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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: Dexterhunter on October 31, 2010, 11:15:15 PM

Title: Hmm.
Post by: Dexterhunter on October 31, 2010, 11:15:15 PM
This community is starting to suck.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Little lost bot on October 31, 2010, 11:22:19 PM
Well thats nice to know. What part of it?
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Post by: JoeBlo on October 31, 2010, 11:47:48 PM
At least there is one still.
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Post by: Jonzu95 on November 01, 2010, 02:12:43 AM
Dex, Prove.
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Post by: powerrave on November 01, 2010, 04:43:34 AM
maybe it's because it's not what it used to be. it has changed a lot.

but Dex, please be more specific. it would help all of us... i hope.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Naryar on November 01, 2010, 04:46:11 AM
The chatterbox ? The playground ?

Hopefully I do ignore the Off Topics boards for now, but still...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Hydro on November 01, 2010, 11:26:26 AM
EXPLAIN!! EXPLAAAAAAAAIIN!!!!


*cough*
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Thyrus on November 01, 2010, 11:30:41 AM
thought the same some months ago.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
Which aspects of the community? It might have changed quite significantly in places, but as Joe says, there's still an RA2 community, and I guess that's something to be thankful for. =)
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Badnik96 on November 01, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
-_-'

I kinda agree here. I remember when I joined there was much less spam and more bots being posted per day. It just seems that the game is starting to wear thin.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Stagfish on November 01, 2010, 04:16:25 PM
The forum went through a period of spam and noobs but I think its ending now.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2010, 04:29:42 PM
The forum went through a period of spam and noobs but I think its ending now.
O rly?  :coolface

Don't you have more members here nowadays?
If so then inevitably there are going to be more non RA2 related threads here.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 01, 2010, 04:36:52 PM
I guess so.

In my view, it's quite a bad idea when people bring friends over onto the GTM forums who have little or no interest in RA2 beforehand. And yes, I'm thinking of SotG and, to a lesser extent, Kujii. If they actually start building bots, and trying to learn about the game, then that's fine, that's why the majority of us are here, but if not, then...there's not entirely much point, is there? It's not good to have members just for the sake of having members.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Somebody on November 01, 2010, 04:38:44 PM
I'm glad that the Junk Yard is invisible to non-members. Keeps out people who just join for story time.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 01, 2010, 04:41:28 PM
Yeah, you're still going to get a lot of other people come here due to interest in the game though (like me!!! :bigsmile:)
And I think kujji was going to start posting bots soon by the sounds of things, if friends of forum members come on here, chances are they'll try out the game eventually, and thankfully it's a decent enough game for them to get hooked on it.
I'm glad that the Junk Yard is now to outside users. Keeps out people who just join for story time.
People join for story time?!?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scrap Daddy on November 01, 2010, 09:01:13 PM
you guys need to stop getting your friends to join a forum for a game THEY DON'T HAVE.
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Post by: Somebody on November 01, 2010, 09:05:38 PM
^^Agreed^^

And I remember someone named Jade or something who just joined for story time.
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Post by: Natef on November 01, 2010, 09:06:28 PM
I agree with SD.
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Post by: ACAMS on November 01, 2010, 09:08:44 PM
Nayrar is the problem......BAN!!!!!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Natef on November 01, 2010, 09:10:12 PM

Yes, friends joining for the sake of being here isn't always best, but, at least in my case, I am currently working on figuring out the game, and will eventually post a bot when I am satisfied with it (I'm a perfectionist), so you'll see me contribute something other then rubble and colored text soon : )


Good to hear!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scrap Daddy on November 01, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
Nayrar is the problem......BAN!!!!!
Agreedlollolololol i love you nar
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 02, 2010, 01:50:20 AM

Yes, friends joining for the sake of being here isn't always best, but, at least in my case, I am currently working on figuring out the game, and will eventually post a bot when I am satisfied with it (I'm a perfectionist), so you'll see me contribute something other then rubble and colored text soon : )

Glad to hear that. I don't know why it is, but I thought you were a female when you first arrived. Might be the similarities to SotG.
 
But once you've got a few bots up, taken the forum's advice on board (Don't pull a Sparkey), you'll get your bots better and better.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Dexterhunter on November 02, 2010, 03:54:09 AM
I don't feel the need to explain myself. I might be taking an extended leave again soon, and theirs a possibility I might not be coming back.
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Post by: Naryar on November 02, 2010, 07:32:42 AM
Nayrar is the problem......BAN!!!!!

Y'know, I am wondering why am I always the butt end of your banning jokes...

lollolololol i love you nar

Fine. Just don't make this look gay.


