arguing about dubstep

[TeamXtreemer]

so recently some of my friends have criticized me because of my taste in music, namely dubstep.
most of the time, they provide arguments as to why it is a 'bad' genre/sub genre.

i thought that i'd list the arguments they provide, and what i've come up with as counter arguments, see if you guys agree with me, or if i could even change your minds about the quality (regardless of if you like it or not, i am providing arguments as to why you should accept it.

1. takes no effort to make/ even i could make that.
that's a load of crap. i have been making music just short of about five months and i'm not very good at it, but the times i've attempted to make dubstep, i've found it very difficult. i can barely structure the songs and drops aren't a matter of just copying and pasting bass growls and such, it's very tough to be able to structure some of the more complex drops. yes, there are the songs that just have wobble bass over some mediocre drum loop and some filler chords and bass, but that's terrible dubstep, just like terrible rock, classical, etc.

2. guitarists are much better because they practice for years, people who make dubstep can make a song in an hour.
that's also a load of crap. like i said before, i've been trying to make dubstep for quite a while now, and it's still no easier than before, and if someone who makes dubstep makes a song in an hour, it would be 0:30 long and would song awful.
people who play the guitar can make songs in just the same amount of time as someone who makes dubstep. check this out, for example.

i'm sure this guy knows how to play the guitar, but the song took 5:42 to make, and that's almost 6/10 of the time it took to make a dubstep tracki, according to you.

3. they're not playing any instruments, it's not real music.

they are playing instruments, they're playing things such as chaos pads and mpcs.

'all it is is pressing a sequence of buttons, anyone can do that.

can you?




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[090901]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

[TeamXtreemer]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

funny guy

[ty4er]

all dubstep is pretty much the same, just different noises to begin with


oh and theres the people who listen to it (or most of them)

[TeamXtreemer]

all dubstep is pretty much the same, just different noises to begin with


and the people who listen to it (or most of them)

all metal is just the same, it's just different notes to begin with.

and the people who listen to it (or most of them)

[090901]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

funny guy

but it is true

[TeamXtreemer]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

funny guy

but it is true

you think it's bad, that's fine, but you haven't provided a reason as to why, yet.

[090901]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

funny guy

but it is true

you think it's bad, that's fine, but you haven't provided a reason as to why, yet.

My reason is:

it sounds terrible

[Jamin]

lol that's just the typical close minded meddul head argument against Electronica in general. "hurr yur just pushin buttons plae a real instrument fag xddd"

That said dubstep still sucks, but saying sh** like that is pretty ignorant.

[TeamXtreemer]

you forgot


4. 99.99% of it sounds terrible

funny guy

but it is true

you think it's bad, that's fine, but you haven't provided a reason as to why, yet.

My reason is:

it sounds terrible

well you're just too dumb to construct an argument.

[090901]

well you're just too dumb to construct an argument.

You could go and prove that dubstep doesn't sound terrible, but instead you make this post. You are too stupid to construct an argument.

[TeamXtreemer]

well you're just too dumb to construct an argument.

You could go and prove that dubstep doesn't sound terrible, but instead you make this post. You are too stupid to construct an argument.

i construct my arguments based on fact, you construct yours based on opinion.
i can't argue against opinion, because it's yours.

[Jamin]

well you're just too dumb to construct an argument.

You could go and prove that dubstep doesn't sound terrible, but instead you make this post. You are too stupid to construct an argument.

How the **** does one "prove" this? It's an opinion he has, get over it.

[TeamXtreemer]

well you're just too dumb to construct an argument.

You could go and prove that dubstep doesn't sound terrible, but instead you make this post. You are too stupid to construct an argument.

How the **** does one "prove" this? It's an opinion he has, get over it.

gtm civil war

[Jonzu95]

lolwut, Sparkey?

[Domanating]

Dubstep to me is just noise that really makes me deaf. It makes me tense and violent.
About 70% of all the music I hear are oldies, between the 40s and the 70s and Classic music. The rest are some rare and more recent picks here and there because of their interesting rhythm.

Music Genres that I specially don't like are Heavy metal, Death Metal, Dubstep and 98% of Techno. I might have forgotten something but I don't remember right now.

I have to say in the first place that I'm not that open minded to new music. Many people tell me "You don't like anything! You should be more open minded to music!" In my defense, I can judge a music and say if it's interesting and well made but it doesn't mean I have to like it. There's no way to force me to like it. I heard it, I don't like it, end of story.

But with the music genres I mentioned above I can't even judge the musics because I can't find sense in them. For me it's just noise, screams, bangs and whatever, just chaos. I'm unable to find a pattern or a line to follow. I know most people will criticize me but I put all those genres I hate in the same box and classify them altogether as "musics from hell".  But that's how my brain works so I can't change it 

I honestly cannot physically understand how other people are able to like those genres and specially Dubstep, because I consider it the peak of music nonsense.
I do however respect your music tastes and choices as long as you respect mine aswell.

[Jamin]

Dubstep to me is just noise that really makes me deaf. It makes me tense and violent.
About 70% of all the music I hear are oldies, between the 40s and the 70s and Classic music. The rest are some rare and more recent picks here and there because of their interesting rhythm.

Music Genres that I specially don't like are Heavy metal, Death Metal, Dubstep and 98% of Techno. I might have forgotten something but I don't remember right now.

