Please do not reserve spots. All tournaments should be first-come first-served.
I thought the minimum number of entrants was 8? Not that it matters. I'll be entering!
Tournament by Hi5er? Of course I'm entering(I just need to finally fix the AI problem with my bot that's been in the AI section for weeks)
I've wanted to talk to you about unique bots and a few other things(including the "GTM is going down" since I don't seem to have the same view as most members), might as well do that once we try out that multiplayer.
While I can see why reserved spots weren't allowed in the past(it would give everyone the chance to enter, not always the same people) I think that they wouldn't be a problem now, since if anything, tournaments have problems of getting people, and allowing the ones that are interested to enter(like I mentioned in Badger's the People's Choice Tournament, by showing progress updates of your bot at least once a week or so to keep the reserved spot) is better than just having quick rushed entries and not giving the people that are interested time just ends up in them saying "eh **** it, won't bother with tournaments".
Nice to see that this is Robot Wars like, every bot fighting every and in two rounds to make it even more fair. Only issue I see is that there will be a lot of wedge bots but the one I plan on entering can surprisingly deal with them.
As for Cheatbot components, never really seen the magnets in use so I can't say how they are, Cannon does seem to glitch after a few uses but dunno if it would be gamebreaking.
Edit: I think it's best to not allow Magnets and Cannons for now. I've quickly done some tests and surprisingly got both working this time(Cannon worked until the end, think putting it on servos glitched it last time, and magnets need the same control as Flamethrowers) but I think more tests would be required to see how effective and gamebreaking they can be.
So It's basically swiss format
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournamentSo It's basically swiss format
:ermm: Whats that?
Wait, I thought that was called round robin?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournamentSo It's basically swiss format
:ermm: Whats that?
But yeah. I'll enter. I probably have something lying my Robot Designs folder around that I can enter.
This tournament is round robin. The swiss system is completely different, and involves a set number of rounds where each competitor is matched up with another competitor who has the same amount of points, or if this is not possible, a similar amount of points.Wait, I thought that was called round robin?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournamentSo It's basically swiss format
:ermm: Whats that?
But yeah. I'll enter. I probably have something lying my Robot Designs folder around that I can enter.
glad that's all straightened out :smile:Did open up the wiki entry to see why it's called like that and quickly saw that it was different than round robin, but yeah this system definitely makes it nice for tournaments as you can still score points even if your bot has trouble against some designs.
Also something I wanted to mention, "A HS may not have a total of more than 2 weapons stacked per attachment point." The lines after this make it obvious but you might want to rewrite it that a bot can either have 1 HS tribar with 6 weapons or 2 HS tribars with one weapon each. As for Discs, I'd have the same rule as tribars, sure you get two more weapons but discs have a way bigger hitbox and are much more fragile because of it.
You don't have the flamethrower yet? If you have 1.4 then you definitely do have it.
If you think people will rush bad entries for first-come first-served, then increase the entry limit (which you need to do, btw, as the entry minimum is 8.)
It's much better than 4 really sh** builders reserving a spot because they happen to be online before the rest.
glad that's all straightened out :smile:Did open up the wiki entry to see why it's called like that and quickly saw that it was different than round robin, but yeah this system definitely makes it nice for tournaments as you can still score points even if your bot has trouble against some designs.
I guess we are allowed to update our entries until the tournament gets recorded, right? And a bot getting counted out still gives 3 points?(I think it should, during testing I ran into situations where the other bot couldn't move but mine could've easily finished it off)
Also what about the tribar/disc part I mentioned?QuoteAlso something I wanted to mention, "A HS may not have a total of more than 2 weapons stacked per attachment point." The lines after this make it obvious but you might want to rewrite it that a bot can either have 1 HS tribar with 6 weapons or 2 HS tribars with one weapon each. As for Discs, I'd have the same rule as tribars, sure you get two more weapons but discs have a way bigger hitbox and are much more fragile because of it.
You don't have the flamethrower yet? If you have 1.4 then you definitely do have it.
Meh... I've just upped the capacity. I was just conscious that this is my first tournament hosting experience and I didn't want to bite off more than I could chew...It's more case law from what I've seen GK and/or Craaig enforce before and I am keeping it that way.
I still think as I'm going to be away during the main build time it would be better for spots to be reserved... Is it explicitly against the rules?
Also something I wanted to mention, "A HS may not have a total of more than 2 weapons stacked per attachment point." The lines after this make it obvious but you might want to rewrite it that a bot can either have 1 HS tribar with 6 weapons or 2 HS tribars with one weapon each. As for Discs, I'd have the same rule as tribars, sure you get two more weapons but discs have a way bigger hitbox and are much more fragile because of it.
Sorry to be nitpicky about something I'm not going to do here, but you ARE aware that your rules say nothing about AAM, right?It also doesn't mention Crawlers, but I think the description of the tournament should make it obvious what it's supposed to be and Hi5er can ban every bot that tries to loophole around the spirit of this tournament:
And also that this hasn't been moved to signups?
I reserve the right to reject any robot who tries to be clever and get around this rule, or I feel is simply not embracing the spirit of this tournament, however, I must stress that VS, Drums, HS/VS Hybrids, Gut rippers, jugglers etc, are absolutely fine to submit, providing they comply with the above.
Good lads! :bigsmile:You already mentioned me and the HS in the post before that :P. For me it's clear but I thought that it might be better to make it clear for other users, also I'd allow 8 weapons on a single HS disc(since you can have 6 weapons on a single tribar, and tribars are way less fragile than discs). It doesn't affect my entry, so if you don't want to have that, I'm still ok with it.
