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Title: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 02, 2017, 05:21:22 AM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79079Logo.gif)
So here we are once again.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33353Apocalypse.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80296Turbo Blasters.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83828BBS.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92120Phantom.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30360Flipster.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32538Meatwad.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49707Koros.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56690Hitler.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93275Neo Izzy.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69706Gulfstream.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34028Orbital Space Cannon.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48135Drgged.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22401Sawmp beast.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13552CarboniCe.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1516sleep in tokyo.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95626Bonesaw.png)

I will say, I lowered my expectations from last season.

Team Light:

Team Dark:

Bonesaw

No One Sleep In Tokyo

CarboniCe

800 KG Swamp Beast

Drugged-Up Stepsister

Orbital Space Cannon

Gulfstream

Neo-Izzy 1.5

Super Kawaii Hitler

Koros

Meatwad

Flipster 4: Evo

Phantom

Bloody Big Saw

Turbo Blaster 2000

Apocolypse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bygWUV-QyLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F42BEA3xgIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxAsddnaUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxGCNNcBXxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULj14t6Wso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlNUJyIAK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_F0OHEsoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_RbSmaFZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC_RejsvQMw

Team Light:

Team Dark:

Theorccorp

Badger

Most Epic music (https://youtu.be/ZkMWbq4oqME?t=1m27s)

DSC-CarboniCe vs No one sleep in Tokyo
DSC-CarboniCe vs Koros
Badger-No One Sleep in Tokyo vs Turbo Blaster 2000
TheRoboteer-Gulfstream vs Koros
TheRoboteer-Gulfstream vs Drugged-up stepsister
NeonCalypso-Neo-Izzy vs Gulfstream
NeonCalypso-Neo Izzy vs Flipster
Doot-Flipster vs Koros
Doot-Bonesaw vs phantom vs No one sleep vs Gulfstream
Badger-No One Sleep vs Koros

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 02, 2017, 05:24:37 AM

TIL Gulfstream is havoky. Never had that issue myself. Hope it doesn't prove to be a pain in the arse when you're recording.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on September 02, 2017, 05:28:22 AM

Orc for captain of team light o/

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Shield on September 02, 2017, 06:21:02 AM

Robot Evaluations and Why I Should Be Captain: I'm a man with a plan, and preparation is Step 1.

(Note: this post took lots of time to make due to shoddy internet. the formatting won't be the same throughout, and opinions change as you go down the list. This is a rambling evaluation, but at least i've actually evaluated the robots. If you're seeing this before this edit goes through, note that I think Hammerhead is better than what i gave it credit for originally.

Hammerhead (Team Dark/Ally): Sadly, probably the weakest of the team due to it's limited offense, but hopefully the frenzy hammer can pull off an upset or two.  Looks good. The armor and speed are it's best factors.

Challenge (Team Light/Enemy): It's fast, it's a gut ripper, but the supports for the egg beater make it easy to hit with a HS, and the wedges are limited so I reckon Dragoon, maybe Hammer head could be used to take this one out. Maybe Monster in the Parsol can take it out, as the overkillwedge will go under the eggbeater, and then the moros blade can hit the side of the egg beater supports and eventually can get to the eggbeater itself.

Crocodile smile: Is interesting, and has beaten Flipster before (RNP Violence), so if TGM is on Team light we've got a purpose built Flipster defeater, so we should hold onto Crocodile till we have a better chance of fighting flipster, or possibly Badger's flipper. Crocodile's an odd one though: he's really only good for picking up bots, pushing em around, slamming them about. I'm not sure that will work against all of our opponents. He's a niche bot, similar to B.B.S.

Executioner: Well bloody done Baconus, that's actually quite good.  :claping The tribar looks a bit odd but you've come a long way since Whacker and Hammatime. (use a Whyachi Tribar or do what i did for fighter next time perhaps) I still can't forgive you for what ever the hell you entered into our challenge match however, sorry. (joking.) This is probably our first choice robot for fighting Solaris, because I reckon Fighter would hit too high up to get the disc, and I don't think the Moros Blade of Jungle Party can beat the 2 Large Typhoon teeth.

Dragoon: MMMMMMMM. Looks good and with a gothic axe plus a sh**e load of wedges, this thing will do pretty well i think, but only if it fights a suitable opponent.

Solaris (Team Light/Enemy): Nasty looking HS, but as soon as the large teeth go i think it will start to lose it's fight. Jungle Party or Executioner to fight this, possibly Dragoon because of the sloped sides making it hard to land decisive blows, but not Fighter, as fighter's weaponry would probably hit the extender supports. Maybe Hammer head, because of the heavy plow on the front, but that's a last resort imo. If we could force Team Light's hand to get this bot out the way quickly, that'd be great, but IDK if we can. Plus those bloody flippers will be our biggest weakness imo.

