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Robot Arena Matches => Challenge Board => Topic started by: 123savethewhales on February 18, 2011, 11:53:20 AM

Title: 123savethewhales vs Fotpex (123savethewhales Wins)
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 18, 2011, 11:53:20 AM: Quote
Hey, 123, fancy having a Sheck Spinner challenge? You and me, HW SS, DSL battle.

So that's that.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Naryar on February 18, 2011, 03:53:59 PM: RAPE TIME
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: powerrave on February 18, 2011, 04:21:50 PM: going to bet on 123 winning here.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Scorpion on February 18, 2011, 04:26:01 PM: Quote from: Naryar on February 18, 2011, 03:53:59 PM
RAPE TIME
XD
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Jack Daniels on February 18, 2011, 04:43:34 PM: I doubt Fopster will come through. He bailed on BTTB. Not cool.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Reier on February 18, 2011, 05:01:53 PM: Yeah I wonder who's gonna win here
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Badnik96 on February 18, 2011, 05:12:13 PM: 123 will win this.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 18, 2011, 05:17:40 PM: Considering I'm using an upgraded My Internal Rage, maybe not.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: martymidget on February 18, 2011, 05:34:13 PM: Considering its 123, and he knows how to combat every single bot type effectively in the HW class, I suggest you rethink that statement. :P
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 18, 2011, 06:02:30 PM: Well it's SS vs SS, and you guys know I never really build SS.

So it's 50 - 50.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: G.K. on February 19, 2011, 05:44:47 AM: FOTEPX, do you consider the last thing 123 showcased to be an SS?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on February 19, 2011, 07:16:28 AM: lololololololol
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: nicsan2009 on February 20, 2011, 03:55:24 PM: This would be fun to watch
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Enigm@ on February 20, 2011, 03:59:12 PM: I'm gonna enjoy this. =]
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 20, 2011, 04:02:09 PM: I'm just waiting for 123 to post/send his.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 20, 2011, 04:07:53 PM: Who is hosting the battle though?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 20, 2011, 04:12:58 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 20, 2011, 04:07:53 PM
Who is hosting the battle though?

I dunno, If anyone wants to, be my guest.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Badnik96 on February 20, 2011, 11:35:18 PM: Call me crazy but after looking over the competitors I believe FOTEPX may win this. He has more experience in the way of SS. FOTEPX posts SS regularly, but 123 only makes them every so often. even though he is more knowledgeable in DSL, I think FOTEP's experience with SS could take him to victory.

Now all we need is a GF93 intro and we're all set here. :P
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Bubbleman on February 21, 2011, 10:31:36 AM: Quote from: FOTEPX on February 20, 2011, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 20, 2011, 04:07:53 PM
Who is hosting the battle though?

I dunno, If anyone wants to, be my guest.

I will. send me the bots, and i'll have the match up before the week is out.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Urjak on February 21, 2011, 10:49:44 AM: There is a problem here...

One of you could simply whip up a SS with an astroflight or some other weak weapon motor and then spam weapons like there is no tomorrow.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 11:37:46 AM: that's not a problem, that's how SS vs SS is supposed to be played.

You just killed my chance to win by spoiling my plan. Now that Fotpex is probably going to do the same since you already announce the optimum strategy, it all comes down to luck in what type of weapon Fotpex is going to use.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Urjak on February 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
that's not a problem, that's how SS vs SS is supposed to be played.

You just killed my chance to win by spoiling my plan.

I see... well I feel like a major jerk right now. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 21, 2011, 02:00:36 PM: Quote from: Urjak on February 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
that's not a problem, that's how SS vs SS is supposed to be played.

You just killed my chance to win by spoiling my plan.

I see... well I feel like a major jerk right now. Sorry about that.

'Tis OK, I got the idea to use Astros from a previously showcased bot of his.

Anyways, my bot's done, Just waiting on 123 now.

(If you're wondering, Steel 1, 32 small beaters and 32 razors, Astroflight + Hypnos and no popup protection.)
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Vertigo on February 21, 2011, 02:11:52 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
that's not a problem, that's how SS vs SS is supposed to be played.

