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Title: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 06:27:31 AM
I have just downloaded stock onto my new laptop, and I CBA to get DSL. So I am trying my hand at stock, even though I, usually, only try DSL.

So, to start off, a MW HS, WTFbot, so named because if I rotated the HPZs into each other by the servos, it would havok out similar to the trinity glitch. IDK if anyone has experienced this before. DSA, of course:


As always, constructive criticism is welcomed.



Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 12, 2011, 07:06:01 AM
I'd say change to shinies and swap the Nifty for a Black.

SteelYard Dogs are pathetic, by the way. Heck, all of the Stock AI is. Get the Starcore pack for a greater challenge.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 09:37:49 AM
I'd say change to shinies and swap the Nifty for a Black.

SteelYard Dogs are pathetic, by the way. Heck, all of the Stock AI is. Get the Starcore pack for a greater challenge.

I have no weight for a black, and I know about the AI. I have just installed stock, and I CBA to get tougher packs. thanks for the help, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on July 12, 2011, 09:58:28 AM
Just use one snapper II in this case, and if that's too unstable (which it shouldn't be) then use only one servo to hold the weapon motors.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 12, 2011, 10:48:06 AM
I have no weight for a black

Of course you do: 393.8 - Minis + Shinies - Nifty + Black = 397.8

And if you mean space, just rebuild the bot.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on July 12, 2011, 12:27:50 PM
On the topic of Stock AI, AT LEAST test whatever bot you have agenst EMERGENCY, as its "somewhat" of a challenge from Stock.

Oh, and TC could mount the HPs like this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41182LWFireball3.png)
And save around 40-ish weight for weapons and what-not.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 03:43:22 PM
I have been updating this and other bots, and a problem has occured:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39511Problem.jpg)

Now, that 'arm' is identical to the others, it doesn't help rotating the mace or spinning the arm. it says the mace is intersecting a part, which is untrue. This has happened in other bots, ruining their design. I cannot continue with this problem, it ruins the whole bot. Help?

Note, this is the update on WTFbot as well.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 12, 2011, 03:44:46 PM
Just EFFE
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 03:53:25 PM
Thanks, Vert. Not sure what to do with remaining weight:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44956Update1.jpg)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 12, 2011, 04:01:34 PM
Thanks, Vert. Not sure what to do with remaining weight
Extend the chassis a bit and upgrade the drive maybe? And/or use a small wedge on a snapper2/DDT.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 12, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
Move one mace on each extender to the end of the extender.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 04:29:02 PM
Thanks, Vert. Not sure what to do with remaining weight
Extend the chassis a bit and upgrade the drive maybe? And/or use a small wedge on a snapper2/DDT.
Wedges...
On a HS???

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on July 12, 2011, 04:32:00 PM
No wedge, in this case moar armour would be a better choice.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: FOTEPX on July 12, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
Snowplow.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 12, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
A Snowplow would be a good choice here. You should move one of the maces onto the end of the extender, to give better protection. Maybe add an iron on the end of the extender instead to get a bit more reach. If you're only having 12 weapons, you could do with better drive.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on July 12, 2011, 05:07:38 PM
What's the grey thing in front of the T connector? You could attach the Snowplow to that.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 05:22:31 PM
It's a forklift prong-thing, for balance. See pick about the problem for better view.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on July 12, 2011, 05:48:28 PM
It's a forklift prong-thing, for balance. See pick about the problem for better view.
You could extend it out a bit and put a wedge on the end.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 12, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
Static wedges are terrible, I'd consider adding a Snowplow on there instead. It does need the frontal protection.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on July 12, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
Static wedges are terrible, I'd consider adding a Snowplow on there instead. It does need the frontal protection.
And TBH, he doesn't need a black battery.
1 Nifty works just fine.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 12, 2011, 05:55:36 PM
If it's 2 HPZ's and 2 RADs, then he needs a black for them.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 06:16:19 PM
Static wedges are terrible, I'd consider adding a Snowplow on there instead. It does need the frontal protection.
It is meant as a stabiliser, I prefer it to a caster.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 12, 2011, 06:19:33 PM
the plow would work as a stabilizer.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 06:39:02 PM
New name, ThornPool (Hey, I couldn't think of a better one in 15 seconds). Update:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77091Insides2.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55477Gameplay3.jpg)

Will get Starcore when I get back of holidays, downloading Stock here took over 5 hrs! Which version of Starcore do you reccomend I get?


Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 12, 2011, 06:40:09 PM
Get V3, that's what I did.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
Get V3, that's what I did.
But is it about my level?

Anything else on the bot? I could get it airtight, but I CBA, I wouldn't gain that much.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 12, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
But is it about my level?

It looks about right.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 12, 2011, 06:51:58 PM
Just lost in a 4-way battle, against Iceberg, Bushido and some other stock MW, on Metal Skull. Flipped myself over, destroyed bushido, counted out. -_-
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
New bot that I may use against smashysmashy for our challenge. WedgeCutter (TRB), so named because of the lowish iron spikes and that someone else has probably called their bot WedgeCutter, and so I stuck the TRB tag on the end:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22786Profile.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28578Insides.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9729Gameplay.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 14, 2011, 10:58:22 AM
Needs to be invertible
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 11:01:58 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 14, 2011, 11:03:42 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 11:06:41 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
No room or space, unfortunately.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 14, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
No room or space, unfortunately.
Then rebuild it
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
No room or space, unfortunately.
Then rebuild it
Anyway, the chassis is pretty tight anyway, I couldn't gain more than 5kgs, I suspect.
And mount what on snappers?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 14, 2011, 11:13:40 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
No room or space, unfortunately.
Then rebuild it
Anyway, the chassis is pretty tight anyway, I couldn't gain more than 5kgs, I suspect.
And mount what on snappers?
To be a good stock builder, you have to be prepared to rebuild over and over again, it's necessary

Mount the spinners on the snappers, like on this:
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
Needs to be invertible
How? I can't see how I could do that in the weight limit with this setup, without rebuilding the whole bot, which I cannot be bothered to do, honestly. I'll keep it in mind for my next bot, though. ;D

And the low irons will hopefully knock away/break off wedges before they get under the bot.
Mount them on a snapper
No room or space, unfortunately.
Then rebuild it
Anyway, the chassis is pretty tight anyway, I couldn't gain more than 5kgs, I suspect.
And mount what on snappers?
To be a good stock builder, you have to be prepared to rebuild over and over again, it's necessary

Mount the spinners on the snappers, like on this:
I will on my next bot, but I honestly can't be bothered rebuilding this one, I've been testing it on starcore, results so far, no losses as of yet:

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on July 14, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
Looks fairly decent.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 14, 2011, 11:31:42 AM
Looks quite old-school. Not bad. And that looks like Starcore V1 or something, V4 is MUCH more challenging.

Also, learn Snapper Loading. It will allow you to build some seriously compact HS bots.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 11:48:08 AM
Looks quite old-school. Not bad. And that looks like Starcore V1 or something, V4 is MUCH more challenging.

Also, learn Snapper Loading. It will allow you to build some seriously compact HS bots.
The only tutorial that I saw was Sage's, and I can't view that. My computer hates the plugin and I won't download.

And I have just bean all the MWs in SC v1, getting V3.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
Error: Security Breach
Security Restored; 1 secret picture(s) has been stolen...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 09:05:41 PM
Security has been breached: Corrupting Secret Files... 50%...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on July 14, 2011, 09:07:47 PM
OH NOES !
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 09:20:43 PM
>All security Systems shut down
>
>Downloading bot information
>
>Good:
>Highly Damaging
>Fast
>Low weapons for wedges
>
>Bad:
>Very unstable
>Low protection
>
>Downloading Picture...
>
>Download Complete.
>
>Downloading blueprints
>
>Download complete.
>
>Oh Noes! is here...

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on July 14, 2011, 10:07:22 PM
Whats with the weird-quality .PNGs?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
Haha, that was what I thought snapper loading was, sorry for the bump but it makes me laugh, making another generic MW HS soon, Wedgecutter's descendant.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on July 29, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
Haha, that was what I thought snapper loading was, sorry for the bump but it makes me laugh, making another generic MW HS soon, Wedgecutter's descendant.
If your using those blue Snapper 2s, then use the side-attachment point for holding the HPZs.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2011, 06:50:39 PM
Haha, that was what I thought snapper loading was, sorry for the bump but it makes me laugh, making another generic MW HS soon, Wedgecutter's descendant.
If your using those blue Snapper 2s, then use the side-attachment point for holding the HPZs.
I know how to snapper load now. ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 29, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
HedgeTrimmer!

More offensive than WedgeCutter, does more damage as well. Is invertible. The fast spinning speed of the maces act as a defense, as opposed to the snowplough. N-12s because the HPzs stick out the bottom and shinies don't touch the ground with the HPzs there.

Will redo the weapon system soon.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96107profile.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/28265Insides.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39669gameplay1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86129Gameplay 2.png)

 
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2011, 07:21:10 PM
You could try rotating the bottom HPZ so that it points downwards. That should get you enough weight for Shinies or Grannies if you really need them. I would try to at least have SOME kind of defense should anything get past the maces, either a ramplate or a couple of casters. You could stick the Black between the RAD's to get the space needed.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on August 01, 2011, 01:18:15 AM
I like how it has the small wedge with the slash through it on the skin... and then all the battleshots show it against other HS.  :rolleyes:
 
If you want to beat wedges you definitely need caster armor.  See my bot Error, or Popup Patrol in this month's BOTM for a good anti-wedge HS.
 