Jungle Party(Team Dark/Ally): Why hello, Ray Billings. I haven't tested a moros blade, to be frank, but if Executioner doesn't fight Solaris, this should. It's also invertible, so the flippers may have a hard time.

Fighter Mk. II(Team Light/Ally/Own Entry): I feel this is proof i've come a long way from when i first started RA2, and especially a long way since Fighter and Brawler from Keep Your Enemies Close. Takes some time to spin up, but Gulden's AI'd it to back up after a hit, which is neato. It's got a weakness to being flipped, so the Captain (Which should be myself, drop out of the race Doot) cannot under any circumstances put me up against Badger's flipper or Flipster. (Especially Badger's Flipper)

Mecha Hitler (Team Light [for some reason]/Enemy/Literally Hitler): What. I reckon a flipper could take him out, but i don't think we have one. Crocodile Smile with a direct ram that lifts Hitler up and ootas him could work, but I feel he's too large to do that, and a error would end up pulling out all of the crocodile's teeth. Failing that, a tough as **** spinner might do the trick.

Monster in the parsol (Team Dark/Ally): can't tell from the half loaded image, but i'd say that's alright. A nippy spinner that might do some damage: probably useful as a safe bet, but that wedge being attached by a multiextender = dodgy wedge. A metal hinge would have been better. The wedge and wheels (which appear to be stacked) might take a good amount of hits, but this robot might not win. Not a bad robot by any means however.

Grindr(Team Light/Enemy): well f*** me that's a lot of saws. Feels very Black Hole (German Robot Wars champion, if you're wondering what i'm talking about)-esque. However, all those saws come at a cost of weight, and it appears that the extenders don't have armor panels. Also, i've got a feeling those extenders in much of the robot may be titanium, and possibly even aluminium due to weight. I think if you take a big, powerful spinner, you can turn Grindr back into it's constituent atoms. Or, if we get under him with BBS, we might get him beaten down. However, a front on attack will end up turning robots with weaponry that can't punt away Grindr into scrap metal. I'd send Jungle Party, Fighter, Executioner or

Paladin (Team Light/Enemy): Is that 3 bursts? Jesus christ. Hopefully they'll be the smaller bursts, such as the medium or smaller. If they are larger, he's definietly got less weight elsewhere, which reflects in his speed stat. Note I have't seen his armour stat, because of bad internet image loading. I think we may need to sacrifice a robot to this guy, maybe Hammerhead, or Monster in the Parsol. Sorry, you two. If he's slow, we might be able to spin up our HS's weapons before fighting him. And considering Jungle Party is invertible, if he's available when it comes to the point where fighting paladin is likely, he'll be our best shot. This is either somebody we lose to horribly, or we wait till it's likely we face him.

Axe Questions Later (Team Light/Enemy): It's dragoon, but built by a newb. I'll send Dragoon after him, or I'll send Big Black Saw if i want to get under him and cut him up.

Killshot (Team Light/Enemy): He's fast apparently, but a fast axe bot with no way to stop the opponent flying over the wedge is flawed in my opinion. Send a really stupidly fast robot at him, and he can't do sh**. Either that, or send a better axebot. Hence, we can send Hammerhead, or we can send Dragoon Evolution. Dragoon is better for spinners and flippers due to sloped sides, so send Hammerhead after this guy. Plus, hammerhead is fast as hell, so it'll disrupt his accuracy. Also, ive found that if Ironside Mk. IV, which uses a large pneumatic burst itself fires the burst and tips over onto it's back before it retracts finds it hard to self right. I think Killshot might suffer from this itself, so a fast robot that might force an error could win a battle. Perhaps Dragoon will be best for turning him over.

Big Black Saw (Team Dark/Ally): I think this is a niche robot: it looks cool, but it has to be precise with how it gets under it's opponents, has to attack from the front, and then needs to gut rip them without getting the saws hit at all. The supports around the saws may help with this but IDK. It looks cool tho.

The reason I want to be captain is that I have the ideas here, I just need the opportunity to put them into practice. Also, tournament records don't really matter when you are relying on other people's robots, so I think thats Doot's record advantage F1Krazy mentioned negated. I've explained my logic, I've got the plans, and I plan to adapt my plans to whatever the opposing captain does. I think that i'm the best for the Captain position, and remember you can still change your votes from Demon, people.