Yes, friends joining for the sake of being here isn't always best, but, at least in my case, I am currently working on figuring out the game, and will eventually post a bot when I am satisfied with it (I'm a perfectionist), so you'll see me contribute something other then rubble and colored text soon : )

Yes. Maybe. But for now, all that you are doing is spending your time in the playground...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 02, 2010, 07:58:02 AM
I remember when I first joined, the junkyard was so much smaller and had a "new post" icon show up like 3 times a week when I first checked the site every afternoon.

community is in a downfall I have to agree, but I am still grateful its here I guess, I dont think I could walk away from it though tempted at times.

I honestly didn't want to be a Moderator as much as I lead on after quitting being the tournament one, the reason I asked ACAMS for the job was to help organize and improve this place, I think most of my efforts have been pointless and made me less liked but cant say I didnt try.... 
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 02, 2010, 09:12:27 AM
you guys need to stop getting your friends to join a forum for a game THEY DON'T HAVE.

Hey, I joined even though I don't have the game (FFFFFFFUUUUUU-), but I would like to think that I am a respected part of this community...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Naryar on November 02, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
I think most of my efforts have been pointless and made me less liked but cant say I didnt try.... 

WHY SO EMO
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 02, 2010, 09:58:11 AM
Not emo at all, thats just how you read it, Its true, I tried to improve the forum but its pretty much the same. Hard for one person to make a dramatic change, I still always work at it though.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Naryar on November 02, 2010, 10:03:11 AM
What ? You can't complain, why there are still people of disputable intellect here and there always will be, there are no more silly n00bs ruining the RA2 part of the forum like that was back in the Sparkey/LRA2 era.

The forums are quite peaceful right now.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Thyrus on November 02, 2010, 11:20:47 AM
may it`s because a gear is broken. Or you just wire that spinnermotor. But the first is the better guess. And please change your textcolor. It`s burning my eyes.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: kill343gs on November 02, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
People tend to get bored of the same old game all the time, and thus off topic things tend to be brought up. Be happy it's in here now instead of in the main part of the forum like it used to be back in the day.

This is also accented by the much larger community we have now.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 02, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
You know, since the playground seems to be the cause of the most dispute regarding forum quality....

...you could always get rid of it  :evilsmile:

Hmmm, to post troll face or not...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Hydro on November 02, 2010, 12:33:37 PM
*threatens Scorpion with a sharpened onion*
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Velocity EVO on November 02, 2010, 12:35:02 PM
Nayrar is the problem......BAN!!!!!

I 2nd that  :ban_smily:
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Natef on November 02, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
You know, since the playground seems to be the cause of the most dispute regarding forum quality....

...you could always get rid of it  :evilsmile:

Hmmm, to post troll face or not...


If that happens, I may leave.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on November 02, 2010, 12:43:20 PM
You know, since the playground seems to be the cause of the most dispute regarding forum quality....

...you could always get rid of it  :evilsmile:

Hmmm, to post troll face or not...


If that happens, I may leave.
Same here, actually.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 02, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
*threatens Scorpion with a sharpened onion*
Don't point that onion at me!
I'm inparcial to it actually, although I wouldn't want people to leave because it was closed.

I was just mentioning it, more because I wanted to see different peoples reactions...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 02, 2010, 01:20:04 PM
i wonder, why is everybody having a problem with coloured text? i have no trouble with it at all.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Little lost bot on November 02, 2010, 02:02:07 PM
For some it a case of only using it to make a point. Others it can hurt there eyes do to brightness, background ect.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 02, 2010, 02:38:08 PM
maybe, i just use the standard white background, no problem reading it.

this colour can be very annoying on a white background.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Vertigo on November 02, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
colout?
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Post by: Serge on November 02, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
This community is starting to suck.

I actually agree.

*slowly migrates to facepunch*
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 03:49:03 PM
I still think the comunity needs to expand it's horizons into other forums. Like something awful, gearbox, etc.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: System32 on November 02, 2010, 03:53:39 PM
This community is starting to suck.

I actually agree.

*slowly migrates to facepunch*

This whole community has been an Enemy Mine (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnemyMine) of epic proportions from the start and that makes it suck but it also makes it fun! We have trolls trolling people who are awesome at the game and hellbent on teaching (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHavingFunGuys), a neo-nazi running a ragtag forum of euro-liberals and republicans and newbies of all shapes and sizes. Furries, RPers and 4chan wannabies all bunched up in a room where they have to get along.
 
God, I wouldn't change this for anything.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Natef on November 02, 2010, 03:57:32 PM
Wow, I've never seen the forum in that way before!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on November 02, 2010, 03:59:43 PM
This community is starting to suck.

I actually agree.

*slowly migrates to facepunch*

This whole community has been an Enemy Mine (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnemyMine) of epic proportions from the start and that makes it suck but it also makes it fun! We have trolls trolling people who are awesome at the game and hellbent on teaching (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHavingFunGuys), a neo-nazi running a ragtag forum of euro-liberals and republicans and newbies of all shapes and sizes. Furries, RPers and 4chan wannabies all bunched up in a room where they have to get along.
 
