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Robot Arena Matches => Contests => Topic started by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 10:53:31 AM

Title: Contributor Contest
Post by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 10:53:31 AM

With the 10 year anniversary just around the corner, I figured that I would provide a little incentive for making it special.

The contest is as follows:

Goal: To inspire more people to get involved and improve RA2's longevity.
Eligibility: Limited to people that post in the discussion thread before Feb 20 (this thread). You must include either a link or description of what you did for Feb 18 in your post (if you did more than one thing, you don't have to post it all at once).
- I will not be eligible for participation because I already have the prize. Everyone else can participate (just remember to post in this thread with the necessary information).
Prize: The top three contributors from the 18th will receive my action cam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yIz0vrf2VqI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yIz0vrf2VqI#ws)
Scoring: The scoring system is designed to give everyone a fair chance at getting into the top three (not just modders)
Score = ((3 x # of high-level projects released) + (2 x # of mid-level projects released) + (1 x # of low-level projects released)) * (1 + % of votes from forum poll)
- High-Level Projects: New arenas, new AI, new AI packs, new GIB work (points awarded for GIBs on a per release basis (not per file))
- Mid-Level Projects: New videos/images of 8 or more bots, new tutorials, new components
- Low-Level Projects: New bots, new people that you invited to the forums and that posted at least once on Feb 18.
All projects must be made/performed by you.
The poll will be started on Feb 20 and last a week (you will be able to vote for up to 3 entries).
The results will be posted soon after.
For clarifications and fairness, I will add edits to this post. Edits will only be made to ensure that people don't manipulate the system and to provide more opportunities for others to do well.

You have roughly 2 weeks to get your acts together.

Feel free to discuss here. I will filter through all the posts on Feb 20 to get a list of entries.

Edit 1: If you work in a team on a high-level project, you both will receive points. However, teaming up on mid- and low- level projects will only count towards one of you (they are easy enough to do alone).
Edit 2: There will be a limit of 5 new bots per member. I don't want to see dumps of people's entire Team folders.
Edit 3: AI packs are now part of the high-level project category. If you have any contributors for your AI pack, please list them in your post so that they can receive a low-level project point.
Edit 4: As a special rule for tournament hosts, you may receive a mid-level point for every 8 different bots shown collectively in tourney videos throughout the day (if you don't have that many bots left, you could do bonus matches with the defeated bots). I don't want to distract hosts from their tournaments unless they really want to do something else.
Edit 5: If you swap out the sound files used by RA2, you will receive an additional 0.0005 points regardless of how many files you change (after the poll). I don't see the point of doing this but I'm not the one doing it so more power to you.
Edit 6: I've added new components to the mid-level projects. I know that the GMF stuff can be challenging for components but Arenas have that plus PY work.

Thank you to everyone that participated. Awards have been sent out.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Conraaa on February 05, 2013, 12:01:25 PM

Count me in. I'm going to try and get Punch Out! UI done, and make a few bots.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 12:39:03 PM

Good to hear. I know that many people have expressed interest in Punch Out! UI so you could potentially do very well.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on February 05, 2013, 01:24:51 PM

Hurricane UI would be cool to finish, but I lost most of it in the crash that made me stop working on it. I may try to stick some things together again though.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Badnik96 on February 05, 2013, 02:39:41 PM

Crap now I have to finish LDAI

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: 090901 on February 05, 2013, 02:42:08 PM

Quote from: Badnik96 on February 05, 2013, 02:39:41 PM

Crap now I have to finish LDAI

If you got top 3 you should just give your prize to MassimoV :dumb)

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Conraaa on February 05, 2013, 02:45:37 PM

Quote from: HurricaneAndrew on February 05, 2013, 01:24:51 PM

Hurricane UI would be cool to finish, but I lost most of it in the crash that made me stop working on it. I may try to stick some things together again though.

I do have to admit, that was one that I was looking forward to.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: martymidget on February 05, 2013, 02:55:27 PM

So there's this tourney I should go and finish....

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on February 05, 2013, 03:43:27 PM

This seems like a sudden and rather short timeframe. I've got college work that'll keep me occupied for way past the deadline, otherwise I'd try and figure something out. What exactly is your "action cam" that's being offered as a prize?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 04:00:24 PM

It is short notice but I didn't think of it until last minute :P. I figure that if you were already planning to do something than you deserve to be at an advantage. I understand that people are busy but you have known about the anniversary for quite some time. I would still encourage everyone to do what they can in the limited time frame even if they don't expect to win (thats why I listed a goal for the contest).

