Idea - 'The Chassis Market'

[TeamXtreemer]

Sounds cheesy, 'Yuh. But it's an idea I've been thinking of for a while, maybe we could have a thread dedicated to chassis for ceritan types of bots.

We could have ones with batteries/extenders pre-fitted or a blank canvas.
They could be in different categories (AW,BW,LW,MW... etc. But also maybe Novelty? Art?).

E.G.
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AW Chassis by *name*
Info:
*Bot type (VS,HS,Flipper)*;
*Weight*;
*Comments (Eg - This chassis is airtight.... blah...*;
*Features*;
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*Image*
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*DL Link*

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Now, I know what you're thinking ''T.X, you're just lazy and don't want to make chassis!''
Well, that may be true, I'm not wonderful at chassis-ing, but maybe this could be used for tournaments? Showcases? It could be like the BotExchange! (Obviously just a thread)
There may be a group in the groups section (it's not used that much, needs to be used really). called Chassis Moderators? They could be able to edit the first page of the thread to add new chassis, or it could just be like a showcase.
(It would more than likely be in the showcases section).

If you guys are interested, PM me or something, I'll be happy to set it up.

-TX.

[Badnik96]

Someone tried this years ago (IIRC). It didn't work.

[TeamXtreemer]

Someone tried this years ago (IIRC). It didn't work.

Well, it might be worth another try?
If we get enough people behind it, who knows.

[smashysmashy]

I like the idea of this.

[madman3]

Some obvious uses is for HS, but I don't entirely support its use for very specific bot types. There should rather be certain platforms, such as one for pokers and rammers, one for FS and trappers, one for general gutrippers like popups and drums, along those lines.

[HurricaneAndrew]

Decent idea, but likely to be shot down.

[Naryar]

And then newbs and n00bs will stop building chassis, and start relying on better builder's chassis, therefore taking some of the skill out of building.

Newbs must learn how to trim well a chassis. Not rely on other's chassis for help.

Building skill level has already degraded enough. Don't pull it farther down, please.

You have all right to make a good and various chassis database for your use, and it's actually a good, time-saving idea - I tried to do that way back but didn't have the will to do it - but don't share it with the whole community then.

Also this doesn't belong in chatterbox. Moving it to a more suitable forum.

[NFX]

I can see how you would see the upside for it, but I'm in agreement with Naryar here. It does sap a lot of the skill out of building a good chassis, and there are a lot of specialised chassis' out there, I feel, which would only work for one specific bot, such as Clickbeetle's Thunder Cloud. I know it's old, but it proves my point. So nice idea in theory, but in practice, I don't think so.

[That Robot is a Spy!]

This is an excellent idea for newer users, but for veterans, they'd be better off making a new chassis.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

Here you go:

Now go have fun.

[smashysmashy]

Here you go:

Now go have fun.

Very successful post much? xD

[madman3]

This is an excellent idea for newer users, but for veterans, they'd be better off making a new chassis.

I think the inverse; a veteran generally can make a good chassis but may simply not be bothered to build one, while a newbie needs the experience.

[Naryar]

Actually I have a better idea.

You called your thing a MARKET, right ? A market isn't a charity. A market is somewhere where you exchange items, not give them to other people for free. What about something on exchanging chassis ? One for one, so it's fair and it doesn't makes the market users less skilled.

This is an excellent idea for newer users, but for veterans, they'd be better off making a new chassis.

I think the inverse; a veteran generally can make a good chassis but may simply not be bothered to build one, while a newbie needs the experience.

Agree with madman.

[RpJk]

I agree with Naryar and NFX here but with a bit of a different approach.

Using other peoples chassis also increases chances of cloning and it takes away learning when it comes to that area.
About a 1/3 of very good building in Both Stock and DSL is with chassis building and building a tight chassis for different bot types is a great skill in the game and that is cheap.

But it could only be for people who are struggling with those caster V wedges or with a 36 HS chassis.

Also chassis moderators? What next? wedge moderators or component moderators?

Overall looks alright but its not the first time its done. Theres a pack in the RA2 Dowloads called the JX Starter Pack which is that idea.

Link: https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/AI_Packs/Others/JX_ra2_starter_pack.zip

[madman3]

Actually I have a better idea.

You called your thing a MARKET, right ? A market isn't a charity. A market is somewhere where you exchange items, not give them to other people for free. What about something on exchanging chassis ? One for one, so it's fair and it doesn't makes the market users less skilled.

This is an excellent idea for newer users, but for veterans, they'd be better off making a new chassis.

I think the inverse; a veteran generally can make a good chassis but may simply not be bothered to build one, while a newbie needs the experience.

Agree with madman.

As to the former, I can see problems unless we establish certain members as trustworthy sources; a newbie could trade a pretty decent chassis to another and get a half assed one in return. In addition I can see a problem with this as it almost entirely effects the veterans who do chassis swapping to experiment with design, while I can't see a big use by newer users.

As for the latter statement, yays.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

If anyone needs a Trov glitch chassis done, I can help.

[RpJk]

If anyone needs a Trov glitch chassis done, I can help.

That would be useful.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

If anyone needs a Trov glitch chassis done, I can help.

That would be useful.

You'd have to specify what shape.

[martymidget]

I think its a fair idea, but the DSL bit would generally be what S_M posted- there a probably hundreds of different bots with that very chassis. Most non-standard bots have a custom chassis made by the builder anyways.

Giving out a pre-made chassis for a 36hs or Psyc Popup would also take out 1/2 of the building skill in stock.

[Trovaner]

If you're too lazy to make a new chassis, use an old one. Why would you want to download somebody else's when quality and usefulness are less of a for sure thing. Most chassis are roughly the same shape anyway (box with a battery and some sort of attachment point(s)) so reusing a well made one would at least guarantee that the quality is up to snuff. Also giving credit to somebody for a generic chassis seems silly to me.

IMO, making a chassis market would only make bots seem more generic than they already are (the effect would be similar to what happened after Ian released his most efficient AW chassis). The most original bots start out from an original chassis. Though it hardly looks original, BlackVein uses a chassis design that takes advantage of quite a few little things that wouldn't be possible on a generic chassis.

Having an airtight chassis isn't always a good thing though. Having more surface area usually results in more HP. To be efficient, you would need to remake the chassis again after assembling the entire bot (or do some preliminary math and adjustments to the chassis). Unfortunately, if you're too lazy to make your own chassis then you're probably too lazy to do the math. So the efficiency of a generic chassis wouldn't change.