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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: TleeC11B on November 12, 2008, 01:32:24 AM
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I'm new here and I know alot of these bots are "noobish".
I know all the screenies are in DSL. I JUST installed dsl so dont bust my balls about the STOCKs in DSL. They were built in stock WAY before DSL was installed. so... Enjoy.
I will add Battle Pics Later. prolly some vids too. I'll make them worth while.
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Not that bad for a newbie. I found all these bots cool-looking, i like that messed-up look with irons everywhere. And a newbie using caster armor is pretty much new (excepted for venko who is unnatural)
Just try to avoid:
-redbirds (not efficient),
-small battery packs on heavier than an ant (unefficient too)
-wheels heavier than 18kg (and miniwheels too)
-heavy extender work - just use the round extenders as much as you can.
-showcasing too much SHW's, because most of us don't like this.
And finally go here: http://www.beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm
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i love the look of them all. very creative. you should try making some creative heavyweights now.
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all the new active builders these days are so good...
no.
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Well, you can sorta' see the important techniques used in his designs. Some of them, atleast, like the spike placement.
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Venko would be proud.
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No R1885, i dont believe he would.
sit the next few plays out.
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This is Spike Lee... He is HW.. I have a Ton of LWs and MWs Too. some are kewl.. some are just blah...
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If you look in the battle shots you can see two poles pretruding upward with a spike on the end.. this was added due to ram bots flipping him... (no more does that happen)
I'll add more in a bit.
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It actually looks awesome and is the most original bot i've ever seen for a while, but not for combat effectiveness.
-I would use iron spikes rather than long pole spikes because pole spikes only do damage with the tip, but not iron spikes.
-I've tried a chained face spinner (your main weapon) before, but it was not really interesting. You should just use two different discs rather than one very powerful disc.
-Pole spikes are useless on spinners. The'yre great on rammers and pistons, that said.
-These hammer heads are worthless - you should have the same result with a mace and 2,5 times less weight.
-Maybe you should make it invertible, and then use a black batt instead of two nifties.
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All of your bots are awesome, but not that many are the kind of godbots people expect from the stock game. I suggest you switch completely to DSL if you want to build in that style.
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I used those hammers for wheel protection alone. it is extremely effective in battle and it doesn't flip over so I dont need it to be invertable... But I am still fighting stock (retail game) bots. I wanted to use the iron spikes instead of pole spikes but iron spikes weigh a bit more... I can revise a few of them (because of there length they equal the weight of irons.) anyways.. I'mm convert some more screenies and post my other bots.
I'm trying to keep my bots realistic as possible... some of them I might let some weapon pass through another or something but I do try to keep them mostly realistic. I haven't looked at a WHOLE lot of other showcases but the ones I have looked at were very unimpressive. (not being a flamer I just have only looked at like 3 showcases.
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ok.
1. look at my showcase if you want impressive (not trying to brag, but people do seem to think my bots are pretty good)
2. there's no in-between with realism. either its realistic or it's not.
3. get a harder AI pack, like starcore 3.
4. i find that wheel protection is a last minute thing. if you have the weight, use it. Otherwise, use the weight on more important things like weapons.
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thnx for the constructive criticism.. I'm uploading a new bot as soon as my sh**ty as comp is done converting them to jpegs.
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thnx for the constructive criticism.. I'm uploading a new bot as soon as my sh**ty as comp is done converting them to jpegs.
much easier to open in something like paint and just save them as .jpgs. then you can crop out the rest of the botlab, which we dont need to see.
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much easier to open in something like paint and just save them as .jpgs. then you can crop out the rest of the botlab, which we dont need to see.
funny you said that... I was doing it as you posted this... lolz. (wish I still have gimp) this stand in comp REALLY blows... 156ramm 600mhz.. integrated vid :(
anyways...
this is Scorpup MW I got 2 teams of LWs I'll post a little later.
I even threw in a few HWs against him...
I'm DLing some better AI tomorrow. So I'll have to step up meh game.
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Just thought of about 15 different ways to beef this bot up like crazy..
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alright! now were getting somewhere. remember only use granny wheels if you absolutely have to. they dont give better grip (or if they do, not much). shinies are the best, so switch to those. also, 4wd RAD (those black motors are called rads in RA2 lingo) is a bad idea. go with zteks for speed. as for wedges, if wedges are on motors they do much better. and go for low ground clearance. (this means keep the wheels close the the bottom of the chassis, as if the chassis is scraping along the ground)
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Do not download Starcore 3. I don't think you are ready yet. I think that Starcore 1 is better for you. Get good at it and then get three. (although when I got it I had no problem with it with my existing sucky bots...hmm)
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these recent bots are just ones that I have built since I've reinstalled the game... (I reinstalled about 3 days ago due to my good compy dieing a very sad and depressing death.)
