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Title: Weirdo's showcase
Post by: Weirdo on April 25, 2009, 05:50:39 PM: Hey,

been lurking around for about a week or two now, so I thought I might as well showcase what I've done so far...

so...

This is Reaper. Not great, but big improvement on past versions. Basically trying out the idea of an invertable VS. Also has small wedges on round extenders for a srimech, so it coulden't be flipped on its side and immobilised. The Slim wheels come out of the back of the bot, so it can't be flipped on its rear end either.

2 irons on the disk, powered by a HPZtech, normal HPs power the Slims.
Snappers power the srimech.
All powered by a black battery.
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Post by: Clickbeetle on April 25, 2009, 06:01:20 PM: Welcome to the forums. Some very simple advice for Reaper would be:

-You might as well put another two iron spikes on the disc, since you have weight and attach points.

-Static components like spikes work just as well as wheels on axle mounts for stabilizing bots, and they're more durable. Try replacing the shiny wheels with iron spikes or something.

-Try to get as close to 800 kgs as possible, or else try to cut stuff out until it's a MW. Underweight HW's aren't very effective against full-weight opponents.

There are other ways you can improve Reaper too, but I'm not going to overcomplicate things right now with glitches and stacking and stuff...

I like the design though, invertible VS's aren't seen very often.
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Post by: Weirdo on April 25, 2009, 06:04:10 PM: Thanks for the reply, and thanks for the info, gonna right onto those iron spikes. =)
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Post by: Weirdo on April 25, 2009, 06:20:54 PM: Double post. Sorry

New slightly improved Reaper.

And while I'm at it:

A MW called Reaper Jr. Origionally a pure flipper but its now a popup.

A LW called Mini Reaper, more similar in design to Reaper, but lacking in 'extras' (stablisers, 'invertable wheel', etc)

And a BW called Beetle Reaper with double spinning irons at the front. Is underpowered, but only to keep it within the weight.

I'll build and AW to round off at some point...
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Post by: System32 on April 25, 2009, 06:52:00 PM: Make the chassis smaller, you'll be able to have more power on the Beetle.
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Post by: Weirdo on April 25, 2009, 07:44:31 PM: Updated BW. Smaller chassis. Slightly more power, but it seems to be enough.
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Post by: Sage on April 25, 2009, 07:47:01 PM: use round extenders.
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Post by: System32 on April 25, 2009, 07:51:41 PM: They are round extenders.

I think you need glasses, badly.
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Post by: takatsukiyayoi on April 25, 2009, 07:54:09 PM: I think that is a square extender on Reaper Jr, actually...
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Post by: Scrap Daddy on April 25, 2009, 07:54:53 PM: Quote from: System32;35365
They are round extenders.

I think you need glasses, badly.

The other bots use square extenders.
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Post by: Weirdo on April 26, 2009, 09:47:58 AM: So they do...

Ta Scrap, all sorted now.

Couple more bots;

Scythe 2- HS with 4 tribars, powered by HPZs, as are the wheels. 2 blacks.
Also the origional Scythe.

Comments and tips, etc, much appreciated
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Post by: Weirdo on April 28, 2009, 03:08:42 PM: So... no one interested in Scythe? Its my first HS and comments on that bot would be appreciated.

Anyways, that AW I was on about. No prises for guessing its name.
Uses plastic armour
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Post by: Naryar on April 28, 2009, 03:13:07 PM: 1 single razor on an antweight = fail

You can get 3 razors and one nifty on an ant with plastic armor, believe me.

And read this if you didn't already : http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm
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Post by: R1885 on April 28, 2009, 03:19:17 PM: Even my worst ant has two razors.
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Post by: ianh05 on April 28, 2009, 03:32:16 PM: too much free space on that AW. you need to build a chassis so it only just fits the components, keep resizing the chassis till everything fits and there's no free space.
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Post by: Somebody on April 28, 2009, 04:20:10 PM: And remember for Scythe 2. Build to the weight limit.
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Post by: Weirdo on April 28, 2009, 05:20:31 PM: Thanks for the feedback.