N12s look kinda cool though.  Kinda.  Probably not worth the 20 kgs over shinies.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 07, 2011, 08:13:23 PM
New bot (Well, when I say new, I mean new wheels and weapons, and some extra castors.) ; BurntDuvet, so called because I built this on my bed, and my laptop started to melt into a molten mess. It was designed to be effective against wedges, but still able to defeat some HSes. As always, constructive criticism is welcomed:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25149Profile.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71076Insides.png)

And against some random Starcore Popups:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27901Gameplay1.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42420gameplay2.png)

And it can still beat HSes. Again, randomly picked from Starcore:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40938gameplay 3.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9319gameplay4.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 07, 2011, 11:52:09 PM
The maces should really face the way they are spinning with the attach point you used. And you know you could shrink that chassis significantly and still have a lot of comfort room in there. Overall solid and it gets the job done.

And your computer melted?.....odd
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 07, 2011, 11:52:21 PM
Try it against Fury.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 04:51:12 AM
The maces should really face the way they are spinning with the attach point you used. And you know you could shrink that chassis significantly and still have a lot of comfort room in there. Overall solid and it gets the job done.

And your computer melted?.....odd
They face down to help with popups and such, hitting the top. I will do another version with the maces in the configuration.

And due to the chassis having to have walls of a certain length, I can't shrink it much. The back needs to be that wide to fit the snapper and drive motors in. It's easier to show with a diagram:
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    |
The glowing piece wouldn't work as the chassis design prevent short sides on a robot. Badly explain, sorry. And thanks for the constructive post.

Try it against Fury.
Will do soon.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 06:01:08 AM
DP:

Horizontal maces:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5323HorizMaces.png)

Vertical Maces (Original setup):
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75666VertMaces.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 08, 2011, 09:18:10 AM
An above average MW HS will never lose to an unarmored MW Popup. Those casters will give you enough defense already, but you should tuck them under the chassis more.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 09:38:29 AM
I will try to put the casters in a more defensive position. I didn't before because the Z-Tecs go through the bottom of the chassis, stopping me from placing the casters there. Will re-do the whole thing, then.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 10:03:07 AM
Update:
 :thumbup
-Most of underneath covered by caster protection

 :thumbdown
-Not invertible anymore

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22782Update1.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on August 08, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
What aboot the z-tek sticking out underneath it ?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 10:10:39 AM
What about it? I can't do anything about it without some fancy extender work, and when I tested it it didn't seem to get hit.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 08, 2011, 10:13:11 AM
...Just use the original 3 casters under the chassis and use the slipperbottoms?...3 would be enough anyway if you shrunk the chassis...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
But I can't shrink the chassis, and invertability isn't too important, the AI will still drive straight into the weapons anyway. I have kept the original design as well, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on August 08, 2011, 10:49:42 AM
uhhh it's definitely possible to shrink that chassis, just try.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 08, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
you cant shrink the chassis? Ok...I've just not "airtighted" many better formats of the same weapons. with armor or with casters.

you can still keep the boxy looking chassis and have be it smaller.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 11:48:22 AM
A bit smaller, how much would that gain? 1kg? I'm not looking for perfection here, just something half decent.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: That Robot is a Spy! on August 08, 2011, 11:53:05 AM
A bit smaller, how much would that gain? 1kg? I'm not looking for perfection here, just something half decent.

A kilo can make a huge difference.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 08, 2011, 11:58:25 AM
It's at 395.? ATM, getting 1kg won't give me anything, unfortunately.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 09, 2011, 02:57:58 AM
It's at 395.? ATM, getting 1kg won't give me anything, unfortunately.
2 to 3 kg would give you enough for another castor
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 09, 2011, 05:10:18 AM
But would I gain that by rebuilding it? I will try when I'm bored, which will probably be within the hour.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 09, 2011, 05:14:26 AM
But would I gain that by rebuilding it?
A better bot
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 09, 2011, 05:23:34 AM
Not if I only gain 1 kg, I can't do anything with it. In fact, a larger chassis has more HP, so if I can't gain enough for another castor, then it actually makes the bot worse.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 09, 2011, 05:29:14 AM
Not if I only gain 1 kg, I can't do anything with it. In fact, a larger chassis has more HP, so if I can't gain enough for another castor, then it actually makes the bot worse.
Fair point, but there is definitely room for improvement, it is far from the best MW HS around
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on August 09, 2011, 05:52:03 AM
Not if I only gain 1 kg, I can't do anything with it. In fact, a larger chassis has more HP, so if I can't gain enough for another castor, then it actually makes the bot worse.
Fair point, but there is definitely room for improvement, it is far from the best MW HS around

Not everyone can be the best, Vertigo. And how much experience have the best had compared to TRB?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on August 09, 2011, 05:54:07 AM
Not if I only gain 1 kg, I can't do anything with it. In fact, a larger chassis has more HP, so if I can't gain enough for another castor, then it actually makes the bot worse.
Fair point, but there is definitely room for improvement, it is far from the best MW HS around

Not everyone can be the best, Vertigo. And how much experience have the best had compared to TRB?
Everyone can be, or at least very close, given enough effort.
Making excuses to not even try like you seem to be doing is pathetic though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 09, 2011, 05:56:59 AM
Not if I only gain 1 kg, I can't do anything with it. In fact, a larger chassis has more HP, so if I can't gain enough for another castor, then it actually makes the bot worse.
Fair point, but there is definitely room for improvement, it is far from the best MW HS around
Not everyone can be the best, Vertigo. And how much experience have the best had compared to TRB?
Yes they can, and everyone should aim for it, TRB is building a HS, he should build it to the best he can, not build it so it's alright and then give up on it
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 09, 2011, 06:00:10 AM
Or I could build it to the best of my ability? Not everyone can be the best, that's why the best are the best, but everyone can improve, which is why I opened a showcase.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 01:33:49 AM
Onto my next bot, my first (Decent) popup in Stock; Tungsten! (I have a periodic table poster next to me, I just took the first thing I saw and named the bot after it)

Horrid paint job!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53083Profile.png)

Yes, I know I used angle extenders, but otherwise the razors would stick out too far. I believe that it is the better setup on this robot, especially as they're usually hidden inside the chassis. If you think I should use another method, do tell me, but PLEASE tell me why is is better than the setup I have now, just telling me to remove them without giving good reason isn't helping.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53838Insides1.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55313gameplay1.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86266Gameplay2.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69831Gameplay3.png)

Can score OHKOs if timed correctly.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on August 11, 2011, 01:36:00 AM
Unless you're using that middle DDT for wedge flippy-ness, then remove.
Other than that it's fairly good.
(needs armour tho)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 01:37:36 AM
DDTs are the best wedges, right? And popups rely on their wedges.

And I don't really have weight for armour, even if I did, I don't have the space to attach a baseplate anchor. What should I do?  :confused:
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on August 11, 2011, 01:40:50 AM
Snapper's get the job done fairly well from what I've seen...(and built) Unless you're going to go for the flipping/pop-up thing, I don't think a DDT is necessary.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 01:41:45 AM
IDK, I think I'll need a second opinion before I do anything.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 11, 2011, 03:43:19 AM
How many supervolts?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 03:43:54 AM
2, stacked. =D
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 11, 2011, 03:44:51 AM
attach a sideways 20 cm extender instead of a angle connector
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 03:46:25 AM
OK, will do.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 11, 2011, 03:47:15 AM
Okay, as for what you should aim for now:

Rubbers
2 Supervolts
DSA
8 razors, 4 on each ddt
DDT wedge
Small wedge component
Two extenders to attatch the small wedge in the middle of the bot (you will need this with the chassis you will have to make)

AKA, the Psyc popup
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2011, 04:12:30 AM
Okay, as for what you should aim for now:

Rubbers
2 Supervolts
DSA
8 razors, 4 on each ddt
DDT wedge
Small wedge component
Two extenders to attatch the small wedge in the middle of the bot (you will need this with the chassis you will have to make)

AKA, the Psyc popup
Done all except the DDT wedge, changed to snapper 2, the wedge is improved! It's now 391 kgs
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 11, 2011, 10:53:20 AM
Good advice 090901 and vert...it truly is the "Pysc popup" now.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on August 11, 2011, 05:36:52 PM
I know my opinion isn't worth much (if anything) but great job TRB! Better than anything I could ever do.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 11, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
I know my opinion isn't worth much (if anything) but great job TRB! Better than anything I could ever do.
Not necessarily, stick at it, we all lost to EMERGENCY at some point  ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 11, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
maybe with the extra weight make the chassis wedge a little less steep?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on August 11, 2011, 10:56:43 PM
I know my opinion isn't worth much (if anything) but great job TRB! Better than anything I could ever do.
Not necessarily, stick at it, we all lost to EMERGENCY at some point  ;)
EMERGENCY is the boss of the tutorial level.
After we defeated him, everyone pretty much went there own way.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 04:33:24 AM
Emergency is a pain. You either rip his flippers off and rip him apart, or you have a better wedge than him.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
*Newb question incoming!*

I'm trying to get my drive to look a little like this;

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82398Parabolic Trajectory 2.png)

But I'm not sure how. Do I need to snapper load/ my attempt so far (a shot in the dark), to stack with axle loading;

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68824Axleloadfail1.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on August 12, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
Badger, the drive in the example was probably put there via Snappers.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 10:50:04 AM
OK.

Any way without snappers?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on August 12, 2011, 10:53:54 AM
OK.