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Do not download Starcore 3. I don't think you are ready yet. I think that Starcore 1 is better for you. Get good at it and then get three. (although when I got it I had no problem with it with my existing sucky bots...hmm)
i SUCKED when i got SCv3. it improved my building skills tenfold.
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meet Bloodthirster (revisited, revised, and without remorse)
Yeah.. got starcore v3.0 only one of my existing bots could partially handle it.. so I had to conjure this beast to take care of some business.
(I know I didn't name him that's why it says "enter bot name" on the battle shots.)
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It is extremely stable (somehow) there are 9 maces on each tribar.. 12 iron spikes on each burst piston...
and unfortunately I could only fit a nifty in there.. no blacks.. the upside is.. he destroys anything hes up against within its battery life... I just got starcore today and made this bot today... I dunno what bots are supposed to be the toughest, SO lemme know so I can pit my bots against them... Thnx again for the feedback.
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Impressive. I would try to stick to squarish chassis though... To eliminate extra space.
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I wanted to, but just about all my bots are shoe boxes.. I just wanted to change it up a bit :-P...
thnx though. I know the slim wheels suck balls but shiny's can't reach the ground and since I dunno how to jam motors from just anywhere I have to do what I can...
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Hard Bots:
Vortex CE
Rabid Pit Bull
Neglected Waterbug
Those are the hardest.
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Vortex CE, hard? He has nearly no defenses ! Try Little Darling instead...
Looks good Tlee, although:
-i love hybrids, but IMO 2 different weapon systems are better than 3. HS/rammers are particularly good.
-Try rebuilding it (yes a square chassis is better) and stick a black batt on this, as slipperbottoms.
-remember, golden rule of RA2: lighter bots.
-I don't really know if these high-placed HS weapons are very useful.
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that is possibly the ugliest stock robot ever built.
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Vortex CE, hard? He has nearly no defenses ! Try Little Darling instead... not true. depends on what you go against him with. best hammer killer i have ever faced.
Looks good Tlee, although:
-i love hybrids, but IMO 2 different weapon systems are better than 3. HS/rammers are particularly good.
-Try rebuilding it (yes a square chassis is better) and stick a black batt on this, as well as slipperbottoms.
-remember, golden rule of RA2: lighter bots. i hope you mean lighter chassis...
-I don't really know if these high-placed HS weapons are very useful.
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that is possibly the ugliest stock robot ever built.
good.. have you ever seen the bloodthirster from warhammer 40k?? lol google it.
it maybe ugly and a once over robot.. But revised I believe it could be unstoppable.
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when you believe it to be unstoppable, tell me. i'll gladly play it online.
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Then enjoy a quick fight against Absolute Chaos.
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when you believe it to be unstoppable, tell me. i'll gladly play it online.
I was speaking figuratively... (i've seen your bots lol) but I'll take you up on that offer.. eventually.
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screenie says it all...
yeah I beat up RPB arrrg!
This is all stock I just re-skinned some stuff.
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And the skin for the paint job.. I know its kinda sheety but its only my second one..
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This was my first...
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not bad... did you get under RPB head on or kill its side? the ramplates look cool too.
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started in the front I was doing really well.. then I flanked'em and one shotted him from the side. lol he's not an easy one..
today was my first day of skinning so I'm kinda going a little crazy with it.
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I really like the ram plates, those look good.
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I really like the ram plates, those look good.
if you want them I'll post them, (cant right now though on my grammas compy.
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Sure.
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today was my first day of skinning so I'm kinda going a little crazy with it.
Well looks great for such a 'novice'. Good job skinning.
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I was changing some stuff on my car (300zx turbo 1984) I had to fix a head light... I had unhooked the headlight motor a long time ago b/c I think it looks better down and it works the same up/down... But anyways I removed my headlight motor (servo) and now I'm planning a flipper bot to build with it.. I have some 1/8 inch aluminum diamond plate I'm gonna use for the upper and side chassis I'll probably use thin sheet metal for the base plate but that is yet to be acquired so I might try to get an old stop sign for it instead. anyways this is what the servo looks like...
(http://monsterautoparts.com/CHEVROLET/CORVETTE/_CORVETTE%20IMAGES/00-04%20VETTE%20HEAD%20MTR.jpg)
This one belongs to a corvette but it is almost identical. and I'm sure they work the same. The only problem I have is the servo doesn't have an arc motion.. I'm almost positive it spins. But I'm pretty sure I can tweak it a bit to get it working in my favor.
