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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 10:52:12 AM

Title: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
RULES:

- NAR AI HW (no cheaty NAR parts, just the re-skins)
- Multibots ARE allowed
- No cheat or custom components
- No BFE or AAM
- Stacking is allowed
- Hell's Arena (see below)
- 16 entrants
- Nobody can be entered until a bot is received and accepted
- Realistic Rule applies loosely
- I would prefer for you to AI, but I can AI myself.
- Skinning your bot outside the bot lab is OK.
- No castor armor (it's DSL, ok?)
- No NARmour

It will be kind of like Hell's Kitchen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell%27s_Kitchen_%28U.S.%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell%27s_Kitchen_%28U.S.%29)), only with RA2. THERE WILL BE ONLY 16 ENTRANTS! I will use The Hat to decide which team each contestant will be on, and each week, they will face a challenge with a randomly selected type of bot that they will have to build, and face off against an AI bot from a random AI pack of the same type. Each builder will compete against an AI bot of the same type, and the team with the most match-wins will win that week.

Each week, my decision will be to eliminate the person that I think "performed" (built their bot) the worst
from the 2 nominees that the losing team's Best of the Worst builder chooses.

(I will not sign up, because I will be hosting.)

Arena:
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Scorpion on December 23, 2010, 11:11:07 AM
Perhaps it would be better if it was a few people who decided which bot was best?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:11:44 AM
Did you even read the rules for hosting?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:11:44 AM
Did you even read the rules for hosting?

No. Sorry, I was away.

Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P

No, 2 teams of 8 each.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: ACAMS
DO NOT INCLUDE OR ASK FOR SIGN-UPS IN DISCUSSION, that must be done in Signups section.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: ACAMS
DO NOT INCLUDE OR ASK FOR SIGN-UPS IN DISCUSSION, that must be done in Signups section.

Oh...

First post edited.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
This really isn't going to work. People will complain when you eliminate them, as you can't prove that this was fair.

Also, this sounds like it will take AGES to complete:

16 Entrants = 15 Rounds = 15 Weeks + Time Inbetween to film & post videos

I predict this will take easily 20 weeks in brackets & vids

Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P

No, 2 teams of 8 each.
Still copying :P

Quote from: freeziez
Well, I'm back! w00t.

But just till January 3rd.
You REALLY think you'll have enough time to host this between now & then?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P

No, 2 teams of 8 each.
Still copying :P
I'm sure teams have been done before...
*coughs*
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P

No, 2 teams of 8 each.
Still copying :P
I'm sure teams have been done before...
*coughs*
Yeah, so am I...

Owait, RA2TC!

Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Not really, the concept of teams were used in many ways.
1. Tag Team: Bots are built together, to fight together. (e.g. Tag Team Tornado)
2. Team Building: Bot/bots are built by multiple members. (Chinese Whispers)
3. Mixed team battle: Many events done by team members. (RA2TC)
4. This idea: Two teams who's members are chosen at random to compete (No choice in the matter).
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
God, I only left for 10 minutes!

Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
This really isn't going to work. People will complain when you eliminate them, as you can't prove that this was fair.

Also, this sounds like it will take AGES to complete:

16 Entrants = 15 Rounds = 15 Weeks + Time Inbetween to film & post videos

I predict this will take easily 20 weeks in brackets & vids

Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Teams? You copied me :P

No, 2 teams of 8 each.
Still copying :P

Quote from: freeziez
Well, I'm back! w00t.

But just till January 3rd.
You REALLY think you'll have enough time to host this between now & then?

But by then, my RA2 and GTM ban should be lifted, so I'll be back on for good.

And Vertigo, why you gotta be so adopted? Let me be.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Not really, the concept of teams were used in many ways.
1. Tag Team: Bots are built together, to fight together. (e.g. Tag Team Tornado)
2. Team Building: Bot/bots are built by multiple members. (Chinese Whispers)
3. Mixed team battle: Many events done by team members. (RA2TC)
4. This idea: Two teams who's members are chosen at random to compete (No choice in the matter).
If I am not mistaken, he is copying Chinese Whispers SM...

1. Bot type is selected
2. Team build bot TOGETHER
3. Battle
4. The losing team decides who contributed the least
5. Freeziez decides who is eliminated

Anyway, what happened to ToA?

@Freeziez: I have no problem with you, I just don't know how this will work
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on December 23, 2010, 11:58:02 AM
You donkey!  That robot's undercooked!
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on December 23, 2010, 11:58:02 AM
You donkey!  That robot's undercooked!
lol
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: SKBT on December 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on December 23, 2010, 11:58:02 AM
You donkey!  That robot's undercooked!

No its...
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: Vertigo on December 23, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on December 23, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Not really, the concept of teams were used in many ways.
1. Tag Team: Bots are built together, to fight together. (e.g. Tag Team Tornado)
2. Team Building: Bot/bots are built by multiple members. (Chinese Whispers)
3. Mixed team battle: Many events done by team members. (RA2TC)
4. This idea: Two teams who's members are chosen at random to compete (No choice in the matter).
If I am not mistaken, he is copying Chinese Whispers SM...

1. Bot type is selected
2. Team build bot TOGETHER
3. Battle
4. The losing team decides who contributed the least
5. Freeziez decides who is eliminated

Anyway, what happened to ToA?

@Freeziez: I have no problem with you, I just don't know how this will work


1. No. I choose the contestant that contributed the most from the losing team, and name them Best of the Worst. After each member tries to convince the BoW why they should stay, the BoW tells me the 2 people they thought contributed the least and nominate them. I choose which one I thought performed the worst, and send them home.