God, I wouldn't change this for anything.
:gunz:  GF93-APPROVED COMMENT  :gunz:
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Jonzu95 on November 02, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
System, You just won the Thread. :approve:
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Post by: S.T.C. on November 02, 2010, 04:16:04 PM

I still think the comunity needs to expand it's horizons into other forums. Like something awful, gearbox, etc.
And by that you mean?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 04:21:21 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3
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Post by: Scorpion on November 02, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3
=???=Profit!

You mean advertising this forum basically on other forums then?
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Post by: G.K. on November 02, 2010, 04:27:34 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3

Explain.
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Post by: GoldenFox93 on November 02, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx-97uRkzRg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx-97uRkzRg#)
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 02, 2010, 04:34:15 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3

More forums => More Players, that I understand

More Players => RA3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14#ws)
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Zog on November 02, 2010, 04:38:31 PM
I'm surprised that their is a forum about a 7 year old game about a sport which hardly anyone plays anymore.


If we lose members such as yourself, Dexterhunter, then it may be the end of RA2 for everyone.


Can you imagine life without BBEANS? Answer me that.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 04:42:51 PM
More Forums=more players=RA3

More forums => More Players, that I understand

More Players => RA3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14#ws)

Well I know RA2 used to be pretty big on SA, we could try there.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: S.T.C. on November 02, 2010, 04:48:07 PM
USED to. Honestly, I can't help but see that not doing much help.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
This community is starting to suck.

I actually agree.

*slowly migrates to facepunch*

*slowly migrates to gearbox*
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Hydro on November 02, 2010, 05:03:42 PM
This community is starting to suck.

I actually agree.

*slowly migrates to facepunch*

*slowly migrates to gearbox*
*slowly stays here*
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 02, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
TBH, does it matter if dexterhunter leaves?
Yes, I know he'll have helped the community a lot in the past, but if all he's going to do is post vague complaints that he doesn't like the community anymore rather than try to help improve the community, there's not much anybody can do really apart from say good bye.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Dexterhunter on November 02, 2010, 06:58:03 PM
Who knows, maybe we pushed this game to its limit. Its probably only downhill from here.
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Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
I votes boarderlands/mindcraft/gbots for replacment

Now that I think about it, what if everyone of the *major* (vets and older users like me) combined our efforts, made a company, and our own game?
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Post by: ACAMS on November 02, 2010, 07:05:06 PM
OK, we will be right behind you!
 
 
 
 
P.S : You can take the Cool Person Test in my sig!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 07:06:09 PM
I votes boarderlands/mindcraft/gbots for replacment

Now that I think about it, what if everyone of the *major* (vets and older users like me) combined our efforts, made a company, and our own game?

we could do this.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Noodle on November 02, 2010, 07:14:41 PM
I'd really hate see this community disintegrate.  It has been hands down the best I've been part of in my time on the internet.  Yeah I've got places to go should this community fall through,  but I'd rather not see that happen.

If someone thinks we ought to broaden our horizons to other games, I think Garry's Mod would be our best bet.  It's the only mainstream game that comes anywhere close to the concept of RA2.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Enigm@ on November 02, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
I like Noodle's idea.
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Post by: FOTEPX on November 02, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
Listen, all we need is a rejuvination of this whole website. We've been hanging onto RA2 for 5 years, what we need is RA3. All we need is some seriously clever coders to code a new, fresh and sweet RA3! But, if that cannot be done, I'm fine with moving to Garry's Mod.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: FOTEPX on November 02, 2010, 07:28:56 PM
DP

Time to see which one people really want.

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5105.msg234075.html#msg234075 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,5105.msg234075.html#msg234075)
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Badnik96 on November 02, 2010, 07:40:35 PM
Agree with Noodle, we need an RA3!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 07:43:11 PM
I votes boarderlands/mindcraft/gbots for replacment

Now that I think about it, what if everyone of the *major* (vets and older users like me) combined our efforts, made a company, and our own game?

we could do this.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: System32 on November 02, 2010, 07:53:28 PM
I think we should just expand into unique and balanced modding for several games, new and old.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 02, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
I know for one I skin in other games  :gawe:
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 02, 2010, 08:01:36 PM
same here.
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Post by: Natef on November 02, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
I do not want to see this forum crumble!
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Post by: Enigm@ on November 02, 2010, 08:04:46 PM
Neither do I D: I joined like a month ago!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Natef on November 02, 2010, 08:12:49 PM
If the forum dies, the internet will seem over to me.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 02, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
Agree with Noodle, we need an RA3!

honestly I have explored a lot of RA2 and you can make things quite different.

the one problem that stops mass gameplay differences in this game is making "unofficial rules" remember I tried with Backlash to make the game different but nobody wanted to follow.

so that comes part with advancing, it they were forced to follow there wouldn't be so much of a problem but the preference with a lot of people it sticking with the same.

also exploring more like what Giga used for RA2GE, outside involvement in the game, again I am trying this with Backlash and the console but your could take it further like Giga did..

the problem I have is people are getting into conflicts a lot, just starting stuff for no reason. Almost like people are getting restless. I have even got into more conflicts then before.