Hope this is an improvement.
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Post by: Somebody on April 28, 2009, 05:48:31 PM: An improvement. I see that you read Click's site.
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Post by: Weirdo on May 01, 2009, 12:37:53 PM: Updated Reaper and Scythe 2.
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Post by: System32 on May 01, 2009, 12:56:39 PM: Reaper is nice, but you sould build to the weight limit.

I like the scrimech.
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Post by: Weirdo on May 01, 2009, 02:27:55 PM: Heavier, slightly overpowered Reaper with more irons and HPZs.
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Post by: man manu on May 01, 2009, 02:40:48 PM: Lose the big old wheels dude
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Post by: Weirdo on May 01, 2009, 02:44:54 PM: You mean the slims? If I do that then the robot won't be invertible, and could be flipped onto its back and immobilised. Also, I've made sure they've got some protection from the chassis, so they shouldn't be knocked off too easily if anything gets to them.
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Post by: Somebody on May 01, 2009, 06:13:31 PM: I'm worried that the front spike of each set of three might get in the way and make the other 2 do less. You should test without it to look at combat effectiveness.
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Post by: Weirdo on May 03, 2009, 04:55:19 AM: I did test it and it is an issue, but they're mainly there for the weight. I'll try angleing them downwards instead.
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Post by: Weirdo on May 27, 2009, 12:47:26 PM: Right. 'Bout time I posted more bots then.

SLAGIATT

Seemed like a good idea at the time...

Gave me my first experiance of AGOD... Is also too slow to turn. Wheels are probably too exposed aswell.

PKR

My first attempt at a poker. Suffers slightly from empty space, but isn't too bad. Uses chained HPZ to drive the slippers.
Title: Weirdo's showcase
Post by: Reier on May 27, 2009, 12:48:06 PM: Chained HPZs fail.
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Post by: Weirdo on May 27, 2009, 12:49:51 PM: Aw. Why? Does it only work with normal ztechs?
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Post by: 40757 on May 27, 2009, 12:58:31 PM: It's better to just use more wheels. IMO, the MW needs 4WD HPZ and the HW needs 6WD HPZ.

Remove the snapper in the MW. It would be better to make chassis space since it doesn't accumulate as much space as the snapper.

If the Slippers are for invertibility then that means your chassis is too high for both bots.

Hope this helps.
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Post by: Reier on May 27, 2009, 01:03:50 PM: Lemme rephrase my last statement. Chained drives fail, chained weapons own..
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Post by: Hydro on May 27, 2009, 01:04:43 PM: NOW it makes sence...
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Post by: Weirdo on May 27, 2009, 01:18:31 PM: Quote from: 40757;40821
It's better to just use more wheels. IMO, the MW needs 4WD HPZ and the HW needs 6WD HPZ.

Remove the snapper in the MW. It would be better to make chassis space since it doesn't accumulate as much space as the snapper.

I was trying to experiment a bit really. Not very good(figures...) but I just wanted to see what I did and learn from it. And I'm doing that, so thats great.

So:

- Chained drives are bad. I did think that PKR would go faster...

- Using my method with SLAGIATT(for some reason I wanna call it snapper loading... but it isn't) didn't work well for its intended purpose. It origionally used a tribar on a servo, but that didn't seem to work well either.

I will do rebuilds soon.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 06, 2009, 01:17:08 PM: Made some updates on PKR.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4759PKRiii.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27684PKRiv.jpg)
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Post by: Reier on July 08, 2009, 03:16:52 PM: Not bad, but could be a lot better. Make it invertible if it isn't already.
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Post by: R1885 on July 08, 2009, 03:18:24 PM: Looks like S.W.A.T.
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Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 08, 2009, 04:18:52 PM: Are you of all people going to call someone out for cloning?

