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Title: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 10, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
my first showcased bot, built for the lulz

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44542ACAMS.PNG)

plastic armour. What do u think? p.s i made it a mw on purpose.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on August 10, 2011, 08:59:41 PM
Are those custom components I see?
If those are regular iron gloves, I'd swap them for 3 irons, add stabilizers, let's ee the insides, and http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm) ,and lighten up the extender work.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on August 10, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
Are those custom components I see?
No, it's just really bad re-skinned stuff.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 10, 2011, 09:09:06 PM
090901 is correct. i'm making a mod where everything is in black and white

Insides:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55744ACAMSinsid.PNG)
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on August 10, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
tbh, i don't think about would want to download it, because my eyes are being hurt already
Anyways, you dun need so much air.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 10, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
i'll work on it later, but again, i just made it for the lolz.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on August 10, 2011, 09:25:45 PM
you should enter the next BTTB, someone would have to build an ACAMS XD
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 10, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
you should enter the next BTTB, someone would have to build an ACAMS XD

What's BTTB?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on August 11, 2011, 12:17:34 AM
'Tis pretty funny for a first bot.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on August 11, 2011, 12:41:31 AM
Back to the Beginnings. Basically everyone rebuilds someone's first showcased bot.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: G.K. on August 11, 2011, 02:45:11 AM
By the time the next one comes about he might be gone.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 11, 2011, 04:16:14 AM
Well you built to the weight limit which is good.  :trollface


Cylinder shaped bot would have been better though.  Tough to skin... but at least more accurate.  You should give it a shot for maximum lulzage.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 11, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
Turned the stock bot Devil into an axe bot. Meet the new Devil!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16445DVIL.PNG)

Same Steel armour. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Vertigo on August 11, 2011, 11:40:17 AM
Read this (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on August 11, 2011, 11:44:20 AM
Don't use samurai swords. Use 2 razors instead, and BFE DSA on.

Do a search in Notepad++ for "1 12 0 100" (for regular aluminum) or "0 8 0 80" (for plastic).

You'll find two lines that look something like this.

1 12 0 100 0
0.19975 0.19975 0.19975 0.85 20

That second line there determines the strength and color of the chassis shine.  The first three numbers are red, green, blue values (from 0 to 1) and the last two have to do with shininess.  I would say what the first line does, but that would enable cheating!  To get DSA, change them to this:

1 12 0 200 0
1 1 1 1 0

And if you're feeling creative, you can add a custom chassis shine.  That's one form of BFE that's completely legal, since it in no way affects your bot's performance.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Somebody on August 11, 2011, 11:51:14 AM
That particular robot has double strength steel, as all stock bots have double strength armor. So in this case, do not BFE DSA on.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on August 11, 2011, 12:25:25 PM
Glad to see other people enjoy making ACAMS-themed bots.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 11, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
Fixed Devil:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/37150DVIL 2.PNG)

My first popup:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87365LV2.PNG)

DSA had no choice for motors except RAD.

Again, any thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on August 11, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
Don't use ballasts.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wacky Bob on August 11, 2011, 01:48:29 PM
You know why you didn't have weight for anything else? You put in ballasts and the chassis is unnecessarily large. There are angle connectors and you equipped some useless side razors. Chassify it and put in another DDT instead of putting all the razors on just one and use a ramplate for protection.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Vertigo on August 11, 2011, 01:50:13 PM
HPZ drive
Less razors
2 DDTs for weapon motors
No angle connectors
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: The Ounce on August 11, 2011, 01:51:33 PM
On the popup, that is way too much weight for one DDT.  Get rid of half of the weapons and use the weight to get HP Z-teks for the drive.  Also, it's possible to have your wedge centered without using angle connectors.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mecha on August 11, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
Don't use ballasts.
I think ballasts are good for making your wedge better.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on August 11, 2011, 01:57:26 PM
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Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on August 11, 2011, 03:06:12 PM
Don't use ballasts.
I think ballasts are good for making your wedge better.
Just wait until Nary hears this!

Actually he is right, and you are wrong in trying to predict my reactions. Ballasts should make up for a better wedge, but are weight wasted otherwise and casters/ramplates/batteries ALSO do for a better wedge while not weight wasted.

Don't use ballasts though. And no, nobody will see me rage over ballast use here.

Anyways, that popup is way too slow for it's own good. Also battery setup is fail. It needs 1 or 2 black batteries, 2WD HPZ drive and less razors on one DDT.

Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: G.K. on August 11, 2011, 03:09:56 PM
Not necessarily Nary - you are investing the weight directly into the wedge - not wasted if casters are unweildy for particular chassis and batteries do not fit.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on August 11, 2011, 03:24:12 PM
Not necessarily Nary - you are investing the weight directly into the wedge - not wasted if casters are unweildy for particular chassis and batteries do not fit.
More or less it depends on how much space is allowed in said wedge.
.....Though anchors + ramplates are generally better
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 11, 2011, 04:31:05 PM
MR. AWESUM--- PLZ. STOP. GIVING. ADVICE.


Welcome to the community Wolfsbane...please listen to the likes of some of the experienced, trustworthy members who are already helping you out here (Ounce, Vertigo, Naryar, J...). If you need any help managing your showcase ( spam, idiots ) please let me know and I will help you clean (so will Naryar).

