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Title: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on April 30, 2015, 05:50:45 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/d3b5917bff3758ed0f24b8a821dc7d02.png)

The time has come for an awesome Robot Wars RA2 Mod competition!

What's the prize, I hear you cry? Your design, made as realistically as possible, implemented into the mod. Forever, and for everyone.

Sound like a good prize? Well. Don't let me put you off, but the rules of entry are VERY tough... he lied through his teeth.
All you have to do is send your robot idea, along with a quick sketch, your name and whether it's a feather- or heavyweight, to RobotWarsRA2@outlook.com by July 3rd. That's it.
Each person can send 1 FW and 1 HW design only.
'A quick sketch' can be a picture of ANYTHING - RA2 built, hand drawn, MS Paint, Photoshop, Sketchup/CAD, handmade model, whatever. We're not marking on the quality of sketches, but the originality of ideas.
Please send each entry in a different picture and write the descriptions/names in the email.

We'll then pick our favourite and announce it on this thread on July 6th. There will be 2 heavyweight winners and 1 featherweight winner.
We will also pick an ultimate winner from these 3 to win a 3D printed model of their entry and a Robot Wars keyring!
Good luck!


Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: RedAce on April 30, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
Are we allowed to send in multiple bots for one weight class at all? The rule: "Each person can send 1 FW and 1 HW design." doesn't really mean we are allowed to send only one idea each from how it's written. I got two great bot ideas in my mind right now for one weight class and It's tough to choose one or the other right now.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on April 30, 2015, 07:17:46 PM
Time to boot up Rhino and see what I can come up with.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Kungfooey242 on April 30, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
So the bots that win will be in the new mod kinda like the AI bots in the current versions, right?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 01, 2015, 03:17:23 AM
Quote from: RedAce on April 30, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
Are we allowed to send in multiple bots for one weight class at all? The rule: "Each person can send 1 FW and 1 HW design." doesn't really mean we are allowed to send only one idea each from how it's written. I got two great bot ideas in my mind right now for one weight class and It's tough to choose one or the other right now.

You can only send 1 feather and 1 heavy. Maybe I should've added the word only but I thought it was clear :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Naryar on May 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
at first I thought it was a RA2 design challenge and i was :D

then I saw Robot Wars and i thought "oh"

then I saw it's a CAD.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 01, 2015, 04:54:53 AM
It doesn't have to be cad, as long as it's a representation of your ideas - the key part of the entry is the description bit. So entries could be made in ra2 as representations of the description. They can also be hand drawn or whatever. As the rules say, there won't be bonus points for fancy cads above hand drawn sketches.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 01, 2015, 06:58:19 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
There is a NEW PRIZE added for the 1 absolute best entry, check it out!
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Mecha on May 01, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Naryar on May 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
at first I thought it was a RA2 design challenge and i was :D
lol that's what i thought too
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 01, 2015, 11:02:54 AM
As I said, it can be!
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Jarvis_Rapture on May 01, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
A submitted design can be:
An RA2 bot
A CAD model
A hand drawn sketch
A cardboard model
A tin can with wheels

It doesn't matter what it is, we're just after something community made :)

EDIT: unless it's a ripoff
don't do that pls
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Impossible343 on May 01, 2015, 11:21:50 AM
Are there any rules on realism?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: FOTEPX on May 01, 2015, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: Impossible343 on May 01, 2015, 11:21:50 AM
Are there any rules on realism?

...Wow, really?

It's going in an IRL realistic mod pack, designed to be as close to reality as poss-

OF COURSE THERE'S RULES ON REALISM!
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on May 01, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
Can I make it out of cardboard and post it to one of you?  I'm a bit
nervous already afte seeing those two above, they're prettygood.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Bubbleman on May 01, 2015, 04:20:14 PM
Hmm, I wonder if I should send in pics of one or two of my 500g Lego robots...
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 01, 2015, 05:39:20 PM
Quality doesn't matter, honestly. It's the ideas behind the drawings we're  looking at :)

Also yes rules on realism, fotepx summed it up. They have to look real.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: 090901 on May 01, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on May 01, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
nervous already afte seeing those two above, they're prettygood.
Yeah that's why I don't like the idea of having an entry gallery until after the time period of sending stuff is over, because when you get great stuff like those CAD designs right away it can be discouraging to some people.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Philippa on May 01, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: 090901 on May 01, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on May 01, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
nervous already afte seeing those two above, they're prettygood.
Yeah that's why I don't like the idea of having an entry gallery until after the time period of sending stuff is over, because when you get great stuff like NFX's CAD designs right away it can be discouraging to some people.
I agree with this. If you don't have the gallery then you won't have any complaints over "Hey, that was my idea." either.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: TheUnknownRobotics on May 01, 2015, 06:04:34 PM
Going to enter this for sure. Seems cool, guys!
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: RedAce on May 01, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: Kurt Wylde on May 01, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: 090901 on May 01, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on May 01, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
nervous already aftre seeing those two above, they're pretty good.
Yeah that's why I don't like the idea of having an entry gallery until after the time period of sending stuff is over, because when you get great stuff like NFX's CAD designs right away it can be discouraging to some people.
I agree with this. If you don't have the gallery then you won't have any complaints over "Hey, that was my idea." either.
Ditto. You don't see BOTM showing the entries that have entered once they've been submitted. It just makes it harder for someone to make something better after what they just saw.

