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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: Fracture on June 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
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10/06/2017: Many of the links are now covered by the tutorial index and have been removed. Added a few things
I noticed both first and second-hand that quite a few pages on GTM get posted a lot in showcases or are important as reference, but are tricky to navigate to normally. This is a nice compilation of all those links in one place.
If you are new to the site, I highly recommend checking out the Tutorials and Tips (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17300.0) index first.
Reference and Tutorials
Mythbusters: RA2 Edition (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=1215.0) by Clickbeetle
Here, Clickbeetle performs tests for RA2 myths such as bigger chassis having more HP than smaller ones.
Component HPs and Fractures (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,7130.msg367557.html#msg377091) by Trovaner
Stats showing how much damage components can take before breaking off, if not attached directly to the chassis.
RA2 Tutorials (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Tutorials) on RA2Wiki
A few tutorials hosted on our wiki, but they are a bit outdated so try using them alongside other references.
Bot Types (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Category:Robot_Types) on RA2Wiki
Nice list of the typical bot types seen across all mods.
RA2 Glitches (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Category:Glitches) on RA2Wiki
Good for reference to some lesser-known glitches such as Servo Boosting.
Quick Guide to AI'ing (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=How_to_AI_your_bot) by Starcore
Shows how to use pre-existing bindings to easily AI your bots.
36HS Example (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26354screenshot_50%20copy.jpg) by Sage
This HW bot type is identified by 36 maces or irons on 4 tribars, 4 HPZ weapon and 2 HPZ drive motors, and 2 black batteries. It is considered as an identifier that a builder is becoming very experienced, not to mention it does very well in battle.
BFEing DSA (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2830.msg83019.html#msg83019) by Clickbeetle
Short tutorial on getting DSA onto a bot that already has a different armour selected, without having to rebuild the bot. As it involves BFE, Notepad++ is needed.
Format of the .bot File (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?page=page2187) by mjpieters
Very detailed outline of what all the lines and values in a .bot file correspond to.
RA2's Python API (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6962.msg363873#msg363873) by Trovaner
List of available .py functions for use in AI tactics, arena implementation, personal testing, etc.
Compact Chaining (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/233182ljjo1v.jpg) by tankcat
Compact Chaining Example 2 (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66078chain.png) by Geice
A method of chaining motors that is more compact while achieving the same effect. The two pictures shown are just examples; any extender setup that gets the axles of the two motors more or less aligned will work. You can use this fact to modify your setup to focus on saving weight, getting more out of the rule of 7, or stability.
Batteryless Spinner Glitch (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,9560.0.html) by FOTEPX
A curious glitch that enables spinning motors to work (albeit with very slow acceleration) without battery power.
Downloads
Full Game Downloads (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;cat=19) on GameTechMods
Includes Stock v1.4, DSL v2.1 and v2.2, Ironforge v1.1, and Robot Wars RA2.
Custom Components Downloads (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;cat=13) on GameTechMods
Custom components including SmartZones and antiballasts.
Component Freedom Mod (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18939) by Serge
Something you can download to remove the limitations of the bot lab, including rule of 7. Be sure to read tournament rules on whether component freedom is allowed before you enter.
AI Essentials (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,11156.0.html) by Clickbeetle
A very helpful compilation of .py files needed for AI'ing bots. Though you may find many of these in AI packs, this has the "official" versions.
AI Repository (https://github.com/apanx/RA2_AI) by apanx
Huge collection of AI files updated from Clickbeetle's release for better flexibility. If you only require a select few and don't want your AI folder clogged up, make sure to read the code/documentation and check that out of the ones you download, their dependent files are downloaded too.
WinRAR Downloads (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm)
7-Zip Downloads (http://www.7-zip.org/download.html)
Applications for opening .rar, .zip, and other compressed files. Can also combine files into archives to be uploaded to GTM.
Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/download)
Source code editor needed for BFE, or bot file editing. However, do not mess with your .bot files unless you know what you're doing, and never use BFE to make unfair modifications to a bot for tournament or challenge use. Some examples of legal use of BFE are changing how shiny the chassis is or getting DSA on a bot as mentioned above.
movepixel (http://www.solidfiles.com/d/a384a6d301/movepixel_beta.rar) by nightcracker, courtesy of Mr. AS
Installation Guide (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6845.15)
Laptop Version (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6845.msg355715#msg355715) by Sage
A great tool that makes stacking and component placement much less of a hassle, letting you move the mouse one pixel at a time.
Baseplate Grid for Blueprint (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/grids.rar) by Noodle, courtesy of SKBT
Replaces the image in the background of the blueprint on the chassis editor with a grid that almost exactly matches the one used for the baseplate. While building your chassis, you can see exactly how big your chassis is going to be in terms of those little squares that appear at the bottom of every chassis. Just remember to use the right resolution.
Bot Height Ruler (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/2642HeightGuide.zip) by Trovaner
A ruler for the chassis height editor.
AI Packs
AI Packs and Patches (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;cat=10) on GameTechMods
Includes Starcore v4, ASAI, NAR AI, 123AI, ReForged, and more.
ReStocked AI v0.1 Beta (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Re-Stocked%20AI%20v0.1%20BETA.rar) by infiniteinertia and co.
Older AI pack featuring challenging rebuilds of the Stock AI by some of the most experienced builders of Stock. Also see Sage's Robot Designs (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=2104.msg510567#msg510567)
infiniteinertia AI v0.1 Beta (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/infiniteinertia%20AI%20v0.1.rar) by infiniteinertia
Updated Bindings for infiniteinertia AI (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar)
Currently only with bots from infiniteinertia, this AI pack is still considered one of the hardest in Stock.
Ultimate Stock AI Pack (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Ultimate%20Stock%20AI.zip) by ianh05
This huge AI pack combines Starcore, infinitenertia, ReStocked, PYS, BBEANS, and Stock Mini's AW AI to make over 150 teams. Now you can fight bots from any pack without having to close the game!
Showcases
These are the showcases by some of the most advanced builders in Stock and DSL, provided to you to serve as inspiration for your own bots, or simply just for displaying the potential of RA2. Be sure to check them out and see some awesome designs! It's perfectly fine to clone some of these bots for you to benefit as a builder, but if you showcase any of them, be sure to give credit to the original builder.
Stock
Beetle Bros. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2bots.htm)
Clickbeetle (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,261.0.html)
Scrap Daddy (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,693.0.html)
Sage (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,755.0.html)
pyscolone (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,777.0.html)
R0B0SH4RK (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,798.0.html)
Pwnator (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1764.0.html)
NFX (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2322.0.html) (may require a bit of browsing since most of the earlier images are 404'd)
Virus Bomb (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2838.0.html)
Geice (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6911.0.html)
DSL
Pressure (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,325.0.html)
Clickbeetle (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,361.0.html)
MikeNCR (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,364.0.html)
Naryar (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,702.0.html)
Urjak (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,925.0.html)
Scrap Daddy (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1024.0.html)
123savethewhales (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2349.0.html)
Virus Bomb (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2676.0.html)
Squirrel_Monkey (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,3040.0.html)
SKBT (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,3239.0.html)
NFX (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,3750.0.html)
ty4er (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5303.0.html)
Ironforge
Reier (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17882)
Craaig (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16522)
Badger (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18417)
090901 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=14940)
RedAce (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16490)
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So no mention of NAR AI, yet FOTEPX's Batteryless Spinner Glitch is here ?
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^this
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So no mention of NAR AI, yet FOTEPX's Batteryless Spinner Glitch is here ?
That threw me a little bit. Nar AI is the pinnacle of DSL building, and the Batteryless Spinner glitch is, it needs to be said, pretty much useless. It seems to be a list of useful links mostly related to Stock, though, with the 36HS link and Restocked and INF AI, that might be the reason Nar AI isn't in there.
This will certainly save time, though, we just need to make sure the threads don't get locked or deleted in some way.
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This looks very helpful, will probably help a lot of people. :)
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Maybe we should divide that thread into Stock and DSL parts.