Study up with the resources around you. Good luck improving!
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 11, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
First, thanks for the welcome. Second, i'm gonna go take a break, i just got SCV1.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on August 11, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
If you need any help managing your showcase ( spam, idiots ) please let me know and I will help you clean (so will Naryar).
Nary will just use the delete option.
You, on the other hand, use a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: madman3 on August 12, 2011, 05:32:00 AM
If you need any help managing your showcase ( spam, idiots ) please let me know and I will help you clean (so will Naryar).
Nary will just use the delete option.
You, on the other hand, use a chainsaw.
Inf's a mod too.

The pop-up might benefit from being somewhat wider and shorter length-ways so you have more of a chance against flankers, as well as what everyone else said.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on August 12, 2011, 04:46:28 PM
i'm gonna be busy in stock. in the meantime, check out my dsl showcase.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 11, 2011, 09:06:32 PM
Wow, DP and a big bump at the same time. man i'm gonna get flamed

anyways, my first 36hs

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/418091220.PNG)

What do u think?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: freeziez on September 11, 2011, 09:08:03 PM
NOT SURE IF CAN COUNT
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 11, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
it's kinda hard to tell because the other weapons (besides the razors) are face down, will upload .bot file in a couple

EDIT: https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/HW/Wolfsbane_12-20.bot (https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/HW/Wolfsbane_12-20.bot)

there ya go, but it in bot lab and check it
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: freeziez on September 11, 2011, 09:12:50 PM
it's kinda hard to tell because the other weapons (besides the razors) are face down, will upload .bot file in a couple

I find that setup stupid. But I'm not good at stock, so I wouldn't reccommend listening to me.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 11, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
it's kinda tall because of the placement of the motors, so i said, "hey, why not?"
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Sage on September 11, 2011, 09:45:28 PM
It's not a 36HS in the general use of the term. Usually a 36HS has maces or irons... on HPZ-teks.

Redbirds really aren't that good in the HW division. Try to use better motors and a smaller chassis.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2011, 05:43:02 AM
It's not a 36HS. 36HS = 2WD HPZ drive, 2 blacks, 4 weapon HPZs, 4 tribars and 36 10kg weapons.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Natef on September 12, 2011, 01:03:48 PM
Use shinies.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 01:46:36 PM
taking a 2nd crack at it, but can someone make a skin for me?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60886Silent Rage.PNG)

it's called "Silent Rage". it's a png, so save as 24-bit bitmap. white is the top

first one to do a good job in my opinion gets to see it before anyone else.

no theme, just make it look cool

[Next time put an image tag on your pics - Naryar]
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Gazea2 on September 12, 2011, 01:52:59 PM
Meh. I'll do it tomorrow if no one else does.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 03:34:34 PM
does anyone else wanna try to make a skin?

edit: is anyone trying?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 12, 2011, 08:00:47 PM
NO. When your'e not good/your bots aren't quality no one is really going to give a dern. Maybe when you impress somebody with something new/better/notanythinglikethelastbot.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
NO. When your'e not good/your bots aren't quality no one is really going to give a dern. Maybe when you impress somebody with something new/better/notanythinglikethelastbot.

i only asked for a skin because i can't, all i got is paint. but if people are getting fussy, fine, i'll skin it myself

EDIT: Here's the bot

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62038edge.PNG)

plastic, 2 blacks, 27 irons, 9 on a tribar, 1 tribar on an hpz.


any thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 12, 2011, 08:26:40 PM
Invader Zim avi <3

....The wheels look a little exposed-like, and I think your over-doing it with the Snappers.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 08:28:31 PM
Invader Zim avi <3

....The wheels look a little exposed-like, and I think your over-doing it with the Snappers.

Thanks

I coudn't cram the drive HPZ in there, and i felt like with snapper 2's, i can put them all in the center, protected.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 12, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Invader Zim avi <3

....The wheels look a little exposed-like, and I think your over-doing it with the Snappers.

Thanks

I coudn't cram the drive HPZ in there, and i felt like with snapper 2's, i can put them all in the center, protected.
You could EASILY cut back on Snappers, and STILL fit it all in there.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 08:43:54 PM
Invader Zim avi <3

....The wheels look a little exposed-like, and I think your over-doing it with the Snappers.

Thanks

I coudn't cram the drive HPZ in there, and i felt like with snapper 2's, i can put them all in the center, protected.
You could EASILY cut back on Snappers, and STILL fit it all in there.

Trust me, i tried.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 12, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
Invader Zim avi <3

....The wheels look a little exposed-like, and I think your over-doing it with the Snappers.

Thanks

I coudn't cram the drive HPZ in there, and i felt like with snapper 2's, i can put them all in the center, protected.
You could EASILY cut back on Snappers, and STILL fit it all in there.

Trust me, i tried.
Ok look, heres how I have Crazy Gadget's wheels set-up:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2303GadgetSides.png)
You could actually set up your weapon motors like this, and it would potentially save you some weight.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 12, 2011, 09:57:39 PM
will try later
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 12, 2011, 11:31:58 PM
will try later
Its actually not as hard as it looks.
Its just a matter of planning your set-ups ahead of time, before you start placing parts on randomly.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Avalanche on September 13, 2011, 10:35:52 AM
J isnt lieing.I made my bots liek this:Idea, chassis out of the air and then slap components on.JUST LISTEN TO HIM.
That cut back my skill loads.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 13, 2011, 12:31:38 PM
i usually do that, but i decided to think ahead this time.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74380Electric Edge.PNG)