Also, I'm surprised that NFX sent his entries first. What do you think this means? Hmm...
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on May 01, 2015, 10:39:15 PM
It means that Ive let everyone on ARC know this exists :3
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 02, 2015, 05:16:48 AM
The idea of the gallery was to spark discussion and inspiration, after all, we've made a big point of saying were not marking on the picture we're sent - that's just a representation of your ideas. Either way, point taken, and it's been removed.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Kungfooey242 on May 02, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Can i make a design with Autodesk Inventor??
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: 090901 on May 02, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Kungfooey242 on May 02, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Can i make a design with Autodesk Inventor??

Quote
'A quick sketch' can be ANYTHING - RA2 built, hand drawn, MS Paint, Photoshop, Sketchup/CAD, handmade model, whatever.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Kungfooey242 on May 03, 2015, 02:58:48 AM
Quote from: 090901 on May 02, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Kungfooey242 on May 02, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Can i make a design with Autodesk Inventor??

Quote
'A quick sketch' can be ANYTHING - RA2 built, hand drawn, MS Paint, Photoshop, Sketchup/CAD, handmade model, whatever.

I know but im not sure if craaig has inventor or nah.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on May 03, 2015, 04:54:18 AM
Send a picture of your model, because that's all I'm gonna do if you send me an inventor file so I can add it to the databank.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Knight on June 27, 2015, 05:11:05 AM
Just letting you guys know, you only have one week left so make sure you've submitted your entry by July 3rd

Remember:
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on July 03, 2015, 04:03:53 AM
How long do we have left to send designs?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 03, 2015, 04:20:51 AM
You have until I have time to check the mailbox this evening, could be anything as little as 8-10 hours. You have quite literally had months to enter :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Philippa on July 03, 2015, 05:44:27 PM
The gallery should be pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 07:11:44 PM
Finalist Gallery
While voting commences on which of these entries will make it, here's the few that made it through the rigorous qualifying. We ask for anyone who sees their designs here not to identify themselves.
Remember, 1 FW and 2 HWs will win! :)

Featherweights
Orchid Mantis
(https://i.gyazo.com/af719c1d5d086484b53c64203dae05c6.png)
Random Impact Generator
(https://i.gyazo.com/868ebf00a12c0b17f5a60583a895018d.png)

Heavyweights
Optera
(https://i.gyazo.com/7463059b0b47fc4d8c3ddf74337156c9.png)
Lucid Dream
(https://i.gyazo.com/1ce92714fbff25ffd92bb7b0821473f4.png)
Wood Chipper
(https://i.gyazo.com/d19c9b716e257b346a7742f214037c26.png)
Infection
(https://i.gyazo.com/85f81a967738a8284a421b0ddebb49df.png)
LZRD
(https://i.gyazo.com/beccedb2b91a1bd2d338cb6d5db2a2b8.png)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: MassimoV on July 05, 2015, 07:20:57 PM
So do we put our votes here or pm them?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 07:23:42 PM
The mod team vote on them in secrecy. Nobody aside from myself knows who built what so it keeps it fair.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: MassimoV on July 05, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
Oh alright. Will we see the whole gallery and builders once it's over?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
We don't plan to create a gallery but I'd really like to thank everyone that put time and effort into their designs, especially those who went out of their way to create a whole new design for us, be it a hand drawing, RA2 creation or CAD. Every single one has been hugely appreciated, we've really enjoyed seeing every single different perspective on the challenge and I'm really happy we managed to get so many awesome entries <3
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: RedAce on July 05, 2015, 07:48:23 PM
I thought there would be more. I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 07:50:37 PM
These are only the ones who made it through a huge amount of narrowing down. There are around 40 different entries, but we had to narrow it down as much as possible before heading to a final vote.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: RedAce on July 05, 2015, 07:57:51 PM
Oh right. That rule. What exactly did the rejected (That's exactly the term to use. Don't lie) entries anyway?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 08:03:44 PM
I'm not quite sure I understand your question?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Natef on July 05, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
I think he means: what was the main reason the other bots were rejected? Too unrealistic? Too close to a real bot?
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 08:15:45 PM
Just to clarify, rejected is the wrong word. Every machine was accepted into the competition, but of course only 1 FW and 2 HW can win.
We looked for many factors. How effective the design would be in real life, how well it would translate to RA2, originality, descriptiveness (of the entry email or the picture itself), and plain coolness.
Some of my favourites didn't get into the finals and that saddens me, but that's how it goes. (Shout outs to the builders of Ram and Slam and Dysector. Awesome ideas guys.)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Merrick on July 05, 2015, 08:18:23 PM
If they were all accepted, and only the mod team is voting on these, is there any reason why all entrants aren't being displayed? I think a lot of people would be interested to see the whole range.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 05, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
We don't wish to post the whole range as we do plan further competitions along these lines and don't want to influence other entries, plus this means people can re-enter (or enter improved versions of) their designs with no consequence. Showing the finalists is a recognition of their awesome designs.
Sorry if this is a decision that some don't agree with but it's what we agreed upon as a team. Once again, I thank all entrants for their huge range of cool designs :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Merrick on July 05, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
That's pretty sound reasoning. You can never please everyone.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: RedAce on July 05, 2015, 08:46:43 PM
It's the internet. We're bound to reach a disagreement. Still, I can see the disappointment from good potential entries who couldn't make the cut. I guess I should stop posting in this thread.

