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Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2008, 11:01:21 AM
I just spent 5 hours struggling with my computer in order to cancel a Chdsk.exe command that I launched because that Mac-supported Windows crashes my games extremely easily (excepted RA2 and Morrowind)... It also did me things like launching Firefox 3 in 5 minutes, or putting me a blank screen for no reason, breaking my web connection...

The Chkdsk blocked at the end... some of you guys know what is a hard drive disk check in Windows XP, right? Well, the thing asks you before starting "hit any key if you want to cancel".

I put a WEIGHT on several keys and resetted the comp more than 40 times, but no. Generally i just need to reset it less than 15 times, but...

I tried to mess with the DOS, but the MacBook's keyboard don't have brackets (and no Del key, that said, great for RA2) and i can't use commands.

Finished with a simple thing: "start Windows with last working parameters" (or something like that), it worked.

For concluding... **** the guys that say "you can use Windows on the new Mac computers".
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 12, 2008, 02:15:00 PM
And i tought that having only one mouse button is bad?

They have macs at work so I have no choise there, but they are on OS X.

Try saving money and get a good PC or try finding a keyboard with the missing keys that works on mac too. Other than that, I can only wish the  best of luck.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: goose on September 12, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
First mistake: buying a Mac for gaming. They are horrible.
plugin a windows usb keyboard. That may fix a few of your keyboard issues.

also {}[]?
(this was typed on a mac)

besides games, windows works great for me.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
One mouse button isn't that annoying, i have a touchpad (mice are better, that said) and I can make the right click by putting two fingers on the touchpad and clicking on the only button.

I have a MacBook classic (the small, new laptop, all plain ugly white)...

And I can't make both of these brackets!

I have a numpad in my own keyboard (K for 2, I for 5)..., F1-F5 are used for luminosity and sound volume... for sure, the computer is small (15' screen), but the keyboard too.

Indeed Mac are horrible for games, but especially running Windows games on a Mac.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Hydro on September 12, 2008, 08:49:14 PM
im not taking any chances. hp pavilion is good.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 13, 2008, 05:59:05 AM
Quote from: Hydro;14729
im not taking any chances. hp pavilion is good.

Yep, it sure is. I have that too and my PC, they are both just about as good, the laptop only has 1Gb more RAM(3Gb) and 0.70GHz less processor power(PC has 2.70GHz) both are dualcore. And my PC has GeForce 8600GT and laptop GeForce 8400m.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Somebody on September 13, 2008, 06:35:31 AM
I have a near brand new Dell Vostro 200 Mini Tower, which (if not for special offers) costed over 1000 dollars.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 13, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
...windows forever... ...and ever... ...as long as they dont run outa business... ...that would be bad!!!!
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: goose on September 14, 2008, 01:30:15 AM
If windows went out of business then game developers would be forced to make games on the mac. All will be well, then.

The ONLY bad thing about macs is the game/program support. It is a much better platform, but developers do not use it because windows has 87% of the market.  

vista got better with SP1 but it is still horrible.
macs Support 2 button mice. the "mighty mouse" is actually 2 buttons.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 14, 2008, 04:56:33 PM
macs have a good fast start up i have to admit
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Somebody on September 14, 2008, 05:52:30 PM
I have Macs at my high school that run OS X but they still suck. They are the old colored ones that wont let you be on the internet more than 5 minutes before it fails.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: goose on September 14, 2008, 06:30:37 PM
School macs  are horrible.  Novel did a half-ass job on its mac version port. and all programs run through the server making them godly slow.

I hated macs(because of school) until I tried it at a buddies house.
Title: Mac Sucks
Post by: Naryar on September 21, 2008, 04:13:49 AM
And NOW gentlemen, even better:

"Windows can't start because the file is missing or damaged: \WINDOWS\system32\config\SYSTEM"

I know how to repair... copy the file from the windows install CD, BUT i need the "\" to make this and the BS MacBook keyboard just has the "/". "\" can be done with a key combination but ONLY on Windows, not on DOS.

I could reinstall Windows, but in that case there are chances that i lose some data including the RA2 folders and all my bots !

I really should have bought a PC laptop. Cheaper, and better config.

___________

EDIT

There is a working copy on the repair directory of Windows, but...