2. Scrapped it. I realized that it was too generic of a tourney.

3. OK. Sorry.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Horror on December 23, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
I Lol'd at SKBT. Anyway, this could be interesting...
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on December 23, 2010, 06:27:15 PM
Might join.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Preytor_4 on December 23, 2010, 11:31:56 PM
There should be like a special guest or something that helps with the voting each week
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Scorpion on December 24, 2010, 03:52:20 AM
Quote from: Preytor_4 on December 23, 2010, 11:31:56 PM
There should be like a special guest or something that helps with the voting each week
A special guest?
Like who, delia smith?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Preytor_4 on December 24, 2010, 10:41:05 AM
No, each week a different GTM member would judge with Freez
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 24, 2010, 11:04:05 AM
But (hopefully) there won't be enough willing members left for 16 episodes of guest-judging.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Preytor_4 on December 24, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
I would be willing to help (if this ever happens)
EDIT: Nice arena skin
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 24, 2010, 11:13:23 AM
Quote from: Preytor_4 on December 24, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
EDIT: Nice arena skin

Thanks. That's what I can do with 8 seasons of Hell's-Kitchen-watching, Paint, pictures.com, and a spare 5 minutes. :)
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: GoldenFox93 on December 24, 2010, 11:13:54 AM
Needs moar seasoning    :D
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: russian roulette on December 24, 2010, 12:57:45 PM
Elimination tourneys just won't work. You'll run out of ideas... fast! And for the time and proper work to be put into one is butt kicking. But I could be wrong. My tourney was too specific, yours JUST MIGHT work.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Clickbeetle on December 26, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
Tourney of Awesomeness was a good idea.  I would have entered it if it ever got into signups.


This, on the other hand... I'm afraid you're biting off more than you can chew.  (Pun not intended.)


As others pointed out, the tourney would take forever to complete, and because it also requires competitors to build new bots each round, you run the risk of people losing interest and procrastinating and holding up the whole tourney, like what happened with Brawl of the Builders.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on December 27, 2010, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Clickbeetle on December 26, 2010, 03:05:56 PM
Tourney of Awesomeness was a good idea.  I would have entered it if it ever got into signups.


This, on the other hand... I'm afraid you're biting off more than you can chew.  (Pun not intended.)


As others pointed out, the tourney would take forever to complete, and because it also requires competitors to build new bots each round, you run the risk of people losing interest and procrastinating and holding up the whole tourney, like what happened with Brawl of the Builders.

Well, you're probably right, Click. But I like the idea and everything I've come up with so far, and I'm gonna make this work.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Hard Bot on January 16, 2011, 09:12:28 PM
We be bots form NAR AI?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
English Please.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on January 17, 2011, 10:20:08 AM
Quote from: Hard Bot on January 16, 2011, 09:12:28 PM
We be bots form NAR AI?

You will make bots from NAR AI, but none of those cheaty NAR parts. :P


Quote from: Sypher878 on January 16, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
English Please.

I could understand it, so it must be English.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Hard Bot on January 17, 2011, 11:58:21 AM
Does bot file editing count?
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Stagfish on January 17, 2011, 12:10:55 PM
Read the rules, it clearly states no BFE.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Hard Bot on January 17, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Can I enter Grog, the Reconsurruction? I built him with no bot file editing.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 17, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: Hard Bot on January 17, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Can I enter Grog, the Reconsurruction? I built him with no bot file editing.

No offence is meant by this but there is a spell checker right there. It comes in handy for me:P
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on January 17, 2011, 03:44:19 PM
Quote from: Sypher878 on January 17, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: Hard Bot on January 17, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Can I enter Grog, the Reconsurruction? I built him with no bot file editing.

No offence is meant by this but there is a spell checker right there. It comes in handy for me:P

LOL



Quote from: Hard Bot on January 17, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Can I enter Grog, the Reconsurruction? I built him with no bot file editing.

Why would I answer? Your shouldn't be asking me, especially publicly, about this.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on January 20, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
You could keep that vote...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: 090901 on January 22, 2011, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Each week, my decision will be to eliminate the person that I think "performed" (built their bot) the worst
from the 2 nominees that the losing team's Best of the Worst builder chooses.
This would take too long, plus it's longer then 90 days that you are allowed.
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Scorpion on January 22, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Larrain on January 16, 2011, 09:46:15 PM
More like correct grammar :P

I'll have to punch Scorpion in the face for either not paying enough attention to the arena's skin or just not commenting on it :rolleyes:
If you're referencing the incredible dream theater instrumental of the same name, I've fallen in love with you :P
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: freeziez on January 22, 2011, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: 090901 on January 22, 2011, 11:24:40 AM
Quote from: freeziez on December 23, 2010, 10:52:12 AM
Each week, my decision will be to eliminate the person that I think "performed" (built their bot) the worst
from the 2 nominees that the losing team's Best of the Worst builder chooses.
This would take too long, plus it's longer then 90 days that you are allowed.

"Week" in the game; I'll limit myself to every other day or even every day.

BTW, it doesn't look like I'll get 3 votes in 31 hours, so this might not even start. :'-(
Title: Re: Hell's Arena
Post by: Scorpion on January 22, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: Larrain on January 22, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: Scorpion on January 22, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
If you're referencing the incredible dream theater instrumental of the same name, I've fallen in love with you :P
Of course I referenced that :P
And I hope you meant that last thing in a "metaphorical" sense o.o
YAY for referencing an obscure song from an obscure band :P
And, err, yeah, ofcourse I was joking about that, hehe  :ermm:
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