Besides NAR AI is not exactly the pinnacle of DSL building, considering the amount of outdated or just plain average bots in there. I'm pretty sure 123AI takes the cake. It's just like Starcore AI and Inf AI.
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lol I don't build DSL. That's why I asked for suggestions. If you do have any, a link would be nice; I have no idea where to find the latest Nar/123 AI.
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dsl (http://raw.gametechmods.com/Shhhh/DSL21.rar)
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Awesome idea *stickies*
Ill re-upload a bunch of my stuff soon that went down with my website and you can add it to the list..
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Thanks, Joe!
Ill re-upload a bunch of my stuff soon that went down with my website and you can add it to the list..
Cool. :O
Is there a page somewhere that lists all the HPs of the Stock components? I remember Trovaner posting the stats in a topic somewhere and then Sage getting confused that Snowplows only had 200 HP or something.
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Added Trov's Bot Height Ruler and philetbabe's (?) AI Chart and organized the links.
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Component Stats: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,7130.msg367557.html#msg377091 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,7130.msg367557.html#msg377091)
Sage's video tuts: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4512.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4512.0.html)
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Component Stats: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,7130.msg367557.html#msg377091 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,7130.msg367557.html#msg377091)
Ahh I was hoping there was an actual page for that somewhere. :P
And I'm avoiding any links to topics from the Tutorials and Tips section since they're, you know, already in Tutorials and Tips; which is basically this thread as a sub-forum.
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https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/527Bindings.rar)
^inf ai fix
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Daringly delicious descriptions added! Also added NAR AI and compact chaining. I need help with a description for NAR AI though...and pretty much DSL stuff in general. :P
Any opinions on the showcases idea?
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Any opinions on the showcases idea?
mine https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6848.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6848.0.html)
pwn, click, scrap, sage
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1764.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,1764.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,261.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,261.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,693.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,693.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,755.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,755.0.html)
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Will use those if the idea takes off; I was asking more about if anyone thinks it would be a good idea in the first place.
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Daringly delicious descriptions added! Also added NAR AI and compact chaining. I need help with a description for NAR AI though...and pretty much DSL stuff in general. :P
Play DSL.
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Daringly delicious descriptions added! Also added NAR AI and compact chaining. I need help with a description for NAR AI though...and pretty much DSL stuff in general. :P
Play DSL.
care to expand upon that post ?
and im not sure if theres any objections on giving good showcases to look though, it seems like a good idea
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Noodle's blueprint grid to baseplate grid:
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4873.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4873.0.html)
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Noodle's thingy and Ultimate Stock AI added. Also added Stock showcases, but I'm still desperate for some DSL stuff!
Would you guys say that the showcases of the top-voted DSL builders as shown here (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,9233.0.html) are good to link to?
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I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
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Would you guys say that the showcases of the top-voted DSL builders as shown here (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,9233.0.html) are good to link to?
I think we need to do a new RANKS soon.
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Would you guys say that the showcases of the top-voted DSL builders as shown here (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,9233.0.html) are good to link to?
I think we need to do a new RANKS soon.
Go for it!
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How do you exit movepixel when not playing RA2 without logging off?
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How do you exit movepixel when not playing RA2 without logging off?
right click on ahk icon in taskbar ---> suspend script EDIT *hotkeys
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Ahk?
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Ahk?
autohotkey, you know that thing you had to download in order for the script to work in the first place ?
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DSL Showcases added.
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i think that pyscolone's and inf's showcases should be added to the stock section. their bots maybe old but they're still good examples of top level building.
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I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
MikeNCR's would be a good one too.
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i think that pyscolone's and inf's showcases should be added to the stock section. their bots maybe old but they're still good examples of top level building.
inf's old showcase is just full of stuff from his AI pack, but I will add pyscolone's.
I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
MikeNCR's would be a good one too.
Okay, thanks.
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i think that pyscolone's and inf's showcases should be added to the stock section. their bots maybe old but they're still good examples of top level building.
inf's old showcase is just full of stuff from his AI pack, but I will add pyscolone's.
I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
MikeNCR's would be a good one too.
Okay, thanks.
abour Psyc's showcase: i don't think so. That showcase is full of frozen frogs, which made me unable to see his bots.