Any way without snappers?
Off the top of my head, bot-editing software.
That, or Hax mode.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 12, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
OK.

Any way without snappers?
servo's or axle mounts :P
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 11:45:16 AM
Ah yes, AXLE mounts! =D

Wait, how do you axle load with axle mounts?

And what about bursting motors? I remember somewhere hearing about a motor being bursted, or boosted or something.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 12, 2011, 12:30:42 PM
axle mounts are the worst way though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 12:36:08 PM
axle mounts are the worst way though.

But the smallest and lightest, thus must efficient
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on August 12, 2011, 12:38:34 PM
axle mounts are the worst way though.

But the smallest and lightest, thus must efficient
Don't they wobble, though?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scorpion on August 12, 2011, 12:40:26 PM
axle mounts are the worst way though.

But the smallest and lightest, thus must efficient
Nope, definately not for drive, they're far too unstable.

Ah yes, AXLE mounts! =D

Wait, how do you axle load with axle mounts?

And what about bursting motors? I remember somewhere hearing about a motor being bursted, or boosted or something.
You'd snapper load the axles atachment point off.

And I believe you'll be refering to the fact that when a motor is on a burst motor, it spins faster
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
Thanks. =D
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on August 12, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
Yep, snapper loading, or possibly EFFE

And I don't like using axle mounts, personally
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 12, 2011, 07:10:46 PM
There's no way you can do that any other way than use snappers...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2011, 09:29:06 PM
Just been tesing it out, things have gone badly.

I did the setup in a HW popup, and tested it. With shinies it didn't drive correctly, so I had to use grannies. The wheelbase is so short it is difficult to drive, and I could only get 12 razors on, but it is about 100kgs underweight, and the wedges are crap.

*sadface*
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
A MW IRl rammer, next. Underweight, I know, but I ca't spend the weight on anything else. Aluminium. I was thinking of removing an axe to get Titanium.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43553Profile.png)

Smallest chassis I could get! (The z-teks won't fit any closer in, and the chassis is only just tall enough for them to fit in)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8530Insides.png)

Why do the ramplates on EMERGENCY do damage? Annoying.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57276Gameplay1.png)

I suspect that t will fare better when AI'd, I suck at driving.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on August 17, 2011, 08:53:40 PM
Those middle axes intersect a little bit.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2011, 09:07:02 PM
But that could be achieved IRL,by cutting slots out of one of the axes, so the other can fit. ;)

And I just AI'd it, work like a charm. Works better as a pusher than a rammer.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on August 17, 2011, 09:08:35 PM
too many weapons to be considered IRL imo.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2011, 09:10:30 PM
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100530085342/robotwars/images/1/16/Reali-t.JPG) (http://robotwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=REALI-T&image=Reali-t-JPG)

The whole robot is covered in Razor wire. ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on August 17, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
The whole robot is covered in Razor wire. ;)
Except razor wire is legit, as it literally wraps around the whole robot, without interesting anything.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 21, 2011, 05:53:17 PM
Another IRL design, If i enter RW virtual, I might enter this;

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4433Profile.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14315Insides.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25376Gameplay.png)

Could anybody give me a link to other competitor's bots? I can't find any. :S
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2011, 05:32:24 AM
Nothing? :(
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Somebody on September 23, 2011, 10:03:24 AM
Looks a bit more IRL to me. Good job
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on September 23, 2011, 10:04:05 AM
I like the bot, but you can't have my. Yet. Im on the bus home from school. :)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2011, 10:09:05 AM
Anything I could improve?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: J on September 23, 2011, 10:13:40 AM
Anything I could improve?
Why the angle connectors? O,o
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on September 23, 2011, 10:22:19 AM
I don't think he was able to raise the BA's, because the Redbirds would get in the way. If he did use Extenders, he'd save at most 4kg, which I think might give him enough weight for HPZ drive, if he did a bit of chassis reshuffling.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
To get the frame at the correct angle. They're well protected, so I thought it'd be OK.


I don't think he was able to raise the BA's, because the Redbirds would get in the way. If he did use Extenders, he'd save at most 4kg, which I think might give him enough weight for HPZ drive, if he did a bit of chassis reshuffling.


I'll try that.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 07, 2012, 02:35:54 PM
Yay! Back from the dead!

My attempt at a 1-wheeled LW HS. 9 razors, 2 HPzs, and 1 RAD+Shiny, all powered by 1 nifty. Underpowered FTW! (I haven't downloaded any mods or AI packs on my new PC so i had to setting with Berserker.)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42781Profile1.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88871Insides1.png)

-(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84278Battle1.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on January 07, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
stack the cb into the battery
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on January 07, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
2 HPZ screws up the driving I bet. And no invertibility kills it, along with the low-ish weapon weight. It's just weird...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on January 07, 2012, 02:44:27 PM
Use a SnapperII setup, or if not mount the RAD the normal way and lower the chassis. Should go with 90 degree anchor pointing out and use a T connector or something. And don't have the HP Z-teks upside down.

S_M should probably know if one RAD is strong enough drive or not.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 07, 2012, 02:47:29 PM
2 HPZ screws up the driving I bet. And no invertibility kills it, along with the low-ish weapon weight. It's just weird...

D=

Use a SnapperII setup, or if not mount the RAD the normal way and lower the chassis. Should go with 90 degree anchor pointing out and use a T connector or something. And don't have the HP Z-teks upside down.

S_M should probably know if one RAD is strong enough drive or not.
But It's around 14kgs, right? and that doesn't include extenders. This setup, with extenders, is 10ks, IIRC.

I would mount it differently, but then I takes up more space. should I still change it?

Yeah, i'll change the z-tecs now.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on January 07, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
I know a Snapper boosted RAD is fine, no idea about a plain RAD for drive. 2xHPZ IS overkill though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on January 07, 2012, 02:57:19 PM
But It's around 14kgs, right? and that doesn't include extenders. This setup, with extenders, is 10ks, IIRC.
Yeah but you save chassis weight by not having to make space for the RAD and get both faster and more protected motors (as long as you find a good setup).
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on January 07, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
At least it's original, and pretty decent.

but fighting berserker ? srsly ? berserker is just plain AWFUL.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Somebody on January 07, 2012, 07:32:03 PM
But still better than most of the stock LWs IIRC
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2012, 12:27:03 AM
At least it's original, and pretty decent.

but fighting berserker ? srsly ? berserker is just plain AWFUL.
Yeah, but I have no AI packs. =P


Will download SC today.


Edit:


SC 3.0 downloading, updated bot:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14208Insides2.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on January 08, 2012, 06:16:01 AM
You could lose the pointless red extender, mount the drive directly to the Snapper, and get a second caster on it. I'd try and get the motors a bit more protected by the chassis, though, they looks quite suspect to me. Good build, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2012, 08:23:09 AM
I'll go do that.

I was just wondering what happened to T.F. when I fought it, it looks like I hit an extender that was holding the weapons and drive on... odd...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNVcHakVU0&feature=youtu.be# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNVcHakVU0&feature=youtu.be#) 
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gazea2 on January 08, 2012, 08:48:28 AM
It looks like you hit the T-connector that holds the weapons.
Nice bot. I'm sure this has probably already been said but you could snapper load the RAD directly onto the snapper's axle.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
OK, Update:

- Reverted to earlier weapon setup to use up more weight
- RAD is directly connected to Snapper
- Will put a :trollface on it soon
-Move the ZTeks to be better protected as well as have better weight distribution

Pics:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47028Insides3.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57927Battle2.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on January 08, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
Much, much better! Keep it up. :P
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on January 08, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
Excellent build. Six irons might net you the weight for a caster, for some way of defense, but that's a very, very nice build. Great work.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2012, 09:24:03 AM
Thanks. =D

Well, I couldn't let Smashy get too far ahead, now could I? Anyway, when you're making a decal, do you save the .tga file as 16bits/pixel, 24bits/pixel or 32bits/pixel? I tried 16-bit and it doesn't seem to work. does it even work as a .tga? Do i need to use .bmp instead?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2012, 01:43:41 AM
Nobody? Oh, OK then...

I might work on a MW version of this, IDK...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on January 09, 2012, 02:02:22 AM
Me get ahead? You have to be kidding, I ditched Stock ages ago.=D

But since you are back, I see myself getting back into Stock and our challenges starting again. What do you say? :gawe:

No idea on the decals, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2012, 02:46:32 AM
Yeah. I'll have to get back to DSL at some point as well.

And I mean in overall skill, not just stock. You've done a lot of DSL lately, I believe.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: ty4er on January 09, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
well smashy might've had a little help  :p
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: smashysmashy on January 09, 2012, 11:05:45 AM
well smashy might've had a little help  :p
It's kind of a giveaway when it says you're my DSL mentor on my wiki page :gawe:
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: madman3 on January 09, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
Huh, people are getting building advisers. If anybody needs help or advice, imma here.
I NEED MINIONS, IDIOTIC MORTALS
But as everyone has been saying, the bot's pretty good. It's nice and concise, and quite well armed. Not the most original (this IS stock LW), but still good.

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Philippa on January 09, 2012, 12:29:19 PM
I NEED MINIONS, IDIOTIC MORTALS
Ok.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2012, 01:22:13 PM
Thanks. =D

Well, I couldn't let Smashy get too far ahead, now could I? Anyway, when you're making a decal, do you save the .tga file as 16bits/pixel, 24bits/pixel or 32bits/pixel? I tried 16-bit and it doesn't seem to work. does it even work as a .tga? Do i need to use .bmp instead?