As far as what the action cam is, it is basically an autonomous camera that views all active bots from the side. It will also rotate to the other side if a wall gets in the way so you will almost always have the optimal viewing angle.

I'll add another edit for regulations regarding AI packs and tournaments.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: MassimoV on February 05, 2013, 04:54:56 PM

Ehh, I build, I'll do it.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 06:49:09 PM

I'm relieved to see that people are expressing interest in this.

I would also like to apologize upfront for not being able to include the RA2 wiki in this. I keep running it through my head but there doesn't seem to be a non-biased way of evaluating content.

Does anyone see any additional flaws that I should correct? I want this to be as fair as possible for everyone. However, I don't want to be constantly editing the rules when there is so little time for people to prepare. Thats why I want to get the big stuff out of the way and only edit the rules later when absolutely necessary.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: MassimoV on February 05, 2013, 06:56:09 PM

What about tournaments?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 05, 2013, 07:08:17 PM

Edit 4 talks about tournaments. Do want to know anything else about it?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: RpJk on February 05, 2013, 09:32:12 PM

I'm thinking of doing a RA2 music video if that counts however I've got a major exam next week so don't expect it definitively.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 05, 2013, 11:25:09 PM

Lol tutorials really shouldn't worth 3 points.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 06, 2013, 12:26:39 AM

Point taken. I'll move tutorial down to the mid-level (unless someone has already made one just because it is worth 3).

As far as the music video goes, it is valid for the mid-level as long as it has 8 different bots in it.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Noodle on February 06, 2013, 09:31:25 AM

I might try something. It's more productive than playing minecraft.

Quote from: Gropaga on February 06, 2013, 03:03:06 AM

Thinking of making changed song of RA2.

Hey Trov, can this be worth 0.0005 points?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 06, 2013, 12:41:47 PM

Works for me, lol...

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 06, 2013, 03:47:08 PM

Update: I added the new components to the mid-level projects. Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience caused by my edits.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Naryar on February 07, 2013, 02:45:01 AM

I am quite certain I can release the next Nar ai.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: cephalopod on February 07, 2013, 05:08:23 AM

RIP3 + RIPAI + PokAImon updates incoming. Hopefully. But I'm not all that worried about points.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Naryar on February 07, 2013, 06:38:55 AM

lul i hope i don't procrastinate again

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: G.K. on February 07, 2013, 05:09:44 PM

No way will I have time to do anything, which is a shame.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Philippa on February 08, 2013, 01:44:32 AM

I'd like to enter but my modding skills are limited to basic skinning, and my AI ability doesn't yet exist.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 08, 2013, 08:51:19 AM

There are multiple levels for projects so that people don't have to know how to mod to do well. Things like getting friends to come online, make new bots, and creating images with 5 or more bots are completely do-able projects for people that don't have modding skills. In fact, level three projects are under valued by my point system (the time/point ratio is much higher).

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Sage on February 08, 2013, 12:00:33 PM

Wish I had waited to make my 5+ video tutorials until now! :P

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: 090901 on February 08, 2013, 02:05:56 PM

Quote from: Sage on February 08, 2013, 12:00:33 PM

Wish I had waited to make my 5+ video tutorials until now! :P

Remake them :V

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Sage on February 08, 2013, 08:36:02 PM

Quote from: 090901 on February 08, 2013, 02:05:56 PM

Quote from: Sage on February 08, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
Wish I had waited to make my 5+ video tutorials until now! :P
Remake them :V

hahaah should I?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 12, 2013, 12:07:31 AM

6 more days until the anniversary. Even though I can't participate in this contest, I have quite a bit planned for the occasion.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Venko on February 14, 2013, 04:37:44 PM

Aside from returning to GTM :claping , I'm also contributing :

1. Venko's texture pack
http://www.2shared.com/file/z1e99pX-/Venkos_texture_pack.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/z1e99pX-/Venkos_texture_pack.html)

2. Venko's graphical and bot build enhancement tool
http://www.2shared.com/file/Lc9W5l-9/Venkos_graphical_and_bot_build.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/Lc9W5l-9/Venkos_graphical_and_bot_build.html)

Feel free to add the above 2 in the GTM download section.

3.

Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on February 06, 2013, 01:37:15 PM

yo venko, if youre reading this i plan on releasing all the other pics vids and whatnot you sent to me on the 18th, being ra2's 10th anniversary and all.

Mr. AwesumSauce is agreed the points from the 3 huge rars (3D Studio MAX 5; old pics and clips that some of them may be lost; old zips that some of them may be lost) to go on my account. He will post the links when they are ready.

