FullImpact - Signups

[Agaton]

Signups closes 2015-04-13
To enter, build your bot accordingly to the rules below. Then send me a pm containing your bot as well as its bindings and ai.py file if custom. There are several tutorials on how to implement an AI to your bot. I prefer this one. Ask if any questions.
Good luck!

Signups:

• Kurt Wylde
• jaydee99
• Paranoia
• Craaig
• 090901

Tournament format: 

  8 entrants will be split up in to 2 groups by random. Matches will be 1v1 round-robin. The winner from each group will go straight to semi-finals without fear of facing each other. Bot 2 and 3 of each group will also move on, while the last bot from each group will be out of the tourney. If two bots end up on the same score, general RR rules apply. If 3 bots end up with the same score, then a tie-breaker will be held (1v1v1) The bot that gets eliminated first (or if times up, score the lowest amount of points) will finish last of the three, then general RR rules apply.  The bot finishing second in each group will then fight against third placed bot from the other group to decide the other two semifinalists. Screenshot to hopefully help out with the explanation:

All matches will be one round. In round-robins this small, tie-breakers are not uncommon, so be prepared. 

General Rules:

• DSL 2.1
• Ruleset - DSL IRL
• Weight class - Heavyweight "HW" (up to 800.0 kg)
• 8 entrants
• One entry per person.
• Bots has to be AI'd before sent. (this means bindings has to be included when sending your bot)
• If your bot is declined, you will have 48h to send a updated version before loosing your spot in queue. If the updated version is once again declined you'll loose your spot.
• You're not allowed to update your bot once it has been approved unless there's a rule change.
• Nobody can be entered until a bot is received and accepted.
• Champion: Tournament Champion will be awarded with fireworks and a decal. The winning bot will automatically enter the (hopefully) second installment of FullImpact. The builder will receive a second spot as well.
• Bots that didn't make it out the group stage are not allowed to enter future FullImpact tournaments without serious changes.

Building Rules:

• Weight class: Heavyweight "HW" (up to 800.0 kg)
• Realistic rule. From what I understand, Most seem to have come to terms regarding this, to me, somewhat subjective style. The entries for The Great Round Robin 2 https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16577.0 gives an indication of what kind of entries I expect for FullImpact.
• In-game glitches are allowed since I doubt one can abuse it without breaking realistic rule, pls let me know if this ain't the case.
• BFE is allowed for chassis design as long as bot stays realistic. All other external editing is forbidden.
• Clusterbots (max 2) are allowed, their combined weight shall not exceed 800.0 kg.
• No custom components except Madiaba's Smart Zones v3.
• No armour attached to the underside of the baseplate.
• No Narmour
• Cheatbot2 components: MOE motor, Judge Burst (max 2)

Battle rules:

• 3 minute matches.
• Official Robot Arena 2 Tournament Arena
• Hazards On.
• Judging will be scored by points.
• If Havok, match will be restarted.
  If the same bot causes Havok two times in a row during a match that bot will be disqualified, loosing the match. This rule only applies during group stage.

I will only enter if necessary. My entry is Forester

[RedAce]

Sure, I'll enter. For things you wanted to discuss, I suggest either MW or HW for a weight class, I would allow the Judge Burst and Maybe the MOE motor for cheatbot2 components, and for BFE, I'd allow it to a certain degree to where it stays realistic. Otherwise I think everything else is fine except this:

• Bots has to be AI'd before sent.

It's mainly that people may not know how to AI or don't have the time. If you really want them to AI themselves, then make sure they don't complain about how you AI'd it. That's my opinion anyway, I know you might not agree with me.

[R1885]

Ugh, another IRL DSL, I'm out.

[Badnik96]

lol, the guy that started the first IRL tourney doesn't even want to enter them anymore

[Natef]

wait he did the first irl tourney

[helloface]

Weight class. How about Cruiserweight? It's like a middleweight with more room to make things pretty. Superheavyweight could be interesting too.
BFE and glitches. Should be allowed as long as it stays IRL[/n]
Cheatbot2 components. As long as they're not overpowered why not?
Prize. Doesn't need one, but if you could think of something there's no harm in doing so
Overall interest. I might do something if I get over builder's block

as a side note, if you need help determining whether or not a bot is IRL, judging, or anything else feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to help. Good luck.
edit: 3000th post, cool

[Shield]

Joining

[helloface]

wait he did the first irl tourney

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=4578.msg191334#msg191334

[R1885]

I created IRL just as a one-off, I never intended it to have taken off as much as it did.

