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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2014, 02:40:51 PM »
also what about big/long major tournaments getting extensions? what would we classify as long? what would the extension be?

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2014, 02:43:11 PM »
I'd like to hear MassimoV/Click's thoughts on that bit.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2014, 02:44:31 PM »
I don't think the host should be banned if they don't get enough entries to move the tournament forward, personally.
Literally what are you talking about.

There have been tournaments that recieved a grand total of 4 entries but have still gone through and finished their tournies, cases in point (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13652.0 and https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=14291.0). There's no excuse not to finish a tourney because "hurf durf i dont have enough entries so i give up".

And the two tournaments you mentioned were when I left GTM, sorry for not keeping up on everything


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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2014, 07:05:55 PM »
There have been tournaments that recieved a grand total of 4 entries but have still gone through and finished their tournies, cases in point (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13652.0 and https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=14291.0). There's no excuse not to finish a tourney because "hurf durf i dont have enough entries so i give up".


When only 4 of the 16 or so who put that they would enter in the poll actually bother and send in last minute bots/re-entries despite signups being open for 1-2 weeks already, there is literally no point. It's demoralising. You decide to do something and all you get is people not bothering or sending in 5 second builds. Put me off of hosting for at least a year, that. Why bother hosting another if you'll probably get the same outcome?

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2014, 08:30:37 PM »
When only 4 of the 16 or so who put that they would enter in the poll actually bother and send in last minute bots/re-entries despite signups being open for 1-2 weeks already, there is literally no point. It's demoralising.
A 4 bot tourney is better than a no bot tourney.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #105 on: June 09, 2014, 01:32:17 AM »
what about the silly soul who decides to run an UHW tourney?

We know how those tend to go :P

I'm still waiting on one of those.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2014, 01:41:11 AM »
what about the silly soul who decides to run an UHW tourney?

We know how those tend to go :P

I'm still waiting on one of those.
You'd think after all this time we'd have someone "brave" enough to try this. Or have we?



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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2014, 01:42:24 AM »
Allegedly Clickbeetle ran one a few years ago, or at least that's what I've heard.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #108 on: June 09, 2014, 01:47:45 AM »
Now that I think about it, Clash of the Titans was a UHW tournament, but that was Somebody who hosted it.



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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2014, 08:35:49 AM »
what about the silly soul who decides to run an UHW tourney?

We know how those tend to go :P

I'm still waiting on one of those.
You'd think after all this time we'd have someone "brave" enough to try this. Or have we?

Somebody hosted one. And I would love to host my own too. Right after I finish up Undisputed
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #110 on: July 31, 2014, 06:26:20 PM »
Okay. To bring this back up, some new ideas.
No changes to Minor League rules.
Major League running time reduced to 9 months, tournament ban if deadline lapses extended to a year.
Thoughts? It's pretty brutal but if people want to run big tournaments, they should deliver surely.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #111 on: July 31, 2014, 06:35:35 PM »
Okay. To bring this back up, some new ideas.
No changes to Minor League rules.
Major League running time reduced to 9 months, tournament ban if deadline lapses extended to a year.
Thoughts? It's pretty brutal but if people want to run big tournaments, they should deliver surely.
Make running time equal to ban time.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #112 on: July 31, 2014, 08:57:00 PM »
Okay. To bring this back up, some new ideas.
No changes to Minor League rules.
Major League running time reduced to 9 months, tournament ban if deadline lapses extended to a year.
Thoughts? It's pretty brutal but if people want to run big tournaments, they should deliver surely.
Make running time equal to ban time.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #113 on: August 01, 2014, 02:47:47 AM »
keep it as it is

Or better, get rid of tourney rules forever

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2014, 03:04:31 AM »
get rid of tourney rules forever

yeah that sounds like a great idea said no one
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #115 on: August 31, 2014, 01:39:51 AM »
I think you should give people leeway if they're literally racing against the clock to finish their tournament.  If someone clearly intends to finish their torunament, it's not fair to them or the entrants to serve up such a huge disincentive.  Stuff happens IRL and the best laid plans go astray.

I propose an "Intent to Finish Clause."  If your time limit expires, but you posted a video less than 72 hours ago, you're fine, and you may continue without penalty for as long as you post a fight every three days.  Once you fill 50% of the defecit, that time limit gets expanded.  The numbers can be adjusted by someone with more tourney experience but my intuition calls that a reasonable expectation.

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2014, 03:06:02 AM »
We've already got that kind of system in place, as 'conditional extensions' which are generally given week by week as long as a set quota of videos are posted.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #117 on: August 31, 2014, 03:15:52 AM »
We've already got that kind of system in place, as 'conditional extensions' which are generally given week by week as long as a set quota of videos are posted.
  I'm thinking of situations  where you'd gladly finish but couldn't do so even if you forewent food and sleep

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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
« Reply #118 on: August 31, 2014, 04:28:35 AM »
That's where discretionary extensions can be awarded, which are a clauseless extension for people who have faced issues.
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Re: IMPORTANT CHANGES: Tournament Rule Change Discussion
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