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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: RpJk on March 19, 2012, 02:40:52 AM
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The question is do you believe that anything and everything imaginable, unimaginable, fiction and non fiction exists?
No stupid answers please.
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Reality is reality. It is governed by logic and facts have proof behind them. Non-fction is created from these facts
Imagination is imagination. It's governed by whatever the heck you want it to be. Fiction is created from this imagination
So no, I don't. I believe that reality is real and what's made in my head stays in my f*cking head
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I believe that what is real is real, and what isn't real isn't real. Simple as.
If ficticious things existed then I'd probably be partying with the unicorns and the potato people around now.
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bloody sensible awnser there scourge
whats real is real, what is thought is thought, whats not there is not there. nothing more complex than the blindingly obvious i sometimes find.
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I believe that what is real is real, and what isn't real isn't real. Simple as.
If ficticious things existed then I'd probably be partying with the unicorns and the potato people around now.
and I'd've ripped a warphole in the world, stolen the Earth's Core and created the Apocalypse
bloody sensible awnser there scourge
Thanks
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But considering the size of the universe and beyond it could be possible.
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But considering the size of the universe and beyond it could be possible.
Not really. Consider the fact that a heckuva lot of fiction stuff is based on Earth, not to mention that it comes from people's imaginations, which is basically playtime for the subconscious
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That's a stupid question. You can't possibly answer "yes" and face the logical consequences without keeping your sanity.
So I'll answer "no".
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God.
Therefore, no.
Reasonably sound proof, I feel. :gawe:
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God.
Therefore, no.
Reasonably sound proof, I feel. :gawe:
wut
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Nope. For example, Pokémon can't be real, Or any else fictional story/thing.
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God.
Therefore, no.
Reasonably sound proof, I feel. :gawe:
wut
God is fictitious, he's saying
Or any else fictional story/thing.
Actually, a lot of fiction stories could exist. The ones in the realistic genre, that is, like Sense and Sensibility or any of that period drama trash
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God.
Therefore, no.
Reasonably sound proof, I feel. :gawe:
wut
nice one :D
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42, no seriously... 42
Life and existence is as crazy as saying the answer to the ultimate question being 42.
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what is six times seven? would be a better question. it has a definate awnser
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what is six times seven? would be a better question. it has a definate awnser
42.
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Parallel universes could exist, though it is likely that they lack the fiction, and only change the reality.
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what is six times seven? would be a better question. it has a definate awnser
42.
exactly
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Can you define reality? Can you even prove that you exist? Can you prove that robot unicorns don't exist?
Now consider this, several renowned physicists have theorized that there could be an infinite number of parallel universes, and that they may not necessarily follow the same rules as our own, so literally anything could potentially exist in a parallel world.
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The question is do you believe that anything and everything imaginable, unimaginable, fiction and non fiction exists?
yes i believe everything i hear and see i think there are 2 children with a grim reaper for a friend and that there were a short guy and a tall guy with a mental disability working on a ranch during the depression but the short guy
and that biggie burger sponsors robot combat events yep
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I know I exist.
I know I have thoughts.
I know my thoughts exist.
I know that anything I imagine is a thought.
Therefore, on some level, everything that I have the capacity to imagine exists.
So to answer the initial question: yes.
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I know I exist.
I know I have thoughts.
I know my thoughts exist.
I know that anything I imagine is a thought.
Therefore, on some level, everything that I have the capacity to imagine exists.
So to answer the initial question: yes.
Oh, and how do you know? I now make the claim that you, in fact, do not exist. Prove me wrong.
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
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@MNB:
I will play along for a second and admit that yes, I am but a figment of your imagination projected as a personality on this forum all as a part of one of your extremely vivid and life-like dreams. First of all, you have an extremely awesome imagination. Second of all, following my logic, even if I am but a meager thought of yours, I exist on some level somewhere to someone.
At this point, it's really just a question regarding the semantics of "existence" and "reality."
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What do you believe is after death?
There are various theories, including:
Heaven and Hell
Void
Existence Cease
Reincarnation
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I hope after death is Reincarnation... or Heaven. :3
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
No idea. I don't think about that kind of thing.
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
Valhalla.
No actually I have no idea and no means to prove it, but that would be awesum
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nowt
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nowt
At the same time, can our conscience existence really cease? It's one of the biggest question in the universe
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Following death, I believe I'll be put to good use and grow a tree of some description.
