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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: courthousedoc on September 12, 2009, 08:11:26 PM

Title: Flame wars
Post by: courthousedoc on September 12, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
Guys I have became disturbed by the amount of flame wars going on lately. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. I do not want this place to be torn apart by flame wars. So please everyone think twice before blasting somone.
Title: Whattttttttttt
Post by: Viper89 on September 12, 2009, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: courthousedoc;65732
Guys I have became disturbed by the amount of flame wars going on lately. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. I do not want this place to be torn apart by flame wars. So please everyone think twice before blasting somone.


Stop smoking and posting it's bad for your health lol. What flame wars??? if there were flame wars and if they were out of control the moderators would of already dealt with them. And who cares anyway if they are flame wars, they are hilarious( they always give me a good laugh;)). Threads like this ^^^^^:nope:.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 08:41:38 PM
Well I wouldn't know about flame wars, but yeah, there have been a lot of arguments lately.  And some of those arguments have come close to and probably even have erupted into flame wars.  Why are you so prone to arguing when stuff like LRA2, crawlers, and BFE come into play of the discussion?  Can't we just ignore them and continue having a normal discussion?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Natef on September 12, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
The only flame wars I remember were the ones in BBEANS 5 thread and Story Time. I agree, we must stop the flame wars!
Title: Flame wars
Post by: roboman2444 on September 12, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
i get blasted a lot by inf and sys32.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: Natef;65741
The only flame wars I remember were the ones in BBEANS 5 thread and Story Time.

What about the feud in the Doomed Bots thread between Inf and S32?  Oh wait.. they're always fighting :P
Title: Flame wars
Post by: trumpetguy on September 12, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
Wasn't there a flame war n that tournament?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 09:45:40 PM
That's what I'm saying.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Scrap Daddy on September 12, 2009, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: The Ounce;65736
Well I wouldn't know about flame wars, but yeah, there have been a lot of arguments lately.  And some of those arguments have come close to and probably even have erupted into flame wars.  Why are you so prone to arguing when stuff like LRA2, crawlers, and BFE come into play of the discussion?  Can't we just ignore them and continue having a normal discussion?


We CAN'T just ignore those things. LRA2 is a spamming idiot and it's beyond me why the hell he hasn't been banned yet, crawlers are cheap and everyone knows it, and bot file editing will ruin stock if people keep using it. So if you want that bullsh** to be going on without anyone saying anything against it, fine, we all should be butt buddies with LRA2, enter crawlers in every tournament, and stack 4 blacks and a CB just because its been done before.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 10:07:04 PM
Let me rephrase what I'm trying to say.

If we can't ignore them, can't we just try to deal with them in a more peaceful manner?

Oh wait... no, because you all are so intolerant and love to argue so much it's virtually impossible to keep peace in this community.

... Wow I suck at peacekeeping; we need more people like Joeblo.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
Hahaha. Wow. I can't even stop laughing at the concept of having no arguing.

Ounce, if everything was solved in a peaceful manner, then the world's problems would be solved by a game of chess.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Flying_Chao on September 12, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
I don't know, chess can be pretty violent sometimes....
Title: Flame wars
Post by: trumpetguy on September 12, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
This 30 year old guy I was playing with in chess with got so pissed off losing to me that he threw a table around 4 to 5 yards.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
So I guess this means that the community is going to retain its instability, and eventually have a flame war that will ultimately lead to its collapse, unless we have more people that can control the chaos?  OK then, but I don't want to be around when it happens.  :ermm:

Til then, maybe look at this (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tolerance) a bit more?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2009, 11:26:13 PM
Tolerance and peace are not the same thing at all.

As for the community, if we keep 'tolerating' LRA2, the hate will just build up inside us until we just leave because no one does anything about him (or whatever future spammers there are).

This is the reason why he should be banned: he does nothing to help the community, everyone hates his posts, and he is causing flame wars.

Toleration and peace is NOT the answer.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: The Ounce on September 12, 2009, 11:37:50 PM
I said maybe; doesn't mean we have to.