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i think that pyscolone's and inf's showcases should be added to the stock section. their bots maybe old but they're still good examples of top level building.
inf's old showcase is just full of stuff from his AI pack, but I will add pyscolone's.
I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
MikeNCR's would be a good one too.
Okay, thanks.
abour Psyc's showcase: i don't think so. That showcase is full of frozen frogs, which made me unable to see his bots.
What the heck are you on about?
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i think that pyscolone's and inf's showcases should be added to the stock section. their bots maybe old but they're still good examples of top level building.
inf's old showcase is just full of stuff from his AI pack, but I will add pyscolone's.
I'd agree with that, I would chuck Virus Bomb's, Pressure's, Ty4er's and SKBT's showcases in aswell.
MikeNCR's would be a good one too.
Okay, thanks.
abour Psyc's showcase: i don't think so. That showcase is full of frozen frogs, which made me unable to see his bots.
What the heck are you on about?
an image of a frozen frog is the 404 image for imageshack, which pys uses to host his bot pics
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Oh, well they look OK to me, but I only checked a few pages.
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Added Clickbeetle's tutorial to getting DSA on a bot using BFE and a link to Notepad++ for BFE itself. The former kinda makes public how you can get unfairly strong and/or light armour on your bot, but there haven't been any suspicions of foul play in the Tournaments section so far, so hopefully it won't be a problem now. I know I shouldn't really advertise BFE, but I still think there are some useful things that are still legal and only achievable with BFE. If controversy arises surrounding either of these issues, I can delete their links as well as all posts in this topic pertaining to them.
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Any chance of putting the randomiser in there?
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Sure. If someone wants to find Sys's old make a bot using a die thread I'll add that as well.
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its on the first page https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2024.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2024.0.html)
edit: OH btw can you replace sages ra2 1.4 link with mine (in my sig) cuz his 404d, unless acams already uploaded stock and dsl onto the site already (which i doubt)
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Fixed the DSL link and added Click's AI Essentials and 123AI.
Would still be nice to get some descriptions for NAR AI and 123AI. Again, I don't play DSL and I don't know what to say.
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You might wanna add anti-ballasts to the list. I need a SHW one for my entry to BB6, and maybe a couple others.
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You might wanna add anti-ballasts to the list. I need a SHW one for my entry to BB6, and maybe a couple others.
Custom Components Download Page (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/page,page3548.html) on GameTechMods
Custom components including SmartZones, which are essential for AI'ing bots that fire only when an enemy is in range, like popups and hammers.
But thanks, I'll add antiballasts to the description there.
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The download links make you my hero!
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Would it not be good putting a link go whams robot wars beta download? And give a link to HBs official robot wars mod?
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Frankly Ironforge needs to be in here more urgently than them (considering one of them isn't out yet).
Also adding the beginner's guide to BFE might be useful.
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like trov said when this was first posted, there should a link to my video tutorials.
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If people can post links here that should be added, I'll edit them in for completeness.
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Amazing list, thanks!
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Could the BTTB AI links in OP be replaced with a single link to this:
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=243 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=243)
Both of those packs have been superceded by the new BTTB Stock AI.
Thanks :)
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I'll update the entire post at some point if there's no objections, there's a fair amount missing now.
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Is this still helpful for new people? Regardless, I updated the OP with what I could; notes are in the post.
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Just so you know, Reforged is an ironforge AI pack, not stock
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Just so you know, Reforged is an ironforge AI pack, not stock
Wow I'm like the suburban father who can't keep up with the times. So those bots RedAce just showcased were for...the very dead ReStocked?
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looks good
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please try not to bump if it adds nothing relevant to the thread
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Thanks to the new Downloads pages and Craaig's tutorial index, I can remove a lot of stuff already covered in his post, leaving this to serve as a list of the less accessible links instead of having to be three things at once. It now has component freedom and apanx's AI repository.
I can add some model Ironforge showcases to the list at the bottom if anyone has suggestions (otherwise I'll just dig up the ranks from the GTM Awards). Maybe they would be better served in their own topic at this point?
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pin this sucka