And I prefer not to think about whether I exist, or whether my conscience exists and whatnot. Takes up too much of my time for enjoying myself. =P
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reincarnation because it makes some sort of sense
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
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i haven't a clue what happens after death. buuuut i plan to live to a ripe old age. so i have another 60-70 years left on the clock
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nowt
At the same time, can our conscience existence really cease? It's one of the biggest question in the universe
we get into Descartes here, to be honest i don't really mind either way, it would be good for thought and personality to be carried on after death but then i would have to put up with religious nutters bannging on about how this is heaven or ****ing purgatory.
i would like to think that the end is an end, becuse the universe seems to be infinite, and the mind of people and things is infinte too it would be nice to have something finite
pretty pointless thinking about it, you ain't going to get the awnser, you get an awnser.
i'd preffer to sit back, light up and just completely and utterly ignore everthing from now to the day in ten or twenty years time when i die and then think about it.
if sense is made from this, i have miserably failed
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Everything is temporary. Once the universe implodes, there will be only the void.
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Everything is temporary. Once the universe implodes, there will be only the void.
*Thunderclap*
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
I don't care about anything
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Everything is temporary. Once the universe implodes, there will be only the void.
Once the universe implodes, and if it does, we will NOT KNOW what will happen, since our perception is limited to the universe.
Yes, by temporary existence I mean and existence far smaller in time than the existence of the universe, and an immortal entity can be summed as an entity that will finish it's life with the universe.
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
ok well after you die you're put in some kind of wooden box or whatever and lowered into the ground to rot for who knows how many years and there is a fancy rock put right next to your buried carcass with words on it
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Everything is temporary. Once the universe implodes, there will be only the void.
Once the universe implodes, and if it does, we will NOT KNOW what will happen, since our perception is limited to the universe.
Yes, by temporary existence I mean and existence far smaller in time than the existence of the universe, and an immortal entity can be summed as an entity that will finish it's life with the universe.
While our perception may be limited to the universe, that instantly says we can't percieve of anything outwith the universe, and how can we recognise, or even care, about things we can't perceive?
And mortality is defined as the condition of being suceptible to death. If something's life is finished with the universe, then it is still suceptible to its life being finished, which defines it as mortal. Therefore there is no immortal being or object that we can perceive of, and that only leaves human beings capable of perceiving, and thus caring about, temporary things.
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
I personally believe in the concept of afterlife, meself.
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OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
I personally believe in the concept of afterlife, meself.
Lucky you
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Naryar just acknowledged my masculinity. I really do believe in everything now.
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I believe what is after death is you are born again with memories erased and you are in a different universe with different laws of physics and other stuff.
Hence it is the only way to go to other universes.
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I believe what is after death is you are born again with memories erased and you are in a different universe with different laws of physics and other stuff.
Hence it is the only way to go to other universes.
I believe that's preposterous.
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I believe what is after death is you are born again with memories erased and you are in a different universe with different laws of physics and other stuff.
Hence it is the only way to go to other universes.
I believe that's preposterous.
Likeiwise, though I don't tend to ponder what happens after death. I'd like to believe in Hell, so I can help turn it into a party place
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I believe what is after death is you are born again with memories erased and you are in a different universe with different laws of physics and other stuff.
Hence it is the only way to go to other universes.
I think that's plausible.
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I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Spoken like a manly man ! I salute you.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
Be prepared to watch everything you care about die
So you only care about temporary things ?
Naryar just acknowledged my masculinity. I really do believe in everything now.
Yes, yes, because you rely on me for validation of your beliefs :p
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irony: he was using it
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irony: he was using it
(http://guerrieri.weebly.com/uploads/1/5/0/8/1508023/416755_orig.jpg)
And seems you didn't caught my sarcasm.
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Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
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Living at own home, Still in GTM (Unless something bad has happened) And um.. I possibly have girlfiend.
Who knows.
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Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
Standing in concrete and sinking to the bottom of the ocean rapidly.
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dead
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Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
Uuh... Probably... In my house.
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Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
I think I will be 24.
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The question is do you believe that anything and everything imaginable, unimaginable, fiction and non fiction exists?
No stupid answers please.
Yes obviously, because this is a rhetorical question.
Everything imaginable, fiction, and non fiction by definition must exist as neural information at some point in time. Otherwise it is cannot be imaginable, fiction, or non fiction.
Everything unimaginable must also exist, because by definition it is all existing things outside of our imagination.
OK next big question:
What do you believe is after death?
The end of this world as defined by my experiential sphere. Rather a new world will begin is an entirely different matter.
Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
How is this a big question?
Sorry I live at the moment, I don't think about stuff that far away.
I know I exist.
I know I have thoughts.
I know my thoughts exist.
I know that anything I imagine is a thought.
Therefore, on some level, everything that I have the capacity to imagine exists.
So to answer the initial question: yes.
Oh, and how do you know? I now make the claim that you, in fact, do not exist. Prove me wrong.