DSA, 2 blacks, Drive protected.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 13, 2011, 12:39:40 PM
Looks MUCH better, and you were even able to upgrade your armor.
...Snowplow seems kinda' random, though. Same with the EMERGENCY wedge.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 13, 2011, 01:04:05 PM
emergancy wedge is for defence of falling backwards (like a flip), and snowplow is for chassia protection

Edit: New bot, gave it a rust skin, and took a screenie

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18755noname.PNG)

DSA, anyone wanna name it?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 13, 2011, 09:25:01 PM
That middle Servo is eating up your weight.
2 Anchors would do the job better.
And you could maybe get away with just 1 air tank.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on September 13, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
That middle Servo is eating up your weight.
2 Anchors would do the job better.
And you could maybe get away with just 1 air tank.

that so~called servo actully IS an anchor.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on September 13, 2011, 10:33:16 PM
That middle Servo is eating up your weight.
2 Anchors would do the job better.
And you could maybe get away with just 1 air tank.

that so~called servo actully IS an anchor.
Meh, it looks like a Servo from the way you took the screenshot.
(More of a reason why I take angled screenshots)
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: smashysmashy on September 14, 2011, 03:11:47 PM
That does look surprisingly like an anchor.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on October 05, 2011, 07:29:19 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60502untitled.PNG)

Why regular Z-Tek drive?

I couldn't fit the CB inside otherwise. (Yes i tried stacking.)

How much does it weigh?

798.?

any thoughts for my first wammer?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on October 05, 2011, 07:31:41 PM
2WD rgular Z-teks are terriblel for a wammer.
Upgrade to at least 4WD HPZ's. Maybe get rid of a few weapons for weight. and don't use angle extenders
Put the control board on top of the Blacks, this'll work because the chassis is certainly tall enough.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: SKBT on October 05, 2011, 07:32:51 PM
I don't think you fully understand the concept of a whammer.

Take a look at the DSL version of Devil (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Devil) for a better idea of what a whammer is.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on October 05, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
how's this then?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/676revengeofang.PNG)

thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: The Ounce on October 05, 2011, 08:46:46 PM
The bracket wedge looks like it's blocking the top weapons.  Even if it isn't it, doesn't look useful since the weapons already prevent bots from going over the top.  Also, try to make it wider: it looks like it will get flanked easily.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on October 06, 2011, 07:34:25 AM
The swords might prevent the opponent getting up and over, but they'd go pretty quickly with their normals. The bracket wedge looks pointless, it should be removed, and - depending on how good or otherwise the wedges are - drop to Shiny Hubs. This should give you extra weight for a good deal more weaponry up front. You should really only have one layer of weapons, though, the first row will block the opponent from the second.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on October 06, 2011, 07:44:48 AM
Stop putting random crap on the forward top of your bot, you're wasting weight and certainly not helping against any bot type.

Maybe hammers, A BIT, but that's not helping much.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on December 28, 2011, 02:41:32 PM
Wow, it's been a while. anyway, tried making a HW popup.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/52449braveheart.PNG)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on December 28, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
don't use irons on a pop-up
too many blacks, 2-3 should suffice


...and pop-ups need chassis wedges, otherwise it's more of a hammer
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on December 28, 2011, 02:45:23 PM
don't use irons on a pop-up
too many blacks, 2-3 should suffice

I couldn't get razors on, stacking razors on extenders are difficult for me.

also, i couldn't get a chassis wedge to fit everything.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on December 28, 2011, 02:54:07 PM
Learn stacking and the eFFe glitch. That will help you immensely with this sort of bot. You really do need razors, and you really do need a chassis wedge.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Sage on December 28, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
...that's a popup?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Scrap Daddy on December 28, 2011, 03:39:14 PM
Well for starters it needs a wedge...but it looks like you've got the basics down. Swap the irons for razors and along with a chassis wedge add some wedges on snapper and it should be pretty good.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on December 28, 2011, 05:09:41 PM
Is this an improvment?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/72568ElectricalFireMK1.PNG)

any comments?

also, it may be hard to tell by this angle, but it DOES have a wedge.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Reier on December 28, 2011, 05:20:59 PM
The wedge is really steep and that bracket wedge is just in the way. Also, you probably should learn to stack those batteries to save space.

You are getting better though.

Oh, you can make that chassis tons smaller. Like those Z-teks don't need that much space, you can shrink it width-wise about 1/2 square maybe.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on December 28, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
It is an improvement. I'd angle the weapons back a bit more to get more speed when you hit the opponent. And the razors should ideally be angled the same way to maximise damage on each hit, you'll need to use the eFFe glitch to do this. And two of the three blacks could definitely stand to be stacked together, it's just trial and error to get it right, though. That would save you a good deal of weight to get a shallower chassis wedge, which would help you get under opponents.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on December 29, 2011, 11:48:16 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66186electricalfireMK2.PNG)

There's some empty space i just can't fill sadly.

comments?

also, can someone teach me how to stack blacks?

edit: again, there IS a chassis wedge, just difficult to see at this angle.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on December 29, 2011, 11:53:26 AM
please crop your images


also, can someone teach me how to stack blacks?



Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on December 29, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
The chassis wedge still needs to be shallower. If we can't tell there's a chassis wedge from that angle, then it needs to be less steep. And stacking is basicaly a case of trial and error. You need to position the two blacks in almost, but not exactly, the same place. You just need patience, a steady hand, and a good eye.

