The Meaning of Life

[frezal]

For both the Theory of Evolution and the Theory of Intelligent Design, there has to be something that was just there. For you, it was matter. For us, it was God (any god actually since not all creationists are Christian).

There is no Theory of Intelligent Design.  Only dumb asses who don't know how scientific theories work would say such a thing.

[roboman2444]

yay go Darwin!

[Condor33]

There is no Theory of Intelligent Design.  Only dumb asses who don't know how scientific theories work would say such a thing.

You are my new hero.

[Urjak]

A theory needs scientific data and evidence to be considered a fact.... Intelligent Design has none....

[Meganerdbomb]

A theory needs scientific data and evidence to be considered a fact.... Intelligent Design has none....

...and what scientific evidence does the theory of Evolution have?

There is no Theory of Intelligent Design.  Only dumb asses who don't know how scientific theories work would say such a thing.

Oh so now you're resorting to insults on my intelligence? Can't you come up with a better response than that?
I suppose calling it a theory might be a bit bold, but I was trying to make a point that Intelligent Design is just as valid an opinion as Darwinism. Yes, I know the mainstream scientific community refuses to accept that, in fact they will kick you out if you say such a thing. Perhaps they're afraid of it.

[frezal]

...and what scientific evidence does the theory of Evolution have?

Have you ever read a book?  Ever?  Just today, some more evidence of evolution was revealed.  Read for a change http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/05/darwinius_masillae.php

Oh so now you're resorting to insults on my intelligence? Can't you come up with a better response than that?

Claiming that creationism is based on science insults all of our intelligence.

I suppose calling it a theory might be a bit bold, but I was trying to make a point that Intelligent Design is just as valid an opinion as Darwinism.

Which only proves your ignorance.

Yes, I know the mainstream scientific community refuses to accept that, in fact they will kick you out if you say such a thing. Perhaps they're afraid of it.

Now it all makes sense.  You saw Ben Stein's bullsh** movie and are now trying to pretend as though you know about biology.  Ben Stein is a dipsh** former speech writer for Nixon, not an expert on biology.  Actual biologists, on the other hand, are experts on biology.  Over 90% of them agree that evolution is most likely what is responsible for the gradual changes of species (much like how most physicists agree that the invisible force gravity is responsible for attraction to planetary bodies).

Seriously, learn how to read books by biologists.  While you're at it, read some scientific journals.  If you stick to stuff by Ben Stein and other douchebags, you'll only continue to make yourself look like an ass.

[Meganerdbomb]

Have you ever read a book?  Ever?  Just today, some more evidence of evolution was revealed.  Read for a change http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/05/darwinius_masillae.php



Claiming that creationism is based on science insults all of our intelligence.


Which only proves your ignorance.


Now it all makes sense.  You saw Ben Stein's bullsh** movie and are now trying to pretend as though you know about biology.  Ben Stein is a dipsh** former speech writer for Nixon, not an expert on biology.  Actual biologists, on the other hand, are experts on biology.  Over 90% of them agree that evolution is most likely what is responsible for the gradual changes of species (much like how most physicists agree that the invisible force gravity is responsible for attraction to planetary bodies).

Seriously, learn how to read books by biologists.  While you're at it, read some scientific journals.  If you stick to stuff by Ben Stein and other douchebags, you'll only continue to make yourself look like an ass.

Yea, I saw his movie awhile agop, but thats not whre Im getting all of this from. I have read many books, actually both by Creation Scientists (they do exsist) and Darwinists.. However I am not even talking about whether or not life evolved right now. Im saying that it is just as possible that life was started by a higher power of some kind as it is that it was started by a lightning strike and a lucky combination of protiens. I am also saying that there is nothing unscientific about belief in a higher power.

[Urjak]

I am also saying that there is nothing unscientific about belief in a higher power.

Belief.... No.

Saying it is fact.... Yes.

You see, we don't know how life truly started, and that is not what evolution deals with. Thus, saying that a higher power created life would require evidence to prove it exists, not require proof that it does not.

[frezal]

Yea, I saw his movie awhile agop, but thats not whre Im getting all of this from.

Then why are you echoing Ben Stein's views verbatim?

I have read many books, actually both by Creation Scientists (they do exsist) and Darwinists..

There are some scientists who are creationists.  I'll give you that.  That doesn't change the fact that over 90% of biologists (the ones who actually study life) view evolution as scientific fact.

By the way, which books have you read by "Darwinists"?  I want specific books and specific authors.

However I am not even talking about whether or not life evolved right now.

You are casting doubt on evolution by comparing it to religious babble.

Im [sic] saying that it is just as possible that life was started by a higher power of some kind as it is that it was started by a lightning strike and a lucky combination of protiens.

I'm not denying the possibility of divine creation.  It is possible.  Based on the evidence we have, it's not very likely.

I am also saying that there is nothing unscientific about belief in a higher power.

Bullsh**!  Science is, in its most basic definition, the natural explanation of things.  The divine is supernatural.  Since supernatural occurrences are outside of nature, they cannot be scientific.  To claim otherwise is pure idiocy.

[pyscolone]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-woskel0520,0,5292378.story

[frezal]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-woskel0520,0,5292378.story

I linked to the Pharyngula blog story about it earlier.