Where can I download v1.3? I only downloaded it once to get DSL, & nowI don't know where to get it
Needs a wedge
Yeah, it needs a wedge. Not too bad though.I need to re-make it, the chasis is too small to even fit in another baseplate anchor
Is downoaded this & updated RA2, but its exactly the sameWhere can I download v1.3? I only downloaded it once to get DSL, & nowI don't know where to get it
Try this:
http://robotarena.com/files/RA2_Patch_V13.exe (http://robotarena.com/files/RA2_Patch_V13.exe)
Rotate the Ramplate horizontally should be about it. Doesn't actually look too bad otherwise.Already done it
Make the wedges longer and you and one wedge is about the same as two wedges right next to each other.Now have longer wedges & 2 small wedges on the end of each ddt
what's on the bot that has agod?The snapper 2 with the razor tips on it
I never had an AGOD on a stock burst before. o_OI wish, already re-done the weapon system & AGOD is just worse. ::2mad Need to build a non-AGODing version
Anyway, it looks quite good. You might want to redo the weapon system and the AGOD might go away. :D
Make the width of it shorter to minimize chassis space.
It's not enough when the bots now are overloaded with weapons and feed off of any exposed chassis. It MAY happen but the chances of that are very very slim. These days, bots take a couple hits to a chassis and the fight is over so that little amount of HP wouldn't mean much. The weight statement would also be false because the weight is in the back forcing the wedges upwards.Please could you reccomend what I should do with the gained 4KG
No because:It is also works as srimech, right?
1) The snapper2s allow me to move the vs's so that they intersect other components
2) Burst motors make motors spin faster (apparently)
Yes but the black extenders were facingin the wrong direction & they are really hard to rotate accurately
Infiniteinertia built Absolute Chaos.
So as most of you know my computer is dead. However, I dug out my old desktop from the garage, dusted it off, and started up my OLD version of RA2 :D. Skimming through my old bots, I found a nice bit of nostalgia...
Introducing, the very first 36HS ever built!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77166screenshot_9.jpg)
As you can see, the setup is more commonly known on the bot Absolute Chaos. This bot was built the day before... Just a plain box chassis, unlike Inf's airtight one on AC.
The chassis could be made a bit smaller, don't ya think? That big space bothers me. A lot. Anyways, I'd use it on another ramplate.It really could do with 3 blacks though. D:
The chassis could be made a bit smaller, don't ya think? That big space bothers me. A lot. Anyways, I'd use it on another ramplate.It really could do with 3 blacks though. D:
The center 2 wedges are on ddtsWhy add 2 more then?
Had the weightThe center 2 wedges are on ddtsWhy add 2 more then?
But thats just me, and Im no stockpert. :PLOL, neither am I
I wonder how a bot that could slip between those wedges and avoid the wedge war totally would do.
MUCH better. Still not perfect though.Thanks, I know that I'm not the best stock builder ;)
Make wedges wider.How should I get the weight to do that?
You could remove the blades if you wanted to, you could get 20kg out of that. What I'd do is switch the weapon and wedge DDT's around, so the wedges are longer without protruding any further from the bot, with the weight distro being further forward, 'cause you'd have the razors further forward as well. And you could widen the wedges with the spare weight as well.Could do, but I like the blades :D
You probably can line your 4WD at the end of the bot. like i did on PitA 8 or FB did on the BBEANS5 champion.I'll try that
Your wedges also would probably be better if closer to the front (plus less weight spent on extender work, and easier self-righting)
Oh and to be a nitpick (but good RA2 building IS nitpicking) rebuild the chassis so the front slope is angled 45 degrees and attach the ramplates directly to the chassis, so you save 10 kg.
the angle extenders dont seem necessary, also a lot of chassis size could be shaved for more frontal Armour1) They are, because if I used the side attatchment points on extenders, even with effe, the HPZs wouldn't attatch
wrong and wrong :P
you can use more then one plastic extender to easily replicate that setup without the need for the angles.
Yes, but that would make the same weight anyway
and there is a lot of space to be saved.. 2 of those DDT's could be added to plastic extenders on the Blue Snapper to allow you to halve that middle section and make the whole chassis a C shape.
How? Note that the ramplates are attatched to the blue snappers aswell
thats how I would do it anyway :P
Actually, I'm think of a setup right now that won't make it look too much like Solstice and doesn't need to have a chassis overhaul.Which is...