I love the discussions, chaps, but can I get a tad of help before we continue with our ramblings?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on January 09, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
Thanks. =D

Well, I couldn't let Smashy get too far ahead, now could I? Anyway, when you're making a decal, do you save the .tga file as 16bits/pixel, 24bits/pixel or 32bits/pixel? I tried 16-bit and it doesn't seem to work. does it even work as a .tga? Do i need to use .bmp instead?
iirc it's 24-bit and non-rle compressed


24-bit .bmp's work too but most people use .tga's
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: martymidget on January 09, 2012, 02:45:43 PM
well smashy might've had a little help  :p
It's kind of a giveaway when it says you're my DSL mentor on my wiki page :gawe:

My minion's now mentoring? He's growing up :')

I use .bmps because I could never get .tgas to work xD
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Reier on January 10, 2012, 10:44:59 AM
HRRK ONE WHEEL BOTS



S_MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YOU MONSTER
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on January 10, 2012, 10:57:17 AM
HRRK ONE WHEEL BOTS



S_MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YOU MONSTER
:trollface No problem.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Reier on January 10, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/77553/1406511-875694_nerd_rage_super_super.jpg)

TRB SUFFER NOT THE FOOLISHNESS THAT ARE ONE-WHEELED BOTS
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2012, 01:18:02 PM
As I am in Spain with a laptop that only has RA2 and Audiosurf installed, I have an abunadnce of time for RA2. After I finish this bot, will probably do a MW HS or IRL bot.

Moving on.


Yay for more generic, crappy bots!

AcroBOTics.

Good:
Very Wedgey. Only out-wedged by Mutiny 2 (Out of the MW bots I've tested in starcore v3.)
Often does multiple frontflips after a hit, which looks nice
Pretty airtight
Stacked blacks (Took me ages, my RA2 hates stacking.)
DSA
Wedge doubles as very reliable srimech.

Bad:
Acrobatics after hit (Lands upside down half the time)
Only 6 razors
Extenders often get hit. (Only really get damaged enough to break in career tournaments.)
Terrible paintjob
Atrocious pun.

Largest hit so far: 1.7k

Who should I test against in SCv3?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2012, 01:33:01 PM
Get INF AI if you're easily beating all of Starcore. Much harder opponents.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
I wouldn't say easily, I lost my 1st match to Mutiny and quite a few to Intruder Alert. And I still cant beat Praetorian.

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 06, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
well them try pys or scv4
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 06, 2012, 02:30:27 PM
This took me so many tries...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56169YUSSSS.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2012, 02:13:52 PM
Updates:

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on July 07, 2012, 02:16:14 PM
Nice bot. :)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
Thinking about it, would I be able to use the Rupt glitch on AcroBOTics?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gazea2 on July 07, 2012, 02:25:32 PM
From experience, the rupt glitch doesn't really work on popups. Doesn't mean you can't try it, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 07, 2012, 02:27:40 PM
I suppose I'll make a copy and try. Should I bother posting the Hammer?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on July 07, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
Thinking about it, would I be able to use the Rupt glitch on AcroBOTics?
I don't think it would work that well, as Gazea said.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 07, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
Should I bother posting the Hammer?

Go ahead
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 08, 2012, 12:05:58 PM
Firstly, the crappy hammer:


Also, can anyone tell me why this drive setup means that the bot can barely drive?

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: logannaruto on July 08, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
Cause it doesn't have any batteries?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 08, 2012, 12:10:34 PM
I removed them for a better look at the problem. It is functional, and has all the parts it needs (drive-wise), but it just can't drive straight.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 08, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22439Drive.png)
um well maybe you should get a cleaner setup first before you try anything, seriously its messy as heck
if it doesnt drives stright its probably weight imbalance when you put on the wheels

and theres also a good maybe 10kg worth of wasted space in there

and yes, it does need 2 stacked blacks atleast
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 08, 2012, 12:17:35 PM
The reason the popup cannot drive is because the HPZ's are angled with the points of the motors facing up and down, thus lifting the small rubber wheels off the ground. If you rotate the motors by 90 degrees, that will make it drive properly. You could also remove the 20cm between the SnapperII and T connector to save weight, and the SnapperII should ideally be two clicks up to give the best ground clearance.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: ty4er on July 08, 2012, 12:36:49 PM
hammer doesn't look too bad to me, you'd want a longer wedge though

and the popup can't drive because of the collision mesh of the ztek
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on July 08, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
No need for 3 ddts on the hammer. Use either 2 green snappers or one ddt for the weapons, and try to get a v-shaped or u-shaped front so it can trap stuff. Having good wedges aren't that big of a deal for hammers since they're only good at taking out bots such as hses and rammers so you probably want to drop down to green or blue snapper wedges.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 08, 2012, 05:27:12 PM
I'll be dropping the hammer to work on the popup.

@NFX

Derp. I'll change it when I have time.

Also, I can't use MovePixel effectively. Is there any tips/tricks to using it? Because ATM, I stack faster by hand, and it takes about 20-30 mins to stack blacks, and I've just given up on stacking a nifty into a cb.

(N.B. I already know about zooming in, playing on the highest resloution ect.)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 08, 2012, 05:42:25 PM
and it takes about 20-30 mins to stack blacks-
just keep stacking them eventually it'll take 15 minutes, 12, 10, 5, and then you will be able to just slap down two blacks at some point
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 09, 2012, 11:35:24 AM
It's not a matter of practice. For example, just now I literally stack 2 blacks in less than 10 seconds, but I've been trying for about 15 mins on the next pair. It's pretty frustrating.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 09, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
It's not a matter of practice. For example, just now I literally stack 2 blacks in less than 10 seconds, but I've been trying for about 15 mins on the next pair. It's pretty frustrating.
make sure you're zoomed all the way via the chassis tab, and make sure the view is a birds eye view and EXACTLY looking over the chassis (straight wall of the chassis should be stright lines, not bent to the right or left), switch to components, and place the batt, if it doesnt stack in about a minute of wiggling the mouse via autohotkey over it just go back to chassis rotate the view 90 degrees and repeat
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 10, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
How can I attach defence to this thing? I have space for a baseplate anchor infront of the DDTs and 100kgs to spare.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60667defencehelp.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 10, 2012, 01:36:39 PM
Either casters or ramplates.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on July 10, 2012, 01:40:05 PM
-r4 ears
-ba + ramplate
-extend the chassis slightly (if needed) and put on caster armor
theres alot of options

and i think the H shaped chassis might be hurting more than helping
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 10, 2012, 01:48:02 PM
Reduce the length of the blades on the wedged by about 40cm or so. Opponents aren't going to hit them too far up, so there's no need for protection there. That'll net you 108kg, so 54kg for each side. A BA+Ramplate leaves 30kg, which I'm not too sure what you could use for. Maybe some R4 Ears, or a small Parabolic Trajectory style wamming rack.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 10, 2012, 02:39:37 PM
I'll have to re-do the chassis for R4 ears.

Which means spending > 1 hour stacking blacks.

FML.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2012, 10:34:13 AM
OK, AW 1-wheel HS. As usual, any advice would be greatly appreciated.


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36530AWHS.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50000AWHS2.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92552AWHS3.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on August 20, 2012, 10:38:02 AM
OK, AW 1-wheel HS. As usual, any advice would be greatly appreciated.


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36530AWHS.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/50000AWHS2.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92552AWHS3.png)
ummm.... because you have the same weapon count as the BW in Logic Probe's team, try beating it(if you can, it's an awesome AW).
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
I can't see a team called 'Logic probe' in Starcore, which pack is it in?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on August 20, 2012, 10:42:56 AM
I can't see a team called 'Logic probe' in Starcore, which pack is it in?
no, i meant the team which logic probe is in(spin doctors).
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2012, 10:44:03 AM
Oh, k. I'll test it now.

Edit:

Well, I did get a flukey win, but there's no real way I can beat it because it has a z-tek, I have a RAD.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44156AWHS4.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 21, 2012, 06:53:19 AM
Nothing else to improve? D=
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gazea2 on August 21, 2012, 07:23:51 AM
You aren't going to get many comments because it's an AW. Not many people build AWs so there's no real advice they can give.
That being said, the bot looks good (even if it does have 1WD). 2 pinks and DSA? You could also look at SM and NFX's AWs for some ideas on what you could do with it.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 21, 2012, 08:12:36 AM
Yep, 2 pinks and DSA.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 21, 2012, 09:36:26 AM
You could also look at SM and NFX's AWs for some ideas on what you could do with it.
I made an AW?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gazea2 on August 21, 2012, 09:52:46 AM
You could also look at SM and NFX's AWs for some ideas on what you could do with it.
I made an AW?