Also, while i'm doing a wall of text. the fact that the captain has to pick multiple robots to fight at the same time (including the next 4 in the first round, which is a right clusterf*** when it comes to strategy) means there's a nasty bit of luck involved in captaincy, Guldenflame, so I recommend for the next LvD tournament you fix that. Either that or I do a LvD ripoff that fixes that, but i'd rather you did a sequel to this.

TL:DR: I think our fights will be difficult, their flippers are gonna be an issue, no flippers on this team makes me sad, trust me, i have a plan, i'm thinking this through, what the f*** 090901, I will be best for Captain, change your vote if you trust me now.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 02, 2017, 07:15:34 AM

Gonna have to vote Roboteer for Team Captain, he's got some good wits and I feel he'd make good choices.  :smile:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 02, 2017, 07:37:52 AM

I too vote for Orc for Team Light captain.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on September 02, 2017, 08:05:30 AM

Badger for Captain of Darkmemes

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: 090901 on September 02, 2017, 08:06:01 AM

i vote myself  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 09:14:02 AM

I'm voting MR.AS as captain for no reason so here's my opinion on our competitors

Apocolypse: Reminds me of double agent, simple yet nice
TB2000: Spicy, If it outwedges someone it will pull a storm 2 here (at least)
BBS: Its like a cross between Wrecks and S3, might do well since its saw stack can deweaponize anything
Phantom: Hi orc, It's Biohazard but with more creativity
Flipster 4: When you launch your bots so hard it bounces of the walls to prevent oota, good luck with that
Meatwad: Hi there ringmaster, This looks basic and nice
Koros: The muscleman of the team, the Ziggo of LVD:R and the host of robogames isn't f*cking around
SKH: It actually won against Paladin, be very afraid
Neo-Izzy: I cant wait for KillerTurtleG To smite me for cloning his bot
Gulfstream: Br-Brother, why did you join the other side? Yea looks well armoured, basically Black Dog from ARC But not invertible
OSC: I-I don't like it, but it looks like behemoth with exposed wheels and copying TR's colour scheme
DUSS: It's a shame that Mecanum wheels dont work in RA2, She's avenging after I killed his Husband
Swamp Beast: 3rd place? Jokes aside it looks aight
Carbonice: The champion of Death Battle, and the biggest threat in this tournament so far
NOSIT: Its Carbonice but with a stronger motor, basically our wingman just like koros
Bonesaw: Nice hybrid, So Sawblaze and a mix of Lockjaw?

I'm hyped

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2017, 09:40:27 AM

Turbo Blaster 3 is going to carry team light, calling it now.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 02, 2017, 10:16:12 AM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 09:14:02 AM

Gulfstream: Br-Brother, why did you join the other side? Yea looks well armoured, basically Black Dog from ARC But not invertible

Gulfstream is technically invertible and is AIed as such, though the weapon hits the floor and and only the rear wheels touch the ground so the bot loses about 95% of its effectiveness

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 02, 2017, 01:18:24 PM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 09:14:02 AM

Flipster 4: When you launch your bots so hard it bounces of the walls to prevent oota, good luck with that

And that is why this arena was a bad choice!

Anyways, hyped for this!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 02, 2017, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 09:14:02 AM

I'm voting MR.AS as captain for no reason...

He's not on your team so...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 03:37:10 PM

Quote from: Guldenflame on September 02, 2017, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 02, 2017, 09:14:02 AM

I'm voting MR.AS as captain for no reason...

He's not on your team so...

Whoops, I'm taking badger to be captain

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: doot on September 02, 2017, 03:42:30 PM

C'mon, Badger, Make Team Dark Proud! :D

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kaiser on September 02, 2017, 05:27:14 PM

I also vote for Badger for Dark team captain.  :thumbup

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: RedAce on September 02, 2017, 07:18:51 PM

Oh right.  I forgot I entered this.

I'll vote Badger captain for Team Dark as well.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 02, 2017, 08:04:58 PM

Quote from: RedAce on September 02, 2017, 07:18:51 PM

I'll vote Badger captain for Team Dark as well.

This vote clinches Badger as Team Dark Captain unless people change their votes.

So I guess I'll set a deadline for Captain voting to sometime on the 4th of september.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Shield on September 03, 2017, 01:22:55 AM

id like to chane my vote to 09 as team capn

desu

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on September 03, 2017, 01:33:02 AM

i'm voting for orc because his avatar looks like shrek

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 03, 2017, 04:08:35 AM

Quote from: Mr. AS on September 03, 2017, 01:33:02 AM

i'm voting for orc because his avatar looks like shrek

I really need to update my avatar... XD

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 03, 2017, 04:43:55 AM

I vote Orc for team captain because 09 doesn't appreciate the majesty of tinned hot dogs

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 04, 2017, 02:19:00 PM

I'll give you guys a little under 2 more hours to vote.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 04, 2017, 04:01:37 PM

Congratulations to TheOrcCorp and Badger for becoming the team leaders.
Which means we'll be getting to the battles soon.

