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Title: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Avalanche on August 07, 2015, 12:56:03 PM
Seeing as Hero Of War's showcase was headed towards derailing, I decided to make a discussion thread. The logical conclusion for Ironforge UHW is 2500kg, but could it be 800KG? Much easier to make. However, seeing as SHW is 600kg, why not have a new weightclass for 800kg instead of UHW? While this would mean you would need a antiballast if you wanted to attach ballasts to one, you could just make one. Hell, I will get on with one once we pick a name for this.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: 090901 on August 07, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
new weight class at 800kg actually sounds kinda fun
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Reier on August 07, 2015, 01:14:53 PM
isnt shw already 600-800kg and uhw 800-2500
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Philippa on August 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
isnt shw already 600-800kg and uhw 800-2500
No, Superheavyweight is 400 Kg - 600 Kg.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Naryar on August 07, 2015, 02:28:41 PM
We should have a new weightclass at 800 kg, yes. As for the name, I have no idea.

And maybe UHW at 1200 ?
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: playzooki on August 07, 2015, 03:00:58 PM
the name should be ogreweight
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: helloface on August 07, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
For once Avalanche had a good idea.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: cephalopod on August 07, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
Mega heavyweight sounds dumb but I'm all for the inclusion of an 800kg weight class.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 07, 2015, 05:10:22 PM
Maybe Megabots as the weightclass name ?
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Philippa on August 07, 2015, 05:55:45 PM
Or you could move the existing weight classes up and add like a Bantamweight of something further down the line?

Or Extraheavyweight/Overheavyweight.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: kill343gs on August 07, 2015, 07:27:47 PM
gigaheavyweight
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Somnium on August 07, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
I would think it makes sense for 800kg to be UHW and 2500 to be GHW.  My two cents.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Thrackerzod on August 07, 2015, 09:09:47 PM
I like Mega Heavyweight.  It's like in pokemon.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Naryar on August 08, 2015, 03:44:57 AM
LW:125
MW:200
HW:400
SHW:600
UHW:800
GHW:1200

it breaks the "stock = ironforge x2" weight limit rule at higher classes, but anyways the 5000/10000 weight classes are a bit dumb in stock. there should be a 2500 kg weight class because everytime I build a DSL UHW I stop at 2500 and then you only try to add random components to go up to 5000. Ever wonder why half of the Clash of the Titans entries were multibots ?
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Thyrus on August 08, 2015, 03:48:24 AM
Über Öber heavyweight
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Avalanche on August 08, 2015, 06:33:14 AM
LW:125
MW:200
HW:400
SHW:600
UHW:800
GHW:1200

it breaks the "stock = ironforge x2" weight limit rule at higher classes, but anyways the 5000/10000 weight classes are a bit dumb in stock. there should be a 2500 kg weight class because everytime I build a DSL UHW I stop at 2500 and then you only try to add random components to go up to 5000. Ever wonder why half of the Clash of the Titans entries were multibots ?

Fully agree with this. Will re make the poll putting this in.

Also, Should we bother with cruiserweight or should we permenantly kill it? It might actually fit in now, seeing as i sometimes hit over MW. Might be good.
So the list now would be:

AW - 70kg
BW - 90kg
LW - 125kg
MW - 200kg
HW  - 400kg
SHW - 600kg
UHW - 800kg
GHW - 1200kg
And possibly
CW - 300kg
TW (Titanweight) - 2500kg
UOW (Über Öber Weight) Limitless.

Removing poll, replacing with new. This is so you can actually change your vote.