No joke entries Boto, I wanna see your physical heart poured into this.Also something I wanted to mention, "A HS may not have a total of more than 2 weapons stacked per attachment point." The lines after this make it obvious but you might want to rewrite it that a bot can either have 1 HS tribar with 6 weapons or 2 HS tribars with one weapon each. As for Discs, I'd have the same rule as tribars, sure you get two more weapons but discs have a way bigger hitbox and are much more fragile because of it.
Also edited the wording slightly to make the HS rule more clear!
Nice one R01, some good points there.Nice, also added you for multiplayer.
Rules amended as follows:
- No crawlers
- Bots must show controlled movement through 2 or more powered wheels.
- Max of 8 weapons on a single HS mounted disc, 4 per disc if using 2.
I've included it in the rules now either way.
Yugi, can we move this to signups now please? I'd like this finalised before Sunday so everyone can get building!
People need to start getting into the habit of pm'ing me this request.
Pop-ups BANNED.I can't enter
I've included it in the rules now either way.
Yugi, can we move this to signups now please? I'd like this finalised before Sunday so everyone can get building!People need to start getting into the habit of pm'ing me this request.
Yes you can Wen.Fine
Believe in Papyrus Bike. He fits the rules perfectly.
Hi5er presents: The Sui Generis WarsThis is now a signups topic and the rules above may not change. Good luck and enjoy, you've got 3 months :)
(Splash to be uploaded tonight)
Forward:
Rules:
Format:
My entry:
I am away from the 21st – 31st August on holiday, so recording will take place after that. As such, the cut off for entries will be 1st September 2016 so that everyone has a good 2 weeks to get their designs finalised. Depending on the interest I would initially be limiting this to 8 entries (1 bot per person, including my own), but may extend this if interest picks up.
Entrants:
1. Hi5er
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Black: Received
Green: received, AI'd and accepted.
Red: Issue
Waiting List:
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Have I missed anything?
*HS Rules:
Did you get my submission fam
^Did you get my submission fam
Same.
can I enter a weaponed flipper like this or is too close to a popup
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31177bvke.png)
could I enter something that's a low wedge with guite a few motors and for weaponry it has a bunch of spike strips on the wedge?
I'm surprised that my bot got in 5th, given how I sent it in as soon as possible.
Looking at the recent stock showcases, I think that my bot will really have a bad time with those.
Mixed thoughts about the weaponed flipper, for one "come on, we have a tournament and the next similar thing to a popup gets entered", on the other hand weaponed flippers are rather rare and the only real way to make flippers win stuff outside of OOTA's, so it should be all good to enter.
As usual, the stacking amazes me.
The design has been around for a while and you still sometimes see flippers. Technically a popup with razors replaced for spike strips can already count as weaponized flipper, but it's nice seeing something that looks more like Mystic2000's Tricycle Takedown entry. I'd say as long as not everyone starts entering weaponized flippers, it's totally alright.I'm surprised that my bot got in 5th, given how I sent it in as soon as possible.
Looking at the recent stock showcases, I think that my bot will really have a bad time with those.
Mixed thoughts about the weaponed flipper, for one "come on, we have a tournament and the next similar thing to a popup gets entered", on the other hand weaponed flippers are rather rare and the only real way to make flippers win stuff outside of OOTA's, so it should be all good to enter.
As usual, the stacking amazes me.
Me too mate, the response has been incredible! You really were number 5 to send in a bot :laughing (including me).
I had mixed thoughts about the weaponised flipper as well, but to me it is a unique design (when do we see flippers?) and gives the bot a way to win without relying on an OOTA. It's certainly taken more skill to build than a pop-up as well so I think it's fair game.
Technically a popup with razors replaced for spike strips can already count as weaponized flipperno it isn't it's still a popup dude. you can make a weaponed flipper with razors if you wanted to, it just wouldn't be any good because razors only have 500 hp compared to every other weapon in stock
True, a flipper focuses more on flipping opponents out of the arena with low damage output while the popup focuses more on damage. But how would you do a front hinged flipper and in what category would you put Fracture's bot from your recently hosted tournament?Technically a popup with razors replaced for spike strips can already count as weaponized flipperno it isn't it's still a popup dude. you can make a weaponed flipper with razors if you wanted to, it just wouldn't be any good because razors only have 500 hp compared to every other weapon in stock
fracture's bot is a popup, just a very powerful one that gave it amazing OOTA capability. nobody even makes front hinge flippers in stock anyways.Well, what if someone ever does? Also what about True Popups?
plus popups are made to go for KO's while weaponed flippers go for the OOTA while maybe trying to earn some points, i don't recall ever seeing a weaponed flipper that could get KO's
Already mentioned that before :PTrue, a flipper focuses more on flipping opponents out of the arena with low damage output while the popup focuses more on damage. But how would you do a front hinged flipper and in what category would you put Fracture's bot from your recently hosted tournament?Technically a popup with razors replaced for spike strips can already count as weaponized flipperno it isn't it's still a popup dude. you can make a weaponed flipper with razors if you wanted to, it just wouldn't be any good because razors only have 500 hp compared to every other weapon in stock
Hey guys, I have returned from holiday.Hey, I was worried if something happened. Also you should possibly get Discord and get on the GTM discord server(be warned about it if you haven't heard how GTM Playground/Sandbox is like)
I have received a number of extra entries so I may have to disappoint a few people... :(
I will begin reviewing everyone's designs and getting this underway shortly!
So is this going anywhere?