Quote from: Naryar on December 16, 2011, 10:44:41 AMMaybe 123's talking about the Old Testament ? As I remember, God was pretty damn violent (not that there's anything wrong with that) back then.Every part other than the life of Jesus pretty much. Which includes old Testament and half of the New Testament. To say they are "hateful and violent prone" is really an understatement. Followers who take those parts literally also shown "hateful and violent prone" traits.As for intuitively immoral, that is based on the harms principle. You can always argue for other forms of moral system, but so far the only argument that came out is "divine will" which actually requires at least heaven and hell to be taken literally.If you just read the Jesus part, that's not so bad.Quote from: Meganerdbomb on December 16, 2011, 06:55:38 AMQuote from: 123savethewhales on December 16, 2011, 06:18:12 AMNot take the bible literally is the worst attempt to save a religion that claims to know the truth about everything. What the Bible teaches are so hateful, violent prone, and intuitively immoral, that it can only be justify by being the literal truth.I don't know how anyone can swallow the oppressive teachings without believing in the literal truth of heaven and hell.There's nothing oppressive or immoral about the Bible. That you would even say such a thing proves that you understand little to nothing about it. And of course it's the literal and absolute truth. To say anything else is preposterous.To be precise, it doesn't matter what I draw out of it since I neither believe nor follow it. What does matter is the huge among of hates and violence among those who does follows it. They can certainly find passages in the Bible that justify their behaviors.
Maybe 123's talking about the Old Testament ? As I remember, God was pretty damn violent (not that there's anything wrong with that) back then.
Quote from: 123savethewhales on December 16, 2011, 06:18:12 AMNot take the bible literally is the worst attempt to save a religion that claims to know the truth about everything. What the Bible teaches are so hateful, violent prone, and intuitively immoral, that it can only be justify by being the literal truth.I don't know how anyone can swallow the oppressive teachings without believing in the literal truth of heaven and hell.There's nothing oppressive or immoral about the Bible. That you would even say such a thing proves that you understand little to nothing about it. And of course it's the literal and absolute truth. To say anything else is preposterous.
Not take the bible literally is the worst attempt to save a religion that claims to know the truth about everything. What the Bible teaches are so hateful, violent prone, and intuitively immoral, that it can only be justify by being the literal truth.I don't know how anyone can swallow the oppressive teachings without believing in the literal truth of heaven and hell.
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.
Nonviolent religions... you must mean Buddhism or Jainism ?
And why the hell can I remember this all from RE?
Doesn't look very fat to me
I don't consider Buddhism a religion. I consider it a lifestyle. As a general rule, religions have to have some belief about the world in general (and this normally results in a god), otherwise you're just following a different way of life.
My first question is this:Why does god not like gay people according to the words of the Bible? He never gives any explanations for it - , he never gives explanations for ANYTHINGOh, and logic dictates that god is female.
Quote from: Chaosmancer on December 17, 2011, 05:15:04 AMDoesn't look very fat to me(Image removed from quote.)
Buddhism is a lenient religion, they give guidelines rather than rules, and don't pester you about random crap.
Quote from: Chaosmancer on December 17, 2011, 04:18:51 AMBuddhism is a lenient religion, they give guidelines rather than rules, and don't pester you about random crap.But if you don't follow said "guidelines", you won't reach nirvana.(Image removed from quote.)