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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: goose on August 26, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
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I have noticed since I've been back that the overall posting quality has gone down, A LOT.
There has been a drastic increase in double posts, pointless bumps, thoughtless posts, even the trolling/flaming is bad quality.
Please guys, this is not an instant messenger. You have time to think out your posts and user proper English. Do so.
Sadly we lack the vets that used to keep order. ACAMS,Mad,Clickbeetle, and myself are becoming increasingly more busy with things outside of the RA2 world;so it is hard to keep order.
I'm not sure if this thread will do anything, but it has been on my mind so I needed to say something.
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Me and Pysc nominate ourselves for New World Order.
*okayokayalittlesarcastic* but alot of the stuff that I know me and pysc get on our haunches for is because of things that other people do that are just flat out dumb. not listening to peoples advice for their own good and talking about stuff that they have absolutely no knowledge about comes to mind.
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Old people left. New dippy people joined.
The new generation.
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Goose, could you IM me please on MSN?
Thanks.
Mad.
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We have had alot of a new people lately, and they haven't learned to post correctly yet (Yes, Hypno, I am talking about YOU:roll:)
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I agree totally with goose... I especially thought that it was annoying for someone (not calling out anyone) to create an "I need help!" thread and then 30 minuites later, post that they fixed the problem themselves. Something has to be done.
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i have time if you need someone to keep order. i know you're not really supposed to ask to become a moderator... but just putting it out there.
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Indeed, I do as well.
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We should have people nominate other people for a new moderator and vote 1 person in.
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me :D
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Revision: You ahouldn't be able to nominate your self.
This is not anything against you man manu, but I think that people should only nominate other people, so that way their won't be a ton of people that are nominated because they nominated themselves. I could see someone like Barbie or Sage being a moderator.
Obviously if this happens, it is up to them to decide the rules. I am just suggesting them.
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Psycolone. I'd vote Inf but he'd probably ban me on his first day.
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S32: This is NOT the thread to nominate people, this is a thread to discuss the bad post quality. It might not even happen. And, you are wrong about Inf, he would ban me too, and every newbie that comes to the site.
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you should have seen how cruel inf was to me in my beginning days. now we're great friends. he just has to get to know you better.
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I keep very long grudges. It's just me.
I think we need Role models. Like Scrap Daddy or Clickbeetle.
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sage: how do you "get to know" Inf?
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by being an actual individual and not such a TOOLBAG.
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by becoming a good builder.
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we could try stop so negative you know, that might help...
...please don't shout at me...
...if that sounds like a bad idea...
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Helping people become better builders is good, as Inf did when he sent me 2 popups, and now I can build them.
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Helping people become better builders is good, as Inf did when he sent me 2 popups, and now I can build them.
and you say hes mean. hmmm.
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Psycolone. I'd vote Inf but he'd probably ban me on his first day.
Pysc would ban you before I did. But youra dipwad and you dont understand when to just hush up when you have no say in something that someone with more experience could provide better feedback instead of you going off and saying something completely irrelevant or wrong.
S32: This is NOT the thread to nominate people, this is a thread to discuss the bad post quality. It might not even happen. And, you are wrong about Inf, he would ban me too, and every newbie that comes to the site.
I've seen hope in you, dont make me change my mind.
Honestly I dont know who i'd suggest as a moderator, considering Pysc and myself use some pretty harsh words.
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I agree totally with goose... I especially thought that it was annoying for someone (not calling out anyone) to create an "I need help!" thread and then 30 minuites later, post that they fixed the problem themselves. Something has to be done.
sorry.:-(
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Somehow I can totally see this turn into something very e-political very fast judging by what has happened in this thread so far.....
But Goose I can totally understand where you are coming from with this. I have seen a downfall in posting quality myself in the past few months alone, and there have been far too many unnecessary flame wars going on. I don't know if a new moderator would help this problem, but I think everybody that reads this should definitely think about their posting habits and how they could change for the better. Things like Infinite's summer Magic and things of that nature have all been taken very heavily off course because of fighting about things that have nothing to do with it. That project could have probably been close to finished by now if it wasn't for such distractions.
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Thread was derailed on page on, PAGE ONE.
It's nice the forum isnt as strict anymore, so you know where people actually post now.
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The Forums have not been strict for quite a while (Since ACAMS took over as head admin). I dont quite understand what you are talking about DEX.
there are just a few members that seem to post off topic. We will take care of them.
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I've seen hope in you...
Thanks, that means alot to a noob like me.
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The Forums have not been strict for quite a while (Since ACAMS took over as head admin). I dont quite understand what you are talking about DEX.
I was talking about the old forum, and how nobody posted really. And when we switched over to this forum there was a sudden boom a new members and activity.
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For one, I just don't see the point in many of these posts being made. I try to keep my posts to a high-standard, and only post where I feel it is necessary to post. Personally, in my opinion, if (I'm sure I've said this before somewhere else before) everybody just went back to "please" and "thank you" trolling and flaming, etc. would sharply decrease.
Respect in general is something this forum seems to be lacking. Respect for modders, tourney hosts, and noobs is mostly a distant memory, but what suprises me is some of the lack of respect for the veterans that has been shown. These guys, like, Pys and Inf have continually raised the bar and given the next generation something to strive for in terms of building. Without players like them, I guarantee that this community, no matter how small it may be, would have died long ago. And in my time here at GTM, I have not seen respect go towards them at all.