4. I'm planning to showcase some very new (builded these days) stock cool bots in my showcase soon.

So, Trovy, how much points I get for all this?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 14, 2013, 05:06:44 PM

Unfortunately, I can't accept your entry for the following reasons:
1. Points are only awarded if you release them on the 18th (+/- 24 hours to account for time zones). I would have made an exception if it was just this but there is more...
2. The project must fall into one of the three project levels. Reskins and textures weren't included because they were too easy and couldn't be fairly regulated by special rules (same reason that wiki edits weren't included).
3. You have to make the thing that you submit. The chassis_structure2.gib was modded by me when I created the VGuide (unless you made some other significant modification in the GIB file, I can't count it as something that you modded).

You can still score points for the unshowcased bots but you need to post it when we get closer to the anniversary. I'm sorry that I can't accept anything else but I'm trying to be fair to everyone (especially, non-modders).

Edit: I appreciate the fact that you want to participate and the fact that you bothered to put all this together but I'm not sure what I can do about it.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: MassimoV on February 14, 2013, 05:11:05 PM

For the 5 bot limit, is that stock and DSL combined?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 14, 2013, 05:26:23 PM

Yes, you are limited to 5 bots (regardless of components) for the low-level projects but you can still make an image/video of 8 or more bots after that.

Also, if people are unsure if their entries will be valid, ask yourself if it would be fair to others. For example, I won't accept an image of 8 random chassis that don't have any components. The purpose of having the prize is to encourage participation and further the stated goal; not to see how many loopholes can be found.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Venko on February 14, 2013, 05:35:06 PM

So, basically number

1. No points for texture packs.

2. It's not completely made by me. This bring the question, what if I made those rar without including your "Bot Height Ruler" (don't be mad, I gave a credit to you)... but anyway, I will not get your "action cam" obviously.

3. What about this rars? You didn't comment them.

4. I will post the bots on 18th then.

But can You at least include #1 and #2 in the download section? I'm releasing them officially and for sure, even if I don't get points for them. You MUST TRY the #2 tho, it's really useful, I use it and it help me a lot in the building.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 15, 2013, 12:31:43 AM

Alright, I added your stuff to the downloads section (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads). For future reference, users can upload to this section without me (its no biggie for me to do it for you but I would prefer that people do it themselves).

I only did a quick once over for the files in the rar files. As such, I missed the tutorials that you put in a separate folder. However, unless I'm mistaken, they aren't new tutorials and they can already be found on GTM.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Noodle on February 16, 2013, 12:02:37 PM

Well I got railroaded with a sh**load of school, work, and car sh** this past week.

I don't think I'm gonna be able to submit anything.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Mr. AS on February 18, 2013, 07:40:10 PM

so, i finished all the stuff i wanted for the anniversary

I did day of all the bots in my showcase
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6848.msg574275.html#msg574275 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6848.msg574275.html#msg574275)
(admittedly, i wanted to post more bots for that, but i was busy with uploading day 1 of the week of archives), +5 (5 maximum for showcasing)

also, i did a display tourney (that counts right?)
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13120.msg574235.html#msg574235 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13120.msg574235.html#msg574235)
it had 26 bots in it... which is 3 mid level points if i am not mistaken, +6

11 points for me :)

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: MassimoV on February 18, 2013, 10:29:45 PM

I got my showcase (5), my tutorial (2), and my 32 bot display tournament (8). So 15 points for me.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: ianh05 on February 19, 2013, 11:14:09 AM

With the forum problems everyone (including myself) is having, I think we should continue to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the game for a whole week(ending 25/2/13) or month(ending 18/3/13). I don't think people like Inf should be left out just because they can't log in or post.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 19, 2013, 12:32:42 PM

Quote from: ianh05 on February 19, 2013, 11:14:09 AM

With the forum problems everyone (including myself) is having, I think we should continue to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the game for a whole week(ending 25/2/13) or month(ending 18/3/13). I don't think people like Inf should be left out just because they can't log in or post.

The problem with extending the deadline is that it takes quite a bit of time to go through and validate all the submissions. The rules would also need to be changed and rebalanced accordingly. There will be other opportunities/contests for people to get the Action Cam so I don't think extending this contest is necessary.

Furthermore, I have nothing against people that do things for the community without any incentives. Rewards are nice but that shouldn't be the only reason for doing things.

I'm still looking for a long-term solution to the login error but the workaround of deleting cookies seems to work fine ATM.