Oops, I meant your 1WD bots...
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 25, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
1 wheel = way forwards

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15708proof.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95622Bear Grylls.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on August 25, 2012, 07:27:50 AM
1 wheel = way forwards

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15708proof.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95622Bear Grylls.png)
Umm.......... i think you can just use  6 razors to balance the entire thing out.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on August 25, 2012, 07:33:55 AM
that uneven spinner looks a bit faily imho

also 1wd = ghey
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on August 25, 2012, 07:34:55 AM
You could mount the RAD with the long side against the battery to reduce chassis size. That might free up some weight, and if you dropped to plastic, or lightened up your extender work, you might be able to get a third razor/mace on there instead of an iron.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 25, 2012, 07:42:36 AM
1 wheel = way forwards

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15708proof.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95622Bear%20Grylls.png)
Umm.......... i think you can just use  6 razors to balance the entire thing out.
Why didn't I think of that? -_- It worked surprisingly well, actually, but nevertheless:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3636Bear Grylls2.png)

You could mount the RAD with the long side against the battery to reduce chassis size. That might free up some weight, and if you dropped to plastic, or lightened up your extender work, you might be able to get a third razor/mace on there instead of an iron.
Will do.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on August 25, 2012, 07:43:50 AM
Also make sure the screenshots are lined up next time. =P Looks a litle bit bodged together right now. Just a small point.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 25, 2012, 07:55:17 AM
In the 1st one? Yeah, not sure why that happened. I'll use the pause button next time.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 01, 2012, 10:21:42 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96246Starlight.png) (https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Exchange/LW/TheRoyalBadger_Starlight.bot)

Can anyone AI this for me? I tried and failed. :( You can DL the bot by clicking the pic.
 
Note: Somehow it drives perfectly. RA2 logic. Beats Tempus Fugit 75% of the time. (1 loss in the 4 battles I did.)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on September 01, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
Surprising that it did well against TF...

You have 4 kg for some more extender work, maybe find a way to get the HPZs behind the chassis.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on September 01, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
yeah, some sacrificial extenders would be good

turning looks pretty slow aswell
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on September 01, 2012, 01:00:10 PM
It looks very similar to a bot I built quite recently. I think I'd pointed the SnapperII the other way, which explains how I was able to get DSA and an extra razor on the front. I would definitely try to get DSA on it, and protect the motors somehow. Even having them inside the chassis would be alright.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on September 01, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
Beats Tempus Fugit 75% of the time. (1 loss in the 4 battles I did.)
V4 or V3?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Skiitzzox220 on September 02, 2012, 12:13:05 PM
I'm almost certain one of the wheels is higher than the other on that bot.. I might just be going crazy though
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: NFX on September 02, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
I'm almost certain one of the wheels is higher than the other on that bot.. I might just be going crazy though

You're correct. But it still works perfectly fine, same as the similar bot I built like this one.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Skiitzzox220 on September 03, 2012, 06:36:53 AM
I'm almost certain one of the wheels is higher than the other on that bot.. I might just be going crazy though

You're correct. But it still works perfectly fine, same as the similar bot I built like this one.
Ah right, I was wondering if the asymmetrical wheel setup would've hindered the bot in any way but RA2 physics to the rescue I guess
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2012, 03:13:22 PM
Planning to enter a 2nd tourney (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,12001.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,12001.0.html)) with a 2nd cheap ass bot.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93116sns.png)

Video of the spinning speed (Won't be uploaded by the time this is posted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OekNc6avRLU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OekNc6avRLU#)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 29, 2012, 03:39:33 PM
so its basically squ}{d and kpinga but with more empty space and weight wasted on heavier wheels.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
Yup. Well, I haven't seen squ}{d but I based it on kpinga.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 29, 2012, 03:47:23 PM
BEAR CLAWS AND MACES
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
I would, but the only way to get them on (That I can see) is via eFFe, and I can't spin the extenders in the botlab.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on October 29, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
good luck turning that into a pop up
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 29, 2012, 05:23:37 PM
I'm not planning on turning it into anything, other than updating it to improve it. ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2012, 04:48:51 AM
clonecloneclone
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: martymidget on October 30, 2012, 07:07:31 AM
It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 123savethewhales on October 30, 2012, 07:27:13 AM
It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
I can always enter my FSnS to kill his.

Razors stand no chance against bearclaws in a de-weapon fight, and the way it is set up is just asking for the extenders to break.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 30, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
Yup. ;)

The tourney is done by AI, so the only fun that I can get out of it is by doing moderately well. What's the fun in building a *cool* bot if it's only going to get torn to pieces?

It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
I can always enter my FSnS to kill his.

Razors stand no chance against bearclaws in a de-weapon fight, and the way it is set up is just asking for the extenders to break.
Any tips on how to improve the extender setup?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on October 30, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
The tourney is done by AI, so the only fun that I can get out of it is by doing moderately well. What's the fun in building a *cool* bot if it's only going to get torn to pieces?

might as well enter a crawler then.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: ty4er on October 30, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
you are just entering a sh**tier version of someone else's bot


again

the fun is building/showing off a cool, perhaps different bot type and trying to win. not just entering another bot type that everyone else enters, let alone someone else's bot.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 30, 2012, 02:05:31 PM
It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
Yup. ;)

The tourney is done by AI, so the only fun that I can get out of it is by doing moderately well. What's the fun in building a *cool* bot if it's only going to get torn to pieces?

you can make a cool bot and do moderately well.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Who the heck said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: madman3 on October 30, 2012, 03:15:59 PM
Who the heck said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.
The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.
Yup. ;)

The tourney is done by AI, so the only fun that I can get out of it is by doing moderately well. What's the fun in building a *cool* bot if it's only going to get torn to pieces?

you can make a cool bot and do moderately well.
But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 30, 2012, 03:18:48 PM
Best not to enter it in a tourney then. What can I do to improve it?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 30, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
hey trb just a tip: maybe you should try to make use of the interchangeable weaponry rule and make a chassis that you can easily turn from one type of bot to another, so you can play to your opponents disadvantages, becos if you get pitted up against a juggernaut hs with that thing you are s.c.r.e.w.e.d. and that chassis can really be made into much else

this will all be over when i find a way to counter flail SNS
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: martymidget on October 30, 2012, 03:37:41 PM
Who the heck said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.
The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

Coming from the guy who has single handedly made me bored of my own tourney....
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: madman3 on October 30, 2012, 04:46:02 PM
Who the heck said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.
The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

Coming from the guy who has single handedly made me bored of my own tourney....
Once again, only further discrediting my effort, in this case 3 hours of building and 2 of testing. I'm not going to deliberately make my bots worse just so everyone else has a better chance. If that makes my bot boring, deal with it.

Also, sheesh bro, I asked you to up the spin speed of the weapon :P

@TRB: the bot is looks okay but as Nary says, you should at least improve the bot your cloning.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 30, 2012, 05:05:25 PM

But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.
By cool I'm talking about hybrids, so I don't see how that would cut down on variation.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: madman3 on October 30, 2012, 05:53:12 PM

But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.
By cool I'm talking about hybrids, so I don't see how that would cut down on variation.
Ah, fair enough. Still most Hybrids are weaker than standard bot types and are already confined to fairly accepted setups.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Last post: 31-10-2012

Oh dear.

Anyways I bring you this:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2421436HS.png)

I tried it against AC and it won pretty handily, idk why. Had like 1/4 of its maces left (and the razor!). I swear I saw a 36HS with a ramplate on it aaaaaaages ago, is that possible? Does anyone do stock tournaments anymore?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: ecolusian on November 24, 2015, 02:16:23 PM
this is why i dont do stock, it looks so complicated yet so cool at the same time!
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2015, 02:18:20 PM
this is why i dont do stock, it looks so complicated yet so cool at the same time!
It looks more complicated than it is because everything is intersecting each other, it would actually be pretty easy to understand with a diagram. Still, it's annoying to build, stacking everything took hours by itself, thank god I have some good music to listen to and 2 monitors.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on November 24, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
Yep, very simple setup. Looks pretty good though. I would raise the snappers by 2 clicks so all the motors are flush with the chassis, and also rotate the drive motors so the flat side is on the ground.

Ramplates on 36HS are doable, but require a 1 snapper setup, or using only 1 extender per weapon arm (usually both), or something like NFX did where he used 3 nifties instead of 2 blacks. Personally I've never had the patience for a triple nifty + CB stack.
Try a few more times against AC, sometimes HS fights are lucky.

As far as stock tournaments, theres one going on that I know of. Dunno about any coming up. Keep building though! Keep stock alive!
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2015, 06:05:45 PM
I actually was originally gonna do a single snapper setup but I got cockblocked by the rule of 7. How would you go about getting 36 weapons onto a single snapper setup?

I'll have to try the triple nifty + cb stack when I'm feeling particularly masochistic.

Edit nvm pretty sure I thought of a way to do it,  remind me tomorrow
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on November 24, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
A single snapper setup usually means all 3 weapons on a single extender, or slight asymmetry with 3 weapons on 2 extenders. It's the general tradeoff given the constraints.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on November 24, 2015, 06:15:32 PM
Last post: 31-10-2012
Who knew there was 31 months?  :dumb)

Anyway, about the bot. Seems like a regular 36hs. More experienced builders already gave advice so I won't be giving any.
Also, yay, stock!
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 24, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Last post: 31-10-2012
Who knew there was 31 months?  :dumb)

Anyway, about the bot. Seems like a regular 36hs. More experienced builders already gave advice so I won't be giving any.
Also, yay, stock!
I never saw the logic in MM/DD/YY

Anyways, wouldn't this setup work?

Code: [Select]
WW
 EEW
 SW
MEEM
With W being a weapon motor, E being extender, M being a drive motor and S being a snapper? Gets around RO7 and uses all 3 free APs on 2 attached extenders. Weapon motors are uneven but oh well.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on November 24, 2015, 06:40:13 PM
I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate? ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 25, 2015, 01:32:28 AM
I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate? ;)
I'll work that out later :P

I can't think of another way to get 6 ztecs onto 1 snapper.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on November 25, 2015, 01:34:45 AM
I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate? ;)
I'll work that out later :P

I can't think of another way to get 6 ztecs onto 1 snapper.