I'm actually working on bash 2.05b (Mac) because I can't make the \ on MS-DOS thanks to the keyboard.

I simply need to copy and overwrite the C:\Windows\repair\system file to C:\Windows\system32\config\system.

The command is cp, ,but on the Mac bash, i can't find the right directory!
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
Aaah, the problem is solved, i can access windows now with no lost data, but i went into SP1 now, and i must reinstall SP2 then all the drivers that needs Windows to work decently on a Mac... In one word "screwed".

I have actually no sound, RA2 doesn't work because of crappy graphic driver, the mouse is messed up, no right click... and no internet because SP1 doesn't recognize WiFi.

______

EDIT:: AAH IT WAS DELETED AGAIN! I bet it's a virus!
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on September 22, 2008, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: Naryar;15348
AAH IT WAS DELETED AGAIN! I bet it's a virus!
Hehe, of course its a virus. - Venko was thinking, after all, he allways knew that to have a good anti-virus is criticaly important for one PC. Venko was watching this post with complacency, cos even with installing and uninstalling many sh** programs his windows was still working perfectly, cos Venko knows that viruses makes windows sh**, not installing programs, drivers, updates, etc. After all, he remember that with his Kaspersky, he was never have viruses or problems with his windows.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Gigafrost on September 22, 2008, 10:12:48 PM
I do admit that in terms of using a platform for media, music cration, mixing, burning, etc. Mac computers are not at all bad...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 23, 2008, 04:00:23 AM
well not it's not a virus. it just deleted the file once more then it was fine.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on September 23, 2008, 02:54:50 PM
Then how you will explain that on my PC, files was NEVER deleted by themselfs ?
Who or what delete yours ?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 24, 2008, 05:40:10 AM
Venko: it happened to a bunch of people. i googled it. im not the only one and one of my friends got that too, and i have no internet link with him.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on September 24, 2008, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: Naryar;15450
Venko: it happened to a bunch of people. i googled it. im not the only one and one of my friends got that too, and i have no internet link with him.  

Pyscolone: agreed.


What are you talking about ? Seriously, be more specific please... ?????
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Hydro on September 24, 2008, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: somestrangeguy;14752
Yep, it sure is. I have that too and my PC, they are both just about as good, the laptop only has 1Gb more RAM(3Gb) and 0.70GHz less processor power(PC has 2.70GHz) both are dualcore. And my PC has GeForce 8600GT and laptop GeForce 8400m.



i wish i had a laptop...

my pc has an older geforce uh, i think 5400... not sure.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on September 25, 2008, 05:38:20 AM
Everything's fine now, i played RA2 this morning, but now Windows is blocked because I CANT ACTIVATE IT, considered that i installed it several times, perhaps four times.

EDIT: YAYYY! It worked! Activated!

Gonna build and send all to Giga.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on October 10, 2008, 12:46:02 AM
Guess what guys?

A thing re-deleted the file and I'm screwed again.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2009, 09:54:25 AM
Bump.

That time, my comp can't access to a part of my hard drive as i could do easily 4 hours ago (it says it's "not formatted" but i'm pretty sure it is). Windows takes ages to load but works with no problem once started.

Wasn't much important things, another older version of Windows that i don't use (actually the one that i used before the problem stated earlier, 6 months ago), several files of few use...

...Excepted ONE 3,5-Gb folder...

...AND GUESS WHAT IT IS ???
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on April 02, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
NO IDEA MAN!!
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Urjak on April 02, 2009, 10:31:35 AM
Dear God Naryar, you sure do have computer problems....
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: System32 on April 02, 2009, 10:37:42 AM
Don't mess with System32, COZ I HAS IMPORANT FILEZ...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: R1885 on April 02, 2009, 10:41:33 AM
DSL?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2009, 10:56:15 AM
Everything.

All RA2.

I got a 6-month-old save of both DSL and stock on my iPod however...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on April 02, 2009, 10:58:59 AM
...So you lost all your RA2 stuff?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Yes.

Apart from some scarce bot files, TXT's and other useless stuff...

...hopefully i can reinstall it right now.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on April 02, 2009, 11:11:24 AM
.....Man....
Sorry, Nar...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 02, 2009, 04:24:18 PM
Out of curiosity, are you running Windows from Boot Camp, or are you running it through programs like VirtualBox, VMWare, or Parallels?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 03, 2009, 02:36:58 AM
Boot Camp.

