bottom the link to uncheck UAC
 
 
All in all crapass vista is lots better with UAC disabled and having to exit the piece of crap security alert each time you restart your computer. (we should file a class action suit against the multibillion dollar greedy bastards that force us to put up with that crap.)
 
You should delete the folder and rename it to something slightly different as VISTA SUCKS!!!
 
If you don't have vista then YOU messed up, so redo it completely and do it right this time.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Urjak on September 17, 2008, 12:20:20 AM
Nicely said, ACAMS.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Naryar on September 17, 2008, 02:10:06 AM
XP for ever.

I don't know why Microsoft produced some crap like Vista. They should focus on Windows XP corrections/patches, and eventually release a SP3.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: goose on September 17, 2008, 02:21:13 AM
SP3 came out like 4 months ago buddy :p
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: ACAMS on September 17, 2008, 02:14:41 PM
IT STILL SUCKS
 
But they did finally fix the security alert popup with SP3
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: goose on September 17, 2008, 09:14:29 PM
SP3 for XP, SP1 came out for Vista and did ab-salsa-nothing
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Madiaba on September 17, 2008, 11:16:55 PM
I'm an XP-er myself (presently SP2).
 
MattW, did you get it working yet?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Naryar on September 18, 2008, 12:56:50 AM
Same here, SP2 needed to detect the WiFi connection.

So is it worthwhile to get SP3?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Clickbeetle on September 20, 2008, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: MattW;15007
Alright, I removed the cfz, and it didn't give me any control boards, so I had to re-instate it.

Oh, and excuse my ignorance, but what are the Read-Only files?


You should at least have the blue ax2550 DSL control board and the Ant control board.  You DID install DSL 2.0 first, right?  You didn't start right away with the 2.1 patch?
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: JoeCB1991 on September 20, 2008, 07:52:33 PM
I just got Vista last March, but I am not upgrading again until I find out how good the next Windows is.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: MattW on September 23, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: madiaba;15102
I'm an XP-er myself (presently SP2).
 
MattW, did you get it working yet?

Yes I did.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: Flying_Chao on September 23, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
See, this is what happens when one person brings up Vista.
Title: Why all the complicated crap?
Post by: SpyGuy on September 25, 2008, 10:41:02 PM
XP 4 ever.

How's it going, guys?