Hypothetical disccusion about "cheat" parts.

[J]

You know, I've been thinking...
Lets say we were required to chose some of the more "fair" custom parts that are available, and we decided to say they are fair-game for the stock and DSL modes.
(ASIDE FROM THE AI PARTS, AND OBVIOUS INSTA-KILLING ONES)

So aside from the fact this thread-train is just begging to be de-railed, and a bunch of 'haters' -8ing me for no reason, lets discuss the possibilities of including a few of the 'balanced' cheat-parts.
Oxymoron, I know, but some of the parts from the LutZe-Pack and such aren't really THAT game-breaking when you include in all the factors with it.

Like that Juice Can for example. You get ALMOST unlimited power with it, but as a trade off your robot has to be really bulky(tall, really) and end up having a lot more empty space then it needs.

So as the subject says, lets discuss some of the more balanced custom-parts, and how would they effect things if we REALLY said they were fair-game.

[Sage]

Putting balanced cheat parts into Stock grew into DSL, yo. Anything added to the stock game makes it not stock anymore.

[J]

Putting balanced cheat parts into Stock grew into DSL, yo.

Well... Yea.
But DSL tends to force the 'realistic' rule apon things.
(Which probobly is the reason why I prefer stock)

Anything added to the stock game makes it not stock anymore.

Cheatbot2 somewhat disagrees with you.
But I do see what your getting at.

....Then again, this is Game Tech Mods.

[Sage]

Actually, cheatbot2 was originally in the game!

[R0B0SH4RK]

I think part of the reason why we keep custom components (I won't call them "cheat" parts) out of Stock is because the very purpose of playing Stock is to only use the stuff that the good people at Infogrames hurried out the door crafted for us. We call it "Stock" for a reason, being that we only use the tools that it gives us, even if they are hidden. Bringing in custom components just defeats the purpose.
 
I have nothing against using custom components, until you start to use them on bots intended for serious combat. At that point, it's all too easy to turn your rickety SFTW into something capable of beating most Starcore heavies. They give no indication of building ability and they only serve to belittle the skills of the people who actually have talent. They're steroids.
 
But, if you want, use them. If you put your mind to it, you can craft some pretty awesome stuff. Just remember that: a) you're no longer building in Stock, and b) you can't expect anyone to take bots that use them seriously.
 
 
 
TL;DR: The definition of Stock is no custom parts, therefore we can't use them in Stock because, by definition, it is impossible for Stock to exist with custom parts.

[freeziez]

I think part of the reason why we keep custom components (I won't call them "cheat" parts) out of Stock is because the very purpose of playing Stock is to only use the stuff that the good people at Infogrames hurried out the door crafted for us. We call it "Stock" for a reason, being that we only use the tools that it gives us, even if they are hidden. Bringing in custom components just defeats the purpose.
 
I have nothing against using custom components, until you start to use them on bots intended for serious combat. At that point, it's all too easy to turn your rickety SFTW into something capable of beating most Starcore heavies. They give no indication of building ability and they only serve to belittle the skills of the people who actually have talent. They're steroids.
 
But, if you want, use them. If you put your mind to it, you can craft some pretty awesome stuff. Just remember that: a) you're no longer building in Stock, and b) you can't expect anyone to take bots that use them seriously.
 
 
 
TL;DR: The definition of Stock is no custom parts, therefore we can't use them in Stock because, by definition, it is impossible for Stock to exist with custom parts.

Rather long QFT

[J]

hurried out the door

Despite the fact it was crossed out, its so true.
This game ended up exactly like the 1st one.

[Resetti's Replicas]

Make a tournament and allow the custom components that you think are balanced.  That's the quickest way I can think of to test your theory.