You just killed my chance to win by spoiling my plan. Now that Fotpex is probably going to do the same since you already announce the optimum strategy, it all comes down to luck in what type of weapon Fotpex is going to use.

Quote from: FOTEPX on February 21, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
(If you're wondering, Steel 1, 32 small beaters and 32 razors, Astroflight + Hypnos and no popup protection.)
Ha! For your sake I hope you're not being serious here
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 02:32:37 PM: Quote from: Urjak on February 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
I see... well I feel like a major jerk right now. Sorry about that.
Lol it's okay, now I got an excuse when I lose.

Also find a problem with this strategy. Even if you can de-weapon you can still LBP. I don't think undercutting that drive is such a good idea.

Quote from: Vertigo on February 21, 2011, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: FOTEPX on February 21, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
(If you're wondering, Steel 1, 32 small beaters and 32 razors, Astroflight + Hypnos and no popup protection.)
Ha! For your sake I hope you're not being serious here

It's a mix, so it's solid. See if he uses flail razor that would be easy to counter. Razor beaters not so much.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 03:59:47 PM: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac159/123savethewhales/hwhammerss0.jpg)

But too bad Urjak spoiled it. So maybe I won't use this.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 21, 2011, 04:02:51 PM: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- :FFFUUU
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Jack Daniels on February 21, 2011, 07:38:14 PM: Which arena? Might I suggest a flipper? :gawe:
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 090901 on February 21, 2011, 07:40:01 PM: Quote from: Badnik96 on February 18, 2011, 05:12:13 PM
123 will win this.
Quote from: Badnik96 on February 20, 2011, 11:35:18 PM
Call me crazy but after looking over the competitors I believe FOTEPX may win this. He has more experience in the way of SS. FOTEPX posts SS regularly, but 123 only makes them every so often. even though he is more knowledgeable in DSL, I think FOTEP's experience with SS could take him to victory.

Now all we need is a GF93 intro and we're all set here. :P

wat
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 08:11:45 PM: Quote from: Jack Daniels on February 21, 2011, 07:38:14 PM
Which arena? Might I suggest a flipper? :gawe:
You realize this is a SS vs SS challenge right?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Pwnator on February 22, 2011, 03:13:26 AM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on February 21, 2011, 07:38:14 PM
Which arena? Might I suggest a flipper? :gawe:
You realize this is a SS vs SS challenge right?

Yeah, and this will also be a test of whether underkilling your drive that much is good or not. :P
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Jack Daniels on February 22, 2011, 04:14:46 AM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels on February 21, 2011, 07:38:14 PM
Which arena? Might I suggest a flipper? :gawe:
You realize this is a SS vs SS challenge right?

Oh. Heh... I guess I didn't pay attention to that part.

I'll go back to my cave. *slinks off*
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Vertigo on February 22, 2011, 12:16:13 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 21, 2011, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: Vertigo on February 21, 2011, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: FOTEPX on February 21, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
(If you're wondering, Steel 1, 32 small beaters and 32 razors, Astroflight + Hypnos and no popup protection.)
Ha! For your sake I hope you're not being serious here

It's a mix, so it's solid. See if he uses flail razor that would be easy to counter. Razor beaters not so much.
Read my original post again, you needed to know what weapons he was using, and he has just told you

I knew that wasn't a bad weapon choice
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 22, 2011, 12:58:39 PM: Well, thing is he can be lying. So what I build should be independent to what he said.

Since I already send something to Bubbleman, now all we have to do is wait.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 22, 2011, 05:23:26 PM: My bot shall arrive tommorow.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: freeziez on February 22, 2011, 05:53:07 PM: Quote from: FOTEPX on February 22, 2011, 05:23:26 PM
My bot shall arrive tommorow.

Can't you just make it now?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 22, 2011, 06:40:26 PM: I bet you he's changing his entry despite he said he's waiting for me the whole time.

Although, there's always the chance that I didn't send the bot I posted here, but you won't know that until it's too late.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 22, 2011, 06:42:01 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 22, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
I bet you he's changing his entry despite he said he's waiting for me the whole time.