Take a seat champ.
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Post by: R1885 on July 08, 2009, 04:22:03 PM: Quote from: Scrap Daddy;49904
Are you of all people going to call someone out for cloning?

Take a seat champ.

I'm just saying that it looks like S.W.A.T., right down to its T shape.
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Post by: infiniteinertia on July 08, 2009, 05:13:36 PM: What's SWAT? I dont know it, must not be that good.

Looks good, just a lil sloppy built wise.
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Post by: R1885 on July 08, 2009, 05:25:01 PM: Quote from: infiniteinertia;49925
What's SWAT? I dont know it, must not be that good.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3216SWAT.PNG)
S.W.A.T. is my poker, and is part of my AI pack. It easly kills any HS, and it has no problems killing any else, save for gut rippers.
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Post by: Reier on July 08, 2009, 05:27:18 PM: Replica brought to you by Lego RA2 projects™, "we supply all your lego RA2 replica needs."
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Post by: System32 on July 08, 2009, 06:14:31 PM: Quote from: Reier;40822
Chained drives fail, chained weapons own.

Prove it.
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Post by: infiniteinertia on July 08, 2009, 07:42:11 PM: well your SWAT looks like 23958045348 identical generic bots just like it. and Weirdo's is more original than yours. so,,,,stop.
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Post by: Naryar on July 09, 2009, 12:46:59 AM: 75% of stock HW pokers are generic anyways.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 12, 2009, 12:21:50 PM: Had a go at building a popup.

Mostly Harmless

Two blacks in there, haven't learnt how to stack them. Any idea what I could do with the extra weight?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15191MH.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70981MHii.jpg)
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Post by: Sage on July 12, 2009, 12:24:25 PM: get rid of second wedge, turn all the razors the same way, add front protection.
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Post by: roboman2444 on July 12, 2009, 01:04:10 PM: ahhh thats a lot o razors.
get rid of the wedge, shove some ram plates on the front, and add another plow to the back.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 12, 2009, 03:21:37 PM: Now I'm not sure how I've done it, but while trying to make some improvements the right rear wheels is suddenly not in the same position it was before. So now the bots pretty much shat if it wants to go strate. I think one of the axles is in a slightly different position to how it was before, but I was playing around with it and only making it worse... but maybe I was playing around wrong. I'll play around some more and see if I can fix it.

Anyway, heres my attempts at improvement.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35668MHiii.jpg)
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Post by: Naryar on July 12, 2009, 03:24:36 PM: I think all your armor would be better at the front.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 20, 2009, 10:22:22 AM: Tested Mostly Harmless and it was a failier. Against Starcore 1 bots.

Anyway, here is a slight improvement.

Scythe 3

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20826scythe3ii.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86105scythe3.jpg)

My first bot to use Snapper 2s, my first to use effing and my first 36 mace HS. Unfortunatly, I still can't stack blacks, so its only got one of those. Slightly underpowered. Also not invertable. Still, what do you think for a first propper try?
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Post by: Somebody on July 20, 2009, 01:23:09 PM: Its good...

for a weirdo...
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Post by: Weirdo on July 20, 2009, 02:50:13 PM: ^^Whats that meant to mean?! You a weirdophobe O_o

Anyway, I made a MW version that I'm considering entering into the Doomed Bots torney.

Scythe 3.5

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7610scythe3.5.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/11601scythe3.5ii.jpg)

I'm aware that it probably needs a plow at the front for protection, so I'll do a rebuild soon.
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Post by: Reier on July 20, 2009, 02:51:40 PM: Eh-heh-heh-heh on the pics...
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Post by: Weirdo on July 20, 2009, 02:53:23 PM: Eh-heh-heh indeed. Fixed em.
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Post by: 40757 on July 20, 2009, 02:55:40 PM: attach drive and weapon motors to one snapper each, and downgrade drive to RADS.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 20, 2009, 04:07:01 PM: My attempt at a rebuild. Hopefully a bit better, but a lot less stable.

