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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: ACAMS on September 15, 2008, 11:37:42 AM
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I can not believe that ANY state or country could allow one man to marry another man......and when I get to be king of the world it will be banned world wide.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080915/en_nm/takei_dc_2
You don't get to vote for me....if I see much more of this sh** and it will be a hostile take-over. :gunz:
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insulting one of ACAMS threads...:ban_smily:
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Oh god, Our admin is a Klu Klux Klan member...
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insulting one of ACAMS threads...:ban_smily:
Saying that when you annoyed ACAMS more than me?
He's not Megabyte or TDS, that said.
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Oh god, Our admin is a Klu Klux Klan member...
Member hell.......I am the Grand Wizard!
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I say we ban system along with the gays
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all french people are gay so they are kewl with butt secks
As long as gay people don't sword fight in front of me and don't "act gay" im fine.
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all french people are gay so they are kewl with butt secks
Less than 5% of French people are gay.
And we overfeed geese just for eating their liver.
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......And we overfeed geese just for eating their livers.
ACAMS running the KKK, Goose served up for lunch,... *hehe* I and CB (I'm assuming) will be next for not being 'pro-gay' life-style either ... I work with this life-style often in my practice.
BTW(RA2 world): Because of Zulu, I'm removing all my Star Trek mods on arenas, and I'm going to beam the USS Enterprise.gmf back to you ACAMS, cause they presently have problems on board... Going where no man has gone before.... or maybe is meant(i.e. designed) to. *___*
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BTW(RA2 world): Because of Zulu, I'm removing all my Star Trek mods on arenas, and I'm going to beam the USS Enterprise.gmf back to you ACAMS, cause they presently have problems on board... Going where no man has gone before.... or maybe is meant(i.e. designed) to. *___*
He clearly violated Starfleet "Don't ask, Don't tell" rules.
About gays......
In my my years of partying (I didn't get married till I was 37) I have seen/known several gays, some even open about it, and ALL of them preyed on young boys going thru puberty as they seemed to be an easy target. If they kept to themselves and didn't molest young underage boys I would have no problem with it, but face it.....the majority of males DO NOT like to see two grown men kissing and grabbing each other.....and we sure don't want to see them molesting underage boys.
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Yea. Ive seen that too. they like to try and "convert" people.
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Well, well... What we have got here...
I just think Naryar's pic "this thread sux" is kinda trojan... Kaspersky never lies...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97531Hehe.JPG)
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There is no trojan on Yahoo.....Kaspersky lies
(http://myfolderz.com/Images/junk/dix_are_for_chix.gif)
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lol
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You even didnt read the post, didnt you...
The trojan is not in your pic in the Yahoo.
Naryar's pic "this thread sux" is the trojan. Post #2.
Here : "http://www.homee.com/pic/thread%20sucks.jpg" !!! WARNING !!! VIRUS INSIDE !!!
Hahaha, what anti-virus program you use, so you are so sure this is not a virus...
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You are correct, my AV picked it up so I deleted it.
I will assume it was an accident and he didn't know he posted it, but will have to take action if it happens again. I have been on my laptop with crapass vista and McAfee and now I am at home with NIS and XP and it blocked it (ofcourse McAfee may have blocked it and not told me)
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Trojan MAAAAAAAN.
With 0% chance of impregnation, they probably don't need TM...
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Trojan? WTF?
Avira AntiVir didn't detected anything.
Ok then that was an accident, I'm sorry guys.
EDIT: and I will use my own banners.
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I can vouch for Nar. He and I've talked quite a bit IM-ing and I can tell he's not that kind of person. Doesn't fit the profile at all.
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Mhm. Even I can tell that he's not that kind of person...
It was a accident but...
This brings one question. If his anti-virus didnt detect lame trojans like this, with what is full his MAC-Win hybrid PC... If this passed on his PC what else can passed too... If he saw this pic (cos my Kasp dont even let me to see it) and post a link here and his AV didnt detect it, this means is very posible that he is infected allready by this trojan.
What if he send to somebody a bot or other thing and it contains a virus? Or his pics that he will use if are infected too? What if he post or upload here something else? I know he didnt do it by purpose but... Nar, get a better AV.