PM me the names of 4 robots to send into battle for the first episode.
Remember order counts...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 04, 2017, 10:02:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bygWUV-QyLI

Getting a sense of Deja-Vu as Team Dark takes another early lead.

Captains, this time only send me 2 robots.

Oh, and before anyone mentions it,  Shield's bot is not invertible nor can it self-right.  It's a bit of an issue.  (Especially when put against Koros)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 05, 2017, 01:53:01 AM

lol so you havok restart a won match, then MANUALLY count down my bot for it to lose? I think that's the most ridiculous loss I've ever seen -_-

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 05, 2017, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: Badger on September 05, 2017, 01:53:01 AM

lol so you havok restart a won match, then MANUALLY count down my bot for it to lose? I think that's the most ridiculous loss I've ever seen -_-

It did say in the rules on the signups that he was gonna be doing manual countdowns. Shouldn't really be a surprise and you should probably have raised it with him then if you've got an issue with it

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 05, 2017, 02:48:20 AM

Quote from: TheRoboteer on September 05, 2017, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: Badger on September 05, 2017, 01:53:01 AM

lol so you havok restart a won match, then MANUALLY count down my bot for it to lose? I think that's the most ridiculous loss I've ever seen -_-

It did say in the rules on the signups that he was gonna be doing manual countdowns. Shouldn't really be a surprise and you should probably have raised it with him then if you've got an issue with it

I would've assumed that that would be for OOTAs since the arena doesn't have OOTA zones. Regardless, I'm not going to go on an LRA2-style rant.

3-1 is a good start :)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 05, 2017, 04:36:31 AM

Well played so far Badger! :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 05, 2017, 01:29:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F42BEA3xgIs

1 and 1.  Which loss is worse?
Captains 2 bots once again.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 05, 2017, 01:59:30 PM

I've just noticed what music you've used for the first battle of this round...me likey!  ;)

In other news

Well we got rid of Bloody Big Saw, I'm happy...buuuuuut Team Light is down to half. Eep.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 05, 2017, 03:55:38 PM

Quote from: TheOrcCorp on September 05, 2017, 01:59:30 PM

I've just noticed what music you've used for the first battle of this round...me likey!  ;)

In other news

Well we got rid of Bloody Big Saw, I'm happy...buuuuuut Team Light is down to half. Eep.

CarboniCe did well aside from the tail activating too frequently, but it did good overall.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 05, 2017, 05:35:14 PM

Looks like the wall have claimed another victim... Izzy showing her potential is bretty good.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: 090901 on September 05, 2017, 07:07:17 PM

wtf jamied i told you to enter something that can ko at least we have dsc to carry the team

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 06, 2017, 02:10:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxAsddnaUE

And team light ties things up.  2 more robots captains.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on September 06, 2017, 04:26:21 PM

Theory: CarbonIce is a cat. Once again it toys with its prey for a while before finishing it

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 06, 2017, 05:03:13 PM

Quote from: jdg37 on September 06, 2017, 04:26:21 PM

Theory: CarbonIce is a cat. Once again it toys with its prey for a while before finishing it

Cats and boxes go hand in hand. Pleased to see Mr AS' bot get a match.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 06, 2017, 05:05:21 PM

Quote from: jdg37 on September 06, 2017, 04:26:21 PM

Theory: CarbonIce is a cat. Once again it toys with its prey for a while before finishing it

But, can it toy with flipster?

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 06, 2017, 05:25:14 PM

And now we're even...Team Dark has some great bots still up their sleeves though!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 08, 2017, 12:38:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxGCNNcBXxc

]It's now 3v3.  Just like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky3wRAZZ_JQ

1 Robot this time captains

Team Dark Lost Koros.  They're screwed...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 08, 2017, 12:51:25 PM

A FBS for a FBS, a fair trade I'd say (although Koros is kinda terrifying so I'm glad it's gone)! Getting down to the wire now!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2017, 06:13:38 PM

That's GG I think, not a single bot on my team can beat AS's pinner. Not really sure what I can do against it.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 09, 2017, 04:04:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULj14t6Wso

1 more robot captains.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 09, 2017, 05:36:58 PM

Well it started strongly for Team Light at least.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on September 09, 2017, 06:19:42 PM

something something something, luftwaffe

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 10, 2017, 02:09:50 PM

Flipster's on a roll killing mecha anime Fuhrer!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 12, 2017, 08:41:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlNUJyIAK8

Sorry to keep you waiting.