Not bad. You have my approval (if you are going to use it for the pack) ;). Try and add some side armour instead of the side wedges.Tried that, didn't work very well, but I'll try again
Hmmm. A popup with undercutting RAD HS?? Where have I seen that before.... ;)Yeah, but mines more of a popup, & yours is more of an 'undercutting RAD HS'
You could probably rotate the snapper 180 degrees, have a 20cm extender with the side APs facing up, mount the t-connector off of that, attach the HPZs directly to the T connector. Then, attach another 20cm extender to the first one and put the plow there. Then, you'd get a more compact setup with better reach behind you.I'll try that, in the meantime...
I'm surprised they do, the weapons overhang the top of the wedge quite a lot.So was I, they sort of 'scoop up' other bots
Somewhat like a pitching machine, except it keeps them pinned on the plow. Right?I'm surprised they do, the weapons overhang the top of the wedge quite a lot.So was I, they sort of 'scoop up' other bots
I also built a new popup which I'm rather proud of :D(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74968UI10.jpg)
Should move the razors closer together.Axle loading...
And how come my copy of the game has never let me put the wheels in other Zteks...
Should move the razors closer together.The center razors are close together
Axle loading...
Why?The weight would be distributed better. Use a shorter extender on the snapper (assuming that's what you have your drive attached to) to attach the drive motors; I would suggest a single 20cm extender.
I'll try the ballast idea click, & hope Nary doesn't notice my showcase untill I post another bot :P
Um, Nary, the ballasts made it better
even pinks ?
without a re-build
I never said that I won't re-build, I always do when I need to, but in this case it doesn't :Pwithout a re-build
stock builders these days...
without a re-build
stock builders these days...
without a re-build
stock builders these days...
That's why stock is boring. You need to make 15 chassis rebuilds after having a good bot, and care so much about space efficiency, and spend hours stacking/getting frustrated because your snapper loading isn't working, and others.
I disagree. Stock is the original RA2, where building matters. In DSL, it's almost only about of Wedges. So the Top Builders plays Stock. That's my opinion.
Anyway, we're offtopic here...Yes, thats what Squirrel Monkey's showcase is for :P Now get back on topic
KO'd R4 & Seism 13
Whaaat? I thought R4 and seism were still good bots!
I think Hot Wheels is the new wedge god.
Whaaat? I thought R4 and seism were still good bots!
they are still pretty good robots but both were among the oldest in BBEANS5...
its really surprising they haven't really been caught until after BBEANS
Is there AI for Hot Wheels anywhere?
list.append(("Hot Wheels","Popup",{'NoChassisTime':2,'range':500,'radius':1.0,'topspeed':130,'throttle':130,'turn':60,'turnspeed':3.1,'weapons':(44,45,)}))@Click: Why doesn't FB stick around and build much anymore?
Now I have something better than NWB to test against.
list.append(("Nuclear Fallout","Popup",{'nose':math.pi,'radius':1,'topspeed':99,'throttle':130,'turn':60,'turnspeed':4,'weapons':(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,)}))
Now you have something even better. :mrgreen:
It's not the amount of extenders, its how you use them and how they look. I agree, it looks messy. Those razors are in an awkward position.Its a TRUE popup
It's not the amount of extenders, its how you use them and how they look. I agree, it looks messy. Those razors are in an awkward position.Its a TRUE popup
The dtts are so far back due to the rule of sevenIt's not the amount of extenders, its how you use them and how they look. I agree, it looks messy. Those razors are in an awkward position.Its a TRUE popup
Right, and I'm saying the DDTs are too far back to make a CLEAN true popup setup, resulting in awkward razors.
Love how you used DDTs in combination with Snappers to hold the wheels in place. What?
1 question though.... Did you have to rebuild that a few times over? Ive tried ideas like that before, and unless you constantly garage-and-back, the design can randomly destroy itself.
I take it, you had to do just that. Snapper loading :P, I only went to the garage and back 3 times, once for each snapper setup, and once for the EFFE'd razors
That ain't a bad name at all. :PWell, I think it is
Why no love for BTTB AI? It has Nuclear Fallout!I already have Nuclear Fallout in my BBEANS AI!