Or maybe he allready have this and other trojans and thats why his PC make such problems with his Win. He better find some better AV (Kaspersky on theyr site have a free one time use VERY GOOD scanner, he can use it, Kasp is good and catch viruses if even not updated so...) and do one check just to be sure everything is ok.
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Gosh i have to thank Venko twice. Once for his support and once for using the right antivirus.
On the Mac-Windows hybrid I didn't get that much viruses, perhaps not more than four in one year of use, but I'll get Kaspersky ASAP.
A bot file that contains a virus... that sounds pretty... unbelievable ??
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You are welcome...
Do you want me to send you one (*.bot) file virus ? :lol:
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Do you want me to send you one (*.bot) file virus ? :lol:
Are you going to rename an infected .exe as a .bot file and send it?
BTW Kaspersky found and deleted two trojans, but it was downloaded music, and now he lagged to death and the databases are corrupt
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Ugh, Homophobes.
Don't base an entire lifestyle on a few people ACAMS. It's just stupid.
Inf, STFU.
Now, To be fair, Stargate is better.
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Ugh, Homophobes.
Don't base an entire lifestyle on a few people ACAMS. It's just stupid.
Inf, STFU.
Now, To be fair, Stargate is better.
Sys32, two things:
-Inf didn't even posted in this thread !
-You have my respect for being the second to try to turn this thread into an all out flame war (the first was me)
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Whoops, I meant Pyscolone.
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Ugh, Homophobes.
Hardly....
S-32, Do you ever not agree with, and then vocalize that to, someone, because you disagree with the way they function(say/do)?....Like the assessment above, and this comment below:Inf(Pys), STFU.
[/COLOR]That doesn't necessarily make you a 'biggot' or it 'hate speech'. Therefore, if you can assess and then express your opinion about how others function (like you did ACAMS and Pys[even before he spoke]), then they can too.
Besides, maybe ACAMS and Pys 'were born that way', and thus can't help but find homosexual behavior objectionable....
Be fair and logical. 'Relativism' is a bottomless cesspool. If you have MSN, then we can talk about it. Input is appreciated...
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Besides, maybe ACAMS and Pys 'were born that way', and thus can't help but find homosexual behavior objectionable....
Are you telling that homophobia is genetically determined?
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Personally, I find that two men hugging and kissing shocks something in me, perhaps decency, or something like that. What? Decency? What is this crap?
But hell, we're free countries. Gays are no danger for democracy. For underage kids? Some will be punished for that. Some, because obviously only some of them are child abusers.
Passing an anti-gay law? But, laws are supposed to be the domain of reason, not the process of feelings, e.g. hate/dislike here.
Dislike gays, personally, okay. But please, no Nuremberg laws again.
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wait wait wait. Nar, you respect people for TRYING to start a flame war. Thats very odd... or to relate it to this thread "thats gay"
I find this controversial discussion rather intriguing. I have no issue with people being gay... I find it odd, and extremely unnatural, but choice is one of the things that make humans, well, human.
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I think he means having this discussion on the internet must mean that this must be a flame war, because all discussions will end that way.
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I actually think a thread like that, i mean with that topic (homosexuality, that is indeed a very hot and controversial topic, like politics), WILL end in a flame war there. Because, there are very strong beliefs both sides (anti-gay or pro-gay), and the thing will end in conflict.
And i WILL find this thread interesting if it becomes a flame war.
Conflict is a very interesting thing to be studied.
(of course i don't want conflict everywhere and will disagree with a guy that starts a flame war in a showcase, in a tourney related thread or the wiki thread)
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I think we should settle this by fighting online.
(Joking.)
I'm fine about gay people, I just hate such unkind behaviour to people.
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Conflict is a very interesting thing to be studied.
You think so too?
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I think we should settle this by fighting online.
(Joking.)
I'm fine about gay people, I just hate such unkind behaviour to people.
I agree.
Are you telling that homophobia is genetically determined?
homophobia: The term "homophobia" is a misnomer in the first place, used as propaganda to make any 'contrary opinions' concerning this life-style appear to be dysfunctional/wrong/bad.
genetically determined: No, I'm not suggesting such. I was just turning the tables for the usual rationalization for giving license to any conduct one feels like doing.
