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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: Sage on September 12, 2010, 11:29:17 AM

Title: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2010, 11:29:17 AM
Got a good amount of votes from a ton of forum members! Good job everyone!

Now, for the rankings...

STOCK TOP 7

7th place, we have a tie! JoeBlo and The Ounce, 10 points each!
6th place, Virus Bomb, with 14 points!
5th place, Scrap Daddy, with 20 points!
4th place, Clickbeetle, with 44 points!
A tie for 2nd place, both with 46 points... Pwnator and R0b0sh4rk!!
And in first place, with 55 points, is Sage!

Now moving on...

DSL TOP 7

7th place, R0b0sh4rk, with 16 points!
6th place, JoeBlo, with 19 points!
5th place, Clickbeetle, with 21 points!
4th place, The Ounce, with 37 points!
3rd place, Pwnator, with 45 points!
In 2nd place, with 52 points... it's Naryar!
And in first place, with an overwhelming 64 points, 123savethewhales!

And now...

TOP 3 CONTRIBUTORS

Tied for second place, Clickbeetle and ACAMS for 34 points!
And the top contributor is Madiaba, with 42 points!

Joeblo came in a close 4th at 30 points.





Congratulations to everyone! Cookies for all.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Gazea2 on September 12, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
Congrats, everyone! You all deserve it! :D
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 12, 2010, 12:31:46 PM
Congrats everyone!

Sage, can we see the tallies?
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Somebody on September 12, 2010, 12:32:39 PM
Congrats guys!
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2010, 02:26:03 PM
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Gazea2 on September 12, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
I didn't even get a vote this time. :( xD
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 12, 2010, 02:28:56 PM
:O

I got a DSL vote for 5th? Holy....

And my votes are first again w00t!
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Virus Bomb on September 12, 2010, 02:33:38 PM
lol @ only one vote for me in DSL
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Jonzu95 on September 12, 2010, 02:41:24 PM
No votes for me? :FFFUUU
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Somebody on September 12, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
Who else voted for me?
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 12, 2010, 03:30:35 PM
Who voted for me?
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Badnik96 on September 12, 2010, 03:50:22 PM
Who voted for me?
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: martymidget on September 12, 2010, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on September 12, 2010, 03:50:22 PM
Who voted for me?

Ditto O.o


Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 12, 2010, 04:57:08 PM
I had you at 7th, but I probably shouldn't have since I forgot The Ounce... again O.o. Oh well, where I have him dosen't change any of the rankings though.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2010, 05:17:22 PM
I'm not disclosing who voted for who. If people want to tell they can.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: NFX on September 12, 2010, 06:45:55 PM
Who the heck voted for me as best DSL builder? XD Bit of a wasted vote, I imagine, I'm nowhere near the level of Ounce or Naryar.

Anyways, big congratulations to everyone who won. =]
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 12, 2010, 07:14:07 PM
DSL ranks seem a little jumbled but FINALLY everyone got together and voted Madiaba as Top Contributor  :gawe:

congrats everyone.. and woo 2 ranks
 
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Pwnator on September 12, 2010, 08:51:36 PM
yay top 3 in both categories =D
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 13, 2010, 01:25:14 AM
I was being modest about myself and put you a few spots ahead of me in Stock. If I didn't, you'd be 3rd, not T-2nd with me :P
 
And I feel bad about forgetting The Ounce again  :rage
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: The Ounce on September 13, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
That sucks, I didn't get to vote this time.

Don't feel bad R0B0, I always thought Pwn was the better out of us two anyway; he can build designs that are both original and effective.

Still, losing my place in the top three DSL builders.............   :rage
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 13, 2010, 08:47:46 AM
My votes were the ones starred out in the tallies.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on September 13, 2010, 09:14:45 AM
No votes? Oh well, I wouldn't have expected any recognition/notice of my existence.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 13, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
DSL and Stock ratings are roughly fine for me... though is Joey really that good as a builder ?

And me getting a vote in stock ? LOL
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2010, 09:53:34 AM
well.. since the last ranks I have won 4 BOTM's and 2 Tournaments and reached final 12 in BBEANS (including defeating the previous DSL champ and his invincible armor :P)

thats 3 achievements in each game... I didn't put myself top 7 in stock but I feel the the DSL one is easily earned 
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Vertigo on September 13, 2010, 02:04:25 PM
LOL, someone voted me as 3rd best DSL builder?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?
Wat
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Scrap Daddy on September 13, 2010, 07:05:29 PM
lol who voted for me in dsl?
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 13, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
@ Scrap: I had you at 5th in DSL.