I would remove the pointless extender array on top. It's doing nothing except being a target.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 20, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Wow this hasn't been updated in a while, but i have a new version of my IB entry, Fang

Meet Fang 2: The Revenge of Luna

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91369luna.jpg)

DSA, any comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 20, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
mount all of the drive on the blue snappers and less empty space
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: ty4er on April 20, 2012, 12:10:46 PM
or just get rid of the blue snappers alltogether and get 2 snappers for the wedges on just extenders, no t-connecters.

otherwise it isnt that bad for a rammer except the space.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22579luna2.3.jpg)

had to sacrifice the wedge, but more weapons. I used pole spikes and axe heads at the end because it would be underweight otherwise.

Comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 12:49:16 PM
Better. What you could do, if you need to use up weight (you really want irons rather than pole spikes and axe heads), then you could swap the Nifty for a second Blackvolt, or remove it entirely and shrink the chassis as much as possible to get even more irons on there. Or razors, if you're running out a little bit. You really shouldn't use worse weapons purely for the sake of eating up weight.
 
Can I ask where all the weight's gone? Are there two weapon racks on there or three, because that would explain most of it.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 12:50:22 PM
Better. What you could do, if you need to use up weight (you really want irons rather than pole spikes and axe heads), then you could swap the Nifty for a second Blackvolt, or remove it entirely and shrink the chassis as much as possible to get even more irons on there. Or razors, if you're running out a little bit. You really shouldn't use worse weapons purely for the sake of eating up weight.

but wouldn't it be underpowered then?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
Better. What you could do, if you need to use up weight (you really want irons rather than pole spikes and axe heads), then you could swap the Nifty for a second Blackvolt, or remove it entirely and shrink the chassis as much as possible to get even more irons on there. Or razors, if you're running out a little bit. You really shouldn't use worse weapons purely for the sake of eating up weight.

but wouldn't it be underpowered then?

Nope. 1 Blackvolt is enough to power 4 HPZ's for a three minute match. Since most of the matches are 3 minutes, you should be fine.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 01:19:38 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94783Python Error.jpg)

how's this?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 01:23:38 PM
Very good. A little generic, but not to worry. Drive motors could be aligned a little bit better, in my view.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 21, 2012, 03:45:47 PM
how many irons
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
how many irons
40 i believe

is there anyway to attach an HPZ-tek on a blue snapper besides snapper loading? i always screwing it up and crashing my game
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
Yes, but it is vastly more efficient to Snapper Load them on. If you take a look at Obvious Pseudonym from RoboLeague, the weapon motor there was fixed directly to the SnapperII, I think. There's a LW VS in my showcase somewhere that definitely has a direct SnapperII-bursted HPZ as a weapon motor.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Yes, but it is vastly more efficient to Snapper Load them on. If you take a look at Obvious Pseudonym from RoboLeague, the weapon motor there was fixed directly to the SnapperII, I think. There's a LW VS in my showcase somewhere that definitely has a direct SnapperII-bursted HPZ as a weapon motor.

can you teach me? i always make it go so fast RA2 crashes :(
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
How do you mean by "go so fast"? There's a video Sage has that outlines Snapper Loading pretty well.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 21, 2012, 05:52:01 PM
How do you mean by "go so fast"? There's a video Sage has that outlines Snapper Loading pretty well.

i mean the motor spins so fast the game can't process the speed (faster than a chickn drill) and it crashes
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on April 21, 2012, 06:01:20 PM
That sounds a bit like your computer might be a bit slow to process it. Either that or you've modified the game in some obscure way. You need to spin the RAD motors as fast as possible in order to make the Snapper Loading glitch work.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 21, 2012, 06:25:32 PM
does it tip forward at all

also
Don't use ballasts.
I think ballasts are good for making your wedge better.
Just wait until Nary hears this!
EWEWEWEWEWEWEW WHY DID I SAY THIS EWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEW #OCCUPY GAMETECHMODS UNBAN SPARKEY
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 22, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
does it tip forward at all

also
Don't use ballasts.
I think ballasts are good for making your wedge better.

yes it does, sadly

If twisted metal RA2 works, this is going to be my entry, based off of this http://twistedmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Piecemeal (http://twistedmetal.wikia.com/wiki/Piecemeal)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3542piecemeal.jpg)

DSA, irons and a flamethrower. Mostly an artbot like Wrecktangle though. Thoughts?
Just wait until Nary hears this!
EWEWEWEWEWEWEW WHY DID I SAY THIS EWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEW #OCCUPY GAMETECHMODS UNBAN SPARKEY
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 22, 2012, 04:06:27 PM
yes it does, sadly

rotate the outermost extenders so that the ironsconnected on that round extender (perferably red :trollface)  touch the ground and serve as stabilizers

you can also do that with the inner extenders too if you want
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 22, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
yes it does, sadly

rotate the outermost extenders so that the ironsconnected on that round extender (perferably red :trollface)  touch the ground and serve as stabilizers

you can also do that with the inner extenders too if you want

kk, will try l8tr
what do you think of piecemeal?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 22, 2012, 04:20:21 PM
what do you think of piecemeal?
its... big?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 22, 2012, 04:53:37 PM
what do you think of piecemeal?
its... big?

it's supposed to be an artbot like in the wiki article i showed you
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on April 22, 2012, 05:58:29 PM
It's not an artbot, it's a big messy pile of components.