And as far as genetics, under the evolutionary schema, we are nothing but accidental products of our environs, and therefore my functioning can be nothing more/less than the genome I happen to inherit (i.e. Determinism). Thus we can do no differently; and I cannot help but function as I'm 'wired' or 'tended' to (i.e. feel). But we also happen to have 'minds' and 'wills' for understanding and choosing above mere instinct/tendencies. You cannot hold people responsible to be 'civil', when they can only do what they are tended to do; any form of 'civilization' is undermined. And this is what we see taking place today. Reason must rise above the level of a beast, else an Alpha ruler is needed to impose his will upon the rest of the pack.
Personally, I find that two men hugging and kissing shocks something in me, perhaps decency, or something like that. What? Decency? What is this crap?
But hell, we're free countries. Gays are no danger for democracy. For underage kids? Some will be punished for that. Some, because obviously only some of them are child abusers.
Passing an anti-gay law? But, laws are supposed to be the domain of reason, not the process of feelings, e.g. hate/dislike here.
Dislike gays, personally, okay. But please, no Nuremberg laws again.
I 'm not suggesting such, but rather an appeal to reason above forming relationships (hetero or homo sexual) based solely or even mainly upon stimulation/non-stimulation (sex). But I cannot expound on this here, else Spyguy will nail me again *hehe*.
Maybe I could start a thread for some discussion about this, in all my spare time...(or maybe one of you).
Conflict is a very interesting thing to be studied.
I think so too.
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I don't want to get into this argument... I've been in it before and it goes nowhere. For either side. But,
You cannot hold people responsible to be 'civil', when they can only do what they are tended to do; any form of 'civilization' is undermined. And this is what we see taking place today. Reason must rise above the level of a beast, else an Alpha ruler is needed to impose his will upon the rest of the pack.
Quoted for truth.
Too many and too strict laws are a bad thing, everyone knows this. The classic example is the Nazis. But few people realize that too much freedom is also a bad thing. Everyone always talks about "Free country" and "Free speech" and "Tolerance", but you know what you call somebody with total 100% freedom? An animal. Aside from intelligence, the difference between humans and animals is that we govern ourselves with laws. Those laws are meant to keep us civilized. Take them away, and we become a mere pack of highly intelligent beasts.
This goes beyond homosexuality by the way... people in America already have too much freedom.
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Too many and too strict laws are a bad thing, everyone knows this. The classic example is the Nazis. But few people realize that too much freedom is also a bad thing. Everyone always talks about "Free country" and "Free speech" and "Tolerance", but you know what you call somebody with total 100% freedom? An animal.
Agreed, excepted for the last word.
You can't call an animal "free" because they are ruled by, not laws in the political sense, but instinctive impulses. You know like me the three basic "laws" for survival: eating, surviving and reproducing. And, it works too for us humans, although not strictly.
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If everybody would be really free (i mean in fact, not on the paper), there will be no society. Anarchy. And, eventually, bloodshed.
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people in America already have too much freedom.
agree with everything you said, besides this part of it. But that is a completely different topic.
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Those laws are meant to keep us civilized. Take them away, and we become a mere pack of highly intelligent beasts....
[/COLOR] True, CB. But, Externally controlled/enslaved.[/COLOR]
You can't call an animal "free" because they are ruled by, not laws in the political sense, but instinctive impulses. You know like me the three basic "laws" for survival: eating, surviving and reproducing. And, it works too for us humans, although not strictly.
True, Nar. Internally controlled/enslaved.
It is a somewhat involved, but very important subject. In simple short words, the only thing that can free us from (#1) the internal enslavement to tendencies/instinct, and (#2) the external enslavement of imposed rules and laws (needed as leashes to to hold the irrational dogs in check) is consistantly reasoning, objectively working minds that possesses self-control.
If we each don't grow/mature toward this end, then the #1 will be true (no internal self-control), and then inevitably #2 will be imposed to maintain some semblance of social order (hold the dogs in check).
This would require each to objectively examine self and then deal with the issues there. CB, what if the principles of order were not externally imposed upon us, but internally formed within us (intrinsic rational self-control); i.e. 'responsible' freedom?