Smallen down the chassis, Snapper Load the DDT off, place the baseplate extender in the slot where the DDt's hinge used to be, and attach the ramplate there via whatever means. If that's allready done, I'd recommend losing razors instead of a battery.
Any comments?No, for some reason this didn't come up when I clicked show unread replies :confused:
Wedge-y looks very compact. I like. Barricade is cool too.I was surprised at the wedginess of barricade TBH, it gets under NWB consistently :D
Wedge-y looks very, very clean. I like it. Barricade seems better with a wider, double-rack setup. You could angle the lower rack downward, and push the upper anchor a bit inward so all of the weapons hit simultaneously.That wouldn't benefit it when upside down though?
Damn, Vertigo. I had no idea that you built so well in stock. I wish I were that good.Um... thanks :P
That wouldn't benefit it when upside down though?
more people should make RA2 vids in their showcase :) also try and upload at least 480 vids to youtube. all you need to do is import your vid to windows movie maker and when you can select to quality it saves the video as, as long as you use Fraps to record.I take it that Fraps is free. right?
Awesome vid, Vertigo.Thanksmore people should make RA2 vids in their showcase :) also try and upload at least 480 vids to youtube. all you need to do is import your vid to windows movie maker and when you can select to quality it saves the video as, as long as you use Fraps to record.I take it that Fraps is free. right?
Just torrent fraps.
but it did find one or two minor infections.UMMM.....
EDIT: Why does no one properly skin components anymore...Because invert-colors is all the rage today.
Showcase originality = fail
Originality attempts = poor
Why is there praise for the expected?
Showcase originality = fail
Originality attempts = poor
Why is there praise for the expected?
Ian, its a little hard to make something origional, and can insta-kill as well as a typical pop-up.Showcase originality = fail
Originality attempts = poor
Why is there praise for the expected?
I've been trying to persuade people to be more original, but they just stick to what they know because they know it's effective.
The Snapper II that's green is called the Snapper2, just FYIAh, I get confused
looks nice.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95780MW Chained VS.jpg)Insides pl0x
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55424MW C VS Insides.jpg)The control board is inside the black FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
1) The control board is on top of the black(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55424MW C VS Insides.jpg)The control board is inside the black FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
Well so much for my idea to clone it.
And I take it you hit the pause button a few times in order to get the HPs like that. right?
1) The control board is on top of the blackIt looked like it was inside.
2) I'd be honoured :PBut of course, it cant go in my HW Space team, as I already have a VS.
3) Nope, not at all, I used axle loadingBut axle loading pretty much IS use of the pause button.
I don't use the pause button :P3) Nope, not at all, I used axle loadingBut axle loading pretty much IS use of the pause button.
So would you mind explaining it a bit more, please?
Ive always had bad luck with that, but ehh....I don't use the pause button :P3) Nope, not at all, I used axle loadingBut axle loading pretty much IS use of the pause button.
So would you mind explaining it a bit more, please?
Square extender on motor, spin, stop quickly by changing tab ect.
Whoa that bot is awesome. Inf's comment about lack of originality got to you and you had to build something original? ;)Yep, you hit the nail on the head there :P
It probably needs to be a bit faster in order to be really good though.
It would be even better by dropping a black to get a snowplough on there.Tell that to Windmill...
YAYBLADESYeah, I'd move the angled ones out a little.
They're not covering much, though.
1st one looks like it's giving you the middle finger.I was honestly about to post this exact same thing.
Oh well :P1st one looks like it's giving you the middle finger.I was honestly about to post this exact same thing.
Cool bracket wedge look. Dunno if they're the best for flipping though?Yeah, they seem to work OK
Looks like GK's Fedex Uno in stock. Fedex Uno did really good so that bot should be good too... I bet the reduced speed of the angle motors hurt it though.Yeah, it doesn't help
I really like the look of that thing. Is 12 Irons a bit much to go for?Yeah, it was a struggle to get all of that in weight
Innovative for a crawler. (http://www.wavesncaves.com/forum/Smileys/default/thumbs_up_smiley.gif)
Not bad. It does look a bit thin, though, and maybe a little messy.Not messy really, setup is nice and clean
remove a blackA black what?
Coolio bot. Though I think you'd be better off with a nifty instead of 4 pinks.Yeah, but I wanted the low height
\o/Not bad actually, get under Win! Win! WIN! & XZAI 2 reliably, but not Mutiny
how good are the wedges?