Scythe 4

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/67509scythe4.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75680scythe4ii.jpg)
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Post by: Pwnator on July 20, 2009, 09:09:26 PM: It would be better if your drive was in the chassis. Use a vertical snapper, attach a T connector to its secret attachment point, and attach the two weapon motors there via advanced snapper loading. Then work on your extenders to attach the plow on its normal attachment point. It'll save you enough weight to swap to irons. :D
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Post by: infiniteinertia on July 20, 2009, 10:28:58 PM: Mix both of them together and you get a better bot.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 21, 2009, 10:11:49 AM: This more or less what you mean t Pwn?

Scythe 5

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91395scythe5.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1638scythe5ii.jpg)
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Post by: Reier on July 21, 2009, 10:12:27 AM: Thumz up.
You might be able to put the plow in a little better though.
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Post by: 40757 on July 21, 2009, 11:26:56 AM: Make the Spinners spin inwards (or outwards) so it can drive straight (so change the mace position).
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Post by: Weirdo on July 21, 2009, 02:50:10 PM: Thanks 40757. The tribars now spin outwards, and the bot is much easier to control.

Here's proof...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4967scythe5iii.jpg)

Also, I discovered while testing that the bot is invertable. Which is good.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 21, 2009, 05:39:43 PM: Double post, yay!

I'm thinking of entering Scythe 5 into the Doomed bots tornament. Any more improvements I could make?
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Post by: Urjak on July 21, 2009, 05:41:40 PM: I can see no visible modifications... so yeah, pretty good.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 21, 2009, 05:42:36 PM: =3
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Post by: Somebody on July 21, 2009, 07:31:24 PM: I like it.
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Post by: R0B0SH4RK on July 22, 2009, 12:34:29 AM: You had the spinners correct before, so you shouldn't have turned them.
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Post by: 40757 on July 22, 2009, 01:31:37 AM: Quote from: R0B0SH4RK;53627
You had the spinners correct before, so you shouldn't have turned them.

What do you mean? When they were spinning in the same direction?
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Post by: Pwnator on July 22, 2009, 01:48:48 AM: I think he meant that they should spin inwards.
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Post by: System32 on July 22, 2009, 03:39:41 AM: The only visible reason that SC spinners spin inwards is to avoid ramming racks and prevent them Jamming against oher HS for testing.

But the main problem is that HS trappers are UBER effective against that design.

Shoot me if I'm wrong.
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Post by: Pwnator on July 22, 2009, 04:00:34 AM: Jason spins outwards. And my CPIV clone lost to it (I'll probably post it later), but it kicked Tempus' butt. And Jason's motors aren't bursted. o_O

Oh yeah Weirdo, I apologize if I'm getting too specific here, but if you can shrink the chassis a little more if you attach the snapper first, axle load the arm out then attach the black. While that arm is out of the motor, attach a long extender using its side AP to attach the plow. And to the others. If I'm right, you still have enough weight to put an ice pick at the attachment point near the plow. I might showcase a bot with that said setup. :D
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Post by: Weirdo on July 22, 2009, 07:16:08 AM: I've been trying to work this out, but what would the ice pick do exactly? I've been meaning to do a rebuild but I'm just wondering about the ice-pick.
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Post by: Doomkiller on July 22, 2009, 07:18:01 AM: Quote from: Weirdo;53678
I've been trying to work this out, but what would the ice pick do exactly? I've been meaning to do a rebuild but I'm just wondering about the ice-pick.

On what? If ur talking about the hs, No
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Post by: Weirdo on July 22, 2009, 07:18:48 AM: In reply to what pwn said I could do.
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Post by: Pwnator on July 22, 2009, 07:20:11 AM: Probably like a weapon breaker like Fury's just in case the spinners get locked. My HSes usually lose to Fury because of that mace. >.<

You can always spend the extra weight on something more useful, but I dunno what. XD
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Post by: Doomkiller on July 22, 2009, 07:20:54 AM: Quote from: Weirdo;53681
In reply to what pwn said I could do.