All right I give up.  Go ahead and start all the flame wars you want to.  It's not like it's inconvenient for other members.  :nope:
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Sage on September 12, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
No, we want to ban LRA2. This is to STOP flame wars.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: trumpetguy on September 12, 2009, 11:57:05 PM
I second the motion.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 12:02:49 AM
Banning doesn't really solve anything. I mean, Hydro might still be a prick in the butt for some of you, but if you compare old Hydro to new Hydro, all of you will surely prefer the new one. All it takes is some patience and perseverance. I'm also somewhat annoyed by some of LRA2's latest posts, but I still wouldn't want to ban him even if I were a mod.

But since giving him advices isn't helping much. I thought it would be better if he could help himself. I was thinking of a daily post limit to make him exert a bit more effort to post better insights, if that's possible?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Sage on September 13, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
He would use his few posts to complain about his post limit.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 12:10:36 AM
He would probably do that for the first few days (and with us still berating him), but he should learn from his mistakes after that, right? C'mon, an 8 year old can't be that stupid, right? :P
Title: Flame wars
Post by: 40757 on September 13, 2009, 12:37:05 AM
He hasn't so far after about 1,000 posts.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: kill343gs on September 13, 2009, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: Scrap Daddy;65752
LRA2 is a spamming idiot and it's beyond me why the hell he hasn't been banned yet

He was banned a couple months ago, lest we forget. Since then he has improved, but I've noticed a decline again as of late. We're watching it, I promise you... (The things people are putting in their sigs aren't helping though, since people have started using them he seems to have gotten worse.)

Quote from: The Ounce;65770
So I guess this means that the community is going to retain its instability, and eventually have a flame war that will ultimately lead to its collapse

That's what we're here for, to stop it before it gets to that point. If I banned everybody that had ever been in a flame war here, we would have a very empty community! Nine times out of ten we clean the thread, issue a verbal warning, and nothing more becomes of it. People get angry, its understandable. I've even found myself in a few firefights in the past, but it is never allowed to become out of control for long.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 01:33:55 AM
I personally think LRA2 bashing should stop, I mean look at all the posts people make offensive towards him, add all those up together and its more spam then LRA2 will ever post.

crawlers are just another bot type so I think that to should stop, there is nothing wrong if a bot fits the rules (look at micro mayhem, that required 2 wheels) and in BBEANS and Doomed bots neither controversial crawlers won? maybe they should be outlawed in DSL but there is nothing wrong with them in stock imo. looking back in Sage's showcase everyone loved bumble bee until he entered it in BBEANS.

I think we should all make a nice big effort to work in with each other, do we really want to see the demise of this great community over such little things like a bot type or 1 member out of 790 ?

:-D
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Urjak on September 13, 2009, 01:48:43 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;65801
maybe they should be outlawed in DSL but there is nothing wrong with them in stock imo.


I completly agree with you. I agree with you because DSL is about realism, and I am sorry but Crawlers do not work in real life. You don't need a crawler to win a tournament in DSL.

No one should get in a big huff about them anyway though.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 02:14:16 AM
Quote from: Urjak;65807
I completly agree with you. I agree with you because DSL is about realism, and I am sorry but Crawlers do not work in real life. You don't need a crawler to win a tournament in DSL.


Hmmm... so that means half-sheet bottoms should be outlawed, too. D:

And I also agree with JB. But I have absolutely no idea how to introduce positive reinforcement to LRA2 if he hasn't been posting decently lately. :(
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Naryar on September 13, 2009, 02:44:42 AM
Crawlers should be banned from tournaments, period.

LRA2 either needs to be banned, either needs to be put into the straight path quickly by YOU admins.

But i'm probably talking in vain...
Title: Flame wars
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 03:13:43 AM
Quote from: Natef;65741
The only flame wars I remember were the ones in BBEANS 5 thread and Story Time. I agree, we must stop the flame wars!


And the one were i said my age.OH SHI-
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 03:22:28 AM
You're not helping. :P

You know, flame wars will drastically decrease if you could just make your posts sound more polite. :D
Title: Flame wars
Post by: System32 on September 13, 2009, 06:46:23 AM
No, he's just trolling. At times.

Guys, an idea springs to mind: Let's ban all people who dislike crawlers!