Should UOW just be Uberweight?
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Naryar on August 08, 2015, 06:43:36 AM
CW isn't really necessary in ironforge seeing that the weights have been divided by two. But we can keep it.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Avalanche on August 08, 2015, 06:57:30 AM
Poll is up. I do think that UOW could use a better name. Maybe just Überweight, seeing as Over can be translated to Über? (Google Translate has 15 different translations, so if Thyrus can confirm, that would be great.)
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on August 08, 2015, 08:16:51 AM
the name should be ogreweight
seconded
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Avalanche on August 08, 2015, 08:22:15 AM
the name should be ogreweight
seconded
No.
All your hopes are destroyed and its all ogre now.
But yeah, no. Unless you want UOW to be Overweight, and you can call it Ogreweight.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: cephalopod on August 08, 2015, 09:07:44 AM
TW and UOW or whatever just seem dumb. We have enough classes without them, and frankly I don't reckon even GHW will get built much, let alone anything higher.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Sage on August 08, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
guys guys we need a different weight class every 5kg
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: 090901 on August 08, 2015, 10:57:48 AM
why are we now changing existing weight class names around instead of just making the one new one at 800 kg?
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Virus Bomb on August 08, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
guys guys we need a different weight class every 5kg
why are we now changing existing weight class names around instead of just making the one new one at 800 kg?

agreed. also uhw at 800 kg sounds lame af
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on August 09, 2015, 09:47:43 AM
Ogreweight at 800 UHW is anything over. Cruiser weight has always been unnecessary.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Naryar on August 09, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
UHW at 800 kg may be lame but it suits the name progression, if not the weight progression.

i'm just saying if ironforge is half stock (which is the word of 123) then

AW = 72,5 so 75 for simplicity
BW = 87,5 so 90 for simplicity <= we can get rid of this one or say AW is 50 and BW is 80 or something...
LW = 125
MW = 200
CW = 300 <= we can get rid of this one cuz it's not as necessary with weights being divided by two
HW = 400
SHW = 600
??? = 800
??? = 1200
UHW = 2500
GHW = 5000

But I believe 2500 and 5000 kg are a bit useless in ironforge, so I moved UHW at 800 and GHW at 1200, even if it doesn't keep the proportions.

UOW is a retard tier name. Ogreweight is a Playzooki tier name. Titanweight isn't bad, but it should really be higher than UHW.

what ideas I have for the new names :

Ironforge Heavyweight (IHW)
Ironforge Superheavyweight (ISHW)

or

Megaheavyweight (MHW)
Kiloheavyweight... no that's a silly one.

Overheavyweight (OHW) for 800 kg ?

Or simply call it 800 kg Ironforge and 1200 kg Ironforge. (800 IF or 1200 IF).

Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: cephalopod on August 09, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
i'm just saying if ironforge is half stock (which is the word of 123) then

AW = 72,5 so 75 for simplicity
BW = 87,5 so 90 for simplicity <= we can get rid of this one or say AW is 50 and BW is 80 or something...

These have already been defined by 123 as 70kg and 90kg in the opening screen/credits so I'd say they stay where they are to avoid confusion.


In my opinion we don't need the extra 2 weightclasses, we have enough as it is that will hardly ever get built (as I said last time).

AW 70, BW 90, LW 125, MW 200, HW 400, SHW 600, UHW 800, GHW 1200. Or that's what I think. I don't think we should add more, just change definitions if needed.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Naryar on August 09, 2015, 12:31:39 PM
AW 70, BW 90, LW 125, MW 200, HW 400, SHW 600, UHW 800, GHW 1200. Or that's what I think. I don't think we should add more, just change definitions if needed.

yeah I think this is the most satisfactory resolution
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on August 09, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
Honestly I doubt anything over 800 would be competitive in Ironforge because of Havok. It's bad enough at HW tier. And UHW battle would probably crash quite often.
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 15, 2015, 09:18:41 AM
GUYS I JUST THOUGHT OF SOME NEW WEIGHT CLASSES WE SHOULD HAVE
Memeweight :69kg
Devilweight:666kg
1337w319ht:1337kgs
UBERMEMEWEIGHT:>9000kgs
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Thrackerzod on October 15, 2015, 09:22:43 AM
You forgot dankweight: 420kg
Title: Re: Ironforge UHW Weight Limit: 800kg or 2500kg?
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 15, 2015, 10:07:19 AM
You forgot dankweight: 420kg
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