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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: Jonzu95 on April 02, 2014, 08:32:41 AM
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my teacher of maths taught me that zeno talked of a turtle taking half step each time and never reaching destination, as well did my father a mathematician, this is the concept of limit
zeno never said this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes)
this paradox is a mixture of the turtle and achiles race and dichotomy
the race says that achiles gives 100 m advantage to a turtle that goes half his speed, when he reaches the point where the turtle was last it will have an adavantage of 50 m, when it reaches the next point it will be 25, always a half being achiles unable to pass the turtle
dichotomy says you cant even start since if you want to move a milimiter youll have to run first half then half of half and so on so you cant even run that milimiter
zeno wanted to prove witth this paradoxes that motion was an ilusion
so from paradoxes that want to prove reality is an illusion somebody decided to take zenos name and make the turtle that take half steps paradox that shows that the world is perfct, exactly the opposite to zenos intention
what id like to know is if you have been taught as me the paradox of the tortoise taking half steps each time?
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I can't remember exactly who it was but I think it was David O'Doherty had an argument with a teacher at his school about a frog that jumped half each time, saying "Surely it would get to a point where it can just drag itself the rest of the way."
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i want to eat that turtle
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If you are running at a constant speed, than your distance is written as a linear equation; not an exponential one.
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iunno jonzu, Maybe you can find your answer in the thread you copypasta'd that from. (https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=26656)
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Hey Jonzu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plW6YgQuKeg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plW6YgQuKeg#)
Tries to act smart then fails miserably.
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u sound like one of those philosophy majors i see on campus who think they're smartr than everyone because they can quote nieztche and aristotle.
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iunno jonzu, Maybe you can find your answer in the thread you copypasta'd that from. (https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=26656)
huehuehue
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The problem can be solved with calculus. It's a limit problem that ends up equalling 1, proving that an infinite number of half steps can still make a whole. I'd actually try to solve it out, but not right now. Basically, it was only a paradox because Calculus hadn't been invented yet.
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^This is true, however the answer may end up being 2 steps depending on if the turtle took a whole step first and halved it from there or did a half step first and then continued.
A simple way to think of this is cutting a piece of paper in half, then one of those halves in half, etc, you can keep halving forever but everything would still add up to 1 sheet.
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simple enough, the problem takes as an hypothesis that Achilles runs at a decreasing speed through the race when he really has no reason to do so.
and this intends us to fail to take into account initial speed AND instant speed as well.
And ****, a turtle half as fast as Achilles must be on rocket boosters or something.
tl;dr it doesn't prove anything, it is merely faux scientific trolling
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lol math
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lol math
but it's clearly maths, unless you murricans take mathematic.