If I can do 7
you can do 6. Hint: the drive motors don't need to worry about the rule of 7
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 25, 2015, 03:12:46 PM
Managed to get it all on 1 snapper

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56340fail.png)

Few problems:
The bot shakes vertically like it has parkinsons, even when idle. It's actually so weird.
I messed up the ramplate extender work so I just removed it to make it cleaner
Forgot to raise the snapper 2 ticks

I'll remake it tomorrow or friday and get it all right.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on February 07, 2016, 07:38:46 AM
Managed to get it all on 1 snapper

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56340fail.png)

Few problems:
The bot shakes vertically like it has parkinsons, even when idle. It's actually so weird.
I messed up the ramplate extender work so I just removed it to make it cleaner
Forgot to raise the snapper 2 ticks

I'll remake it tomorrow or friday and get it all right.
What's the extender setup ? It looks really sloppy.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on February 07, 2016, 07:55:00 AM
Managed to get it all on 1 snapper

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56340fail.png)

Few problems:
The bot shakes vertically like it has parkinsons, even when idle. It's actually so weird.
I messed up the ramplate extender work so I just removed it to make it cleaner
Forgot to raise the snapper 2 ticks

I'll remake it tomorrow or friday and get it all right.
What's the extender setup ? It looks really sloppy.
It's pretty bad. I made this ages ago, but IIRC this was the setup:

(http://puu.sh/mZ7Vd.png)

Where S is the blue snapper, 2 red hyphens are an attachment point on an extender (therefore 4 red hyphens are 1 extender), D is a drive motor and W is a weapon motor.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on June 03, 2016, 03:59:59 PM
alright I haven't played stock in forever and I suck. How can I improve this thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/I2rl1Qy.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/brUaQz0.png)

Beats all the SCv4 LWs I tested. DSA.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on June 04, 2016, 06:40:28 AM
that n00b paintjob
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2016, 06:58:03 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58658auckfgod1.png)

Hey Bajur what's with that name?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76097auckfgod2.png)

After spending so much time stacking 2 blacks in a VERY small space, then building the entire bloody thing off 1 snapper multiple times, this got me so salty. In battle I don't think that's the main problem though. It easily beat RedAce's ToughLove2 and my 36(iron)HS. Problem is it can't move with shinies for some reason. Which sucks. Much downgrade 1 tribar from bear claws to razors and see if that gets me grannies. Maybes not, IDK.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 15, 2016, 07:01:53 AM
eeeh, i'm not convinced aesthetics-wise. mostly due to 2 different extenders and weapon choice, also it's asymetrical.

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2016, 07:05:01 AM
eeeh, i'm not convinced aesthetics-wise. mostly due to 2 different extenders and weapon choice, also it's asymetrical.

The different colour extenders was to make it easier when building what tribars were to hold which weapons. I'll BFE the red back to back, BRB
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on July 15, 2016, 08:34:43 AM
to help with mobility, try attaching the lowest weapon extender to the side ap of the extender directly attached to the tribar, like this
(http://i.imgur.com/GQvPMLx.png)

also that agod isnt anything to worry about. be glad it isnt something like this
(http://i.imgur.com/Z1TRrDm.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 15, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
to help with mobility, try attaching the lowest weapon extender to the side ap of the extender directly attached to the tribar, like this
(http://i.imgur.com/GQvPMLx.png)

also that agod isnt anything to worry about. be glad it isnt something like this
(http://i.imgur.com/Z1TRrDm.png)
Heyy, that's pretty smart. brb.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 18, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
razors on hs  :dead:
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 10, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
Entries for a couple stock tournaments

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40107screenshot_30.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5798screenshot_31.png)

Didn't want to enter my usual stock generic crap, so I tried to be a little different. The popup has 5 razors on 2 snapper 2s, which are mounter on a blue snapper along with the drive. Runs on a single black. Snapper 2 wedges.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Hi5er on August 11, 2016, 05:40:14 AM
Nicely built, but I'd still say they're pretty generic looking, well, the MW Popup is anyway. The lightweight intrigues me though... The weapons mounted on an angle mount? How does it work?

I think you should build a MW version of the bot you entered for your challenge against Redace, that was certainly not generic.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2016, 07:44:33 AM
The tribars are on an axle mount. Lets them spin when hit by a HS and movle slightly with movement, which allows better gutripping that static weapons without the weight/battery cost of a couple of motors. I got the idea from Gauche Suede's Heli Liver. It's not amazing but it can pull out some wins against HS and against popups it's just a wedge war.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 11, 2016, 07:59:00 AM
Can we see the insides of the first one? I think you have another burst motor in there that allows for it to work as a front hinged flipper?

As for the second, was going to ask how that works, but is that really better than building a wammer instead?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2016, 09:04:58 AM
Can we see the insides of the first one? I think you have another burst motor in there that allows for it to work as a front hinged flipper?

As for the second, was going to ask how that works, but is that really better than building a wammer instead?
idk. It gutrips more than a wammer which is nice.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2016, 10:23:44 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94993screenshot_32.png)
Removed the battery and CB so you could see better. Used T connectors instead of extenders because on a thin bot like this symmetry is more important so it doesn't drive wonkily. Swapping would only get me another razor anyway (if that). If I had more chassis space (or the chassis points could be closer together) I could offset the snapper to compensate, but it's not a huge deal.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 11, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
question: why do you even have the snappers mounted to the t extender? you should be able to attach them directly to the baseplate.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 11, 2016, 06:07:12 PM
question: why do you even have the snappers mounted to the t extender? you should be able to attach them directly to the baseplate.
I'm guessing he made the chassis smaller- no wait the other snapper2's are already there. Think it's there for space(althrough it doesn't give much and might make the snapper2's vunerable, unless that position was wanted to have a wider attack hitbox).
So there's usually a Nifty inside that Snapper II with a control board inside the Nifty on top of the Snapper II ?
Thanks for the screenshots.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on August 11, 2016, 06:43:04 PM
For sure attach the weapon snappers first and snapper load the axles away to attach the wedge snappers. then you just use anchors to attack the drive, and ditch the blue snapper to free up a ton of weight.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Hi5er on August 12, 2016, 02:57:17 AM
Guys, the battery and control board are in that gap or I'm sure he would have.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 12, 2016, 06:05:55 AM
Guys, the battery and control board are in that gap or I'm sure he would have.
Right, that's why he said he removed the battery(guess that was snapper loaded in there?) CB is probably on top of the Snapper 2.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 12, 2016, 06:57:25 AM
CB is ontop of the battery, and Hi5er is correct. Could probably widen the chassis a little or do something to implement the improvements above but I like the feel that the bot has as is.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on August 12, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
only thing i would do is put the snapper wedges on anchors so you can lower the chassis height and make it a little wider.

looks pretty decent for a popup
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2016, 08:59:53 AM
This thing has good wedges. Not NWB tier but close.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36316th1.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68013th2.png)

This one, however, does not.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/97849idk1.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: botomatic1000 on August 17, 2016, 09:03:10 AM
that's a menacing looking juggler (I think that's the term) you got there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUqUVrXclE
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Ye the first one is a juggler
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Hi5er on August 17, 2016, 09:19:51 AM
Have you tried not stacking the discs on your juggler on the snapper?

I found mounting them on a baseplate makes the bot more stable, which led to better wedges. The weapons obviously move slower, but if you're underneath the enemy, it doesn't matter how fast they go, either way you'll grind them up.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on August 17, 2016, 10:35:54 AM
i like the juggler, you can probably shorten the wedges and move the brackets up+wider+back. i also don't think full maces on the disc faces are the best, they would be doing more balancing than grinding
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on August 17, 2016, 02:36:59 PM
Been working on a bot just like that hs for awhile. IMO it needs to be thicker.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: RedAce on August 17, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
Who is this "TheRoyalBadger" dude.  Sounds like a more narcissistic version of Badger.

Anyway, nice juggler, but I feel the claws might hinder due to the normals.  Impressed with the good wedges on it as well.  What did you slip the game for that to happen?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: botomatic1000 on August 17, 2016, 02:57:53 PM
Who is this "TheRoyalBadger" dude.  Sounds like a more narcissistic version of Badger.
Lol
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2016, 03:11:50 PM
Who is this "TheRoyalBadger" dude.  Sounds like a more narcissistic version of Badger.

Anyway, nice juggler, but I feel the claws might hinder due to the normals.  Impressed with the good wedges on it as well.  What did you slip the game for that to happen?
Drive attached to baseplate and rubber wheels
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on August 17, 2016, 03:13:26 PM
it's a waste of weight to use 2 extenders to attach weapons like that on the HS, plus it makes them a lot more fragile and more likely to fall off.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 17, 2016, 04:27:51 PM
it's a waste of weight to use 2 extenders to attach weapons like that on the HS, plus it makes them a lot more fragile and more likely to fall off.
Yes it's inefficient, but how else am I gonna get the weapons on. Don't feel like removing a weapon motor and putting 3 maces per tribar. I actually chose maces over irons to better protect the extenders. In the (single) test fight vs another HS almost all of the extenders were there by the time all the maces had fallen off.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 17, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
it's a waste of weight to use 2 extenders to attach weapons like that on the HS, plus it makes them a lot more fragile and more likely to fall off.
Yes it's inefficient, but how else am I gonna get the weapons on. Don't feel like removing a weapon motor and putting 3 maces per tribar. I actually chose maces over irons to better protect the extenders. In the (single) test fight vs another HS almost all of the extenders were there by the time all the maces had fallen off.
Think he might mean how you can rotate them sideways(in the direction that the HS spins) and put 3 maces on that way?

