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Robot Arena => Tutorials and Tips => Topic started by: kix on January 09, 2019, 07:57:13 AM

Title: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: kix on January 09, 2019, 07:57:13 AM
This tutorial is going to show you how to move chassis points that you usually cant move in ra2
Will try to make this noob friendly
You will need:
Notepad++
Brain
To start off, lets make a bot that is going to look like Apollo From Robot wars
This is as far as we can go in ra2
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532541359190573057/Untitled.png)
NOTE: The points that i Highlighted are gonna be the same position, and if i lower the points next to them that are highlighted green, i will get that sloped design that i drew
If you want to move the chassis points you will have to be in test robot section
Now you open up notepad and search for lines that have 3 number values (these are reference lines, yours will be different)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532542013137092620/reference.png)
You are asking yourself, what do those numbers mean? Well, they are locations of collision and display mesh of the bot
Now to understand those numbers, here are pics i made


(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532544790143827968/reference.png)


(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532543057258872843/tUTORAL.png)
The centre point of the grid in ra2 is 0, The distance between each line in the square is 0.22
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532546833130717184/thing2.png)
The best way of moving chassis points is to have a screenshot of both layers of the create chassis section
now i want to move the pink point to the blue point. To do that i have to figure out the location of the bot
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532547332437311488/thing1.png)
We first need to locate the first X line of the point. The pink point is left so the value is going to be negative. The point cuts the -0,88 line so our first number is going to be
-0.88 Z Y
To locate the third point we again need to count down from the middle, and in this case the point cuts the -0.66 line, So the value is
-0.88 Z -0.66
The point we are going to move to has the same X and Z value but the Y value cuts through the -0.88 line
To find out the second value, we need to find out the chassis/point height
Now we know that the point is on the second layer of the area so the line will NOT have 0 as second number. How can we find out the chassis/point height?
In the 3 number values lines the second value that that isnt 0 is the height of the chassis/point, all of these lines that i selected share the same line
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532550110018666536/thing3.png)
So the 0.78 is the chassis/point height
The line we need to find in the bot lab is:
-0.88 0.78 -0.66
So the line we are looking for is repeating 3 times
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532551663894921217/thing3.png)
Why? It is simple, there are 3 meshes in the bot that game calculates
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532552486599393280/thing3.png)
So to move the whole point we need to move all 3 meshes
So lets do that, by moving the Y points in the lines from -0.66 to -0.88
Exit the test bot area and:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532553543555612688/thing3.png)
The point is moved. Lets do that to the other side, by doing the same tactic of locating the points
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532554578533679114/thing3.png)
Before moving the middle part, lets lower the parts that we moved before
locate the values that you previously moved (in this case -0.88 0.78 -0.88 and -0.88 0.78 -0.88)
Lets lower the second value of these numbers to 0.31
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532556484274290688/thing3.png)
And done, the only thing left is to locate the top front points and move them back, again by finding out the location (in this case -0.22 0.78 -0.22 and 0.22 0.78 -0.22) and moving the Y location to -0.88
After we have done that it will look like this:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514931284825604100/532557735494025216/thing3.png)
And we are pretty much done, hopefully some of you guys will figure this tutorial out, if you have any questions just ask me.
Enjoy
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Redalert on January 09, 2019, 08:59:17 AM
Great idea, Kix.
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: HarleysCupboard on January 09, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
Shid you read my mind, this is gonna be huge  :dance:
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: pokebro14 on January 09, 2019, 10:53:49 AM
tbh extenders are better :V


















chassis bot gay
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: kix on January 09, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
tbh extenders are better :V
Tbh i want to die :V
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Team Code Red Robotics on January 09, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
tbh extenders are better :V
Tbh i want to die :V
WHO DOESN'T
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Jaydee99 on January 09, 2019, 12:15:11 PM
Great guide Kix
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Redalert on January 09, 2019, 12:33:32 PM
tbh extenders are better :V
Tbh i want to die :V
WHO DOESN'T

Please stop joking about dying. With what's going on in today's world, this is absolutely NOT a joke.
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Bildschirm on January 09, 2019, 02:57:52 PM
Please stop joking about dying. With what's going on in today's world, this is absolutely NOT a joke.
I think that statement is missing its tragic backstory btw
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: pokebro14 on January 09, 2019, 03:34:24 PM
tbh extenders are better :V
Tbh i want to die :V
WHO DOESN'T

With what's going on in today's world
Did red alert just make a 'We live in a society meme' ?
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Billy5545 on January 09, 2019, 04:41:06 PM
Great tutorial
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: UberPyro on January 09, 2019, 04:44:44 PM
Great guide, good job drawing over the screenshots and clearly explaining every step you took.
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: TheRoboteer on January 09, 2019, 04:47:20 PM
Someone should really update the tutorial index with all these new up-to-date tutorials.

Nice job BTW kix
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: kix on January 09, 2019, 07:14:49 PM
Thank you all for the nice and kind comments, i was kinda regretting when i posted this because i always had that feeling that comments are gonna be "theres literally 28329 of these tutorials" or "instructions unclear, accidentally sent my body pillow to japan", which was a thing because i thought i haven't explained it fully. Again thanks!
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: 090901 on January 10, 2019, 11:03:18 AM
Someone should really update the tutorial index with all these new up-to-date tutorials.

(((You)))
Title: Re: Moving chassis points by magic of BFE
Post by: Redalert on January 10, 2019, 01:23:54 PM
Hey, Kix. Nice job. :)