You can still go for the Wrecktangle look and make it better, not have useless spinners on the top of the bot.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mistfire333 on April 29, 2012, 07:24:33 PM
hey could you post another forum and continue it on there? Thanks, and nice first bot lol
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on April 29, 2012, 07:27:23 PM
hey could you post another forum and continue it on there? Thanks, and nice first bot lol
wat
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 26, 2012, 03:06:06 PM
I HAVE BUILT IN STOCK

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20246Andalite 1.0.jpg)

DSA, 18 IRONS, 9 MACES, 2 STACKED BLACKS, 3 BLUE SNAPPERS, CASTER ARMOUR UNDERNEATH. ALSO OCASSIONALLY HAS AGOD.

How do i fix AGOD again? I know if i edit it afterwards, wit will screw up again, but this doesn't need much more.

Comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: GoldenFox93 on May 26, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
Impressive! Is it invertible, though? And does it use DSA?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 26, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
Impressive! Is it invertible, though? And does it use DSA?

It does use DSA, but since i had to use the bottom AP of the snappers, it isn't invertable. Still does decent damage upside-down though
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 26, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
Looks messy. How's the wedge?

That ramplate in the back can't be that helpful, but you might be able to stack another black if you took that off and cleaned up the extender setup.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 26, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
Looks messy. How's the wedge?

That ramplate in the back can't be that helpful, but you might be able to stack another black if you took that off and cleaned up the extender setup.

The wegde i will test later, There is already 2 stacked blacks, and i can't really think of anything else for armour. Because it has outside motors, i need some protection, and the snowplow lifts the wheels off the ground.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on May 26, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
Not bad, but it's a bit of a mess. I'd try to see if you could build it off of two SnapperIIs rather than three. Saves chassis space. Get rid of the wedge and ramplate, the opponent's aren't going to get to them, and try to add a bit more weaponry on it.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 26, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
Not bad, but it's a bit of a mess. I'd try to see if you could build it off of two SnapperIIs rather than three. Saves chassis space. Get rid of the wedge and ramplate, the opponent's aren't going to get to them, and try to add a bit more weaponry on it.


I would neeed help with attaching multiple motors on a blue snapper without a t connector or something, because that would break the rule of 7. If you can help me with that i'll try.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 26, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
dp, got rid of ramplate and wedge, added 9 more irons and 1 caster
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Fracture on May 26, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
Go for a wedge or casters, not both.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on May 26, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
very messyyyyyyyy
wedges aren't completely necessary on hs anyway, unless you're trying to make it a hs/juggler hybrid

also in the botlab pause -> garage -> botlab WHILE YOU ARE BUILDING THE BOT to help prevent agod if you see that collision boxes are out of place
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on May 26, 2012, 07:20:55 PM

How do i fix AGOD again? I know if i edit it afterwards, wit will screw up again, but this doesn't need much more.

Comments?

pause/break in botlab-test area-back to botlab-unpause

but you cant edit it or it dies again
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on May 27, 2012, 01:53:58 AM
Messy and asymmetrical => wedge becomes useless.

Either make a wedged HS hybrid (less weapons, more drive and wedges) or a full HS (no wedges, more weapons). There, you are in between both designs and it kinda fails.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 27, 2012, 09:35:58 AM
Messy and asymmetrical => wedge becomes useless.

Either make a wedged HS hybrid (less weapons, more drive and wedges) or a full HS (no wedges, more weapons). There, you are in between both designs and it kinda fails.

look a couple posts back, i said i added an extra caster and 9 irons by removing the ramplate and wedge. BTW, it can beat most of bbeans ai, except for a select few.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on June 02, 2012, 12:57:08 PM
MW HS TIME

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65219Destiny's Child.jpg)

DSA, 2 ramplates, 1 black, 12 razors, RAD drive, HPZ for weapons, drive and weapons built on 2 blue snappers, 1 for each side.

Comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 02, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
More weapons, too slow drive.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: ty4er on June 02, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
its pretty bad, it really could do with more drive or atleast not having it exposed and upgrading the weapons to maces/irons

please say it's invertible or atleast close so grannies or something can make it invertible

Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on June 02, 2012, 02:20:20 PM
you can build the weapon off of one snapper
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on June 02, 2012, 02:22:35 PM
RAD drive is fine for MW HS. But you should be able to get a bunch more weaponry on there if you use only one SnapperII, and tidied up the extender work a little bit. Maces are the preferred medium for HS, largely due to their longevity and protection of the extenders, Irons allow you more reach.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on June 02, 2012, 03:14:35 PM
I'll try, but i've done some testing with it against stock bbeans ai teams 1-15.

It kills everything effictently, except for these three, where it has troubles. NeglectedVain (NWB clone) Nobody Nose (Same concept, but replaced 12 razors and the ramplates for snowplows for better drive), and I Will Get Shredded. I designed this to have good O and D in exchange for M.

O XXX--
M XX---
D XXXX-

NFX, is that how you would rate it like the bots in your signiture?


I would build it off 1 blue snapper, but then i have problems mounting the drive and armour. Should i ditch the armour for better drive and weapons?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on June 02, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
What do those letters stand for?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on June 02, 2012, 06:48:39 PM
O means Offence
M means Mobility
D meand Defence

it's from a building tutorial on the wiki, and NFX rates the bots in his signiture with this method.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Virus Bomb on June 02, 2012, 06:55:14 PM
MW BBEANS bots aren't really that good outside of a couple bots. Try the MWs from PYS AI, Inf's AI pack and SCv4.