I have have a lot of stress in the outside world right now (or rather this whole year) so dont mind me if something is out of place or I am mentioning more rubbish  :gawe:

If the forum dies, the internet will seem over to me.

I have to agree, I dont do much else on the internet daily aside from this forum and another,
 
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on November 02, 2010, 08:29:41 PM
If the forum dies, the internet will seem over to me.
I hope this does not happen. I have already seen RCT2 forums vanish to almost nothing and some RCT3 forums are following. Because I have never got a chance to even release some of my RCT2 modded rides.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: FOTEPX on November 02, 2010, 08:52:59 PM
Well I'm making GTM RPG, so this thing can't die! If it does, I'll have no inspiration!
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Post by: MassimoV on November 02, 2010, 09:04:25 PM
Neither do I D: I joined like a month ago!
Same here.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Urjak on November 02, 2010, 09:47:46 PM
This forum is fine the way it is in my opinion. If it dies, then it dies. We should not "expand our horizons." This is an RA2 forum, and it should remain and RA2 forum. Expanding it to other games will not do RA2 any good, it will just take a back seat to the more popular games. We should just enjoy these forums while they last, not complain about them like Dexterhunter is. The members of this forum will change over time, they may be more immature and more offtopic. That really doesn't matter. As long as people still love to play RA2, then this forum will survive in one form or another.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: kill343gs on November 02, 2010, 10:10:32 PM
Expand to other games? This forum has enough sections as it is!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 03, 2010, 12:38:40 AM
This forum is fine the way it is in my opinion. If it dies, then it dies. We should not "expand our horizons." This is an RA2 forum, and it should remain and RA2 forum. Expanding it to other games will not do RA2 any good, it will just take a back seat to the more popular games. We should just enjoy these forums while they last, not complain about them like Dexterhunter is. The members of this forum will change over time, they may be more immature and more offtopic. That really doesn't matter. As long as people still love to play RA2, then this forum will survive in one form or another.

+1
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Dexterhunter on November 03, 2010, 01:54:32 AM
...not complain about them like Dexterhunter is.

*cough*

No-one exactly contributes in prolonging this game anymore. Sure, people still contribute by: showcases, posting, and signing up for tournaments. But how long will that last? No-one is coming up with anything new, their is to little incentive to actually invest time in the game now.  Is it not easily to say that we pushed this game to its limit? We can only draw so much blood from a stone..

I can easily see the age of Robot Arena coming to an end.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 02:14:22 AM
...not complain about them like Dexterhunter is.

*cough*

No-one exactly contributes in prolonging this game anymore. Sure, people still contribute by: showcases, posting, and signing up for tournaments. But how long will that last? No-one is coming up with anything new, their is to little incentive to actually invest time in the game now.  Is it not easily to say that we pushed this game to its limit? We can only draw so much blood from a stone..

I can easily see the age of Robot Arena coming to an end.
So I guess joeblo and backlash can go suck a lemon then?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 03, 2010, 02:24:42 AM
I dont like Lemons  :gawe:
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 02:28:32 AM
I dont like Lemons  :gawe:
Tch, everybody likes lemons!

And, you know, has anybody tried contacting the makers of the game?
I know it's a slim shot, but there's a surprisinng amount of people here, plus we could always get other people who remember battlebots or RW in a fond light to email them aswell...
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Zog on November 03, 2010, 02:33:52 AM
OK, everyone, listen:


You're lucky that their is even a community to this game. Sure, we got people spamming the off topic section with pointless threads, but almost all of them still play RA2. If we lose members of this community, then the forum is certain to go down.
Do you know why I joined the forums? Because I wanted to. Because I enjoy this game.
If you find the off-topic section annoying, then just ignore it, and continue posting in the main body of the forum. If you want this forum and game to die by creating RA3, then fine, go ahead, because their still will be a small number of us who will still play RA2.


That is all.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: ACAMS on November 03, 2010, 02:35:16 AM

And, you know, has anybody tried contacting the makers of the game?

HUNDREDS, may THOUSANDS of times.......It took me nearly a year with weekly unanswered emails for them to do the 1.3 patch to fix the nVidia problem. HELL, I bought an ATI card so I could play!
 