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Why was this thread named "OMG!!!!! Faggots in space!"? And besides that, I dont see why people care so much if people are gay. I mean really its there decision and we have no right to judge.
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My sixth-grade teacher was gay.
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Urj, it's not that simple. Under your premise, let me ask you (no harshness intended): Is it not also my own decision if I want to judge? And who are you to judge me for my own decisions about me? It's OK for me to judge, because I choose to. You cannot judge and impose your will upon me. Since you choose not to judge at all, then you cannot judge me for my decision, without rendering yourself a hypocrite.
And if we don't/can't evaluate/judge/assess, then does this mean that 'anything' is OK/right? Obviously not. (See CB's post above). So then, who is to judge/decide for a relationship/group/society what is right and wrong? What if ACAMS did not judge/evaluate/assess any one who came on this forum? What would happen to the forum community? Chaos.
No-win situation....
The point is this:
If we run only on instinct/tendency, then external control(rules,etc) are necessary to impose some kind of social order.
So neither is freedom.
Only consistant, internal logic-based, self-control, (1) helps us rise above tendency level-functioning, and (2) removes the need for external, imposed laws coercing conformity for social order.
If the steering and brakes on your car were broken, then it could not stay on the road or interact with other vehicles in any harmonious way. One could then, put up barriers and gaurd rails to keep the car in check and somewhat on the road. But if the car would own it's brokenness, and deal with self's issues to grow as a vehicle, then it would be able to function rightly on the road among other vehicles.
It's amazing, here in Mass, we have a requirement that all vehicles undergo an evaluation/judgement/assessment of it's conditon, before it goes out onto the road to interact with other vehicles. But we do not do the same with ourselves... Duh! And then wonder why our interactions with others results in scrapes and fender benders; (relationships don't work out).
Ok. I'm done...
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All i'm saying is why do you care what other people do with their lives?
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All i'm saying is why do you care what other people do with their lives?
it all depends on what it is they are doing. perhaps they are smoking. many people die from second-hand smoke, but hey, it's their life, right? if someone wanted to become a suicide bomber, it's their life. they can do what they want with it. as long as it doesn't affect me.
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it all depends on what it is they are doing. perhaps they are smoking. many people die from second-hand smoke, but hey, it's their life, right? if someone wanted to become a suicide bomber, it's their life. they can do what they want with it. as long as it doesn't affect me.
Thats a bit different. Being gay isn't exactly life or death. Its really not that big of a deal. Thats why I want to know why people care about it so much.
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In simple short words, the only thing that can free us from (#1) the internal enslavement to tendencies/instinct, and (#2) the external enslavement of imposed rules and laws (needed as leashes to to hold the irrational dogs in check) is consistantly reasoning, objectively working minds that possesses self-control.
Agreed.
Urjak, my personal theory on why people care so much about homosexuality is:
-it is about sex, so a kind of "taboo" topic, but also that everyone (nearly) has interest into.
-In the mass opinion, it is associated with sodomy, that is considered as an evil.
-Gays are a minor community, as i said (5% of people in France, but in the US maybe something close to that), so people can easily gay-bash because gays are few compared to heterosexuals.
-A lot of us have been told many times "you should marry and have children" that we disagree with homosexuality.
-It is in human nature (i mean, instincts) to discriminate. We instinctively need something to oppose or look down at.
For this, not necessarily in a conscious way but more of an impulsive judgment (that is, you simply feel it is wrong), most males don't like to see men kissing and hugging, as ACAMS said.