Bot: You should try to get it invertible if it isn't already. RAD drive is perfectly fine on MW HSes, but if you want to try stronger drive such as redbirds or zteks then go ahead. Also there's nothing wrong with using razors on this although razor HSes in the MW class usually have stronger drive, more armor, or more weapons. Razors are better at taking out popups than both irons and maces but there's nothing stopping you from switching weapons.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on June 02, 2012, 10:35:59 PM
You do know those BBEANS MW bots you are fighting are from 2006?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on June 19, 2012, 05:45:40 PM
haven't updated but i bult a hybrid wammer/side hammer, an hw popup, mw popup and updated ai to scv3

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10391Eagle V1.jpg)

DSA, 2 blacks, and a lot of glitching. Comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on June 19, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
less empty space
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on June 19, 2012, 07:46:42 PM
The front of the bot is pretty good, but when you look at the back... UGH. That extender work is just horrible.

Simplify it, and no need for srimechs on invertible non-wedged bots. Besides, the arm is far too long to work as a srimech.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: ty4er on June 19, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
so much wasted weight on the back

and move the inner most razors from the side hammer to the end of it
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on July 10, 2012, 07:11:26 PM
My laptop with all my games went dead, and my charger is b0rken. In the meantime, can someone teach me how to build a 36HS?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on July 13, 2012, 06:17:57 AM
Only tutorial I ever remember someone posting:
Step-by-step on how I built Black and Blue (requested by Gazea2).

http://raw.gametechmods.com/Shhhh/BlackandBlue.wmv (http://raw.gametechmods.com/Shhhh/BlackandBlue.wmv)

Low quality because it was a big video. If you blow it up in Media Player you can see whats going on, even if it's a little fuzzy.
 
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on July 21, 2012, 03:16:34 PM
I have created my very first (somewhat) effective HW popup.

everyone, meet Slipstream

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75187Slipstream.png)

DSA, 10 razors, 3 blacks. The reason for grannies is that rubbers glitched out, and it would be underweight with shinies. Comments? Improvements? Dead bird my cat caught-on-a-stick?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on July 21, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
The way the razors are attached is horrible, rotate them 90 degrees

Also if you used shinies you could add a pair of bunny ears like R4 has.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Fracture on July 21, 2012, 03:27:09 PM
First off, the chassis isn't completely airtight, but of course that's not a big problem. The wedge DDTs should face the other way; wider wedges are often preferable. Also, the extenders off the weapon DDTs should be rotated so that their side attachments face sideways rather than backward. This way all the razors get some action. For the wheels, just stick with Shinies. You retain invertibility and gain 24 kg for casters, blades on the wedge extenders, etc.. Generic, but looks like it could take on some tough enemies!
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Jonzu95 on July 21, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
I love it
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on July 21, 2012, 03:32:27 PM
Use rubber wheels. If they glitch, simply remove the motors and reattach them. You should also rotate the weapon extenders by 90 degrees so all the weapons hit at the same time. Something else you could do is turn the wedge DDT's around, so you get the wedges further apart, making it easier to get underneath your opponents. Apart from stacking the blacks together and shrinking up the chassis slightly, there's not too much else I think you could do, apart from adding more weaponry. It'll be kinda generic, but very effective.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on July 22, 2012, 03:37:32 AM
It's okay. Use shinies.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on July 22, 2012, 04:59:20 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on July 23, 2012, 11:35:05 AM
Made the wedges wider, and turned the razors 90 degrees.


i tested it against V4 melstorm, and wins about 85 percent of the time i'm driving it. Do you think it can take down a mace 36HS with castor armour? it still packs a whallop even if there is caster armour.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on July 23, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
i tested it against V4 melstorm, and wins about 85 percent of the time i'm driving it.
ai it so we know youre not n00b driving
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Pwnator on July 23, 2012, 08:41:46 PM
i tested it against V4 melstorm, and wins about 85 percent of the time i'm driving it.
ai it so we know youre not n00b driving

how do you n00b drive against a stacked hs hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on July 23, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
i tested it against V4 melstorm, and wins about 85 percent of the time i'm driving it.
ai it so we know youre not n00b driving

how do you n00b drive against a stacked hs hahahahahaha
fdghdfsffjjjwrrwhjkb i read it as v3
but i think hed manage find a way......... im sure



how wide is it now ? because popups dont tend to do so well if theyre too narrow
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on July 24, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
My Entry:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95407screenshot_1.png)

I used grannies because i would have a choice with shinies:

A: sucky wedges
B: only 2 wheels touching

Bracket wedge is for when a bot tries flying over the top. I made the wedges wider, tilted the razors 90 degrees, and removed the blades so i had weight for the anchor and bracket.

Comments?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Jonzu95 on July 24, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
You could take the snapshot before adding the smartzone...
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: NFX on July 24, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
I would advise removing the bracket, and getting the blades back on. If one of your wedges gets taken off on a lucky hit, that'll severely hamper your ability to get under your opponents. The bracket wedge will in all likelihood hinder you actually getting close enough to your opponent's chassis to damage it, and probably just get taken off very quickly anyway.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on July 24, 2012, 02:36:28 PM
I would advise removing the bracket, and getting the blades back on. If one of your wedges gets taken off on a lucky hit, that'll severely hamper your ability to get under your opponents. The bracket wedge will in all likelihood hinder you actually getting close enough to your opponent's chassis to damage it, and probably just get taken off very quickly anyway.