This is a confusion in how "proof" works. You cannot prove anything with itself. That is circular reasoning (example: I think therefore I exist, I exist therefore I can think). To prove me to myself are both illogical and meaningless. Normally I don't give 2 rats about logic, but proof is a logical process and only has power within the logical realm.
However, I can prove to YOU that I exist simply by responding. By reading this I must exist at minimum as the information you just took in.
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Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
Six feet under for twelve months plus
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I know I exist.
I know I have thoughts.
I know my thoughts exist.
I know that anything I imagine is a thought.
Therefore, on some level, everything that I have the capacity to imagine exists.
So to answer the initial question: yes.
Oh, and how do you know? I now make the claim that you, in fact, do not exist. Prove me wrong.
This is a confusion in how "proof" works. You cannot prove anything with itself. That is circular reasoning (example: I think therefore I exist, I exist therefore I can think). To prove me to myself are both illogical and meaningless. Normally I don't give 2 rats about logic, but proof is a logical process and only has power within the logical realm.
However, I can prove to YOU that I exist simply by responding. By reading this I must exist at minimum as the information you just took in.
I'm confused as to who you're arguing against here: MNB or myself?
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earth
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I know I exist.
I know I have thoughts.
I know my thoughts exist.
I know that anything I imagine is a thought.
Therefore, on some level, everything that I have the capacity to imagine exists.
So to answer the initial question: yes.
Oh, and how do you know? I now make the claim that you, in fact, do not exist. Prove me wrong.
This is a confusion in how "proof" works. You cannot prove anything with itself. That is circular reasoning (example: I think therefore I exist, I exist therefore I can think). To prove me to myself are both illogical and meaningless. Normally I don't give 2 rats about logic, but proof is a logical process and only has power within the logical realm.
However, I can prove to YOU that I exist simply by responding. By reading this I must exist at minimum as the information you just took in.
I'm confused as to who you're arguing against here: MNB or myself?
MNB, because he asked how you know yourself exist, and demands proof. To me, demanding proof in this context is pointless. Proof is a tool, not a be all end of ticket to some tangible absolute truth. This is why I always said logic is overrated.
Unless of course, you also find proofing to yourself that you exist important. In that case I will be arguing against you as well.
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Affirmation of one's own existence can only be brought about through recognition by another in a struggle to the death.
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Affirmation of one's own existence can only be brought about through recognition by another in a struggle to the death.
You go do that with Naryar or something. I for one do not care for my existence in words or definitions. I like myself just fine as is.
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But right now you don't even know if you actually exist.
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But right now you don't even know if you actually exist.
Why should anyone give 2 rats about slapping the word existing on themselves?
I don't care if "anything" exists absolutely. That's like some western religion cult stuff..... I reject that definition as meaningless and bears no relevance to my life. I define existence as a metaphor to my experiential sphere. This begins from the core of self. It then branches out through perception and filtered through intuitive rules automatically. By the time information reach consciousness, where thoughts occurs, it already lose 3 layers of clarity. Therefore I see no reason to doubt the self through stupid ideas like logic.
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Affirmation of one's own existence can only be brought about through recognition by another in a struggle to the death.
+manpoints
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Affirmation of one's own existence can only be brought about through recognition by another in a struggle to the death.
-manpoints
FIFY because he's all talk and no show.
I intend to live forever. So far, so good. :gawe:
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Well, so far I'm still succeeding in my goal of living forever. Also the struggle to the death thing was from Hegel, and he realized that there was a problem with this in that once one actually kills the other, he loses the recognition and thus the self affirmation.
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Well, so far I'm still succeeding in my goal of living forever. Also the struggle to the death thing was from Hegel, and he realized that there was a problem with this in that once one actually kills the other, he loses the recognition and thus the self affirmation.
Which means, to earn manpoints, you have to enter countless mortal combats..... That surely goes against your live forever philosophy.
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Not if I win. :evilsmile:
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but can you win every fight?
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Next big question:
Where do you think you will be in 5 years?
In the State of Confusion
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Not if I win. :evilsmile:
It isn't mortal combat if you don't risk dying.
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but can you win every fight?
It doesn't matter, if I am to be truly manly, I must enter every fight as if there is no way I can lose. My philosophy that I intend to live forever does not mean that I am afraid of dying, but rather that I live as if I never will.
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The one who lives forever never fears dying
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The one who lives forever never fears dying
Where did you get that idea? Is that something out of Anime?
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The one who lives forever never fears dying
Where did you get that idea? Is that something out of Anime?
Actually, it's a quote that was in my student diary back when I still attended high school.
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The question is do you believe that anything and everything imaginable, unimaginable, fiction and non fiction exists?
No stupid answers please.
I kinda believe in the multiverse theory, and that with the right potential, anything is possible, so, yuh.