Quote from: JoeBlo on September 13, 2010, 09:53:34 AM
but I feel the the DSL one is easily earned

...I'm not really sure of that... TBH I have you outside of my top-10 :|

Also, I gave Nary the lowest DSL vote he recieved :P
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2010, 11:17:11 PM
why you hate'n on me every time we do ranks?
 
if statistics mean anything I am currently the most successful builder according to tournament/contest wins. that has got to count for something.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
This is news to me *c*.

BOTM means very little when it comes to botting skill IMO, and the two tourneys you won... weren't exactly BBEANS. I don't really like being cold to good people, so sorry :( That's just the way I see it.

If it makes you feel any better, I did have you in the top-3 contributors this time around :D
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on September 13, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
Also, I gave Nary the lowest DSL vote he recieved :P

...I don't think we have something in common anymore...

Maybe certain beliefs like these
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
BOTM means very little when it comes to botting skill IMO,
but why do i still keep you in such high standards when you are so easy at criticizing me ??? NAR AI now the ranks ???
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 04:13:13 AM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
Maybe certain beliefs like these
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
BOTM means very little when it comes to botting skill IMO,

haha you guys just dont like it because you cant beat me. :P
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 05:16:51 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 04:13:13 AM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
Maybe certain beliefs like these
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
BOTM means very little when it comes to botting skill IMO,
haha you guys just dont like it because you cant beat me. :P
Such a childish reply. Do you think we have kid mindsets ?

No. BOTM is mostly about originality and splashmaking skill, NOT top building skill.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 06:10:49 AM
*pokes Nary* im just teasing you both, you need to lighten up a bit mister grumpy pants :P
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 06:49:00 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 06:10:49 AM
im just teasing you both

OOOH ! Thank you muchly Mr. Awesome, i ABSOLUTELY NOT did not guessed that by myself !
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 07:39:45 AM
good to hear, also thanks for the nickname  :gawe:
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
It's just really to keep you thinking you're awesome when you're not :P
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: NFX on September 14, 2010, 08:15:37 AM
I did put JoeBlo as one of the top builders, less for overall combat effectiveness, but more in terms of the ingenuity of the design of most of his bots. Things like Dimension and Blitzkreig in BOTM, and Focus Fire in TA. It's better than sticking to popups and flail spinners all the time.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
It's just really to keep you thinking you're awesome when you're not :P

I dont need to think I am awesome... awesome comes naturally for me  :gawe:
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
It's just really to keep you thinking you're awesome when you're not :P

I dont need to think I am awesome... awesome comes naturally for me  :gawe:

Thus spoke the mighty joeblo.

WE DEFINITELY NEED TO WRITE THIS IN HISTORY :O
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
yes we should, and while your at it you can do your half of staying back on topic and Ill do mine  ;)
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 14, 2010, 10:53:33 AM
I see 'The Epic of GTM' ensuing.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 08:36:24 PM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
but why do i still keep you in such high standards when you are so easy at criticizing me ??? NAR AI now the ranks ???

TBH, I don't consider Nar AI as DSL, so in my view, you don't build DSL anymore. I just put you on there 'cause I know you're too good at DSL to leave off.
 
 
Quote from: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 04:13:13 AM
Quote from: Naryar on September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
Maybe certain beliefs like these
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 12:56:45 AM
BOTM means very little when it comes to botting skill IMO,

haha you guys just dont like it because you cant beat me. :P

Oh, but I can. I'm just too lazy to enter 95% of the time :P
 
As a bit of a relevant side note, I compare your building to candy. It looks good and all the kiddies come running when they see it (hence, vote-based contest victories), but it's not like really a good steak (here: top-tier building) in the sense that, while it may taste good it lacks much substance. It's still popular with the kids, but IMO builders who can craft "steak" are more skilled.
 
Crap, I'm hungry now >.>
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Sage on September 14, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
Quote from: NFX on September 14, 2010, 08:15:37 AM
I did put JoeBlo as one of the top builders, less for overall combat effectiveness, but more in terms of the ingenuity of the design of most of his bots. Things like Dimension and Blitzkreig in BOTM, and Focus Fire in TA. It's better than sticking to popups and flail spinners all the time.