I've tested the blades, and they don't do what they're supposed to do, even if i make them longer. Remember, i'm fighting a 36HS, so wedges aren't my highest priority unlike other popups. I've tested the bot without wedges on other HS's (Manily Spin Doctor and Maelstorm.) and it can still ko them because of the positions of the ramplates. That's why i can't use shinies, because the ramplates would move the shinies of the ground, so it would save weight actully to add the bracket, for many times bots go over it, and flank me. I've already PM'd Dragonfire my entry, so all i have to do is watch, and root for a win.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on March 30, 2013, 12:30:50 PM
BACK FROM THE DEAD!

My first bot in about a year. (that isn't crap.)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41361Bear Mace.png)

Improvements?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on March 30, 2013, 12:34:38 PM
You only need 1 black.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Venko on March 30, 2013, 02:07:58 PM
Use one black, replace the inner bear claws with razors, narrow the drive by attaching it on a 20/or40 cm shorter extenders, so it can be inside of the circle of the spining weapons. You don't need a HP drives for a MW bot if You ask me. With the weight left, upgrade to DSA, and think of some way to make this invertible.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on March 30, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
replace the inner bear claws with razors
With all the weight he gets from removing one of the blacks, he should just make them maces.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on March 30, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
that looks really havoky. and why no dsa, but you have 2 blacks and 2 snappers? that doesnt make sense.

yes change the inner claws to maces, your setup wont dish out much damage ATM because of those claw normals.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 02, 2013, 06:39:49 PM
Can someone help me make a 36HS chassis with 2 blue snappers and 2 stacked blacks? I just spent half an hour failing at it.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 02, 2013, 06:50:58 PM
What exactly do you need help with? If you're building a classic AC style 36, the biggest trouble you should have is making sure your setup is a maximum one extender off the snapper, otherwise it's pretty easy.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 02, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
What exactly do you need help with? If you're building a classic AC style 36, the biggest trouble you should have is making sure your setup is a maximum one extender off the snapper, otherwise it's pretty easy.

on the chassis i tried either it was too small and the collision meshes were colliding, or it was too big. Can you help me get a general shape?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Sage on April 02, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
Sure.


The basic 36HS uses 2 Snapper II burst motors, 2 drive HPZteks, and 4 Weapon HPZteks, with 9 weapons on each tribar.


If you use the generic weapon setup (two 20cms off then end of the tribar, one facing out and one facing down) then you can only use ONE extender off of the Snapper to attach your weapon motors, or else the rule of 7 will defeat you.


Before you even enter the bot lab, make sure you can do these things:
1. Stacking black batteries/SnapperIIs
2. Effe Glitch
3. Snapper Load


Now, it IS possible to make a 36HS without snapper loading, but the only designs me and Inf could come up with were Absolute Chaos and ULTIMATUM. So, learn to snapper load, unless you wanna clone.


The 1st step is planning your design, IN YOUR HEAD. Calculate how much everything will weigh based on the design you come up with, to see how much your chassis has to weigh. Then go try and make that chassis. If the chassis is too big, it's a bad design, and you start over.

The general chassis shape can really be anything that will fit 2 snappers. So even a square works.

Tips:


Put the batteries in last, else you might screw yourself over when you accidently release your snapper loaded extenders.
Try and clone one of the previously designed 36HS first. This will help you get your bearings on what needs to be done.
Be prepared to have your patience tested.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 05, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
Good news and bad news.       Good news, I just finished building an Iron Spike 36HS based off one of CB's bots. Bad news, Ra2 crashed before I could save it.  :vista: Should I try rebuilding it from the ground up? I put like 3 hours into it.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 05, 2013, 02:08:03 PM
of course, now you know the setup, it should take like 40 minutes to replicate.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Trovaner on April 05, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
Have you tried recovering it? If you haven't tried creating a new bot where the last one was then you can sometimes grab the bot file from within the Teams folder.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 05, 2013, 05:34:43 PM
Have you tried recovering it? If you haven't tried creating a new bot where the last one was then you can sometimes grab the bot file from within the Teams folder.

I recovered it. But i need to tweak it, the wheels are all at the back facung sideways. Just need to start over from the snapper loading, as long as there's no AGOD it should be finished quickly.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 05, 2013, 06:10:50 PM
DP WITH CONTENT

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41187Untitled.jpg)

Thoughts? PLEASE I SPENT 5 HOURS OVERALL ON IT
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 05, 2013, 06:15:35 PM
You did it. Congrats.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 05, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
You did it. Congrats.

Thanks. It means a lot to have congrats to you by a person with a candy-coloured username.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 05, 2013, 06:44:16 PM
Yup, nice. Although it's not the best setup, I think it's actually an orignal one.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 05, 2013, 06:48:54 PM
Yup, nice. Although it's not the best setup, I think it's actually an orignal one.

It's on the exchange if you wanna look at it. It's called "36 Fangs"
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Fracture on April 05, 2013, 07:00:25 PM
Hey, nice job. You'll find with experience that it takes less and less time to build bots like this that require snapper loading. If this was my bot, though, I'd switch the position of the drive motors with the weapon motors at the back (back being the part with the SnapperIIs). That way, the weapons will be spinning closer together.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on April 29, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
First LW I built in a LOOOOONG time that can beat V3 Tempus Fugit:                                                                                                     (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51065Tempus.jpg)                                                                                                                                                                                                Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Pwnator on April 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
See if you can stack the CB into either the piston or the tank. If you can, shove the batts and drive beside the piston so its turning speed improves.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: J on April 29, 2013, 10:36:44 PM
Mind if you post a pic of how tall it is? I get the feeling it's got some left over space.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 14, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
*Blows dust off showcase*

I made my most airtight chassis yet. Only problem is that it's so tight I can't stack another black.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11851FireandIce.png)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on May 14, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Ditch the hammer and grannies.
Put in a wedge on a blue snapper the stack an anchor into the snapper you have currently and add more weapons.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Virus Bomb on May 14, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
you can just use two anchors for your current weapon rack instead of using a heavier blue snapper. the hammer is also pretty useless when you don't have a v or u shaped front.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on May 15, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
needs a wedge. You are also building that hammer head wrong.

also different size wheels is problematic as well.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on May 15, 2013, 06:28:27 AM
Why do you need a snapper for the ramming rack?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 19, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
I kind of like it.  It's less of a hammer bot, and more of a standard rammer with an extra hammer added.