Although i have no Mac OS installed on my comp right now.

EDIT: I will try to recover my RA2 folders on the disc. Will check if this works.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: SpyGuy on April 03, 2009, 05:20:02 AM
"HIT ANY KEY TO CONTINUE" . o O (Where's the ANY key?) -Homer Simpson
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 03, 2009, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Naryar;32745
Boot Camp.

Although i have no Mac OS installed on my comp right now.

EDIT: I will try to recover my RA2 folders on the disc. Will check if this works.

What's the point of owning an Apple if you don't have the Mac OS?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2009, 02:26:04 AM
I started with Mac OS, then installed a dual Mac/Win OS, then comp crashed, i could not reinstall the Mac OS because of CD issues and i have just Win XP now.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Serge on April 04, 2009, 08:30:55 AM
(http://imgur.com/F0QZS.jpg)
Why choose one when you can have all three?

(yes, I need to clean my screen)
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2009, 08:44:26 AM
And... i just reinstalled Windows right now !

Probably have to reinstall everything again, though i think i can salvage most files from the other partition - the partition that could start Windows yesterday.

Still no RA2, apart from Inf's and Sage's fresh copies that MIGHT be still here.

And a 6-month-old save (including RA2) that i could retrive from my iPod but i need to find the link cable.

I love my comp.

(Posting from the family's comp)
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on April 04, 2009, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: Jeffery;32723
Out of curiosity, are you running Windows from Boot Camp, or are you running it through programs like VirtualBox, VMWare, or Parallels?


I wanted to have a emulated "WIN 98 SE" on my PC, so i tried many different emulators. They seems to work well after i installed the win 98, but they work only with desktop windows based programs... When i tried to run some 3D games, i realize that they will not help me, cos the video is software emulated and its too lame to run 3D games. So anyone can help me and tell me a win 98 emulator that will be ebale to run 3D games thru my real video card and system (compibilty mode sux and i didn't install a real win 98 cos drivers for ATI HD 3870 crossfire and other new parts don't exist for example and so...). So... Please someone tell me a emulator that will run 3D games for win98 on my Win XP pro SP3 at home. Note: My MoBo supports hardwarly the emulated systems and take one of the CPU cores for the emulated system.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 04, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: venko;32864
I wanted to have a emulated "WIN 98 SE" on my PC, so i tried many different emulators. They seems to work well after i installed the win 98, but they work only with desktop windows based programs... When i tried to run some 3D games, i realize that they will not help me, cos the video is software emulated and its too lame to run 3D games. So anyone can help me and tell me a win 98 emulator that will be ebale to run 3D games thru my real video card and system (compibilty mode sux and i didn't install a real win 98 cos drivers for ATI HD 3870 crossfire and other new parts don't exist for example and so...). So... Please someone tell me a emulator that will run 3D games for win98 on my Win XP pro SP3 at home. Note: My MoBo supports hardwarly the emulated systems and take one of the CPU cores for the emulated system.

Couldn't you just partition your hard drive and install Windows 98 on there?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on April 04, 2009, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: venko;32864
I wanted to have a emulated "WIN 98 SE" on my PC, so i tried many different emulators. They seems to work well after i installed the win 98, but they work only with desktop windows based programs... When i tried to run some 3D games, i realize that they will not help me, cos the video is software emulated and its too lame to run 3D games. So anyone can help me and tell me a win 98 emulator that will be ebale to run 3D games thru my real video card and system (compibility mode sux and i didn't install a real win 98 cos drivers for ATI HD 3870 crossfire and other new parts don't exist for example and so...). So... Please someone tell me a emulator that will run 3D games for win98 on my Win XP pro SP3 at home. Note: My MoBo supports hardwarly the emulated systems and take one of the CPU cores for the emulated system.

Read carefully!

Quote from: Jeffery;32887
Couldn't you just partition your hard drive and install Windows 98 on there?

Do you think i don't know this option???

