Author Topic: RA2 Trials Tournament Idea (Read 5301 times)

S.T.C. · « **Reply #20 on:** March 18, 2010, 10:07:18 PM »

Yup, pretty much just figured that out today lol.

Naryar · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2010, 06:44:53 AM »

A poker might be a good idea as well... Ill Omen 2 ?

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2010, 05:56:55 PM »

Mighty fast turnaround on those signups. I'm not sure it's ready for approval yet.

Why don't you wait for a bit, see how much enthusiasm there is, whether there are any more rules issues that need to be worked out, and give people some time to work on their bots. A few days minimum. After that the signups should be ready for approval.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2010, 06:01:01 PM »

yah I regreted doing that a bit a while later. I'll see what happens after a few days (tho idk how many days for sure tho).

SKBT · « **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2010, 08:46:37 PM »

I like this idea. I'm in.

090901 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 19, 2010, 09:53:29 PM »

I have the perfect bot idea

S.T.C. · « **Reply #26 on:** March 20, 2010, 10:10:19 AM »

A rule was added for the tabletop match (its underlined)

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #27 on:** March 20, 2010, 12:11:48 PM »

This seems like a really good idea.

I'd suggest you put more restrictions on weapons, as the current rules permit people to enter a super-destructive spinner or something that wins all three events via KO.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #28 on:** March 20, 2010, 12:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on March 20, 2010, 12:11:48 PM

This seems like a really good idea.

I'd suggest you put more restrictions on weapons, as the current rules permit people to enter a super-destructive spinner or something that wins all three events via KO.

and that leads to rule number 12.

Thyrus · « **Reply #29 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:48:53 PM »

so lifters are burstpiston powered?
I could enter with the winner of my tourney :P

SKBT · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:54:04 PM »

So what is your definition of a lifter and a flipper.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2010, 02:55:18 PM »

In other words, something like the stock sentinel, good enough to lift a bot and flip it over, but not like Second Sentinel, that can flip a bot in the air and possibly make it fly higher than Sky High.

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2010, 05:46:16 PM »

What do you get if you push the pushbot or your partner off in the second challenge?

Also I'm a little worried that the format still rewards destructive robots too much. The maximum you can get from King of The Hill is 1800 points, but you can earn exponentially more in the second challenge. Even with the weapon restrictions, a well-built DSL bots can score really high, to the point where the King of The Hill challenge is negligible.

Perhaps you could take the King of the Hill score and multiply it by 400? That way, a bot could score up to 24,000 points; an effective balancing measure against Robot Arena 2's selective scoring system.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2010, 06:08:28 PM »

Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on March 20, 2010, 05:46:16 PM

What do you get if you push the pushbot or your partner off in the second challenge?

If your partner falls off, the partner is eliminated, if the bot is pushed out, it'll still depend on points cause if not, the whole points thing will have no use.

Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on March 20, 2010, 05:46:16 PM

What do you get if you push the pushbot or your partner off in the second challenge?

Also I'm a little worried that the format still rewards destructive robots too much. The maximum you can get from King of The Hill is 1800 points, but you can earn exponentially more in the second challenge. Even with the weapon restrictions, a well-built DSL bots can score really high, to the point where the King of The Hill challenge is negligible.

1. This is why the KoTH match is only 1 minute. And so is the tabletop.
2. Well the point is to make a really good bot and win.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2010, 08:38:38 PM »

DP
Updated the rules for the tabletop tournament, any doubts just post here.

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2010, 09:02:30 PM »

What if one robot gets immobilized in KOTH? Does the other robot get some extra points? Because hypothetically, I could build a dragging wedge that beaches itself on the ramp since my opponent can no longer score points after Cease is called. That way, if I'm not confident I can win at KOTH, I can at least limit my opponent's point adavantage.

PS, I'm sorry if I'm being difficult, I just want to make sure I know exactly ~~which Robotoica Replica~~ what kind of bot to build.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2010, 09:27:09 PM »

hmm,good question
define dragging wedge plz.

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2010, 10:22:20 PM »

Quote from: S.T.C. on March 20, 2010, 09:27:09 PM

hmm,good question
define dragging wedge plz.

It doesn't have to be a dragging wedge per se, anything with a really really low ground clearance would have the effect.

S.T.C. · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2010, 10:46:40 PM »

You mean intentionally immobilize yourself to limit your opponents chances of getting lots of points in the KoTH? If so, its a very strategic, but a rather risky move imo.

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #39 on:** March 20, 2010, 11:41:24 PM »

Quote from: S.T.C. on March 20, 2010, 10:46:40 PM

You mean intentionally immobilize yourself to limit your opponents chances of getting lots of points in the KoTH? If so, its a very strategic, but a rather risky move imo.

The problem is that the scoring system is way off-balance. You can only get a maximum of 600 points in KOTH, whereas you can earn tens of thousands in the Clawtop challenge. What would your priority be?