Author Topic: How do you define a true Christian/Jew/Muslim... (Read 764 times)

DuckRA2 · « **on:** July 17, 2009, 03:47:34 PM »

It's kinda sad how holidays are becoming meaningless and religons are becoming deformed. I am a Christian and I think it is retarded how people claim they are Christian just because they celebrate the holidays... So what do you think a true religous person does? In my opinion (for a Christian) it is someone who goes to church every Sunday and on special holidays such as Easter and Christmas. Also a person that cares for their family and any living thing. Some people may say you should pray to god, but I believe that doesn't change anything. I think that God started the universe off and we have the responsibility to keep it going and no help from God is needed.

What do you guys think?

cephalopod · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2009, 03:51:10 PM »

I agree with you, but I'm not religious. Never claimed to have been.

Somehow, I can see this thread going terribly wrong...

System32 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2009, 04:03:38 PM »

That's if people don't delete my posts.

Being nice:

You can't really get any true Christian. Because if they were true they'd have to do things that in some cases be beyond even the most amoral persons twisted thoughts of justice. I'll pull out the Clothes of different threads point for an example.

Pretty much goes for all religions.

ACAMS · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2009, 04:05:19 PM »

Quote from: Craaig;52331

Somehow, I can see this thread going terribly wrong...

YEP, because I'm here...

Christians in buisness think they are worth more than they are. In my small town there are 3 local business that are very religious.....and the biggest crooks in town....will screw you to tears if they get the chance, so I NEVER go to them.

Jews are notorious for being cheap and try to jew you down.

Muslims bomb you just because they THINK we have a different god than them.

So, live and let live.

man manu · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2009, 04:05:23 PM »

Religion is for puffs. That's the end of this topic.

frezal · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2009, 06:42:45 PM »

If you try your best to follow the teachings of Jesus, as represented in the New Testament, I believe you are a Christian. I don't see why going into a musty building filled with weirdos every Sunday would matter. True Christians believe that Jesus will someday return to Earth (either metaphorically, or literally).

A true Jew follows the teachings of the Tanakh. Reform Jews seem to be those who believe in the God of Abraham, but are very secular in nature. True Jews will believe that the messiah has yet to come (though many Jews now believe that it's the "messianic age" that's coming, and not a physical person).

Muslims are those who believe in the Abrahamic God, and who follow the life and teachings of Muhammad. There are a bunch of rules to be a good Muslim, but the more secular crowd is often pretty lax on those.

That's my outsider-looking-in view on this topic.

RedSawn · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2009, 07:00:32 PM »

You know it when you see it.

/unofficial_topic_end

Urjak · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:03:08 AM »

Being an atheist... I going to have to agree with Jeffery on this one. His defenitions seem right.

System32 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:30:03 AM »

Quote from: Jeffery;52379

If you try your best to follow the teachings of Jesus, as represented in the New Testament, I believe you are a Christian.

And the Old Testament?

Naryar · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2009, 11:55:39 AM »

The Old Testament is common to all three religions.

Plus, the Christian New Testament somewhat contradicts the OT...

Quote from: ACAMS;52338

Muslims bomb you just because they THINK we have a different god than them.

Not only that, but jealousy and the thing that Muhammad was a warlord and Islam mainly expanded by conquest after his life.

But these extremists are a minority - Saudi Arabia are allied with the US, as an example.

frezal · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2009, 12:42:44 PM »

Quote from: System32;52537

And the Old Testament?

None of the Christians I've ever met put much thought into the Tanakh. The literalist Christians tend to say the bad parts of the Tanakh and the parts that are contradicted in the New Testament don't count, but they will cite Leviticus to justify their hatred of homosexuals.

The more secular Christians I know tend to view most of the Bible as just a series of stories that teach good morals, not an account of what actually happened. So to them, the important stuff from the Tanakh (the two creation stories, Moses parting the Red Sea, etc.) are just metaphors.

Quote from: DuckRA2

It's kinda sad how holidays are becoming meaningless and religons are becoming deformed.

You're aware that Christmas and Easter are old Pagan holidays that have been stolen by the Christians, right? Assuming Jesus actually existed (which he probably did), he was likely born in July or so. Moving his birthday to December and absorbing the Pagan Winter Solstice rituals was a marketing decision.