Not really understanding what he said, what i thing is that to attach a single sided pick axe that overlaps the snowplow. Would help to do more damage but ice picks have normals...
Edit: pwn beat me epicfail01
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Post by: Weirdo on July 22, 2009, 07:23:33 AM: Maybe if I kept the spinners spinning outwards...
Do you think that would stop them getting locked?
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Post by: Doomkiller on July 22, 2009, 07:24:41 AM: Quote from: Weirdo;53686
Maybe if I kept the spinners spinning outwards...
Do you think that would stop them getting locked?

yes
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Post by: Pwnator on July 22, 2009, 07:27:35 AM: Yep. But the as S32 said, if they spin outwards, the weapons will most likely fall prey to heavily armed rammers. If they spin inwards, they will most likely hit the rammer's sides, which is better.
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Post by: System32 on July 22, 2009, 07:33:33 AM: Quote from: Pwnator;53688
Yep. But the as S32 said, if they spin outwards, the weapons will most likely fall prey to heavily armed rammers. If they spin inwards, they will most likely hit the rammer's sides, which is better.

But SC HS Spin inwards, and unless those weapons are bursted You'll lose the weapons.

Also, 10 Irons rubbing against a snowplough, or 10 irons rubbing against a snowplow and 4 maces?

Take your pick on which will last longer.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 22, 2009, 11:58:25 AM: Scythe 6

Yeah, so I did another rebuild. I'm not sure what I acheived other than make the chassis slightly smaller, and they could be smaller still. Also I tried Pwns idea of a weapon breaker, but I couldn't get it to work. I'll try again if I decide to rebuild tomorrow.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/24766scythe6.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95190scythe6ii.jpg)
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Post by: 40757 on July 22, 2009, 12:04:34 PM: Move the battery and snapper back, so yes, remove all that chassis space.
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Post by: Weirdo on July 22, 2009, 12:08:18 PM: ^^Will do.

And Pwn, are we talking about the same Fury? SC3? Cos Scythe 6 can beat it no trouble...
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Post by: Reier on July 22, 2009, 12:09:43 PM: SC4.

(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/c/c7/FuryV4.JPG)
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Post by: Weirdo on July 23, 2009, 04:48:04 PM: Right. This is Scythe 7.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16052Scythe7.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47434scythe7ii.jpg)
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Post by: 40757 on July 23, 2009, 08:41:57 PM: Move the plow forward.
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Post by: Sage on July 23, 2009, 09:58:39 PM: Quote from: 40757;54255
Move the plow forward.

Tell him how.
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Post by: Pwnator on July 24, 2009, 03:05:18 AM: My plow and weapon breaker are more forward because I was able to stack the control into the black (probably as hard as stacking blacks, IMO). I was also able to have a smaller chassis because I loaded the snapper's axle out then attached the battery (then loaded it out again to stack the control). You'll gain about 4+kgs on that. :D
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Post by: Weirdo on July 24, 2009, 06:26:59 AM: Thanks for all the feedback everyone, especially pwn who practically told me how to build my own bot.

Anyway, I'm meant to be packing ready to go on holiday first thing tomorrow so I don't know how much I'll be able to get done, but I want to get this sent to DK asap.
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Post by: infiniteinertia on July 24, 2009, 11:38:59 AM: Why?...every one is cloning Fury...
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Post by: Weirdo on July 24, 2009, 01:06:12 PM: ^^My excuse is I'm too inexperianced to come up with anything mindblowingly origional. Or anything origional at all for that matter...

Anyway, rebuilt Scythe 7.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10652scythe8.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80408scythe8ii.jpg)
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Post by: Reier on July 24, 2009, 01:09:17 PM: Did you stack the CB?
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Post by: Weirdo on July 24, 2009, 01:09:37 PM: Yup.