Like this:

MEX
  MM

EX is extender and M is mace.

Who is this "TheRoyalBadger" dude.  Sounds like a more narcissistic version of Badger.

Anyway, nice juggler, but I feel the claws might hinder due to the normals.  Impressed with the good wedges on it as well.  What did you slip the game for that to happen?
Heh, thought about that as well when I first read this thread.
Also you should see the wedges on one of my(yet unreleased) bots, they're surprisingly very effective.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 02:19:05 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7910039_0.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7812239_1.png)

Bear claws are crap when they're not on HS.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 18, 2016, 04:13:28 AM
Normals causing trouble?
Also what about switching to plastic and upgrading to HP drive?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 04:51:08 AM
Not sure that the switch to plastic for HP drive would be worth, especially considering I'd have to make the chassis larger. The problem with it ATM is the normals combined with the fact that it gets raped by HS, I think.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Hi5er on August 18, 2016, 07:28:52 AM
Not sure that the switch to plastic for HP drive would be worth, especially considering I'd have to make the chassis larger. The problem with it ATM is the normals combined with the fact that it gets raped by HS, I think.

Surely by using a weapon without normals it would actually start causing damage back to the HS's, second, I find having faster, harder drive to get under a HS is often beneficial because if you're under them they can't hit you.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on August 18, 2016, 09:22:48 AM
Not sure that the switch to plastic for HP drive would be worth, especially considering I'd have to make the chassis larger. The problem with it ATM is the normals combined with the fact that it gets raped by HS, I think.
Thought that HP's would still fit in there even if I knew that they have a bigger collision box. Upon closer view I see that you made this chassis without the grid?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 10:53:46 AM
Yup, you can't make decent stock bots using only the grid.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on August 21, 2016, 11:33:41 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/79452screenshot_40.png)

This is what happens to popup builders.

Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on August 21, 2016, 01:08:31 PM

can you reduce AGODs

lol nope
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on August 21, 2016, 02:47:24 PM
try building the chassis in a different direction on the grid it helped me once
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on August 21, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
use horizontal snappers, they don't agod unless you puta retarded amount of weight on them.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Reier on August 21, 2016, 06:12:49 PM
play ironforge
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2016, 07:41:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FshRinQ.png)

Possible official tournament entry, idk its pretty boring. If I do enter it I'll give it a reskin. Points to whoever gets the reference.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: botomatic1000 on September 02, 2016, 07:52:39 AM
It's rather intimidating but the exposed motors might cause a problem? Well at least I think they could
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 02, 2016, 08:47:46 AM
> yoshi city
> missing comic sans and lame-ass 80s graphics

then again my brain hasn't been functioning properly because it's been 10 years since rtz strim

That's a pretty decent use of 7 kgs, although I don't think it would matter much if that thing's a Havok bomb.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2016, 08:50:37 AM
> yoshi city
> missing comic sans and lame-ass 80s graphics
yes then
it's been 10 years since rtz strim
MY BOY
That's a pretty decent use of 7 kgs, although I don't think it would matter much if that thing's a Havok bomb.
4Head

It's actually super stable, from what I've tested
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2016, 03:20:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/jqPn8GL.png)
Pretty neat wedges, somehow. Beats NWB usually.

(http://i.imgur.com/a770p6A.png)
Update to Yoshi City, thanks to 09 for the feedback on discord.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on September 03, 2016, 03:34:36 AM
that first bot is technically illegal since you can't attach zteks to extenders like that
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2016, 03:39:30 AM
changed drive layout, and now the wedges are back to being terrible. screw this game.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on September 03, 2016, 04:07:45 AM
heh, I was gonna name a bot Kyoto.

that first bot is technically illegal since you can't attach zteks to extenders like that
I don't get it. Did he bfe them or what
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on September 03, 2016, 04:13:21 AM
he's a pleb who uses ra2cf olololol
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2016, 06:33:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/nQLG1jZ.png)

Update, pretty sure its legal now. Wedges aren't amazing but it's very stable so it's good at winning the first collision, and kills pretty quickly afterward
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 03, 2016, 07:18:14 AM
That's a shame. The original looked quite nice. I was just expecting you to find a way to push the whole setup inwards so you can attach the drive to 20cms coming out of the main extenders.

But I guess it's kinda hard to scavenge 7kg out of nowhere. That and your chassis is pretty tight as is.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on September 03, 2016, 07:21:43 AM
why didnt you just remove one of the 140cm extenders on the orginal and them use a 20 cm extender on each side to space out the first set of z teks  :dumb)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 03, 2016, 07:56:37 AM
why didnt you just remove one of the 140cm extenders on the orginal and them use a 20 cm extender on each side to space out the first set of z teks  :dumb)
Because if I removed one of the 140cm extenders the snapper axle would rotate backward whenever the bot would move forward. It's why the 140cm extenders are there on the first version in the first place
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: R01 on September 03, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
Sad that the rotation wasn't possible, would otherwise be a very nice looking bot.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 04, 2016, 12:45:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cNMCzqF.png)

Also tried an angled version, but in testing it performed worse in pretty much every way

(http://i.imgur.com/XG1vcll.png)

Anyone know a good MW to test wedges on?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: botomatic1000 on September 04, 2016, 12:48:05 PM
that looks pretty dam intimidating but the exposed motor could be a problem.
MW to test wedges on? anything but OA3
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 04, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
that looks pretty dam intimidating but the exposed motor could be a problem.
MW to test wedges on? anything but OA3
(http://i.imgur.com/SSAHT37.png)
Oops, sorry
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: botomatic1000 on September 04, 2016, 12:59:38 PM
that looks pretty dam intimidating but the exposed motor could be a problem.
MW to test wedges on? anything but OA3
(http://i.imgur.com/SSAHT37.png)
Oops, sorry
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36887Pissed off Sabrina (2).jpg)
you B****** lol
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on September 04, 2016, 06:26:48 PM
dat skin tho <3
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 04, 2016, 07:27:15 PM
You could extend the rear part of the chassis further so you can rotate the HPZs properly.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 04, 2016, 10:50:38 PM
You could extend the rear part of the chassis further so you can rotate the HPZs properly.
I could, but they don't cause any issues as is so I don't see the point in bothering tbh
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on September 05, 2016, 09:36:25 PM
Dope use of bear claws, dude
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2016, 09:03:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EIANWiD.png)

Had to switch from a lighter setup with a horizontal snapper due to instability and minor AGOD. This thing is still kinda havoky and mauler dance-y when it loses a few claws too. Having to do that 2x nifty+cb stack was a huge PITA, just RA2CF'd it on the rebuild once I knew I could do it.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on September 15, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
Having to do that 2x nifty+cb stack was a huge PITA, just RA2CF'd it on the rebuild once I knew I could do it.

loser
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mecha on September 15, 2016, 09:40:34 AM
just RA2CF'd
And no surprises were had.
But seriously dude, how is that even fun. like what's the point
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 15, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
is the stack even worth it? a black's more powerful and allows for an even larger chassis for stability
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2016, 04:33:39 PM
just RA2CF'd
And no surprises were had.
But seriously dude, how is that even fun. like what's the point
You find stacking fun? :S

I did the stack legit the first time, cba for the rebuild. I don't find stacking fun and the end result is the same, screw me for trying to enjoy stock right? At least I'm honest about it.

is the stack even worth it? a black's more powerful and allows for an even larger chassis for stability
Not sure if you can do this setup with a black. Probably can. Lemme go try it, brb
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2016, 05:22:30 PM
System Shock klone, make 100% without RA2CF or BFE or any of that jazz
(http://i.imgur.com/xJO4r1R.png)
After the stack I didn't want to spend too long trying to get the z-teks straight, so that's why they're askew.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on September 15, 2016, 05:56:58 PM
That's awesome looking
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
That's awesome looking
ty mate, all credits to Geice for the design.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 15, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LFxdSMx.png)

Uneven BA exostacks make me sad. Gonna finish this tomorrow. Just realized I'm gonna have to remove and restack the nifty too, which will be fun.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 16, 2016, 01:57:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gANe0y3.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2016, 01:19:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wcMXZ0R.png)

The Shining Dragon, 1 black 1 nifty, 4 razors on a snapper2, 397.8kg

Probably gonna enter this, cause the VS get destroyed by HS and so too does Snake Bite.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 23, 2016, 04:35:39 AM
WutFace

but yeah the popup looks much cleaner than the wammer thingy

Snake Bite's chassis still has some potential though. You could clean it up for a centered chassis and piston. I don't think you lose much from not forcing exostacks.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2016, 06:29:04 AM
It's a piston gutripper, I just screwed up on the screenshot with a bad angle.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Fracture on September 23, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wcMXZ0R.png)

The Shining Dragon, 1 black 1 nifty, 4 razors on a snapper2, 397.8kg

Probably gonna enter this, cause the VS get destroyed by HS and so too does Snake Bite.
if it only has a snapper2 weapon like most lightweights, it just needs a black at the very most. the ramplates look cool but an actual chassis wedge would probably be more effective. also it's hard to tell but the wedge extenders might be too long, making it prone to being flanked
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on September 23, 2016, 09:07:10 AM
WutFace
twitchfaaag
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on September 23, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
i would actually worry about getting flanked since the arena start potions are offset
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 090901 on September 23, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
i dont like the popup. no chassis wedge and steep ramplate setup like that and the huge gap means its going to get eaten by hs imo
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 27, 2016, 01:25:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/SQtVD7U.png)