I made Blitzkreig with him!
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Scrap Daddy on September 14, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
yeah, really should be called splash of the month instead.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2010, 08:54:45 PM
I did say everyone back on topic  :rolleyes:

There is no point debating since its done, the ranks are decided. I look forward to see your next complaint when we do the sixth Tally R0B0.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 14, 2010, 11:55:08 PM
OOOORRRRRR, we could head back over to the Backlash thread xD

I wouldn't say they're complaints. Complaining implies that it's causing me grief when they're not...

Also, now is the time to debate BECAUSE it's done. Now that we have a general consensus of what the community feels, we can debate and discuss who was left off, who was ranked suprisingly high, who got snubbed, who may be on the next one, etc.

There is always a point to debating!
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Madiaba on September 15, 2010, 01:55:07 AM
Setting 'Top Bot Builders' categories aside for a moment, while it's true that I do a lot of background facilitating, Joe has done a lot of overt work to help out the community.  Top Contributor is broad and generic; Top DSL builder is very specific. Perhaps we need to adjust our taxonomy to more specific contributions, such as 'Top': Tourney Facilitator, General Assistance, Tech Assistance, Newb Helper, Innovative Bot builder, Innovative Coder, Innovative Thinker(Forum input), Wiki Worker,...
 
Facilitating stuff is very time consuming,... for me at least.  I'll confess that the last 2-3 tourneys I entered, Sage was nice enough to build a bot for me, cause I just couldn't do it and all the arena work too (though I probably AI.py-ed it). Mucho thanks to Sage. :mrgreen:
 
CB, usually runs BBEANS, builds an arena, and enters a bot too... :eek:   The amount of effort here is not appreciated, IMHO.  Sure he's not online at GTM as much as the rest of us, but he's still working in the background.  Order doesn't happen by itself...(magic). 
 
What I'm saying is that the 'Top Contributor' category utilizes an 'Iceberg Assessment' dynamic, which is not very objective/accurate.  More specific categories may help this problem...

 
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Somebody on September 15, 2010, 06:08:45 AM
We need a best tourney host ranking.

Edit: 5600th post :O
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2010, 06:22:15 AM
would be pointless because the result would be Clickbeetle with all the votes :P
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: G.K. on September 15, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Quote from: Madiaba on September 15, 2010, 01:55:07 AM
as 'Top': Tourney Facilitator, General Assistance, Tech Assistance, Newb Helper, Innovative Bot builder, Innovative Coder, Innovative Thinker(Forum input), Wiki Worker,...

I vote for this.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Sage on September 15, 2010, 06:24:34 PM
The amount of votes needed to be sent to cover those topics would daunt people to not vote.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2010, 08:55:13 PM
I have to agree there, its a nice idea but we had trouble just getting people to vote top 10 previously

its all just public opinions though, doesnt actually make you the worlds greatest builder or contributor.

for an accurate result based on building you needed S32 to follow through with his tournament ranks thingo 
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Naryar on September 16, 2010, 06:11:54 AM
Most tournaments, excepted for the no bracket ones, do involve a healthy amount of luck so not really.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: NFX on September 16, 2010, 06:27:14 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo on September 15, 2010, 08:55:13 PM
for an accurate result based on building you needed S32 to follow through with his tournament ranks thingo

I would actually have to disagree with you there, Joe, and side with Naryar on this one. For instance, you built Focus Fire for Total Annihilation, which I would argue was the best built bot there, it was probably more creative than most others, and it did win the Best Design award. Whereas VQ2 kinda stayed out of the way of flippers and popups, and managed to survive more than destroy opponents, and ended up winning the whole thing. And in the Second round of the final, it was literally only a second away from being eliminated. Luck does play a part in most tournaments, just ask Rampant Puppy Love.
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 16, 2010, 04:57:44 PM
Nobody voted for me... and I am ok with that :D

I don't need votes or rankings to be a complete human being.   :p
Title: Re: The Ranks- Fifth Tally (VOTES ARE IN!)
Post by: NFX on September 16, 2010, 05:54:52 PM
I received one vote.

I know my place. =P
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