1 more robot captains.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 13, 2017, 05:30:19 AM

My precious cinnamon roll has been murdered reee R.I.P Izzy, at least you done a good job

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

Wow. I think I've found a new Paladin (which is the new term for a unfair to fight robot that is a PITA): AS's pinner. That's just incredibly cheap to just sit under the opponent and leave them limping, and those spike strips feel dangerously close to DSL-S. Then again, Team Dark has a 3-burst Flipper so I don't feel bad for them in the slightest. Also, a decent wedge would probably beat that.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on September 13, 2017, 08:36:45 AM

So again the bot with best wedges dominates. Complete Control but as more of a door stop

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 13, 2017, 08:53:54 AM

Today's menu: Cooked Team Dark bots, seasoned with an avalanche of salt.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 13, 2017, 09:14:38 AM

Quote from: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

Wow. I think I've found a new Paladin (which is the new term for a unfair to fight robot that is a PITA): AS's pinner. That's just incredibly cheap to just sit under the opponent and leave them limping, and those spike strips feel dangerously close to DSL-S. Then again, Team Dark has a 3-burst Flipper so I don't feel bad for them in the slightest. Also, a decent wedge would probably beat that.

Being salty, eh?

Made it to final 4. Im happy. Would like to fight Carbonice

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on September 13, 2017, 12:33:34 PM

Quote from: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

Wow. I think I've found a new Paladin (which is the new term for a unfair to fight robot that is a PITA): AS's pinner.

(https://i.imgur.com/KipPRaV.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/daY9UjT.jpg)

Quote from: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

and those spike strips feel dangerously close to DSL-S

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlebots/images/5/54/Bad_attitude_sf01.jpg)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 13, 2017, 01:25:08 PM

It's the frequency on the spike strips, they do so much damage idk how you've done it. Certainly not how it work work IRL unless they were a series of reciprocating saws or something which would be pretty neat

It's a shame that our team didn't have a wedged VS (or a Nightmare VS) to counter it now that I think of it. I think the only way to beat it is to outweapon it with a powerful HS (ours got eliminated to bad luck early on) or outwedge it (our team has no really good wedges)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 02:18:38 PM

Firstly, let's spare a thought for Gulden who's gonna have another Paladin war on his hands.

Secondly, let's ignore that thought and argue anyways.

AS's pinner could not work the way it does in-game in real life. It just couldn't. A rammer, wammer, pinner or sumo-bot (or any particular bot type that is blunt-force based) should not be able to sit under an opponent effectively immobile and straight-up kill it. Like, at least with Paladin it has to beat your wedges and flip you OOTA (even though that tends to be piss-easy with 3 bursts, but I digress). You just sit under them, cook the motors and tear off any armor with the spike strips.

And using Bad Attitude, a robot that used repeated rams and JD's to win fights instead of the (basically useless) blades on the wedge as an excuse is laughable considering that the blades on the RA2 robot have frequency from the skirt hinge they are mounted on.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 13, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

@AS Are the spike strips statically mounted? Because they do an impressive amount of damage.

@Avalanche I don't think it's the flamethrowers doing damage

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on September 13, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

Quote from: Badger on September 13, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

@AS Are the spike strips statically mounted? Because they do an impressive amount of damage.

They're on skirt hinges because those are easier to angle than trial-and-error'ing a static setup. Just pretend it's a row of chainsaws, or something. :dumb)

edit: Wonder if I could put a chainsaw in DSL 3...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 02:25:54 PM

Quote from: Badger on September 13, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

@AS Are the spike strips statically mounted? Because they do an impressive amount of damage.

@Avalanche I don't think it's the flamethrowers doing damage

I think the flamethrowers are certainly burning up the motors at the least. The spike strips kill, but the flamethrowers definitely rack up points and help wear down the motors and components.

Quote from: Mr. AS on September 13, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

Quote from: Badger on September 13, 2017, 02:20:51 PM

@AS Are the spike strips statically mounted? Because they do an impressive amount of damage.