 
It is best just to leave them alone and find other ways to do what you want to do!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 03, 2010, 02:54:47 AM
It is best just to leave them alone and find other ways to do what you want to do!

yup, they made it pretty clear they dont care about this game anymore.

also original makers team has moved on, the company brought out, etc.

thank goodness they left the files so open..
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 03, 2010, 08:39:44 AM
No-one exactly contributes in prolonging this game anymore. But how long will that last? No-one is coming up with anything new, their is to little incentive to actually invest time in the game now.

So, in your logic, Backlash, DSL 3 & Rocket Jets are nothing new.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 03, 2010, 09:17:32 AM
*goes to release Stock RA2 with the .exe renamed to Backlash*

Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: System32 on November 03, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
This forum is fine the way it is in my opinion. If it dies, then it dies. We should not "expand our horizons."
Opinion.
 
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This is an RA2 forum, and it should remain and RA2 forum. Expanding it to other games will not do RA2 any good, it will just take a back seat to the more popular games.

Faiiling to regard the 2 major mods before DSL and the fact that DSL itself was just a mod compliation and balancing pack for hardcore builders, you are right. we are taking a back seat if we do, but isn't that what DSL is? A mod that took a backseat and grew into the most realistic robot combat simulation ever?
 
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We should just enjoy these forums while they last, not complain about them like Dexterhunter is. The members of this forum will change over time, they may be more immature and more offtopic.

I agree and disagree. Pointless complaints are pointless, but some of them are actually for the better. (See my rant at the start.)
 
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That really doesn't matter. As long as people still love to play RA2, then this forum will survive in one form or another.
For how long? how long before the next set of PC's makes this game unplayable? how long before the last disc is destroyed? How long before the last torrent is taken down?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 03, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
I just say if Ra2 dies out we should keep the forum for all things building games, so we still have a comunity.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 01:48:07 PM
I just say if Ra2 dies out we should keep the forum for all things building games, so we still have a comunity.
I get what you mean, it's a good community here, even in the short amount of time i've been here i can tell that's obvious, but I don't think RA2 is going to "die out" for some while yet.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 03, 2010, 01:50:23 PM
I still think all the major modders could combine there skills and make a spiritual succsessor.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 03, 2010, 01:52:19 PM
I still think all the major modders could combine there skills and make a spiritual succsessor.

I've been working on a 3d engine adequate for our goal for some time now. More of a long-term project though.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 01:55:43 PM
I still think all the major modders could combine there skills and make a spiritual succsessor.
Yes, they probably could.
It's their choice whether they want to partake in such a project, but yeah, they'd certainly have the community behind them to complete it.

Edit:
I've been working on a 3d engine adequate for our goal for some time now. More of a long-term project though.
Oh really, that's very cool.
Like I said, if you wanted to make it more open the rest of the community would probably be able to help someway or another.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 03, 2010, 01:59:13 PM
wouldn't it be possible for the one's who now own the rights and such for the game to just pass it on? i mean, giving the right of the game and the source code to people here like Acams  and Serge. they aren't going to do anything with this game, and surely they also don't care about it, so why not pass it on to someone who does care?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 03, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
They also make other games to this day. lets just move on to john dear farming
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 02:02:48 PM
wouldn't it be possible for the one's who now own the rights and such for the game to just pass it on? i mean, giving the right of the game and the source code to people here like Acams  and Serge. they aren't going to do anything with this game, and surely they also don't care about it, so why not pass it on to someone who does care?
Hmmm, good point, although that will still probably cost them a little bit (community fund perhaps?), asweell as possible legal palavor.
Besides, the source code would be of very limited use as the game would need a new engine to be even slightly up to date.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 03, 2010, 02:03:49 PM
true true, but atleast it would get us a bit further... i think.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 03, 2010, 02:05:48 PM
wouldn't it be possible for the one's who now own the rights and such for the game to just pass it on? i mean, giving the right of the game and the source code to people here like Acams  and Serge. they aren't going to do anything with this game, and surely they also don't care about it, so why not pass it on to someone who does care?

Been there, done that. GI won't hand out the code because

That, and making a good successor would actually require a brand new engine, not the sh**ty one from RA2. Other wise we end up with RA2 and 1/3.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 02:12:44 PM
Yeah as I said then, but i'm not buying that BS about still getting money from it.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Little lost bot on November 03, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
And even if they don't get money still they did get money off of it there for there greedy (insert your own word) who don't want any one else to get cash from it.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 03, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
Me neither, but I don't really blame them for not sharing the code. They signed agreements with the people that coded it, and unless those people agree, the code is not being released any time soon.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on November 03, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
wouldn't it be possible for the one's who now own the rights and such for the game to just pass it on? i mean, giving the right of the game and the source code to people here like Acams  and Serge. they aren't going to do anything with this game, and surely they also don't care about it, so why not pass it on to someone who does care?

