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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: The Red Blur on April 07, 2016, 02:31:18 PM

Title: Question on bot types
Post by: The Red Blur on April 07, 2016, 02:31:18 PM

I have recently submitted a bot into the "Rival Rumble" tournament, and I was given the bot type "clamp"



Here is my bot:-


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28718coup de gravy question.png)


Now, Thrackerzod is unsure on what the type of this bot is, and is cautious when entering the bot into the tournament.


So, my question is, do you think this bot is a side-hammer, or a clamp? (see poll above)


Thanks in advance for the help,
Red


P.S. if you think it is a side-hammer, could you please give examples of a clamp, just to ensure I can make an actual clamp in the future.
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: RedAce on April 07, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Dude, that's a side hammer.  If you want to know how a clamp works look at this page. (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Clamp)
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Fracture on April 07, 2016, 02:45:00 PM
Depends on what the arms are attached to. With the starting position like that, it can only be a clamp if it's servos

Side hammer = Repeatedly swing at chassis to deal repeated shots of damage
Clamp = Slowly hug chassis and hold on to deal sustained damage and/or remove their mobility (can be done with crushing servos, or burst motors that start in the "closed hug" position then go into "open hug" when they fire)
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 07, 2016, 02:50:05 PM
When I gave RedAce "Clamp" I pretty much meant what's on the Wiki.
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Thrackerzod on April 07, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
I also felt like it was a side hammer, but was thinking that maybe you could technically call it a "horizontal clamp". 
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: 09090901 on April 07, 2016, 04:10:22 PM
if you've ever seen complete control, thats what a clamp is trying to emulate. just import either fight or flight or gaurd duty and look at how they work
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Naryar on April 07, 2016, 06:24:26 PM
that's a side hammer man.

A clamp, by definition, is built to grab enemies. This bot does not grab, it simply hammers the sides repeatedly.

Quote from: Thrackerzod on April 07, 2016, 03:05:11 PM
I also felt like it was a side hammer, but was thinking that maybe you could technically call it a "horizontal clamp". 

no no. a horizontal clamp grabs bots with his arms. a side hammer does not do this and just strikes repeatedly.

both designs look similar but don't work similarly.

for taking Robutt Wars examples, horizontal clamp = tough as nails & splinter.
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: yugitom on April 07, 2016, 07:03:53 PM
Splinter is a clamp :P
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Naryar on April 08, 2016, 04:39:06 AM
alright, nevermind, bad example. I'm clearly not knowledgeable enough about RW.
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot, so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Badger on April 10, 2016, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot, so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Quote from: RedAce on April 07, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Dude, that's a side hammer.  If you want to know how a clamp works look at this page. (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Clamp)
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Badger on April 10, 2016, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot, so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Quote from: RedAce on April 07, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Dude, that's a side hammer.  If you want to know how a clamp works look at this page. (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Clamp)

Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot , so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: DeadGenocide on April 10, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Badger on April 10, 2016, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot, so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Quote from: RedAce on April 07, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Dude, that's a side hammer.  If you want to know how a clamp works look at this page. (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Clamp)

Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot , so I can see how a clamp works properly?

Just look at Fight Or Flight.
It should be in the BBEANS AI pack.

I really meant to say horizontal clamp but I didn't so :P.


Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: Badger on April 10, 2016, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Badger on April 10, 2016, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot, so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Quote from: RedAce on April 07, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Dude, that's a side hammer.  If you want to know how a clamp works look at this page. (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Clamp)

Quote from: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 09:04:32 AM
I think I understand. Does anyone have a link to a clamp type bot , so I can see how a clamp works properly?
Did you even read that page. Are you serious. Not only does it display a clamp, it shows how it works, and gives links to 4 or 5 clamp bots.
Title: Re: Question on bot types
Post by: The Red Blur on April 10, 2016, 10:33:58 AM
Thanks for the help, DG, will do!
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