They're on skirt hinges because those are easier to angle than trial-and-error'ing a static setup. Just pretend it's a row of chainsaws, or something. :dumb)

Chainsaws do not even remotely work that way. Or saws if we're being completely honest.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 13, 2017, 02:28:43 PM

The flamethrowers disable the motors, all the damage is from the spike strips. They jiggle around under pressure because they're on skirt hinges which is why they're doing so much damage. Pretty cool and very jewish.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 13, 2017, 03:17:24 PM

Quote from: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

Wow. I think I've found a new Paladin (which is the new term for a unfair to fight robot that is a PITA): AS's pinner.

I find it more comparable to crocodile smile in all honesty.

Anyways guys, while I support simple team fighting, directly attacking one robot saying it's 'cheap' or something along that line is not recommended.

Sooth yourself with a video instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_F0OHEsoA

Well that should help stop the screeching.
Team Dark, Send me the order which you will send your robots to fight CarboniCe.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 13, 2017, 03:22:27 PM

Karma. Glorious, glorious karma.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on September 13, 2017, 03:24:00 PM

Looks like I have to improve TB2K's wedge for the next time I enter it. ;)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 13, 2017, 03:31:44 PM

The streak ends! Ah well...means things are going to get interesting...even if that is for one match! xD

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 13, 2017, 03:40:40 PM

Thank god that bot's gone. Pretty cool but also very frustrating to see it tear through my team with nothing I can do. Maybe Orc feels the fame way about flipster.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 13, 2017, 03:41:49 PM

Quote from: Badger on September 13, 2017, 03:40:40 PM

Thank god that bot's gone. Pretty cool but also very frustrating to see it tear through my team with nothing I can do. Maybe Orc feels the fame way about flipster.

Flipster is powerful, that's for sure but I don't mind seeing it in action...it's kinda funny seeing robots being flung around left, right and centre!  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: dragonsteincole on September 13, 2017, 04:04:39 PM

Well here we go. If CarboniCe can get through Flipster, then it'll get through Apocalypse. But I have doubts about the first flight.
Either way, should be a fun video. :smile:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 13, 2017, 06:09:01 PM

TGM's ego is growing even larger every time his bot wins, not a suprise because all he does is to brag about his fragile flipper extenderbots.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 14, 2017, 12:14:23 AM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 13, 2017, 06:09:01 PM

TGM's ego is growing even larger every time his bot wins, not a suprise because all he does is to brag about his fragile flipper extenderbots.

Atleast my bot is doing it's job. You bot had how much? 1 pissing fight, and did it win? Nope. So shut up, and piss off!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 14, 2017, 12:21:16 AM

Quote from: TGM on September 14, 2017, 12:14:23 AM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 13, 2017, 06:09:01 PM

TGM's ego is growing even larger every time his bot wins, not a suprise because all he does is to brag about his fragile flipper extenderbots.

Atleast my bot is doing it's job. You bot had how much? 1 pissing fight, and did it win? Nope. So shut up, and piss off!

I feel like that was an over the top reaction.  I can't detect if this is sarcasm either... It's text.

If it really hit you that hard, settle it in a grudge match.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 14, 2017, 12:58:01 AM

Quote from: Guldenflame on September 14, 2017, 12:21:16 AM

Quote from: TGM on September 14, 2017, 12:14:23 AM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 13, 2017, 06:09:01 PM

TGM's ego is growing even larger every time his bot wins, not a suprise because all he does is to brag about his fragile flipper extenderbots.

Atleast my bot is doing it's job. You bot had how much? 1 pissing fight, and did it win? Nope. So shut up, and piss off!

I feel like that was an over the top reaction.  I can't detect if this is sarcasm either... It's text.

If it really hit you that hard, settle it in a grudge match.

Yeah sure, whatever you say.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 15, 2017, 02:30:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_RbSmaFZM

Congratulations Team Light for winning LvDR.  This was a lot more tense a finale than the original, however, I feel like it may have been spoiled by the video lengths.

My computer was freaking out for some reason during the fights, so I apologize for the lag.

Feel free to request grudge matches, and for the captains to send the order of their teams for the team rumble. 2 per person.

Dumb trivia: Drugged up stepsister, Turbo Blaster 2000, and CarboniCe were the only robots to win a fight on the light team.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 15, 2017, 02:39:52 PM

Congrats on winning DSC!
I knew it that i was about to lose. As i thought, it's disc was low and was protecting itself from my flipper. Srsly, couldnt lose to a better bot.
P.S. third place. I am happy (does it count as a third place?)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 15, 2017, 02:43:50 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96063VICTORY.gif)

Well done Team Light, we did it! Well done to Team Dark too, got very close several times: was a pleasure clashing blades with you guys. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 15, 2017, 02:44:02 PM

TY for the carry boiks

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 15, 2017, 02:44:41 PM

Quote from: TGM on September 15, 2017, 02:39:52 PM

P.S. third place. I am happy (does it count as a third place?)