Been there, done that. GI won't hand out the code because
   
  • They apparently still get monies from it
  • It contains proprietary code over which they don't have control (like Havok)
 
That, and making a good successor would actually require a brand new engine, not the sh**ty one from RA2. Other wise we end up with RA2 and 1/3.
Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Serge on November 03, 2010, 02:24:27 PM
Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?

Right now it's called Potato. (http://i.imgur.com/5F8a5.gif)

(http://imgur.com/mBlNt.png)

Probably a code name. Just like my homebrewed OS kernel is called Asparagus and my GUI toolkit is called Pumpkin.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 03, 2010, 02:27:31 PM
Um...concerning this problem over 'community fail', why not expand the areas of focus on this forum? Why not add another game of interest? It would spread out problems such as trolls, as well as giving more areas for dedicated users to post.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 03, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
I think if we make a spiritual succsessor it should be 100% compatible


Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?

Right now it's called Potato. (http://i.imgur.com/5F8a5.gif)

(http://imgur.com/mBlNt.png)

Probably a code name. Just like my homebrewed OS kernel is called Asparagus and my GUI toolkit is called Pumpkin.

Reminds me of when I was gonna try to make an engine paint game sandbox thing called Capricorncob
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 03, 2010, 03:45:44 PM
I think if we make a spiritual succsessor it should be 100% compatible

With what? Sausages?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 03, 2010, 04:01:06 PM
I think he means you should be able to import/export RA2 bots into "RA3".
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Post by: Badnik96 on November 03, 2010, 04:02:14 PM
I totally agree.
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Post by: Enigm@ on November 03, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
Dat would be coo' dawg.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 03, 2010, 04:03:39 PM
Yes, or else patato arena would be a totally different game. EVERYHTING needs to be portable.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
Yeah, that would be cool, completely impossible if you were making a proper up to date game though.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Urjak on November 03, 2010, 05:16:56 PM
This forum is fine the way it is in my opinion. If it dies, then it dies. We should not "expand our horizons."
Opinion.


Yes indeed it is. I do give reason for my opinion though.
 
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This is an RA2 forum, and it should remain and RA2 forum. Expanding it to other games will not do RA2 any good, it will just take a back seat to the more popular games.

Faiiling to regard the 2 major mods before DSL and the fact that DSL itself was just a mod compliation and balancing pack for hardcore builders, you are right. we are taking a back seat if we do, but isn't that what DSL is? A mod that took a backseat and grew into the most realistic robot combat simulation ever?


What I mean is that if this forum becomes dedicated to a second game (say Starcraft 2 for instance), I could see RA2 taking a back seat to it, as in more people will join the forums for that and not RA2 (Starcraft 2 is more popular). While you are correct in saying that DSL went from a minor mod, and grew to be even more popular than stock, it is still RA2, just changed slightly.
 
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We should just enjoy these forums while they last, not complain about them like Dexterhunter is. The members of this forum will change over time, they may be more immature and more offtopic.

I agree and disagree. Pointless complaints are pointless, but some of them are actually for the better. (See my rant at the start.)


I agree that some complaints (those that]address specific issues and attempt to fix something wrong) can be [/size]valuable[/color]. However blanket remarks like, "this community is starting to suck" tend not to do much.

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That really doesn't matter. As long as people still love to play RA2, then this forum will survive in one form or another.
For how long? how long before the next set of PC's makes this game unplayable? how long before the last disc is destroyed? How long before the last torrent is taken down?

[/size]I see your point. I for one will try to keep RA2 around forever (utilizing older computers and virtual machines to maintain it as long as possible. Someday this forum will probably day, but I believe that a community (not necessarily gametechmods) will survive for a long time.

Just thought this deserved a reply.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: System32 on November 03, 2010, 06:03:53 PM
Bah, your stupid syntax failure is messing my quotes up dammit!
 
Anyway, I was assuming we would just be piggybacking other games or be some sort of sell-out.
 
Truthfully, RA2 will usually be a major part of this forum, all the other mods would just be for attention, as in "HEY PEOPLE WE MAKE MODS FOR GAMES LIKE ROBOT ARENA 2 AND THAT ONE FREEWARE ONE MADE IN 02!!!".
 
You pretty much stated what I mean on criticism.
 
RA2 isn't going to die easily if we try.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 03, 2010, 11:30:13 PM
They apparently still get monies from it

Hell we can all put in and buy the thing, they will probably make more money then what they have in the last year "selling" it.

66% of the RA2 playing members come for DSL anyway....
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Velocity EVO on November 04, 2010, 11:39:40 AM
Agree with Noodle, we need an RA3!

Shall we contact the guys who made it and negotiate an RA3 cos mods and upgrades onto RA2 is one thing, but wiping the RA2 slate and making a 3rd completely from scratch is another, to make the 3rd we'd have to be 100% commited to the project.