I have to say in the first place that I'm not that open minded to new music. Many people tell me "You don't like anything! You should be more open minded to music!" In my defense, I can judge a music and say if it's interesting and well made but it doesn't mean I have to like it. There's no way to force me to like it. I heard it, I don't like it, end of story.

But with the music genres I mentioned above I can't even judge the musics because I can't find sense in them. For me it's just noise, screams, bangs and whatever, just chaos. I'm unable to find a pattern or a line to follow. I know most people will criticize me but I put all those genres I hate in the same box and classify them altogether as "musics from hell".  But that's how my brain works so I can't change it 

I honestly cannot physically understand how other people are able to like those genres and specially Dubstep, because I consider it the peak of music nonsense.
I do however respect your music tastes and choices as long as you respect mine aswell.

No, this is the peak of music nonsense
http://nequamsonitus.bandcamp.com/album/900-n-howard

[Domanating]

Dubstep to me is just noise that really makes me deaf. It makes me tense and violent.
About 70% of all the music I hear are oldies, between the 40s and the 70s and Classic music. The rest are some rare and more recent picks here and there because of their interesting rhythm.

Music Genres that I specially don't like are Heavy metal, Death Metal, Dubstep and 98% of Techno. I might have forgotten something but I don't remember right now.

I have to say in the first place that I'm not that open minded to new music. Many people tell me "You don't like anything! You should be more open minded to music!" In my defense, I can judge a music and say if it's interesting and well made but it doesn't mean I have to like it. There's no way to force me to like it. I heard it, I don't like it, end of story.

But with the music genres I mentioned above I can't even judge the musics because I can't find sense in them. For me it's just noise, screams, bangs and whatever, just chaos. I'm unable to find a pattern or a line to follow. I know most people will criticize me but I put all those genres I hate in the same box and classify them altogether as "musics from hell".  But that's how my brain works so I can't change it 

I honestly cannot physically understand how other people are able to like those genres and specially Dubstep, because I consider it the peak of music nonsense.
I do however respect your music tastes and choices as long as you respect mine aswell.

No, this is the peak of music nonsense
http://nequamsonitus.bandcamp.com/album/900-n-howard

Holy ____. What the ____. That's true music for nightmares! The 1st music is enough make sleepless for 3 days straight....
It's funny they have links for the lyrics...

At least their music tags are honest:
 "tags: experimental ae9fawj3fimf9aisklfm ****************** noise Tampa"

[TeamXtreemer]

Dubstep to me is just noise that really makes me deaf. It makes me tense and violent.
About 70% of all the music I hear are oldies, between the 40s and the 70s and Classic music. The rest are some rare and more recent picks here and there because of their interesting rhythm.

Music Genres that I specially don't like are Heavy metal, Death Metal, Dubstep and 98% of Techno. I might have forgotten something but I don't remember right now.

I have to say in the first place that I'm not that open minded to new music. Many people tell me "You don't like anything! You should be more open minded to music!" In my defense, I can judge a music and say if it's interesting and well made but it doesn't mean I have to like it. There's no way to force me to like it. I heard it, I don't like it, end of story.

But with the music genres I mentioned above I can't even judge the musics because I can't find sense in them. For me it's just noise, screams, bangs and whatever, just chaos. I'm unable to find a pattern or a line to follow. I know most people will criticize me but I put all those genres I hate in the same box and classify them altogether as "musics from hell".  But that's how my brain works so I can't change it 

I honestly cannot physically understand how other people are able to like those genres and specially Dubstep, because I consider it the peak of music nonsense.
I do however respect your music tastes and choices as long as you respect mine aswell.

i guess it's just what people prefer, you like pizza, i like chocholate, you know? it's preference, i guess.

[Jamin]

Dubstep to me is just noise that really makes me deaf. It makes me tense and violent.
About 70% of all the music I hear are oldies, between the 40s and the 70s and Classic music. The rest are some rare and more recent picks here and there because of their interesting rhythm.

Music Genres that I specially don't like are Heavy metal, Death Metal, Dubstep and 98% of Techno. I might have forgotten something but I don't remember right now.

I have to say in the first place that I'm not that open minded to new music. Many people tell me "You don't like anything! You should be more open minded to music!" In my defense, I can judge a music and say if it's interesting and well made but it doesn't mean I have to like it. There's no way to force me to like it. I heard it, I don't like it, end of story.

But with the music genres I mentioned above I can't even judge the musics because I can't find sense in them. For me it's just noise, screams, bangs and whatever, just chaos. I'm unable to find a pattern or a line to follow. I know most people will criticize me but I put all those genres I hate in the same box and classify them altogether as "musics from hell".  But that's how my brain works so I can't change it 

I honestly cannot physically understand how other people are able to like those genres and specially Dubstep, because I consider it the peak of music nonsense.
I do however respect your music tastes and choices as long as you respect mine aswell.

No, this is the peak of music nonsense
http://nequamsonitus.bandcamp.com/album/900-n-howard

Holy ____. What the ____. That's true music for nightmares! The 1st music is enough make sleepless for 3 days straight....
It's funny they have links for the lyrics...

At least their music tags are honest:
 "tags: experimental ae9fawj3fimf9aisklfm ****************** noise Tampa"

You think the music is scary? Read through this sh** http://np.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/16rkri/i_just_got_this_in_the_mail_i_have_no_idea_where/c7ys3t6?context=1