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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: usman111 on January 15, 2009, 11:38:40 AM
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hi, i have a few bots and would like for anyone to tell me what i can do to improve and critisism.
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1469/69868242wg2.th.jpg) (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69868242wg2.jpg)
popup, 1 blk bat, 2 hp ztek, 2 burst ddt, 1 snapper, 2 razor strips and rubbers
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2671/94281803ow2.th.jpg) (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=94281803ow2.jpg)
popup, 2 blk bat, 2 hp ztek, 6 ddt, 8 razor strips and rubbers
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Not bad.
All razors for weapons, getting rid of that snowplow, frontal caster armor and 4WD HP Ztek drive would help your HW well.
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where to put the extra 2 zteks though?
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where to put the extra 2 zteks though?
make a new chassis.
as for the mw, put a 45 degree baseplate anchor inbetween the ddts and attach a ramplate for frontal protect. it helps a lot, and you have the weight.
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redone both-
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6859/28409994jy5.th.jpg) (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28409994jy5.jpg)
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1746/34429557dl7.th.jpg) (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=34429557dl7.jpg)
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Your caster armored popup's wedge is too steep IMO.
I was thinking of something like that:
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9389/bountyhunterpa7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/3599/bountyhuntersplashnv0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Of course you won't be able to put that many casters... maybe more side casters (anti HS thing)
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Wait... Is that Ultimatum getting pwned? If so, i can actually put up a decent bot for BBEANS5 then...
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mw looks good. HW needs little more work, but its getting there. can you stack blacks? thats one thing you should work on. cause the HW need more battery. redo the chassis and make the wedge much steeper, the way it is not much will slide up. try to strighten out the castors, and put more on for more prtoection. or do the ramplate thing you did on your MW. also try to make your chassis as small as possible. (make it skinnier)
thats all for now.
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ive tried stacking blacks but have had no luck
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ive tried stacking blacks but have had no luck
just keep trying. few tips:
place the first batt and then go to the chassis tab. zoom in all the way, go back to the components tab, AND WITHOUT TOUCHING the black square, attach another black batt. this wll give you more pixels to move around in when trying to stack.
next tip is to rotate every few minutes or so. it helps, believe me.
move the black slowly, barely moving your mouse at all.
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hurray my first bbatt stack (on the right) bot-
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3075/62311109rc2.th.jpg) (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62311109rc2.jpg)
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looks pretty good actually. congrats on the black batt stacking. show us some battleshots!
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(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3904/96110682az4.jpg)
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3186/57899280yj4.jpg)
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I can't see them.
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Borg queen & BGG.
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I meant I can't see the image.
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what do you mean
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They don't appear.
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somic wrong with your computer then
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use gametechmods image uploaded instead of imageshack
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I see them. I also like the bot that you submitted for BOTM. alot. Nice bots!
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Not bad, for a beginner.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19574ag.JPG)
2 blk batt, 2 hp ztek drive, 2 hp ztek for weps, 8 razor tips each disk, 2 disk, wheel protections, back and side, to wedges on 1 snapper2. Again any improvements to be made please tell.
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This bot has potential.
-1 black is enough for 4 HP's (or if you really want power add a nifty)
-Effeing with high power servos = wasted weight. Use normal snappers or even Snapper II's (find the AI parts unlocker in the downloads)
-Rear defense (razors and spike strips) is pretty much pointless, you'd better focus on side defense, maybe using caster armor, or two actual wedges (two small wedges on two different snappers)
-Then you could get a smaller chassis (and it seems also you can get a flatter one)
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hmm on beetlebro website says big blk batt gives 800 output and hp ztek -400? so 2 should be right for 4 hps?
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For some reason you can underpower your "spin-motor-only" bots 50% (spinner, rammer, poker, etc), but don't do that if they have active burst motors (popup, flipper, hammer).
This loophole is actually said on Click's website before the stats table that you're quoting.