Although, there's always the chance that I didn't send the bot I posted here, but you won't know that.

No, it's because I'm on my laptop, and can't post the bot from here and stuffs.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Naryar on February 22, 2011, 08:41:16 PM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 22, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
I bet you he's changing his entry despite he said he's waiting for me the whole time.

Or he might not just to prove you wrong. That might in the end turn against him.

So many possibilities, and no way to prove them for sure...
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Bubbleman on February 23, 2011, 04:09:23 AM: Any Arena Preference? _{123 will own :P}
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Dragonfire on February 23, 2011, 04:30:37 AM: says in the challenge thread rules: combat arena, hazards off, 2 out of 3?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Bubbleman on February 23, 2011, 04:39:16 AM: well, Horror V Ty4er was in the balde arena, NFXvdragonsteincolev(i forgot the name) was the DSL tournament arena, sooo...
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Naryar on February 23, 2011, 04:40:31 AM: Hazardless combat arena is the fairest IMO.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Bubbleman on February 23, 2011, 04:49:59 AM: Ok. i will use the combat arena for the arena. just waiting on fotepx's bot.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Bubbleman on February 26, 2011, 04:08:52 AM: HERE IT IS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ10IxvOK_M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ10IxvOK_M#)
to be honest, i was suprised at how similar the bot's were, and i thought 'good battle on our hands today...'

Well done 123STW, i would have never thought of that setup. +1 CP

Don't shoot me, i was only the AI'er! Seriously though, comiserations, great robot, better than anything i would come up with. Better luck next time! -1 CP
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Stagfish on February 26, 2011, 04:58:20 AM: Ypu AI'ed FOTEPX's bot wrong, it starts facing the wrong way round.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:03:23 AM: Ai'd wrong. Your only job, and you do it wrong. *L4D2-style facepalm*
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Pwnator on February 26, 2011, 05:07:16 AM: Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
Ai'd wrong. Your only job, and you do it wrong. *L4D2-style facepalm*

Not entirely his fault, and not his job.

Quote from: Sage on October 24, 2010, 11:43:33 AM
9. Bots MUST be AIed by yourself, so if you can't AI go with a VOTE challenge. This is to lessen the load on the battle hosters.

But it's still not fair to FOTEPX, though. Redo the matches (3 matches is probably more preferable), but just do endgame screenies so it won't be too much of a hassle for you. :D
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:13:10 AM: And this time, AI it properly.

(I can't AI 1-wheeled bots, but if someone's willing to teach me how, i'll do it myself.)
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Pwnator on February 26, 2011, 05:17:59 AM: Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:13:10 AM
And this time, AI it properly.

Again, not his job.

Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:13:10 AM
(I can't AI 1-wheeled bots, but if someone's willing to teach me how, i'll do it myself.)

Steal an AI line from NAR AI. Tune the numbers to your liking.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Horror on February 26, 2011, 06:01:26 AM: Quote from: Stagfish on February 26, 2011, 04:58:20 AM
Ypu AI'ed FOTEPX's bot wrong, it starts facing the wrong way round.
Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
Ai'd wrong. Your only job, and you do it wrong. *L4D2-style facepalm*
Hold on, if you look before the match starts, the bot is facing the right way around, but the sheer might of the spinner switches its direction by, well, being itself. he did not ai it wrong, the bot's spinner was just too powerful. [/making a point]
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: G.K. on February 26, 2011, 06:11:19 AM: No, it keeps driving the wrong way.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Horror on February 26, 2011, 06:17:47 AM: Oh, ignore me then :embarr
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 06:32:09 AM: Will do.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Naryar on February 26, 2011, 10:28:05 AM: While this is an AI failure...

It doesn't matters much anyway, 123 has the best weapon loadout.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Enigm@ on February 26, 2011, 10:42:15 AM: Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
Ai'd wrong. Your only job, and you do it wrong. *L4D2-style facepalm*
YOU AI'D IT WRONG.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: Badnik96 on February 26, 2011, 01:25:18 PM: Re-Ai the match, it's the only fair way.