Respect is a two way thing, that, as I have seen, in the forum setting must initiate from the new member. When you join, nobody knows who you are, what you can do, and what you're willing to do. You cannot just demand respect right when you waltz in. It just dosen't work like that. Respect the vets, and they in turn will respect you.
What many noobs don't realize is that there is a very strong heirarchy here based on skill. Not grammar, attitude, or friendliness, but pure skill. It has been so deeply ingrained in RA2's culture, that any noob that casually strolls in and goes against this notion, purposely or otherwise, looks heretic. What we as the community have to understand, is that they don't understand until it is spelled right out for them.
And for all of us, we must remember that this is the internet. Things in writing almost never are understood they way they are meant to be. It's a very im-personal form of communication. Chances are, if something sort of sounds like a flame, it's not meant to be, so it should just be disregarded, instead of over-reacted to. No one here should let themselves be easily provoked. Take the high road. I think that if everybody did that, we'd see much less flaming which makes up, as sad as it may be, a good portion of the forum's posts.
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Amen to R0B0SH4RK. Theres not one builder who I am now friends with who I did not once criticize, except for k343 because I ''Grew Up" in this community with him and Pyscolone because he was the builder whom I idolized.
Ask Sage.
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thank you R0B0SH4RK, Thank you! my respect for you has skyrocked.
seriously, everyone should read your post 5 times.
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ROBOSH4RK: WOW. That post was perfect!
I completely agree, and I think that all noobs should understand the heirarchy as soon as possible, to avoid flame wars. But, I do think that maybe some of the veterans, such s Psy, Inf, and Sage, might want to try to be a little nicer than they are to some of the new members. The forums would be fine without them being nicer, (and it is amazing when you think about their contribution to the game and the forums) I am just saying that it might help. And there are way too many flame wars.
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All hail R0B0.
I'll try to be a better builder.
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Bravo, Robo. Bravo.
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ROBOSH4RK: WOW. That post was perfect!
I completely agree, and I think that all noobs should understand the heirarchy as soon as possible, to avoid flame wars. But, I do think that maybe some of the veterans, such s Psy, Inf, and Sage, might want to try to be a little nicer than they are to some of the new members. The forums would be fine without them being nicer, (and it is amazing when you think about their contribution to the game and the forums) I am just saying that it might help. And there are way too many flame wars.
you think im mean? its the first time ive been mentioned along with pysc and inf...
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No, you are nowhere near them, but you are a vet and you have been a little meaner lately.
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All veterans grow more evil with age...<3
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Not always, look at Click and Mad.
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We're working on it....
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We're working on it....
Don't try to fool me Mad. You'll be evil when pigs will fly.
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A pig just flew by my window :O
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And as a spider you tried to catch it?
Posting Quility has taken a dirrastic downturn
...indeed.
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Pigs could fly. You never specified how, so we could put one on a jet:) Then Urjak could shoot it down with spider web.
Fact: A one inch band of Spider silk could stop a Boeing 747 in midair without breaking
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Not always, look at Click and Mad.
Or me? Last I checked I wasn't very evil.
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K-3, look at you user-name.... *hehe*.
But mine is "Mad".....
"Goose" sound neutral.
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beetle is mean to some people, especially people who are afraid of bugs...
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But mine is "Mad".....
LOL nice one.
But mad isn't necessarily evil you know.
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"how to ruin a thread in 1 post" by naryar. credits to "how to ruin a thread in 3 words" by hydro.
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Don't try to fool me Mad. You'll be evil when pigs will fly.
*looks out my window to watch a formation of A-10 Warthogs flying by overhead to the military base* You have no idea of how evil Madiaba can be, Naryar. I do, because I've worked with him on several projects.
Good post, RoboShark.
I nominate that Man Manu NOT be made a moderator.
Nice BOTM, Sage. How hard does she hit?
I may not have been around too much lately, but I've even noticed the decline in posting lately. All the n00bs are making nearly useless posts, and a bunch of the old crowd have disappeared into the shadows. Others just don't have enough time for the game anymore, and have faded into obscurity (yah, me ... case in point). At least there are still a bunch of RA2 diehards hanging out here, so there will be SOME quality postings. As for me, I don't have a chance of being a moderator, and like a few other guys you mentioned, I'd be banning people right and left.
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Don't try to fool me Mad.
I didn't even realized this.
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I have noticed since I've been back that the overall posting quality has gone down, A LOT.
There has been a drastic increase in double posts, pointless bumps, thoughtless posts, even the trolling/flaming is bad quality.
Please guys, this is not an instant messenger. You have time to think out your posts and user proper English. Do so.
Sadly we lack the vets that used to keep order. ACAMS,Mad,Clickbeetle, and myself are becoming increasingly more busy with things outside of the RA2 world;so it is hard to keep order.
I'm not sure if this thread will do anything, but it has been on my mind so I needed to say something.
My favorite part of this would definately have to be the grammer mistakes in the sentence of...
"Please guys, this is not an instant messenger. You Have time to think out your your posts and USER proper English. Do so."
and better yet... "increasingly more busy"...
Is this the kind of flaming you would prefer?
seriously I'm JP :-P
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It took you longer than the average n00b, but you bumped a topic. Check the last post date before you post to see that it isn't 3 months ago.
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Actuallly a bump of THIS topic is a good idea.
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Because it's a sticky, it's not actually possible to bump it.
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Good point, but he bumped others two.
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What is with this guy?