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Robot Arena => Discussion => Topic started by: Slipster on January 15, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
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Hi all, i'm looking for any tips and or advice on placing components with spot on accuracy. This being very important when placing drive motors and or duel weps.
At the moment i use the measure component. is this the best way or is it down to eye jujment?.
what do you use?
Thanks, Slip
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The EYE.
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the eye mostly. but what helps is to zoom in while in the chassis tab then switch back to the components tab, and without touching the black square, go pick out your component. once you click attach, you can then go in the black square without it zooming out.
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I just alighn the motor with the x axis and then move over as much as possible
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Thankyou for the advise.
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I use the eye.
I cant really use the ruler tool.
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The ruler is useful if your chassis is a weird shape and the grid boxes don't line up with the edges. But in most cases the grid is accurate enough. It's easiest to use from a complete top-down perspective.
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Top Down works best for me...
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but how do you allign the ruler in the start? lol
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the eye mostly. but what helps is to zoom in while in the chassis tab then switch back to the components tab, and without touching the black square, go pick out your component. once you click attach, you can then go in the black square without it zooming out.
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Best tip yet!! works a treat :bigsmile:
Thank you.
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but how do you allign the ruler in the start? lol
Ive edited the "measure" tool and made it a little more accurate and clear,
ORIGINAL
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/the_slipster/measureorig.jpg)
EDITED
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/the_slipster/measure.jpg)
I don't find this perfect, however it does help to gain accuracy.
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Send it to click, it might be good for DSL 3.
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Very nice.
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It's way better than the original - and yeah, i agree with S32.
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Send it to click, it might be good for DSL 3.
Would edit it to uber prefection if that was asked. It would be an Honor.
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Another addition to accuracy. (if using stock)
Ive added a line pointed out by the red arrow. moving the slider gives you the minimum height for a z-tek motor :)
Measure line for chassis fitting a Z-tek
Just move the slider to that line and you have the perfect height!
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/the_slipster/line.jpg)
This is just beta. More time i could add more precise lines with Text!
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Sweet.
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I don't know why nobody has done this before. It's brilliant.
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DO WANT!
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Wow, how come is it that people never think of these simple things.
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I think slipster should get his own wikipage...
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Nice work. The ruler skin looks better with the increased contrast, but it could still be more accurate. Now that I think about it, a completely new skin would probably be best. It could also benefit from higher resolution.
Idea: make a ruler alongside the chassis height slider with 5-click increments. (The minimum Z-tek height is 5 clicks above the bottom.) That would help with other precise height adjustments too... like sometimes, I have to make a chassis with 12 click height or something, and it's inconvenient to count that high every time I make a shape adjustment.
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The ruler Component should be easy to malupulate and improve. I will work on a complete new skin when i get time.
Great idea about the chassis height slider.
However, im not sure how to go about adding a static graphic to the Slider area.( only show when in phase 2 of chassis build) The backdrop is used over a few screens therefor it would show the ruler in unwanted screens (hope that makes sense).
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Another addition to accuracy. (if using stock)
Ive added a line pointed out by the red arrow. moving the slider gives you the minimum height for a z-tek motor :)
Measure line for chassis fitting a Z-tek
Just move the slider to that line and you have the perfect height!
This is just beta. More time i could add more precise lines with Text!
I made one of those for Starcore V4 (after alpha2 was sent out) that had all the component heights (even the heights below zero) labeled in the Help menu and all the heights from 0 to 105 (counted up by fives) next to the slider.
Edit: I forgot to mention that it only appeared next to the height slider (not in any other screens because I added a graphic to the .gib). I could probably upload it if any of you want it, tomorrow.
I also tried making the ruler more accurate but gave up because I couldn't get it to match the lengths of extenders (a 20cm extender should equal 20cm). Your ruler looks better than my attempts anyways.
I also made a new disk skin for determining the speed of a motor but I'm still not satisfied with it.
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I had a version with the same markings for heights,.. though not as intricate. Saves mucho time.
Just a thought: I also made a couple preset patterns on the 'blueprint' so that I could easily tweak out a chassis that would barely fit a Black or pink battery (or 2), or a black and 2 HP z-teks,... De-select the "Align to grid" option. I had about 5 chassis designs outlined on the blueprint behind, each in a different color.
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I also made a couple preset patterns on the 'blueprint' so that I could easily tweak out a chassis that would barely fit a Black or pink battery (or 2), or a black and 2 HP z-teks,... De-select the "Align to grid" option. I had about 5 chassis designs outlined on the blueprint behind, each in a different color.
Another great idea! This thread is like a fountain of ingenuity!
Better yet: Have several common components outlined on the grid (Z-tek, battery, baseplate anchor) so you know exactly how big they are in relation to the grid and can easily shape an efficient chassis. I can never remember exactly how wide Supervolts are. Something like that would be immensely helpful.
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ok ive gone a little crazy here....lol
this is a pixel correct ruler using Colour insted of numbers.
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/the_slipster/Crazyruler.jpg)
Using this type of ruler can also do this lol..
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/the_slipster/Crazyruler2.jpg)
hehehehehe ccrrrAZY!!! but fkn accurate
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It doesn't quite line up with the grid. It doesn't have to; I only say this because it looks like it's supposed to line up with the grid.
But the colorful skin is a lot clearer and a lot easier to measure. I thought of making it high-resolution with smaller numbers, but I think the colors work even better.
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Honestly, it kills my eyes.