#1 priority is to get a wedge though (you may need to redo the chassis, unless you can use baseplate anchors for the weapon racks and fit a Snapper 2 in front).  You may actually be fine with one battery.  Two would be ideal, but your power drain is just a bit over 800.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 01, 2014, 10:35:14 PM
First bot in a long time
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66456firephoenix.png)

DSA, a lot of axes, 6 maces, 4 irons, and one black. Should i cut back on weps for another battery?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Badnik96 on May 01, 2014, 11:09:01 PM
You dont need the plow on the back. Also I'd go for a second black.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 02, 2014, 12:20:08 AM
Hammer + side hammer combo is pretty ambitious.  It's hard enough just to make a good side hammer or a good hammer, let alone both at once.  This is a good start but could be better.

I don't think one plow is enough front protection.  I would move some weapons off the side hammers and make a static ramming rack.  It doesn't matter how many weapons you have if your chassis is wide open.

Also, you can easily get a bunch of extra weight for another battery by removing the random plow+irons in the back.  You could use a Snapper for the wedge too.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 03, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
Well, i wasn't able to modify much on the top hammer without doing a lot of work, so i turned it into a Rammer/Side Hammer.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5471firephoenixmk2.png)

DSA, 2 blacks, a lot of axes, long snapper2 wedge, (2 140cm, but they connect just under the ramming rack.) Not the best when it comes to ramming, (not too many irons.) but it's still something in the way of frontal protection.

Hot or not?
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on May 03, 2014, 11:42:18 AM
There's still way too many weapons on the side hammers. You'll probably only be able to get 5 razors on each DDT and still have it swing fast enough to do decent damage. Put the rest of the weight into the ramming rack (as in, have one ramming rack, 1 BA).
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 03, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
How's this?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35859firephoenixmk3.png)

The reason there is a second, smaler rack was because i had about 50-60 kg to play with.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 03, 2014, 10:32:09 PM
Aww, it looks generic now.  I liked the top hammer.  Though it is probably better in combat now.

If anything, it might have too many weapons in front now... I would use one ramming rack, angle the irons to take up more vertical space, and put a few more weapons on the side hammers.  If you're going to invest 2 DDTs in them, you want them to last a while.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 10, 2014, 02:03:06 PM
Made a weird hybrid today

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58526Krystal's Edge.png)

DSA, 2 black, 32 razors, 16 on each system, 3 blue snappers, and 4WD HPZ.

When I AI it, the ramming rack fires downwards, messing with popups.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mecha on May 10, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
801.4
If you gave us a better inside picture I could probably tell you what to do to get more weight, but TBH i don't feel like that design is worth it. (No offense at all intended.)
I say that because the razors are probably interfering with the wedge in a negative way.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Mr. AS on May 10, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
The stock smartzones weigh 2 kg, that would put it at 799.4 without it. It should be alright.

The razors aren't going to do much to a popup with any form of defenses (which is what 90% of HW popups have). Especially when you have 12+ of them on a single snapper.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: 090901 on May 10, 2014, 02:35:23 PM
Just snapper load your drive on so you don't have to use so many extenders. I would just ditch having the razors on a green snapper and put them on an angled BA.

801.4
It weighs that much because of the stock smartzone.

but TBH i don't feel like that design is worth it. (No offense at all intended.)
VS/(W)Rammer hybrids are decent bot types so idk what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Naryar on May 10, 2014, 02:50:10 PM
EDIT: Oh, it's a popdown ? It's original, but it seems a bit pointless to make a wedge and then a system to screw gut-rippers.

I thought it was a rammer/VS and I honestly think it would be better like that.

Also it seems a bit messy.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on November 06, 2015, 12:15:36 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3023screenshot_1.jpg)

I watched one of Resetti's videos, and it made me look here.

I saw an Ironbot tournament for LW, so I thought I'd try it.

Haven't built a bot in forever, but I did the best with what I remembered.

DSA, mostly a sacrificial lamb, but I'll still enter it if it's ok
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Sage on November 06, 2015, 01:06:56 AM
Unfortunately, weapons do no damage if they are touching the ground. This mean your robot is essentially a wedge bot with a really sturdy, sh**ty wedge.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Wolfsbane on November 06, 2015, 01:57:36 AM
Unfortunately, weapons do no damage if they are touching the ground. This mean your robot is essentially a wedge bot with a really sturdy, sh**ty wedge.

The 2 ice picks on the side are angled slightly more then the weapons. The ice picks don't do damage, but the weapons do. I know, I tried it in game.
Title: Re: Wolfsbane's supertastic showcase of stuff
Post by: Sage on November 06, 2015, 02:05:59 AM
Okay i see it now. Not bad then. Also do us all a favor and crop your images!