I was just curious by what other entries we would've seen.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: HereticBlue on July 05, 2015, 08:50:50 PM
Long post warning...

Lads and lasses, non of the robots were rejected. It was very tight between those who qualified for the voting table and who didn't, let me explain.

To qualify, those so far successful entries have ticked all these boxes:

[] weapon system originality.
[] technically plausible in their own weight Catagory.
[] visual impression.
[] robot effectiveness.
[] technicality.


The 9 of us have went through each individual robot, (which has taken up a lot of our free time might I add) and discussed whether the robot has ticked each criteria.

Many hours later we ended up with the robots you see above. Over the next few days we'll be ignoring voting for which of those finalist are our favourites and give a vote. Which is kept confidential from eachother. And we get the results in when everyone has voted.

Each person has voted 1 FW and 1 HW, we will be giving 1 FW vote and 2 HW votes each. We're once again expecting it to be tight and hard to determine a winner, judging from the qualifying process!



And lastly we don't want to show all entries incase we hold another competition in the future. There have been quite inspiring designs and we don't want people taking each others ideas for future reference. We want to see the creators of those designs improve on what they have and come back.

I have to say I'm really surprised and greatful for all the entries. I never expected to see so many creative designs and for it to be so hard to decide on the qualifiers. I think I speak for all of us here, that were damn impressed and we'd love to see more in the future. Don't give up on it because you've either not qualified or not won, because every single person has known that they have a knack for this sorts thing. Don't give it up, make your ideas a reality!

Throughout this post I think it's decided... This has to happen again some time!
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: yugitom on July 05, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
I'm struggling to think of what Random Impact Generator actually is in my head. I don't know exactly what the drawer is going for.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on July 05, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
Very wide undercutter type thing. Like Break the Targets but as an undercutter
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: yugitom on July 05, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: Badnik96 on July 05, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
Very wide undercutter type thing. Like Break the Targets but as an undercutter
Ah, I see it now. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: cephalopod on July 06, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
WINNERS

The team have all voted and the decisions are in.

The bots that will make it into the mod are:

If any of the finalists/winners wish to take credit for their designs, now is the opportunity. Congratulations all! :)
Finally, we have decided to open the grand prize vote up to the community! Vote for your favourite finalist entry in the poll above and the winner will receive a 3D print of their entry plus a Robot Wars keyring! Voting is open for 24 hours from now :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Welp

At least LZRD made the finals. Congrats to everyone that got in.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Philippa on July 06, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
I wish my other robot was there, honestly.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on July 07, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
Congratulations to the winners!  I didn't come up with any ideas before the deadline but now that I understand better what you're looking for, I might have to give it a go if you do another.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: Philippa on July 07, 2015, 02:02:26 PM
Next contest should be an arena design challenge.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: helloface on July 07, 2015, 11:57:45 PM
Quote from: Kurt on July 07, 2015, 02:02:26 PM
Next contest should be an arena design challenge.
That seems like a little too much effort.
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: 090901 on July 08, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
Quote from: helloface199 on July 07, 2015, 11:57:45 PM
Quote from: Kurt on July 07, 2015, 02:02:26 PM
Next contest should be an arena design challenge.
That seems like a little too much effort.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13221.0 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13221.0)
Title: Re: Robot Wars RA2 - Bot Design Challenge
Post by: MassimoV on July 08, 2015, 01:04:30 AM
Yeeeeaaaah Lucid Dream bringing it home.
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