And after i install a real win 98, how im supose to get a drivers for my parts witch are mostly new? Q6600 quad core clocked to 3,7GHz, 4 GB DDR3, 2x ati HD 3870 crossfire (im going to replace them with two 4870 soon), Gigabyte MoBo DQ..."something", 1 TB hards and so... How im supose to get drivers for these new parts? Do you think they have ANY driver support for Win98?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 07, 2009, 10:01:29 PM
I don't really know what you're expecting, venko.  If you're wanting to run Windows 98 while taking advantage of your mighty processing power, I'm afraid you're sh** out of luck.  If you just want an emulator that allows for some hardware 3D acceleration, try doing some research on your own.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Sage on April 07, 2009, 10:12:39 PM
WHY IS JEFFERY's NAME IN DARK RED??
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 07, 2009, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: Sage;33429
WHY IS JEFFERY's NAME IN DARK RED??

On my screen, it's orange, just like yours.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Venko on April 08, 2009, 02:24:46 PM
I tried about 10 emu.s and no one works with 3D games. I was thinking that you may know one...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on April 08, 2009, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: venko;33478
I tried about 10 emu.s and no one works with 3D games. I was thinking that you may know one...

Off of the top of my head, I only know of ones that work on OS X.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Sage on April 08, 2009, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: Jeffery;33434
On my screen, it's orange, just like yours.

oh. looked different haha.

meant no offense, just didnt think you were an admin. definitly a veteran.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: roboman2444 on May 10, 2009, 11:31:06 AM
BUMP!
 for your problem you should use parallels
http://www.parallels.com/
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 11, 2009, 05:03:57 AM
I'm jumping back to the Mac topic. I like Macs, but I was raised on Windows 95, ME(completely junk OS) and now I have XP.
 
In school, in the Graphic Arts class I took, was my first experience with a Mac (they had them because Macs are notoriously better for graphic design). They were almost brand new iMacs with OSX (not sure which version though). Once I learned the basics of Macs, I loved it. I still wouldn't trade my PC for one just yet, though.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on June 29, 2009, 05:13:52 AM
AAND... guess what... my S32 folder got raped and i can't run windows, it seems the ntoskrnl.exe file is damaged or missing.

I did found the solution on the internets but my comp says access denied when i try to fix the thing...

I just hope i won't lose my RA2 files.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Doomkiller on June 29, 2009, 05:27:48 AM
Naryar: U need a new computer. STAT
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: tankcat on June 29, 2009, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: Naryar;47444
AAND... guess what... my S32 folder got raped and i can't run windows, it seems the ntoskrnl.exe file is damaged or missing.

I did found the solution on the internets but my comp says access denied when i try to fix the thing...

I just hope i won't lose my RA2 files.


LOL naryar has a virus. you're screwed dude, notskrnl corruption means whatever is messing up your computer most likely is a rootkit with administator access. Just reformat and hope for the best, stop going to porn sites/using limewire and download a safe browser like firefox with noscript plugin, damn.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on June 29, 2009, 07:22:21 AM
I am currently installing Windows on an unused partition of my hard drive and will try to fix the ntoskrnl file and save my RA2 and other important things on my 6-year-old first edition iPod.

Or you say it's better to save files, format everything and restart from zero ?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on June 29, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: tankcat;47470
LOL naryar has a virus. you're screwed dude, notskrnl corruption means whatever is messing up your computer most likely is a rootkit with administator access. Just reformat and hope for the best, stop going to porn sites/using limewire and download a safe browser like firefox with noscript plugin, damn.

Doesn't Nar have a Mac?
 
If he does, there is only one known virus that effects Macs.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on June 29, 2009, 04:10:37 PM
I have a Mac with Windows XP installed on it :S

It works now but i have issues with internet connection (i'm on the family's computer)
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: GameKing3 on June 29, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
Thats always been my favorite thing about mac's is that you can have Windows and OS installed and switch back and forth. That and the superior graphic design programs The downfall is that windows does not work the best on mac's. By that i mean glitchy, slow, etc..
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on June 29, 2009, 11:54:37 PM
Quote from: GameKing3;47634
The downfall is that windows does not work the best on mac's. By that i mean glitchy, slow, etc..


Exact point of the thread.

Anyways everything's fixed now.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on June 30, 2009, 10:21:23 AM
=D
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on June 30, 2009, 12:54:02 PM
Quote from: GameKing3;47634
Thats always been my favorite thing about mac's is that you can have Windows and OS installed and switch back and forth. That and the superior graphic design programs The downfall is that windows does not work the best on mac's. By that i mean glitchy, slow, etc..

