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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 10:12:22 AM

Title: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
Hi guys I'm new here and I've just posted in the new members section.
I don't know whether this has been mentioned before or whether its a good suggestion but here goes. After using QuickBMS to open the PCMusic and Lumpy files in Robot Wars: Extreme Destruction, I found the textures. I'm sure many of you have done this before. They seem quite good quality and are mostly .TGA files. My suggestion is could we use these textures to make better RA2 modded bots and arenas. Here's two samples; A section of the Robot Wars Arena and Hypno Disk's disk.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28598arena_floor_big_b.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48991hypno1.jpg)
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Thyrus on June 06, 2012, 10:14:09 AM
hey there! welcome to GTM.
I think this idea is worth a try. shouldn`t be to hard to do
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 10:18:35 AM
Yay possibly a good suggestion! It means we could use all of the textures from all of the arenas and bots from the game. The TV Studio arena floor for example seems to be in six sections.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
I'm not actually convinced anyone's done this yet. Nice job.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 10:28:25 AM
I'm afraid I don't have a clue how to do it though as I'm new to RA2...
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: JoeBlo on June 06, 2012, 10:36:24 AM
nothing to it really in RA2.. arena's and components each have "maps" folders


you will find the graphics there.. you cannot do a file swap but with some quick photoshop work (or those silly freebie programs you lot all love so much :P) put the flat artwork into the existing bitmap or targa image files and match it all up nicely
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Mecha on June 06, 2012, 10:40:16 AM
I like the idea. but i really don't know how it would work, that's just me though.
 :welcome
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 10:43:16 AM
It'd be much more difficult for the RW arena I guess, because all the dimensions will be slightly different. In fact, I believe everything is flipped horizontally in the RA2 RW arena.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
Yes it is back to front I noticed that too. I've just put all of the images together to make the full Robot Wars Arena floor plan! Not sure if it will work or not...
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 10:57:39 AM
The Hypnodisc texture would be quite easy to implement though.
*goes to look through files*
In the file Robot Arena 2>Components>Hypnodisc>maps there is a bmp file for the hypnodisc disc. It would be fairly easy to size down the image you pulled out of ED and put it over the still-very-nice version in there.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Gazea2 on June 06, 2012, 11:00:27 AM
Yeah, RA2's files aren't too hard to mod although they can be a bit weird sometimes. Make sure you backup everything before you do something too drastic.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 11:05:09 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41191hypno.png)

There we go, just edited the map. Looks pretty cool, actually.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Mecha on June 06, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
How did you do it that fast? O_o
i really like it though.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: JoeBlo on June 06, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
Quote from: Mechadino on June 06, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
How did you do it that fast? O_o


Uh Take the time to read posts?


Its just some Bitmap editing for RA2.. kids stuff.


Nice work Craaig.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
Magical ninja my friend, magical ninja.
If anyone wants that, just extract this (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Hypno.zip) to your RA2 directory, and overwrite as necessary. (Didn't want to upload a bmp to the server :P)


EDIT: Thanks JB :P
Also, YAY POST 3000. :)
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Mecha on June 06, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on June 06, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
Uh Take the time to read posts?
i did, i didn't know you could do it that fast.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Thyrus on June 06, 2012, 11:10:57 AM
I like this skin better than the DSL one. nice bmpswapjob there craaaig :)
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 11:27:50 AM
Heres some more Hypno-Disk Textures from RW:ED...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93886hypno1.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27223hypno2.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/85269hypno3.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79065hypno4.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68337hypno5.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60546hypno13.jpg)
Any more required for a full reskin?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: cephalopod on June 06, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
I'm not sure the rest will be so easy, as the components aren't the same as they would be on the RW Hypnodisc - the wheels aren't even perfectly round in, and the teeth sure aren't that shape, but they could be used with a bit of work.
Title: Getting there... but a problem
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
Well I've reskinned the wheels and they look nice. But the disk and body have turned out like this. What have I done wrong?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59920New Picture (1).jpg)
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Gazea2 on June 06, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
What exactly did you do? Name each step. You could have messed up a file name or something or it could just be RA2...being RA2.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Badnik96 on June 06, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
hmm. Are they all BMP images?


And yeah, the wheels look really cool. Nice job :D
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
Wait! I've fixed it!  :mrgreen: I had saved it as 32bit, instead of 24bit.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Gazea2 on June 06, 2012, 01:04:55 PM
Haha, I made that mistake the other day but my game crashed. >.>
Good job! It's always good to see an eager modder.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Badnik96 on June 06, 2012, 01:18:36 PM
Can we see the final product?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 06, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
Looks fantastic! Could the same thing be done with Panic Attack's srimech lid?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Heres the finished article, complete with reskinned body, disk and wheels. Quite happy with it as my first reskin.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/67923New Picture (2).jpg)
Oh and I've found Panic Attack's lid.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99732panic14.jpg)
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: MassimoV on June 06, 2012, 01:33:53 PM
That looks really good. Interested in the PA lid.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 06, 2012, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Heres the finished article, complete with reskinned body, disk and wheels. Quite happy with it as my first reskin.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/67923New%20Picture%20(2).jpg)
Oh and I've found Panic Attack's lid.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99732panic14.jpg)
Looks fantastic. Can anyone show me how to change the textures, though?
 
I also very much like the look of that Panic Attack Lid- I bet that I could use that to create a whole new Panic Attack replica for DSL   :approve:
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 01:50:08 PM
Sounds like plan GoldenFox93! Do you want me to upload more Panic Attack textures?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 06, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
Ooh, yes please.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 01:58:32 PM
Here you go
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42999panic13.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/63306panic5.jpg)         
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1531panic8.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26174panic9.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62187panic10.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41203panic13.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31395panic14.jpg) (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62112panic16.jpg)
Is it ok to have this many images in a forum?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: GoldenFox93 on June 06, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
Excellent! Those can be used to make a fantastic PA replica, I'll bet.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: NFX on June 06, 2012, 02:12:27 PM
It's fine to have that many images, yeah. If there are quite a lot, or if they're quite large, then you may want to put them in spoiler tags.

Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Natef on June 06, 2012, 04:32:37 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Mecha on June 06, 2012, 04:49:28 PM
Nice job Ducky. :3
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Tweedy on June 06, 2012, 05:07:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if click uses these for dsl3 now they've been brought to light
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 06, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: plazmic inferno on June 06, 2012, 05:07:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if click uses these for dsl3 now they've been brought to light
Wow really? Well I'd be more than happy to supply the textures from RW:ED to be used in DSL3!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Tweedy on June 06, 2012, 05:30:43 PM
i'd say just message him and ask if he needs them
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Gazea2 on June 06, 2012, 05:38:16 PM
Probably best not to do that. If Click wants to use it he'll say. For now just keep working on it yourself.
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Wolfsbane on June 06, 2012, 07:12:27 PM
Can you upload the Sgt. Bash textures?
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: JoeBlo on June 07, 2012, 04:38:15 AM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on June 06, 2012, 01:45:23 PM
Looks fantastic. Can anyone show me how to change the textures, though?


Its just bitmap editing (and maybe a little targa editing depending on what the component is)


so find the component's own folder, open the maps folder, open the bitmap in Photoshop or your preferred cheap knockoff (:P) and manipulate the images from this thread to fit the existing texture sizes


then save..


to clarify though, this is updating textures, to correctly make new skinned components you need to edit the model files...
Title: Re: Using RW:ED Textures in RA2?
Post by: Ducky on June 07, 2012, 06:28:28 AM
I'd love to see a Bash replica with these textures! Here you go!
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