[Agaton]

Sure, I'll enter. For things you wanted to discuss, I suggest either MW or HW for a weight class, I would allow the Judge Burst and Maybe the MOE motor for cheatbot2 components, and for BFE, I'd allow it to a certain degree to where it stays realistic. Otherwise I think everything else is fine except this:

• Bots has to be AI'd before sent.

It's mainly that people may not know how to AI or don't have the time. If you really want them to AI themselves, then make sure they don't complain about how you AI'd it. That's my opinion anyway, I know you might not agree with me.

Glad to hear! Yeah I was thinking MW or HW too. CW (as helloface mentioned) is not a bad idea though.

Thanks for the input. 

"If you really want them to AI themselves, then make sure they don't complain about how you AI'd it." I'm sry but what? I think one big reason people don't know how to AI is because they never had any reason to because someone did it for them, which to me is ridiculous when were talking ai vs ai combat. I've realized that some find it disruptive but I still wanna try it. Hopefully, someone will see this as a good opportunity for learning how to implement basic AI because its really simple (though lots of respect for the modders doing the ai files in the first place). If I cant get enough entries, then maybe I'll have to reconsider.

[Agaton]

Ugh, another IRL DSL, I'm out.

Sry to hear that. Maybe next time then.

[Agaton]

Weight class. How about Cruiserweight? It's like a middleweight with more room to make things pretty. Superheavyweight could be interesting too.
BFE and glitches. Should be allowed as long as it stays IRL[/n]
Cheatbot2 components. As long as they're not overpowered why not?
Prize. Doesn't need one, but if you could think of something there's no harm in doing so
Overall interest. I might do something if I get over builder's block

as a side note, if you need help determining whether or not a bot is IRL, judging, or anything else feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to help. Good luck.
edit: 3000th post, cool

CW is interesting, Ill put that in the upcoming poll. Not very fond of SHW though. Thanks for the input!
Thanks, much appreciated!

[cephalopod]

I won't enter simply on the principle of making people AI their own bots. I get your reasoning but yeah, as we've previously discussed elsewhere, I don't agree.

[Naryar]

Ugh, another IRL DSL, I'm out.

I'm feeling the same way.

[Jakewilliamson]

General Rules:

• Ruleset - DSL IRL

Ugh, Can we do DSL-S tournament instead!?[/list]

[helloface]

Way to discourage a new host, guys. Saying EW IRL isn't really constructive.

You should really learn to AI yourself, it seems scary but it's really quite easy. You essentially just copy-paste bindings and swap out the names of the robots. There should be a few tutorials around somewhere.

[090901]

You should really learn to AI yourself, it seems scary but it's really quite easy. You essentially just copy-paste bindings and swap out the names of the robots. There should be a few tutorials around somewhere.

He knows how to AI, he just wants people to AI for themselves since its easy as hell and takes no effort and then they can't complain they he AI'd the bots wrong.

[helloface]

You should really learn to AI yourself, it seems scary but it's really quite easy. You essentially just copy-paste bindings and swap out the names of the robots. There should be a few tutorials around somewhere.

He knows how to AI, he just wants people to AI for themselves since its easy as hell and takes no effort and then they can't complain they he AI'd the bots wrong.

Oh I see the post now. It's not really that big of a hassle then and I'd see why it would make it easier for larger tournaments, but if Max can handle hundreds of bots I think Agaton can handle 8.

[Agaton]

Thanks for the input so far. BFE allowed for chassis design, one cheatbot2 component added (more likely to be added once I know the weight class), baseplate armor restriction and poll is now up regarding weight class.

Thanks to you guys who showed interest in entering, you're in for a treat   Oh and once everything has been set, were moving to the final poll regarding interest.

[Avalanche]

Agaton, while in a perfect world everyone would AI themselves, Earth is not a perfect world. Because I exist.
But seriously, not everyone will AI.