Quote from: Mr. AS on September 30, 2017, 02:52:59 PMQuote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 02:50:17 PMTotally banning IRL titles is a frankly stupid idea that I refuse to stand for. it's the most popular meta for a reason.Because it's easy to build. Nothing else to it.So's stock IRL and nobody plays that.
Quote from: Avalanche on September 30, 2017, 02:50:17 PMTotally banning IRL titles is a frankly stupid idea that I refuse to stand for. it's the most popular meta for a reason.Because it's easy to build. Nothing else to it.
Totally banning IRL titles is a frankly stupid idea that I refuse to stand for. it's the most popular meta for a reason.
I think removing IRL title fights basically cripples this title. IRL is entirely possible to fight in, i mean, did you see any of my title defences recently? All of those were in DSL and they had many people watching and fighting, and they all happened in legitimate circumstances with legitimate competition. IRL, when you know that everybody is fighting with the intent to win, is a perfectly fine meta. And the thing is that a "competitive" irl isn't just DSL-S because DSL-S is so detached from real robots it's frankly absurd (just look at Kurt's SHW from his title victory over DSC): jugglers, 6 mechavore vses, spinners with no support etc. are all impossible IRL, yet in DSL-S they are fair game. Taking IRL seriously and using it as a legitimate meta should be fully allowed. If you're really scared over the champion holding the title hostage in this meta (and that's a non-issue personally) then make it so it can only be fought once every 4 months: if you fight the title in IRL, you have to then fight the next 3 months in other metas. Also, if over 60% of the challengers in the monthly bracket are not willing to do IRL matches, then the title will have to be fought in another meta.Allows for IRL builders to actually be allowed to compete, keeps those who shudder at the mere thought of IRL builders wanting to properly compete happy, and siphons off IRL builders into other metas during the other 3 months that IRL can't be fought in.Banning IRL title fights even when both challenger and champion want to is just wrong and shouldn't be a rule. Setting rules that prevent the champion from forcing the title to be fought in IRL may be necessary, but my rules from earlier in this post should cover and solve that.
>not letting me ai my own robotunironically kill yourself
IRL building could easily be turned into competition. Just everyone acknowledge the fact that everyone is going to fight to win instead of solely making a cool bot and BAM, you have yourself IRL competitive. The problem with DSL-S is that it has hardly any basis in reality, but IRL has a standard for making robots that would work IRL. It's currently about making cool bots, but you can definitely make a sub-meta in the challenge board where the goal ISN'T to make cool bots, but is to make realistically functioning robots that compete to win and not to look cool. It's easy.
You got my vote for RA2 Wizard. Always and forever.
also lol at most toxic guy around calling others out on this sh**
To be honest I don't see why we can't just say that IRL isn't a core meta but it can be used for title/belt fights if BOTH the champ and challenger agree. That rule doesn't hurt anyone
Quote from: Badger on October 01, 2017, 12:18:20 PMTo be honest I don't see why we can't just say that IRL isn't a core meta but it can be used for title/belt fights if BOTH the champ and challenger agree. That rule doesn't hurt anyonethe problem is the format. champion decides the meta, everyone gets the chance to send a bot. if even 1 person doesn't want IRL, then your idea doesn't work anymore. This will happen 99% of the time, so it's easier just to do DSL/Stock/Ironforge instead.In fact, I would enter every month and say I don't want IRL.
I still think that forcing a single meta for a whole month for a title, and only having one title, is really dumb.
I say do the bracket and if the eventual challenger and champion both agree on IRL at the start, then the actual defense happens in IRL, if they don't agree then the title defence happens in the meta used for the main bracket.
+1 this should be implemented ASAP
You could run a separate selection for IRL, I'd be pretty stupid to cut most of the people from entering as non of them really build other metas
it makes people learn new metas instead of just sticking to irl,