Hope I'm easier to understand than Mad (hehe)
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The reason over the basic instincts :
Dogs are ANIMALS = FACT. You CAN teach a dog not to eat until you give a "command" to him = FACT. When dogs obey commands they overcome theyr basic instincts to eat the food right now, and think the commands form the master will help them to survive, so its kinda simple "the reason over the basic instincts" = FACT. Dogs have a lot smaller brain than the humans = FACT. Then, why the hell some PEOPLE CANT lurn to put the reason over the basic instincts, damn it... ? So damn it put the reason over the basic instincts (witch they are to be more tolerant to gays) and start kill'em! :lol:
Im against inveterate thinking and open for the new thinking! Example :
"To have a gays is a normal thing nowdays." = That is a inveterate thinking ! KILL'EM ! :lol:
And some of the reasons why i dont like gays :
Since most of the clothes designers are gays this affect the clothes modes too. And when i go to buy some new clothes (like before few days) i "see" the "GAYISM" all over the all cloths. Sorry but, i dont want to wear a very tight/close fitting jeans (as i was saing before, im kinda physical HUGE person), plus the models are now like the FEMALE models - very short top site so your pelvis and undies are shown. I was even see some loser boys to buy A PINK clothes for males, damn it. Not to mention the too tight/close fitting t-shirts. THIS IS FOR THE GIRLS GOD DAMN IT, F*****G gays stop making MALE modes GAY ! Lets burn them with a torch light procession, Donnie go get the shotgun i will get the pitchfork... :lol: Hehehe...
The ol' school boys (not gay, real mens) ROX, gays SUX (in the both meaning) !
:!: P.S. : Before start flaming and critic me take a note that this is a joke and i post it only to have fun and make guys laugh !
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I have to agree with you on that point, pink makes me SICK tight clothes suck hard because they are not confortable and you can't move correctly for them.
But this, for both sexes. Why the hell tight clothes and pink would be for girls? (oh well there's always peeping for tight clothes..whatever)
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Several things in your dog speak:
-We, humans, are animals too.
-A dog would not think "the commands from the master will help it to survive". A dog has no reason... you know dogs are relatives to wolves (both Canis). No, they obey because they used to obey to the pack leader, and now that pack leader is the master. They just obey because it's the master. Instinct. And the master instinct would be here "stronger" than the eating instinct.
And I'm pretty sure they will disobey the master's order and eat when the master's not here it he orders the dogs not to eat.
People can't always put reason over instincts simply because we are animals. We still have the three basic instincts (eating/surviving/mating). Reason is a new thing in evolution, we are perhaps the only living beings to possess it. But these three basic instincts are deeply anchored since millions of years in our brains. You see now?
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Unbelievable, I'm not flaming you! Happy now?
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I know and im agree with you for all but...
As i say this was a joke, why you start to "resurch" my post so deeply and hardly?
BTW the right order is surviving/mating/eating. Why? Cos if the chick have teeths "you know where" you will choose to "survive" and not go to mating :lol: And if some chick (NOT as that type i mention in prev sentence) "wait you on bed" but you must go to eat you will skip that eating, im sure... :lol:
What? No laugh? It was supose to be funny...
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You overuse that smiley.
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You overuse that smiley.
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i AM a homophobe. I was stalked by a 41 year old pedophile when I was 14...all because of MYSPACE!!! i HATE gay people and if anyone gay was in my presence i'd beat the living sh** out of them no matter what the consequence.
You do not know what it is like to have to go to court 4 different times to sit there and have the gay pedophile who stalked you sit there and stare at you!
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Urjak, my personal theory on why people care so much about homosexuality is:
-it is about sex, so a kind of "taboo" topic, but also that everyone (nearly) has interest into.
-In the mass opinion, it is associated with sodomy, that is considered as an evil.
-Gays are a minor community, as i said (5% of people in France, but in the US maybe something close to that), so people can easily gay-bash because gays are few compared to heterosexuals.
-A lot of us have been told many times "you should marry and have children" that we disagree with homosexuality.
-It is in human nature (i mean, instincts) to discriminate. We instinctively need something to oppose or look down at.
For this, not necessarily in a conscious way but more of an impulsive judgment (that is, you simply feel it is wrong), most males don't like to see men kissing and hugging, as ACAMS said.
Hope I'm easier to understand than Mad (hehe)
You forgot the most important part, that is, you can't tell who's who just by looking. Part of homophobia comes from the paranoia that every guy, even your closest friends, has been one of them the whole time.
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i AM a homophobe. I was stalked by a 41 year old pedophile when I was 14...all because of MYSPACE!!! i HATE gay people and if anyone gay was in my presence i'd beat the living sh** out of them no matter what the consequence.
You do not know what it is like to have to go to court 4 different times to sit there and have the gay pedophile who stalked you sit there and stare at you!
Dude I'm sorry something like that had to happen to you :(