You were inspired by me, weren't you?Nope
It doesn't look big enough for 1. And there probably wouldn't be enough weight. Very nice build, though. Is it properly invertible?
It doesn't look big enough for 1. And there probably wouldn't be enough weight. Very nice build, though. Is it properly invertible?
it would be enough weight, i made something just like this a year ago with one snapper.
ewwww t connectors.So what? Fully contained within two supervolts and makes the setup nice and semetrical :D
At first I tried to get a 29kg chassis that would make it exactly 249.0, the first chassis I made that could contain all components and stay underweight was 28.8Less drive!
Make the chassis slightly bigger for slightly more HP?
Probably spinner bait, but very nicely built.Much less so than any other popup actually
Really? It looks awfully narrow. Do the angled sides help perhaps?Front's thin enough to be fully covered by the ramplate :D
Didn't i read somewhere that plows and ramplates had the same hp ;_;In this case, the plow would be a bigger target, and the ramplate covers all it needs to
Looks pretty nice however
I like how the ramplate looks with the casters.Yeah, I did put a snowplow on at first, changed to a ramplate and decided that was more efficient and looked cooler :P
Still a nice display of snapper loading1 Black extender, and then an internal red extender(attached to the black one) off the top attachment point, right?
Yes, apart from they're both black :DStill a nice display of snapper loading1 Black extender, and then an internal red extender(attached to the black one) off the top attachment point, right?
Weight?Knowing vertigo, it will be atleast 200 underweight....
Not too bad. Looks quite narrow, though, could be easily flanked, especially with that slow drive. Would it be better with the wedge and weapon motors swapped around?Nah, wedge is pretty good
Try moving the weapon motors a bit more up and putting iron spikes on the outer extenders to get more reach and better scooping action.Seems to work well as-is, and I'm not too sure where I'd get the weight :/
SWEET!Nope, came up with the concept myself earlier today
(was that one inspired by my bot or not?)
Looks nice, is it a MW?Yep
CorrectFor some reason, I expected T connectors.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5133Sandstorm 2 Insides.png)
As much as they can be useful, I try to use them as little as possible, due to high weight and equal hitpoints to normal extendersCorrectFor some reason, I expected T connectors.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5133Sandstorm 2 Insides.png)
For all intents and purposes, those wedges should be goin \/\/\/\/\/\/\Wat?
I.E, bouncy
If you don't want wobbles make the weapons static.They don't really wobble, just they make the wedges poor
Not liking the gap in the ramplates...Neither do I :P
Looks a little like the new Radiance... but still nice.Knew that was coming :P
Insides?OK
How does it outwedge Hot Wheels with those snappers?Because it does?
How does it outwedge Hot Wheels with those snappers?
Ugh, what I meant was I thought DDT wedges were better than snapper wedges.Not always, I think you may find that NWB has Snapper wedges
So all the things people have told me about DDT's and snappers in my showcase is all just useless information?I think it's all quite random, depending on the bot TBH, though SnapperII wedges are definitely worse than the other two
So all the things people have told me about DDT's and snappers in my showcase is all just useless information?I think it's all quite random, depending on the bot TBH, though SnapperII wedges are definitely worse than the other two
That's what I meant, they can both be goodSo all the things people have told me about DDT's and snappers in my showcase is all just useless information?I think it's all quite random, depending on the bot TBH, though SnapperII wedges are definitely worse than the other two
Not always...
Seism 16, for example.
S-16 had snapperII wedges...Oh, I thought you put Seism 13
Or am I misunderstanding your post?
"Perfect" Stock LW VS? :gawe:Possibly, without the glitchy-ness
I'm not sure about Perfect, but it's not too bad. =) Is there a T connector in there at all?Yup
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74864Cyclone.png)
I made mine static (less havok). Is the slight speed increase really worth instability?
Is that a clone of Pwn's ?Nope, or an unintentional one if it is
Nice to see you building again, Vert. =) It doesn't look too bad, but I might want to try improving the wedges somehow. Seems this would suffer from Bounty Hunter Syndrome, and that would undermine the whole bot, I think.Exactly what I thought, and it did. The only reason I'm using ballast is because somehow it makes the wedges on par with Mutiny 2, which seems pretty decent for a MW VS