That's always been your favorite thing about Macs? Were you born in '06? Bootcamp didn't come along until Intel processors (which were first introduced to Macs in '06). Previously, you had to emulate in order to run Windows, which presented the slow and glitchy problems you listed. If you run Windows in Bootcamp, your Mac acts just like an ordinary PC. Any glitchyness is the fault of the user.

As for superior graphic design programs, that hasn't been true for a few years now. Sure, Final Cut Pro is nice, but the programs on Windows have caught up (and Photoshop is now offering more on the Windows front than the Mac). These days it really is all about personal preference.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on July 13, 2009, 08:00:57 AM
AND HERE WE GO AGAIN.

Now it's the goddamn trackpad button. It's completely screwed, i keep making selection boxes with the mouse pointer without holding anything, the right moause button function works 1/5 times and the left mouse button is unpredictable (hell, i just deleted half of this post just by moving the mouse, all hail Ctrl+Z)

I tried to reinstall the Boot Camp trackpad drivers but absolutely nothing ensured.

Needless to say it makes bot building a pain, i can barely rotate the bot in the bot lab.

My old Mac mouse plugged on, it fixed everything except i have no more right mouse button... and combining the trackpad and the mouse to work together is hell.

I'll try to buy a normal USB mouse for replacing the trackpad, but if it does not work and i can't fix the damn thing...

...well the NAR AI Beta won't get more bots built by me.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: infiniteinertia on July 13, 2009, 08:16:09 AM
HP Pavilionnnn. But Vista is gay
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on July 13, 2009, 08:17:55 AM
I know Vista is ghey. I use XP and will always use it.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on October 23, 2009, 02:51:16 AM
Am posting this on one of my university's computers since mine crashed AGAIN.

Damn thing keeps BSODing just after the windows loading screen (Seems it's a Registry entry in System32 that's the issue.) - and as i am an idiot i didnt made a backup of my important files on my iPod.

I just hope i can save my files now...
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Serge on October 23, 2009, 05:11:55 AM
Crash at startup is probably due to drivers being ****ed up or Windows not being able to access the HDD partition where it's kernel is. Have you fiddled around in the BIOS settings lately?
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on October 23, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Nope. I just defragged my drive yesterday...

I ran chkdsk.exe in MS-DOS, it kept coming back to 50%... was pisssed, reboot, and it works like a charm.
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Stagfish on October 23, 2009, 01:44:49 PM
macs are crap but have great screens

macs are crap because i got a pop up saying on a freinds mac press delete to go back
Title: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on October 23, 2009, 01:46:54 PM
??
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on February 26, 2010, 06:20:34 AM
While trying to reinstall windows to make RA2 work i accidentally

(http://allisonkilkenny.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/george-bush-sour.jpg)

my whole internet connection WITHOUT repairing RA2, and i can't reinstall windows because i broke the Boot Camp drivers CD.

(Dwarf Forteress works now though)

The Windows CD is probably damaged as well, so i'll try to reinstall windows after having torrented the drivers (if i manage to do it), either i get Ubuntu and try to make RA2 work on it, either i buy another computer.
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: SKBT on February 26, 2010, 06:33:06 AM
I think you should juts get a new computer. After all the trouble you have gone through I don't see the benifit of just going through the same problems again. Also win7 is much better than vista.
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: Sage on February 26, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
I torrented the Windows OS and put it on a DVD to make it an installation disc. Obviously it worked.
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: frezal on February 26, 2010, 11:58:04 AM
@ Naryar: Do you live in a warzone or something? What's with all the destruction?
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: Stagfish on February 26, 2010, 12:03:41 PM
macs are crap but have great screens

macs are crap because i got a pop up saying on a freinds mac press delete to go back

i dont remeber posting that  :confused:
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: Reier on February 26, 2010, 12:20:06 PM
I torrented the Windows OS and put it on a DVD to make it an installation disc. Obviously it worked.
ewwwwww


Get it legally or don't get it, Nary.
Title: Re: I HATE MAC
Post by: Naryar on March 01, 2010, 02:27:24 AM
I will do as i wish :P

Damn comp can't even install ubuntu. Maybe i should buy a CD rather than download/burn to a CD...