No, wait. I has another one: How about a series of threads made for the sole purpose of debating. 1 on 1 debates, 2 on 2 or even 3 on 3. It will keep the more volitile flamewar starters down (like Crawlers) while still being the source of valid information.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Naryar on September 13, 2009, 08:08:31 AM
Not that easy unless the mods enforce it, but i think it's a good idea...

...When some debate arises in the community and it starts a flame war, someone makes a thread only for that exact topic (example a crawler thread with a poll : against/for/don't care)
Title: Flame wars
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 09:03:21 AM
I think a democracy on topics wouldn't be a bad idea, it would stop issues arising contentiously providing people are sensible and mature about it and dont break down into an insult fight
Title: Flame wars
Post by: frezal on September 21, 2009, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: courthousedoc;65732
Guys I have became disturbed by the amount of flame wars going on lately. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. I do not want this place to be torn apart by flame wars. So please everyone think twice before blasting somone.

Who the **** is this guy? Before complaining, make sure people like you.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Reier on September 21, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
Well he's right.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: System32 on September 22, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
I've seen him before, He's commented a plenty on Wham, reier and other vids.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Reier on September 22, 2009, 01:09:18 PM
He has?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: System32 on September 22, 2009, 01:18:41 PM
Yeah.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: System32 on September 22, 2009, 01:19:12 PM
Whoops, I was talking About Ianh's ones.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: roboman2444 on September 22, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
i remember watching some of his ra2 vids on utube
Title: Flame wars
Post by: GameKing3 on September 22, 2009, 04:27:49 PM
There is no one easy way to stop flame wars or to stop people from arguing there will always be arguments and disputes but if we are to cut this down to a minimum and keep it under control then its basicly problem solved. So that just leaves the question of how to keep it under control S32 had a good idea on how to do that but that would mean that the admins would constantly have to be online because not everyone would follow these rules. We should brainstorm and then we can come up with a couple of good ideas and see what the admins think of them.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: roboman2444 on September 22, 2009, 04:55:20 PM
ummm be nice to each other? do it by pm?
Title: Flame wars
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 22, 2009, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: courthousedoc;65732
Guys I have became disturbed by the amount of flame wars going on lately. THIS NEEDS TO STOP. I do not want this place to be torn apart by flame wars. So please everyone think twice before blasting somone.


Get lost, this place would be so boring without flame wars, I think I would leave lol           :heart_smiley: ---> :argue_smilys:
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Urjak on September 22, 2009, 06:09:48 PM
Well, I agree with Duck... (Sort of).  

Anyway, I am not seeing the flame wars courthousedoc is talking about. The ones that are supposedly tearing these fourms apart? Flame wars are a part of forums, and can never be truly dealt with. Why bother trying to stop them? They add variety and excitement to the forums, and good ideas and suggestions are often created during flame wars.
Title: Flame wars
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 22, 2009, 06:14:31 PM
flame wars do happen, and when they do, they are simple annoyances or entertainment. It is nothing to be afraid of courthouseperson
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Natef on September 22, 2009, 06:45:15 PM
^^ agreed
Title: Flame wars
Post by: kill343gs on September 22, 2009, 08:31:25 PM
Flame wars are simply heated discussions that get a little out of hand. We (the mods) usually stop them before they become a big problem. (I feel like I've said this 100 times already.)
Title: Flame wars
Post by: GameKing3 on September 22, 2009, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: Urjak;67955
Well, I agree with Duck... (Sort of).  

Anyway, I am not seeing the flame wars courthousedoc is talking about. The ones that are supposedly tearing these fourms apart? Flame wars are a part of forums, and can never be truly dealt with. Why bother trying to stop them? They add variety and excitement to the forums, and good ideas and suggestions are often created during flame wars.
I retract my previous comment some of the most fun i have ever had on this forum was watching people go at each other. Besides flame wars have really decreased so it is not really a big problem as of lately
Title: Flame wars
Post by: Scrap Daddy on September 22, 2009, 08:43:08 PM
**** *** ***** ******* *****!!!!!
Title: Flame wars
Post by: DuckRA2 on September 22, 2009, 11:17:37 PM
***** hehe m***** 8**** lol incoming flames
Title: Flame wars
Post by: life robot arena2 on October 03, 2009, 05:12:20 AM
Next stop:FLAME WAR!
Lets just wham flame wars out to prevent that.