Just my say on the matter
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scorpion on November 04, 2010, 11:46:36 AM
Agree with Noodle, we need an RA3!

Shall we contact the guys who made it and negotiate an RA3 cos mods and upgrades onto RA2 is one thing, but wiping the RA2 slate and making a 3rd completely from scratch is another, to make the 3rd we'd have to be 100% commited to the project.

Just my say on the matter
Not going to happen, sorry.

They apparently still get monies from it

Hell we can all put in and buy the thing, they will probably make more money then what they have in the last year "selling" it.

66% of the RA2 playing members come for DSL anyway....
Yeah, I know, the thing about licenses for things like the havok engine is a problem though, I think the'd have to remove parts like that from the coding even if they did give us all their code for RA2.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Sparkey98 on November 04, 2010, 01:40:26 PM
I think if we make a spiritual succsessor it should be 100% compatible


Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?

Right now it's called Potato. (http://i.imgur.com/5F8a5.gif)

(http://imgur.com/mBlNt.png)

Probably a code name. Just like my homebrewed OS kernel is called Asparagus and my GUI toolkit is called Pumpkin.

Reminds me of when I was gonna try to make an engine paint game sandbox thing called Capricorncob

Paint game engine? oh yes

Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on November 04, 2010, 01:45:41 PM
Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?

Right now it's called Potato. (http://i.imgur.com/5F8a5.gif)

(http://imgur.com/mBlNt.png)

Probably a code name. Just like my homebrewed OS kernel is called Asparagus and my GUI toolkit is called Pumpkin.
Hm, clever! Likewise, it'll be interesting to see if something comes out of it   :approve:
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 04, 2010, 02:01:49 PM
I think if we make a spiritual succsessor it should be 100% compatible


Name recommendation for the new Engine- Razortip Engine?

Right now it's called Potato. (http://i.imgur.com/5F8a5.gif)


Probably a code name. Just like my homebrewed OS kernel is called Asparagus and my GUI toolkit is called Pumpkin.

Reminds me of when I was gonna try to make an engine paint game sandbox thing called Capricorncob

Paint game engine? oh yes


wat
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Little lost bot on November 04, 2010, 02:03:26 PM
Kinda have to agree with you ^^
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Post by: Gazea2 on November 04, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
I see no need for an RA3 OR another game for this forum. This community is for RA2. This is why we are here. We all love robotic combat and this game is the best one ever made. If this community dies, then so be it. Glory be the days of GTM.

Although an RA3 would be good, I honestly don't see it happening. GI aren't going to make one and Serge has a life outside of all of his coding work. RA2Hooks will be the closest thing that we will get to an RA3 in my opinion. (By the way, great work Serge. ;))

Enjoy GTM whilst it is here. You will never find another kind and caring community on the internet like this one. Take your criticism elsewhere and enjoy GTM!
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: J24 on November 04, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
I see no need for an RA3 OR another game for this forum. This community is for RA2. This is why we are here. We all love robotic combat and this game is the best one ever made. If this community dies, then so be it. Glory be the days of GTM.

Although an RA3 would be good, I honestly don't see it happening. GI aren't going to make one and Serge has a life outside of all of his coding work. RA2Hooks will be the closest thing that we will get to an RA3 in my opinion. (By the way, great work Serge. ;))

Enjoy GTM whilst it is here. You will never find another kind and caring community on the internet like this one. Take your criticism elsewhere and enjoy GTM!

QFT
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Post by: Natef on November 04, 2010, 03:46:19 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 04, 2010, 04:01:52 PM
if this community were to die. i would just want to start a new RA2 community. maybe useless, but really. i want this to stay alive.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Naryar on November 05, 2010, 04:40:13 AM
You will never find another kind and caring community on the internet like this one.

What ? We are the most kind and caring community of the internet ?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 05, 2010, 04:47:15 AM
Well, there's much fewer trolls on the boards than other forums for the members we have. Generally, people seem to get along fairly well, and if there is a massive argument about something, the mods are normally quite quick to step in. Otherwise the flame war SotG's into a spam thread, and everyone's relatively happy again.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 05, 2010, 05:36:59 AM
You will never find another kind and caring community on the internet like this one.

I know of one :P

but dont worry I love this site just as much
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 07, 2010, 04:32:52 PM
I see no need for an RA3 OR another game for this forum. This community is for RA2. This is why we are here. We all love robotic combat and this game is the best one ever made. If this community dies, then so be it. Glory be the days of GTM.

Although an RA3 would be good, I honestly don't see it happening. GI aren't going to make one and Serge has a life outside of all of his coding work. RA2Hooks will be the closest thing that we will get to an RA3 in my opinion. (By the way, great work Serge. ;))

Enjoy GTM whilst it is here. You will never find another kind and caring community on the internet like this one. Take your criticism elsewhere and enjoy GTM!