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Wow, so much Warhammer40000, I'm wondering if you have an un-show cased bot named "Blood Thirster" back there. Dreadnaught looks effective as it is cool looking. Honor Guard is well designed, I honestly have not seen a poll spike in side a iron. Your bots look like the might just get you far in a tournament.
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Wow, so much Warhammer40000, I'm wondering if you have an un-show cased bot named "Blood Thirster" back there. Dreadnaught looks effective as it is cool looking Agreed, still i've seen better hammers). Honor Guard is well designed, I honestly have not seen a poll spike in side a iron (Mainly because pole spikes are not efficient on HS). Your bots look like the might just get you far in a tournament (Wrong. Dreadnaught could win a few fights if it falls against averagely built bots, but not Honor Guard)
Here.
Tlee, you're on the right path, continue building like that.
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I was speaking figuratively... (i've seen your bots lol) but I'll take you up on that offer.. eventually.
no you wont.
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will to!
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Wow, so much Warhammer40000, I'm wondering if you have an un-show cased bot named "Blood Thirster" back there. Dreadnaught looks effective as it is cool looking. Honor Guard is well designed, I honestly have not seen a poll spike in side a iron. Your bots look like the might just get you far in a tournament.
these bots are from my 'chaos' team. I'm making an Eldar after this one.
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This bot is slightly underpowered for its weight but it was still relatively effective in the battles... the main focus is... the skin... so smooth.. yes..
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The hammer setup is good. But,
"slightly underpowered" More like slightly overpowered. 2 Supervolts is enough for that bot, 3 is plenty.
2 HP Z-teks is the same as 4 regular Z-teks, except it weighs way less. Upgrade at least two of the drive motors to HP.
Add more armor/spikes to the front, the corners are extremely vulnerable right now.
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The hammer setup is good. But,
"slightly underpowered" More like slightly overpowered. 2 Supervolts is enough for that bot, 3 is plenty.
2 HP Z-teks is the same as 4 regular Z-teks, except it weighs way less. Upgrade at least two of the drive motors to HP.
Add more armor/spikes to the front, the corners are extremely vulnerable right now.
HPs wont fit in my case :(... I can however mod it a bit maybe make 2 of the wheels outside of the bot.
I skinned this bot then just threw stuff in it just so I could show off the paint jorb :) thnx for the info click.
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ztecs replaced with hps, removed one bat and re-placed another.. changed the shinies to grannys for invert-ability.. revamped the front bumper with tons of little razors as you can see.
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Actually looks pretty cool. Try and shrink the chassis a bit more and maybe stack some of the batts and get more spikes for the front.
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I know the name needs a little work.
This is my first antweight... go easy :)
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do I really need to list the parts?
The angle motor is tilted at about 20 degrees.
Why do base-plate anchors weigh so bloody much???
Also why cant I stick my spike right on the motor?!
Anyways whataya think?
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Chassis is too large. Disect one of the AW drillbots in SCv3 to learn how to do them correctly.
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Chassis is too large. Disect one of the AW drillbots in SCv3 to learn how to do them correctly.
do you have to be so blunt?
nowhere in the process of creativity do I remember seeing copying something else.
btw I like making really realistic bots... not stacking sh** on sh** and through other sh**.
I will check out one of the bots from SCv3.
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Alot of the aw's in SCv3 don't have stacked s***.
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btw I like making really realistic bots... not stacking sh** on sh** and through other sh**.
Then get DSL.
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I have dsl.. but whats wrong with making REALISTIC bots in stock aswell???? and whats wrong with glitching in dsl?? I dont get you guys about that... its ok with stock but not ok with dsl. It shouldn't be OK at all.
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Happy n00b question day. This is like the balance of the world. It is nearly the same as asking why the rabbit doesn't eat the fox. Just accept it and live with it. Bots are better in stock because of glitches, and DSL was made to be more realistic. If you havn't noticed, most of the parts (NPC-T64, Perm, E-teks, etc.) are real parts. That is why there is a realistic rule.
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Happy n00b question day. This is like the balance of the world. It is nearly the same as asking why the rabbit doesn't eat the fox. Just accept it and live with it. Bots are better in stock because of glitches, and DSL was made to be more realistic. If you havn't noticed, most of the parts (NPC-T64, Perm, E-teks, etc.) are real parts. That is why there is a realistic rule.
lol it was a rhetorical question... I know about the glitches and I know its been tuned into a fine art with some/most of you guys I'm just saying you guys act like it is AGAINST the rules to try to build an effective/realistic bot in stock... thats all.