Probable entry to the championship. SB 1 was probably my first bot built off a single snapper that was completely stable and had no AGOD. Evolutionary changes rather than revolutionary in the update (just switching the weapon rack really). Wedges are good.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on September 27, 2016, 02:44:32 AM
the drive is triggering me

but yeah i guess it does look slightly cleaner
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 27, 2016, 03:46:42 AM
the drive is triggering me

but yeah i guess it does look slightly cleaner
How so? It's nearly symmetrical :P
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 27, 2016, 09:29:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/h5LvNqY.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/qobVyn7.png])

For some reason the drive makes the bot hop up and down, particularly when turning, making the wedges useless. Any idea how to fix this? Has the same issue on Kyoto but the 140cm extenders fixed it, not so here.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on September 27, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
Probably because you're using an HS chassis for a gutripper. Make it wider and longer, maybe give it a single wedge too.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: 09090901 on September 27, 2016, 09:40:32 PM
vertical snappers tend to do that with the way you have you're drive mounted and when you have your drive on the axles.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 27, 2016, 10:05:02 PM
Aight so I made some small changes

(http://i.imgur.com/iT9RmnA.png)

Now it outwedges NWB. wat.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2016, 03:05:48 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25234Brain Power.png)

Probably gonna enter Kyoto, Perdition or this for wen's tournament.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on October 10, 2016, 04:56:55 PM
I really dig that, but the DDTs are a bit exposed
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2016, 06:06:16 PM
I really dig that, but the DDTs are a bit exposed
eh, bot is max width and the ramplates half cover them. I tested it a ton to get the wedges right (it originally had bracket wedges instead of ramplates on the top, rubber wheels, no razors, and even further back had 4 small air tanks instead and 2 pistons) and the ramplates dies to HS a long-ass time before the DDTs go. The 140cm extenders have no HP too so yeah, they usually go after the ramplates.


Not that that's an issue, the bot was built for the ring arena, so it's made to just shove HS OOTA on the first hit. It usually does OK at that.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 12, 2016, 11:10:04 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70005retard.png)

So I made this for retard rumble. Pretty happy with it. Then I clicked test bot and...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89378retardagod.png)

Actually end me. Looks like im gonna be rebuilding with sideways snappers.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on October 12, 2016, 11:14:08 AM
Absolutely love the design, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on October 12, 2016, 12:06:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pM0VKrh.png)

Now its so bouncy that the wedges are literally useless. And I was just reminded that we cant use wedges for the challenge. FML. Might just say screw it and make a 48HS or something like that, but thats pretty retarded.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on October 12, 2016, 09:01:28 PM
I'm surprised that it's bouncy. Generally bursted redbirds are slow enough to prevent bouncing, although I'm not sure if the setup has anything to do it.

still looks pretty cool tho
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on November 05, 2016, 09:42:37 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22174hornet.png)

No prizes for guessing what bot inspired me to build this abomination. And yes, the entire ramming/wamming rack, including ramplates, are on that piston, which is attached to a drive extender, which is on that single blue snapper.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on November 05, 2016, 09:55:06 AM
It's probably better to have a row of static irons be the top rack and the razors on the bottom one. The snapper still has an unused arm, so you could dump the static stuff there.

That probably wouldn't solve the wedge problem, though.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on November 07, 2016, 01:44:06 PM
Dude that thing looks nuts, but I'd be inclined to agree with pretty much everything Pwn said. Not sure how to fix the wedges.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on April 03, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
A couple MW Popups, both have 6 razors on 2 bursts.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6157mike.png)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76980idk man.png)


I think Snapper2s are actually better than DDts for light weapon loads, feels like they're faster but with less lifting force. idk, but the 2nd popup seems to get semi-regular OHKOs, which never happens with the first. Maybe its because its a true popup.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on April 03, 2017, 07:52:32 AM
It's probably because of the extra razor on the DDT, so that's 9 more kg it has to swing. It should be just as fast as a Snapper2 if it only has 4-5 razors.

sweet stack btw
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on April 03, 2017, 08:13:00 AM
It's probably because of the extra razor on the DDT, so that's 9 more kg it has to swing. It should be just as fast as a Snapper2 if it only has 4-5 razors.

sweet stack btw
Actually, both the bots have 6 razors (2 per burst).

Ye, the black-nifty stack didn't actually take as long as I expected, I got some good advice from AS (or was it geice or 09, I can't remember) on the discord.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on April 04, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/65873idk man 2.png)
Wedges are pretty good, but not quite as good as the 2 popups above. Kinda sucks against anything that's not a popup or juddglr, since I'm spending so much weight on caster armour for a bot that can't do anything to the bot types that caster armour is useful for. Could've just made it another popup but thats boring.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on April 05, 2017, 02:02:10 AM
wat how is that bad against hs

might as well mount the motors onto the wedge snappers and see if that works
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on April 05, 2017, 02:11:22 AM
wat how is that bad against hs

might as well mount the motors onto the wedge snappers and see if that works
guessing it gets deweaponed too fast and then the HS WBP
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on April 06, 2017, 12:03:02 PM
what i would try is making some weapon racks that are angled upwards a bit instead of that caster armor. something that can trap hs weapons decently so you can grind away at them with the tribars
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on April 08, 2017, 07:59:32 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58082potatomasher.png)

AGOD fugg'd the wedges. And I have about 20kgs of spare weight that I have nowhere to use. Mayb eI should remove the bracket wedges and move the weapons onto a couple separate snappers, but using 5 snappers in 1 bot feels sh**ty.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on April 08, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
There's no shame in using T-connectors, man. Although you could move the brackets to the sides and have a plow on top with your spare weight.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on April 08, 2017, 10:02:57 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86170outwedge devourer.png)

Outwedge Devourer. No more massive AGOD, wedges are slightly ass but it's a god at eating other bots wedges so that makes up for it.


Probably my favourite bot out of all the ones I've built. Maybe except kyoto, idk. It needs a skin.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 07, 2017, 06:50:40 AM
just getting in on the flavour of the month

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58432idkman.png)

Not the most efficient weapon setup but **** it its aesthetic and I have a thing for axle 'spinners'
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Philippa on September 07, 2017, 06:53:10 AM
So is it all on one axle?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 07, 2017, 06:59:44 AM
So is it all on one axle?
No on 12 separate axles because I can
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on September 07, 2017, 05:46:35 PM
That is absurd
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Meganerdbomb on September 07, 2017, 05:50:53 PM
Wtf is this.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Sage on September 07, 2017, 11:14:40 PM
dope af.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 08, 2017, 05:01:51 AM
those bots are dope. I particularly like the Tempest Exterminator style bots and the razor spinner. That asymmetry is triggering my ADHD though, use some T-connectors since you have some weight left.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 10, 2017, 01:31:40 AM
RA2CF makes wiring even more fun!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94304stock in 2017.png)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on September 10, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
It SNSs really slowly because you have the wheels too close together.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: UberPyro on September 10, 2017, 04:20:27 PM
RA2CF makes wiring even more fun!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94304stock in 2017.png)

When building CF unrealistic I've learned to wire each motor right after I place them to make it a tad bit easier. In addition I found that when two motors are stacked perfectly inside of each other, it seems to be random which one you select in the wiring menu. I find CF building fun, since it gets challenging (especially with hermaphroditism making you want to place things where you don't want to) and its like learning how to build again.

Also what Mr. AS said is true.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on May 17, 2018, 09:26:38 PM
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I used BFE to switch the extenders from red to black, and to switch the wheels from shinies to grannies. No RA2CF was used in the making of this bot (honest!)
36 bear claws, 6 maces, 2 black batts, 2 blue snappers, mad AGOD.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on May 18, 2018, 02:24:11 AM
Well done, you made Black Bear. i have copyright on this 36hs setup. :P
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Reier on May 18, 2018, 02:24:54 AM
nice build. sucks about the agod though

wondering if getting some plows or ramplates on there instead of 6 maces would be good, but honestly it would be a super pain in the can to do
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on May 18, 2018, 02:39:20 AM
nice build. sucks about the agod though

wondering if getting some plows or ramplates on there instead of 6 maces would be good, but honestly it would be a super pain in the can to do
I actually don't think it would be too hard on a rebuild, but ATM I only have 1 extender per snapper, and every AP of those extenders are used. If I were to rebuild I would 100% replace the extra maces for a few plows or caster armour, as well as mounting the snappers on their side which IIRC mitigates the chance of AGOD.
Well done, you made Black Bear. i have copyright on this 36hs setup. :P
It's stock, nothing is new unless it's out of Geice's showcase ;)
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on June 20, 2018, 07:24:31 PM
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Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: kill343gs on June 20, 2018, 07:28:42 PM
thats pretty hot
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Silverfish on June 20, 2018, 07:28:58 PM
and exactly HOW many BAs are in that whopper of a stack?
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on June 20, 2018, 07:36:21 PM
and exactly HOW many BAs are in that whopper of a stack?
Only 3, BAs are pretty easy to stack.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Silverfish on June 20, 2018, 07:37:00 PM
ahhhh, now I see it. Looked like more for a sec XD
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2018, 06:35:01 PM
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Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: Dreamcast on September 08, 2018, 08:34:34 PM
Coming soon to an ASAI V2 near you.
Title: Re: TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase
Post by: toAst on September 08, 2018, 11:40:36 PM
edit sorry wrong thread but your bot is excellent my man