Um...

Um...concerning this problem over 'community fail', why not expand the areas of focus on this forum? Why not add another game of interest? It would spread out problems such as trolls, as well as giving more areas for dedicated users to post.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 07, 2010, 04:37:09 PM
There is no community fail. This was sparkled by sparkey being a moron.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 07, 2010, 04:42:59 PM
Well...let's face it - the horrizons of this forum are as thick as a flea's nose-hair. We need a larger focus for the forums.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 07, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
Well...let's face it - the horrizons of this forum are as thick as a flea's nose-hair. We need a larger focus for the forums.

I'll have to beg to differ on that point.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 07, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
IIRC, one of the main problems was the Playground. This is because it is one of the only places on this forum not restricted to talking about RA2. This could become a lesser problem if another (for example) game or something was made one of the main interests.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Urjak on November 07, 2010, 06:32:38 PM
This could become a lesser problem if another (for example) game or something was made one of the main interests.


This is an RA2 forum. If RA2 dies, this forum should die with it.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Scrap Daddy on November 07, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
We don't need more members, we need less stupid ones.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Somebody on November 07, 2010, 08:42:38 PM
Without RA2, the forum dies. Without the forum, RA2 dies.

And if we started to attract people of another game, people would come for that, less would come for RA2, many experienced members would leave because they "hate the direction the forum is heading in", and the RA2 forums would either move or die completely.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: ACAMS on November 07, 2010, 09:53:58 PM
 :rob1 :rob1
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Post by: kill343gs on November 07, 2010, 09:55:53 PM
Without RA2, the forum dies. Without the forum, RA2 dies.

And if we started to attract people of another game, people would come for that, less would come for RA2, many experienced members would leave because they "hate the direction the forum is heading in", and the RA2 forums would either move or die completely.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Naryar on November 08, 2010, 03:23:57 AM
We don't need more members, we need less stupid ones.

Agree with this 100%
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Dexterhunter on November 08, 2010, 03:28:50 AM
Okay, simple little observation.

Why does everyone do piggyback posts now? Prime example would be the two above posts; just quoting a post that you agree with and or saying
"I agree with X". Probably doesn't matter much, buts its been irking me for some time now.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 08, 2010, 04:31:23 AM
I think it's the "Quoted For Truth" rule, if more and more people agree with something, then it eventually becomes fact. Which is wrong in and of itself, facts are only correct for the data that we have. The moment we find something that disproves it, it's no longer a fact.

There are always going to be people making excellent posts which state a valid point, and there are always going to be people quoting it and saying "QFT" with very little elaboration, but most of the time that's simply because the previous post had already explained everything so well. It's just a way of showing approval of it, I guess.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 08, 2010, 06:25:43 AM
your saying introduce other games because RA2 is dieing, right?

would that kill it off faster by reducing the activity in the RA2 sections?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 08, 2010, 07:44:33 AM
NONONO! If you read it again and take note of what I'm saying, you'll realise that I am solving the problem put forward. Playground is getting too crowded because they are otherwise restricted to RA2. This could be remedied by taking the most popular subject and forming into another main interest of GTM, and thus spreading out the problem! :P
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: G.K. on November 08, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
No, I think you've missed the point. Joe and SB are right.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: Incredirobotwars on November 08, 2010, 07:59:15 AM
wut?
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 08, 2010, 09:16:24 AM
Yeah, Somebody pretty much hit the nail on the head right there, I'm afraid. A second game would only split the forum even more, and I'm pretty sure no-one would want that to happen.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: JoeBlo on November 08, 2010, 09:18:45 AM
A second game would only split the forum even more,

Stock vs DSL vs My Little Pony Adventure Game?

Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: NFX on November 08, 2010, 09:22:10 AM
A second game would only split the forum even more,

Stock vs DSL vs My Little Pony Adventure Game?
...you have given me mental images I did not want.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: powerrave on November 08, 2010, 09:52:30 AM
that... i did not want to read =[
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Post by: frezal on November 08, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
It won't matter when this place eventually shuts down. You'll just have to move on with your life.
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Post by: Enigm@ on November 08, 2010, 05:24:58 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Hmm.
Post by: kill343gs on November 08, 2010, 08:22:37 PM
Okay, simple little observation.

Why does everyone do piggyback posts now? Prime example would be the two above posts; just quoting a post that you agree with and or saying
"I agree with X". Probably doesn't matter much, buts its been irking me for some time now.

If I honestly tried to explain my viewpoint or elaborate any further, my post would still have been exactly the same. I'm not from the redundancy department of redundancy here...

Besides, this is off topic so nothing posted here really matters.