Teams... There's only first and second.  However you could go by amount of kills...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 15, 2017, 03:00:50 PM

Quote from: Guldenflame on September 15, 2017, 02:44:41 PM

Quote from: TGM on September 15, 2017, 02:39:52 PM

P.S. third place. I am happy (does it count as a third place?)

Teams... There's only first and second.  However you could go by amount of kills...

Ahh... Still happy that it didnt go out in first round.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 15, 2017, 04:02:10 PM

Forgot to say,  you can have have up to 2 grudge matches per person.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2017, 05:05:12 PM

GG

Grudges:

My bot vs AS's
My bot vs carbonize


also I'm like 90% we would've won the whole tournament if gulden didn't give a havok/crash restart to drugged up stepsister on a won match for my bot, then started a manual countdown (???)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on September 15, 2017, 05:09:14 PM

Grudges:

My bot vs Doot's because he said at one point he thought my bot could beat his and I think he's mad
(mad as in insane that he thinks my bot can beat his, not mad as in angry, I should add)

My bot vs Jamie's because it beat me before and I wanna see if Gulfstream can deal with it.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 15, 2017, 05:51:45 PM

Grudge match

Me vs Mix, Let's settle this
TR vs Me, Battle of the drums

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: doot on September 15, 2017, 05:58:27 PM

Quote from: TheRoboteer on September 15, 2017, 05:09:14 PM

My bot vs Doot's because he said at one point he thought my bot could beat his and I think he's mad

reeeeeeee intensifies

Here are my suggestions:
FlipSter IV EVO VS Koros (I want to see if I can take on the best of Team Dark. :P)
Bonesaw VS Phantom VS No One Sleeps In Tokyo VS Gulfstream (First Losers Rumble. See who's the best of the 4.)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheOrcCorp on September 15, 2017, 06:04:26 PM

Quote from: DemonOfTomorrow on September 15, 2017, 05:58:27 PM

Quote from: TheRoboteer on September 15, 2017, 05:09:14 PM

My bot vs Doot's because he said at one point he thought my bot could beat his and I think he's mad

reeeeeeee intensifies

Here are my suggestions:
FlipSter IV EVO VS Koros (I want to see if I can take on the best of Team Light. :P)
Bonesaw VS Phantom VS No One Sleeps In Tokyo VS Gulfstream (First Losers Rumble. See who's the best of the 4.)

Would definitely be up for the Losers Rumble!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 15, 2017, 07:04:56 PM

Quote from: Badger on September 15, 2017, 05:05:12 PM

My bot vs carbonize

DSC requested this one the banter wars discord, so feel free to  change this one.

As for the rest, I'll update the OP soon.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 16, 2017, 12:08:51 AM

Quote from: DemonOfTomorrow on September 15, 2017, 05:58:27 PM

FlipSter IV EVO VS Koros (I want to see if I can take on the best of Team Light. :P)

N-nani

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on September 16, 2017, 01:30:49 AM

Quote from: DemonOfTomorrow on September 15, 2017, 05:58:27 PM

(I want to see if I can take on the best of Team Light. :P)

You already lost against Turbo Blaster 2000

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 16, 2017, 03:46:33 AM

oh cool, my bot vs Koros then

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 20, 2017, 01:04:20 AM

I think It's just implied Avalanche has a grudge against this entire tournament.  So here's his grudge match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYsxLSELPYA

Before anyone starts complaining, this is just for fun, and was completely rigged.  Let Avalanche have his moment in the spotlight just this once.

The other Grudges have been added to the OP finally.  Ey, Neon, what do you mean by Mix?

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 20, 2017, 05:59:19 AM

Quote from: Guldenflame on September 20, 2017, 01:04:20 AM

The other Grudges have been added to the OP finally.  Ey, Neon, what do you mean by Mix?