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do you have to be so blunt?
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Yes. I do not believe in compassion.
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SB it is NOT a n00b question.
Well... we glitch in Stock because it is unrealistic. See DSA and some parts unbalanced? We use multiple razors rather than a sledgehammer because it's more efficient.
DSL is more realistic; even if you can use the same glitches than in Stock (but good luck if you use DSA), you can actually use a sledgehammer rather than multiple razors and it's possibly better on a spinner.
These are just... customs, strongly implanted within the community. Don't be surprised if you go against them, as several newbies do.
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I wasn't going against them or trying to.. I was mainly wondering why I get my balls busted for not glitching when I made the AW.
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Mainly because it was bad. The chassis is too large, the weapon is inefficient, it is off-centred, and the battery supply is too low. Remember: 90% of the time, we're not actually busting your balls. Friendly advice does not work well over the internet. It usually just ends up sounding like flaming, as my first post probably did.
All I was saying was to study some of the more effective AW's to see:
a) How you can fit everything into such a small package.
b) What weapons are more/most effective.
c) How to set up weapons and such.
--General rant aimed at no one in particular time--
In my opinion, "creativity" on the part of sub-par builders is total BS. On more than one occasion I have seen new builders rejecting advice from vets because they "wanted to be creative." Basically, what it means is that you don't need this advice because you are obviuosly already sooooo gooooood. What a lot fail to understand is that we're not trying to stifle creativity. Far from it, actually, we want creativity above all else, but what seperates creativity from what these people do is basically effectiveness. 99% of the time, these "creative" bots are crap. They flat out suck. What we're trying to do is help their skills along so that they can eventually be able to come up with new designs, to be creative. Look at Clickbeetle. Probably the most skilled builder around, many would say that he is the most creative builder on these forums. Why? Because he can blend effectiveness and style seemlessly (see: Ultimate Sacrifice, Frag Beetle 2, Heroic Sacrifice). So remember: It's not that we don't want you to be creative, we just want to give you the basic skills you need in order to be.
--End rant--
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You're forgetting Firebeetle's DSL Bumble Ball. (Yes, I lurked)
But still, if you do make a creative bot that sucks, You could always make it better for next time around. (See: Firestorm series)
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It's a god damn BUMBLE BALL - nothing about blending creativity and efficiency.
Neglected Waterbug.
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It was creative, and for being a bot powered by only one motor, it was pretty efficient.
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Mainly because it was bad. The chassis is too large, the weapon is inefficient, it is off-centred, and the battery supply is too low. Remember: 90% of the time, we're not actually busting your balls. Friendly advice does not work well over the internet. It usually just ends up sounding like flaming, as my first post probably did.
All I was saying was to study some of the more effective AW's to see:
a) How you can fit everything into such a small package.
b) What weapons are more/most effective.
c) How to set up weapons and such.
--General rant aimed at no one in particular time--
In my opinion, "creativity" on the part of sub-par builders is total BS. On more than one occasion I have seen new builders rejecting advice from vets because they "wanted to be creative." Basically, what it means is that you don't need this advice because you are obviuosly already sooooo gooooood. What a lot fail to understand is that we're not trying to stifle creativity. Far from it, actually, we want creativity above all else, but what seperates creativity from what these people do is basically effectiveness. 99% of the time, these "creative" bots are crap. They flat out suck. What we're trying to do is help their skills along so that they can eventually be able to come up with new designs, to be creative. Look at Clickbeetle. Probably the most skilled builder around, many would say that he is the most creative builder on these forums. Why? Because he can blend effectiveness and style seemlessly (see: Ultimate Sacrifice, Frag Beetle 2, Heroic Sacrifice). So remember: It's not that we don't want you to be creative, we just want to give you the basic skills you need in order to be.
--End rant--
Well... I will take back some of my aggression I have demonstrated here to fore.. considering, you are completely right about the "friendly advice" seeming much like "flaming" I've had many online discussions go sour because of the lack of tone you can project onto the net. I will also admit that yes my AW did suck but I did not say It was creative by no means. It was weak. I just dont like the fact that most AWs with a decent weapon system has A wheel or something.. lol
Anyways I appreciate your rant for what its worth and I will always accept constructive criticism and "friendly advice" on my showcases and again I apologize for jumping the gun on the whole thinking I was being... dumped on.
has anyone even noticed?! my avatar is THE Avatar! yarrr matie.
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TleeC11B you can enter A.D.D.I.C.T.
You have a talent for building a freak bots.
I like them.
See you around...
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I'm surprise you were mentioned only once in that thread.