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Eligibility: Limited to people that post in the discussion thread before Feb 20 (this thread). You must include either a link or description of what you did for Feb 18 in your post (if you did more than one thing, you don't have to post it all at once).

If I am missing anyone, please let me know by midnight tomorrow (GTM time). This is a slight extension but considering that people can no longer change their scores, it shouldn't matter. Venko didn't post what he did but he stated what he was going to do and he followed through with it so I just threw him in.

Right now, we have:

	\| Low-Level	\| Mid-Level	\| High-Level	\| Score (before poll)
Lightning S.	\| 5	\| 1	\| 0	\| 7
MassimoV	\| 5	\| 5	\| 0	\| 15
Mr. AwesumSauce	\| 5	\| 3	\| 0	\| 11
venko	\| 5	\| 0	\| 0	\| 5

Both Lightning S. and MassimoV were off on the points so if they think I have it wrong please let me know ASAP.
Lightning S.: 5 new bots for 5 points and an image with 8 or more bots for 2 points.
MassimoV: 5 new bots for 5 points, a tutorial for 2 points, and 4 sets of 8 different bots in tournament vids for 4 points. (Edit: This has been corrected.)

Not the turnout that I was expecting but it is what it is. In hindsight, I should have given the reward to a fraction of the submissions instead of locking it in at 3 submissions. Regardless, I am happy to see that people participated.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Jack Daniels on February 19, 2013, 05:43:23 PM

Really all depends on who is available and when.

Maybe a good supplement to BOTM would be Contributor of the month?

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: MassimoV on February 19, 2013, 06:15:49 PM

Uhh, there were 32 bots between both heats in my display tournament.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 19, 2013, 06:59:22 PM

Quote from: Jack Daniels on February 19, 2013, 05:43:23 PM

Maybe a good supplement to BOTM would be Contributor of the month?

Not a bad idea. However, it still takes time to look through and validate all the entries. Not to mention, I would have to create something worth having in order to keep up with the demand for prizes. I'll think about it and give people a little more notice if I decide to do it again.

Quote from: MassimoV on February 19, 2013, 06:15:49 PM

Uhh, there were 32 bots between both heats in my display tournament.

Whoops, I only saw the first post that you made. I fixed the mistake and our numbers match up now.

I'm still waiting to hear from Lightning S regarding his score.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Trovaner on February 19, 2013, 09:28:35 PM

Quote from: Lightning S. on February 19, 2013, 07:16:50 PM

Quote from: Trovaner on February 19, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: Trovaner on February 19, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
I'm still waiting to hear from Lightning S regarding his score.
| Low-Level | Mid-Level | High-Level | Score (before poll)
Lightning S. | 5 | 1 | 0 | 7
Only thing I see wrong is that there should be a 2 where the 1 is so the addition is right. Other than that it looks fine to me.

I wasn't performing just addition, I was following this formula:
Score (before poll) = ((1 x # of low-level projects released) + (2 x # of mid-level projects released) + (3 x # of high-level projects released))

The multiplier was only applied when calculating the score:
Score (before poll) = ((1 x 5) + (2 x 1) + (3 x 0)) = 7

Anyways, thanks for double checking. I didn't want to short you any points.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Discussion)
Post by: Venko on February 20, 2013, 04:09:08 PM

Sorry, that I didn't post earlier. I have a good excuse. Anyway, do You remember my 4 things?
1. No points for texture packs.
2. No points, it's not 100% mine, also yes, the tutorials are old and already posted.
3. Here are the giga rars with stuff : https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13123.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13123.0.html)
4. Here are some NEW bots : https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13024.15.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,13024.15.html)

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Poll)
Post by: Trovaner on February 21, 2013, 12:00:54 PM

The poll is now up and I've edited the first post to contain all relevant information. For the most part, you can vote for anyone that you believe contributed the most.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Poll)
Post by: Trovaner on February 27, 2013, 09:01:50 AM

There is one more day left for people to cast their votes.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Poll)
Post by: 090901 on February 27, 2013, 06:53:09 PM

You spelled Mr. AwesumSauce's name wrong in the poll :dumb)

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Poll)
Post by: Trovaner on February 27, 2013, 11:54:46 PM

I did... but I was close. It was halfway between the real spelling of awesome and his user name.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Results)
Post by: Trovaner on February 28, 2013, 04:43:04 PM

Thank you to everyone that participated. Awards will be sent out to the top three tomorrow.

Title: Re: Contributor Contest (Results)
Post by: Venko on March 01, 2013, 11:21:57 AM

Lol, I didn't even use any of the three votes to vote for myself.

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