Quote from: FOTEPX on February 26, 2011, 05:13:10 AM
And this time, AI it properly.

(I can't AI 1-wheeled bots, but if someone's willing to teach me how, i'll do it myself.)

FBSPlus.py.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: 123savethewhales on February 26, 2011, 05:15:55 PM: It's fair if Fotepx "don't" get his rematch and I get my win. More appropriately I should get a default win due to rule #9.

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9. Bots MUST be AIed by yourself, so if you can't AI go with a VOTE challenge. This is to lessen the load on the battle hosters.

I don't care either way. But why should Bubbleman, who's providing a free service, be bombarded by bullsh**s and extra work because Fotepx is too lazy to AI himself? Bubbleman shouldn't be obligated to do more than what he already did.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (123 wins)
Post by: Bubbleman on February 27, 2011, 03:28:29 AM: Quote from: 123savethewhales on February 26, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
It's fair if Fotepx "don't" get his rematch and I get my win. More appropriately I should get a default win due to rule #9.

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9. Bots MUST be AIed by yourself, so if you can't AI go with a VOTE challenge. This is to lessen the load on the battle hosters.

I don't care either way. But why should Bubbleman, who's providing a free service, be bombarded by bullsh**s and extra work because Fotepx is too lazy to AI himself? Bubbleman shouldn't be obligated to do more than what he already did.
Horror was right in the way it was facing forwards, but i just AI'd it as it was sent. i didn't alter it in any way, and even used the AI line 123savethewales sent, but your robot still lost, FOTEPX, and that's that.
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Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: TeamXtreemer on March 01, 2011, 01:13:20 PM: No offence FOTEP but 123's bot is better.
I think it'd win anyway...
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex
Post by: FOTEPX on March 01, 2011, 01:18:21 PM: Bubbleman, it kept crashing into walls. AKA, you crew it. (Or blew it, if you don't speak Coach Z) So, AI it right, and do it again.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on March 01, 2011, 01:20:05 PM: FOTEPX, you should have AI'd it yourself. You must either accept the result or forfeit.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: G.K. on March 01, 2011, 01:24:51 PM: How do you know it would have been a victory?
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: Bubbleman on March 01, 2011, 01:25:25 PM: You should've ai'd it then, because as i said,
Quote from: Bubbleman on February 27, 2011, 03:28:29 AM
I AI'd it as it was sent.

@G.K. Exactly.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: TeamXtreemer on March 01, 2011, 01:29:43 PM: Quote from: G.K. on March 01, 2011, 01:24:51 PM
How do you know it would have been a victory?
I said think, not win GK.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: G.K. on March 01, 2011, 01:31:39 PM: I was talking to FOTEPX.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: 123savethewhales on March 01, 2011, 01:35:01 PM: Because he knows he already lost according to the rules so he wants to talk his way out of it.

Even now he still won't AI the bot himself.

I don't care either way. Just let Fotepx forfeit and forget about it.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: System32 on March 08, 2011, 05:34:44 PM: Jesus, Just flip the bindings turn ways, dammit.

I honestly want to see this bot in all of FOPTEX's claimed "glory".
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: 123savethewhales on March 08, 2011, 05:40:51 PM: His bot is facing the right way, he just don't know how to wire a 1 motor drive properly.

But then, seeing as it's 1 astralflight, it won't move much regardless, the torque from the dual perm would have easily overpowered it. That's the main reason why I didn't enter my 8 hammer shell.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: System32 on March 08, 2011, 05:42:42 PM: It was clearly reversing, so either it's backwards bindings or wiring.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: 123savethewhales on March 08, 2011, 05:53:54 PM: If Fotepx is going to AI it himself and find another host, that's fine. Because Bubbleman doesn't want to host again, and I don't think anyone would want to help Fotepx AI due to the potential drama.
Title: Re: 123 vs Fotpex (Battle) (123 Wins)
Post by: Reier on March 09, 2011, 10:25:34 AM: In this case
LATEX = lra2