I meant TGM, also Izzy vs Solaris(assuming you have one in your teaser) Old self vs New self

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Badger on September 20, 2017, 06:08:27 AM

Wedges on hinges OP

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 20, 2017, 09:04:17 AM

Can i get Ava like treatment? Ofc not rigged. Just to see how good it was before i retire it.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on September 20, 2017, 09:37:25 AM

All that I care is that BBS's spinny rimz were visible 🤛😼🤜

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 28, 2017, 11:05:18 PM

0:00 Badger
5:20 DemonOfTomorrow
13:42 Dragonsteincole
18:53 NeonCalypso
24:34 TheRoboteer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLZhVozZzQ

Next is the rumbles.
There's the traditional rumble and the team rumble.
Captains, please send the order for the robots to enter the team rumble. (Remember it's 2v2)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 29, 2017, 03:18:18 AM

Will any of my robots be appearing in the rumble (team and/or traditional)? I ask because in Annihilation Nation, all robots that were submitted for grudge matches were included in the rumble.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: doot on September 29, 2017, 04:54:47 AM

should've won the first match Koros had :v

Though I gotta say, that's a monstrous 'bot I have made. Turns out I can make dangerous sh** that works. :D

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on September 29, 2017, 08:28:28 AM

Not happy with my bots overall performance tbh, I shall crawl back to the drawing board

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on September 29, 2017, 09:26:00 AM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on September 29, 2017, 08:28:28 AM

Not happy with my bots overall performance tbh, I shall crawl back to the drawing board

Hey! You bot is impressive. It slipped death one time!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on September 29, 2017, 12:42:23 PM

Quote from: Avalanche on September 29, 2017, 03:18:18 AM

Will any of my robots be appearing in the rumble (team and/or traditional)? I ask because in Annihilation Nation, all robots that were submitted for grudge matches were included in the rumble.

I'm gonna have to say, no.  It would just make the rumbles even more of a mess than they already are.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on September 29, 2017, 12:51:24 PM

Quote from: Guldenflame on September 29, 2017, 12:42:23 PM

Quote from: Avalanche on September 29, 2017, 03:18:18 AM

Will any of my robots be appearing in the rumble (team and/or traditional)? I ask because in Annihilation Nation, all robots that were submitted for grudge matches were included in the rumble.

I'm gonna have to say, no.  It would just make the rumbles even more of a mess than they already are.

I can see the Team rumble being an issue, but why not the traditional?

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Philippa on September 30, 2017, 12:47:53 PM

Because it wasn't in the tournament. Pretty simple.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on October 13, 2017, 12:14:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC_RejsvQMw

Captains, you now have 5 days to send me the teams.  The team rumble is all that's left.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 13, 2017, 07:59:36 AM

• Survived the most rounds
• Killed CarbonIce
• Killed TurboBlaster
• Eliminated by havok

Only  the havok engine can stop the Gulfstream  :gunz:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: doot on October 13, 2017, 08:59:27 AM

Quote from: TheRoboteer on October 13, 2017, 07:59:36 AM

• Survived the most rounds
• Killed CarbonIce
• Killed TurboBlaster
• Eliminated by havok

Only  the havok engine can stop the Gulfstream  :gunz:

If only Koros didnt fly out first  :dumb)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on October 31, 2017, 11:46:26 PM

Just a bit of an update.  The team rumble has been recorded, but the problem is that the first 5 out of 10 fights ended in havok eliminations. (With fight #9 also havok ending).  Due to this, I'm almost tempted to cancel the rumble.  Anyone supporting or objecting to this?

I can also try releasing the videos in an unedited format as well if people do support the cancellation.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: kix on November 01, 2017, 04:24:58 AM

Just release then uncut edition!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on November 03, 2017, 07:10:18 PM

Well, here's a poorly edited thing.
If a match kinda ended abruptly, it's because the game crashed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0PahsHfPa8

BBS carries the team.  Team Dark wins the rumble.

As for awards now you have 1 week.

Best Robot:
Worst Robot:
MVP:
Luckiest Robot:
Unlucky Robot:
Bot that deserves an Award but couldn't:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on November 03, 2017, 08:53:11 PM

...who won what now?...

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on November 04, 2017, 01:10:03 AM

Best Bot: Koros
Worst Bot: Orbital Space Cannon
MVP: Flipster 4
Luckiest Bot: Turbo Blaster 4000 (why is this allowed smh)
Unlucky Bot: No one sleeps in Tokyo
Btdaabc: Drugged-Up stepsister

Props for JDG for fighting till the end.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark: Rematch SBVA
Post by: Gulden on November 11, 2017, 06:41:14 PM

Quote from: NeonCalypso on November 04, 2017, 01:10:03 AM

Best Bot: Koros
Worst Bot: Orbital Space Cannon
MVP: Flipster 4
Luckiest Bot: Turbo Blaster 4000 (why is this allowed smh)
Unlucky Bot: No one sleeps in Tokyo
Btdaabc: Drugged-Up stepsister

These are the results.  Glad to see no one enjoys awards.
I'll close this soon.  Thanks for joining everyone.
The first one was better...

Also, the poll in my sig has been updated for a more detailed version of the 2 possible tournaments. (As it was a tie currently)

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