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A general rule of thumb: never use less than two Black Batteries on any HW. Ever.
Also, the big servo is pretty much wasted weight. Remove it, and use the weight to put on another snapper and wedge. Also, try to have only one small wedge per snapper.
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All servos are exactly the same in amount of weight being able to be carried and lifted. so smaller=better
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I have say other wise about that servo. It may be the bigsest in its hight set like a drive motor, but its the easyest to fit in a low body. I say keep it.
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If he switched it, he would have enough weight to put iron spikes instead of razor tips.
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redone the bot:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97399los.JPG)
the back thing is pretty useless but had alot of weight left over (2 blk batt stacked).
And a new bot, similiar to Vortex CE:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51103vce.JPG)
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i think the redo is worse, considering you dont need that protection in the back.
and the CE clone, ick.
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Well, your Armorgeddon is better - frontally. The rear defense that is indeed useless, as your two casters just between the 2 blacks and the right drive Ztek.
It's not because you have weight left that you must, well, waste it.
You better improve your drive, or add more weapons, or more front defense.
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Your Vortex CE should be flatter and use grannies. Also, you better change the irons position (one under the other, like Little Darling and most of the modern HS) because your spinner will do more damage like that.
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OK, removed the crap off rear and added more drive:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10437los.JPG)
CE clone: spikes are now under originals.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9376vce.JPG)
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HURRAH FOR SAGE'S SKIN PACK.
For Vortex CE, nice attempt at an HS. Everyone says "big wheels, big target" but those wheels are skinny, making it harder to hit from the side (where wheels are usually hit).
One thing you should keep in mind is that you shouldn't listen to Naryar all the time. He's strictly by the book, and has little real expeirance in good stock building.
Here's my table:
HW HS- 2 blacks. NO exceptions.
HW popup- 2-3 Burst Motors= 3 Blacks (4 if you have extra weight, but should probably use it for armor), 4 Burst motors= 4 Blacks (3 if really, really desperate for weight, but plan for 4)
HW VS- 2 blacks.
HW Rammer- 4wd is 1 black. this is where the 2 black rule is not needed, cause it's just drive motors. 6wd you really should use 2 blacks, because if you use one it will be actually about the same speed as 4wd with 2 blacks, just a little faster perhaps (no concrete testing here)
All that is from almost 2 years experiance. But, each and every design is different.
More Battery- More Power- More Used Weight
Less Battery- Less Power- MOre free wieght to use on other things.
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The VS is not bad, not bad at all.
the HS, again, ick.
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VS is decent, I would however make it so all of the drive is built off of those snappers and organize the insides a little better. For one, you could use a Snapper 2 for each of those weapon motors.
Re: Sage on HW Rammers: Black and nifty is fine on 6wd.
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HURRAH FOR SAGE'S SKIN PACK.
For Vortex CE, nice attempt at an HS. Everyone says "big wheels, big target" but those wheels are skinny, making it harder to hit from the side (where wheels are usually hit).
One thing you should keep in mind is that you shouldn't listen to Naryar all the time. He's strictly by the book, and has little real expeirance in good stock building.
Here's my table:
HW HS- 2 blacks. NO exceptions.
HW popup- 2-3 Burst Motors= 3 Blacks (4 if you have extra weight, but should probably use it for armor), 4 Burst motors= 4 Blacks (3 if really, really desperate for weight, but plan for 4)
HW VS- 2 blacks.
HW Rammer- 4wd is 1 black. this is where the 2 black rule is not needed, cause it's just drive motors. 6wd you really should use 2 blacks, because if you use one it will be actually about the same speed as 4wd with 2 blacks, just a little faster perhaps (no concrete testing here)
All that is from almost 2 years experiance. But, each and every design is different.
More Battery- More Power- More Used Weight
Less Battery- Less Power- MOre free wieght to use on other things.
What about 6 DDT burst? And always 2 blk batt for HW HS even for different amounts of motors?