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Title: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 03:10:29 PM: here is my stock showcase. don't troll me, don't flame me, constructive critism please, also my bots here will invariably be on the exchange. feel free to modify them to suit your needs. just give credit where credit is due and see the potential for my bots.
(btw: i troll/flame back, and/or report)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/33582sprcldr 1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35702sprcldr2.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10606tr1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/81554tr2.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40785sr21.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66086sr22.png)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:11:16 PM: I'd like to see what you have to offer in terms of bot building.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: NFX on March 19, 2012, 03:16:01 PM: Okay, it's a good starting point. It would help if we had a shot of the insides, and knew what the armour was. It also helps if you crop the pictures so it's just the bot (everyone knows what the Bot Lab looks like), and saved it as preferably a .PNG file, as the bitmap format the gave saves screenshots as takes a lot of memory.

Also, some criticism can be harsher than others, you need to be able to distinguish between harsh criticism and trolling/flaming. And trolling/flaming back is a VERY bad idea. Especially if you're new. People's first impressions of you stick with you for as long as you're here, and if you've given a bad first impression, people are less likely to take you seriously in the future.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on March 19, 2012, 03:18:43 PM: I don't understand why you use Stock parts in DSL...
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:18:57 PM: Can we have a shot of the insides?
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 03:19:45 PM: that is a png. and ill get the guts right now.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: GoldenFox93 on March 19, 2012, 03:20:03 PM: Is there a view inside?

By the way, what Jonzy there means is that utilising Stock parts in DSL (IE. The bits that came with the original game) is generally frowned upon, unless it's certain wheels or weapons. I do see some potential, though.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 19, 2012, 03:22:34 PM: Quick tips from me. People will fill holes.

It needs to be around 800kg to use weight to it's advantage
To put images up, you can upload them to the uploader on the front page then just post the link in img tags.
Try to crop images - we've all seen the botlab.
We could do with seeing insides to know where the weight is going, and what components you're using.
Use DSA (Double Strength Aluminium) if you aren't already - it's very strong. You get it by not clicking the armor tab at all after making a chassis.
It looks quite tall, and those aren't great wheels - try lowering it to around 5 pixels from minimum and putting some shiny hub wheels (the best) on High Power Z-teks.
Finally, DO NOT report posts unless it's a REALLY SERIOUS matter (not flaming).. ACAMS gets tetchy :3

Okay I got beat to a lot of these, sorry XD
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:24:07 PM: I thought DSA in DSL was terrible. :/
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Hercules on March 19, 2012, 03:25:46 PM: Quote from: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
I thought DSA in DSL was terrible. :/
Its stock with DSL backrgound
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 03:25:53 PM: Post insides, and avoid thumbnails.

I've seen much worse for a newbie, but it is nothing like amazing.

Also, build to weight limit, don't use stock parts in a DSL game, and don't start a showcase with drama bait such as this :

Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
[...] don't troll me, don't flame me [...]
(btw: i troll/flame back, and/or report)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:27:04 PM: Quote from: Hercules on March 19, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
I thought DSA in DSL was terrible. :/
Its stock with DSL backrgound
*facepalm* Just noticed.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 03:28:26 PM: the reason for the slims was to make the bot invertable, and eliminate the need for a SRIMEC
and this was made before i obtained dsl and was thereby grandfathered into the game.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 19, 2012, 03:30:10 PM: where to begin... you will likely need a way to pin your opponent to a wall, snowplows are recommended, see rabid pit bull (search for it on the wiki or take a look at it in starcore ai v3 or later) you will also need wedges if you dont want to get your ass handed to you by pop-ups
edit: also too much batteries... you only need 1 black battery for this
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 03:30:44 PM: You can also make the chassis slimmer and use lighter wheels, you know ? You only need a chassis the height of a Z-tek (well slightly more) for this.

Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on March 19, 2012, 03:30:10 PM
where to begin... you will likely need a way to pin your opponent to a wall, snowplows are recommended, see rabid pit bull (search for it on the wiki or take a look at it in starcore ai v3 or later) you will also need wedges if you dont want to get your ass handed to you by pop-ups

Yes but... there is no need for higher level advice at this point, he needs to learn the bases of good building first.

EDIT : you're using good batteries and good motors, now make the chassis less tall and well fitting around the components. Of course you need to eyeball it before you add the components to minimize empty space, but that's a necessary part of building.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: NFX on March 19, 2012, 03:32:13 PM: It's a Stock Showcase, guys. It's just the DSL Bot Lab for whatever reason.

And it would still be invertible with Shiny Hubs, which are considerably lighter than the Slim Wheels. That'll give you the weight to add either some more weapons/spinners, or some extra defenses, or wedges and so forth.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 03:36:04 PM: Quote from: NFX on March 19, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
And it would still be invertible with Shiny Hubs, which are considerably lighter than the Slim Wheels. That'll give you the weight to add either some more weapons/spinners, or some extra defenses, or wedges and so forth.

No no no. Not on a FS like that. Shinies are smaller than discs, and the discs will therefore touch the ground, reducing the weapon's power.

Use slipperbottoms.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 03:40:25 PM: that does NOT look invertable to me
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48580no3.png)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: NFX on March 19, 2012, 03:44:14 PM: Ah, I see. Chassis needs to be lowered, then. If you look at the slider you select the height with, and set it to five "clicks" high, that'll allow you to fit an HP Z-Tek into the chassis. Any lower, and it won't fit.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 03:45:27 PM: Make it the minimum possible height.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 03:46:11 PM: Quote from: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 03:36:04 PM
Use slipperbottoms.
My first bot was a lot like yours, and this was very good advice.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:31:52 PM: super collider is a full body hammer combined with a face spinner, it is designed for hit and run attacks, focusing on wheels and extenders.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:34:11 PM: The Reactor, is a thwacker/face spinner that rams, then thwacks, and runs.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 19, 2012, 04:34:36 PM: Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
super collider is a full body hammer combined with a face spinner, it is designed for hit and run attacks, focusing on wheels and extenders.
oh so basically its more like a rammer rather than a fs?
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 04:35:28 PM: Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
The Reactor, is a thwacker/face spinner that rams, then thwacks, and runs.
Can we see it?
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:39:06 PM: yes, you have the disks spinning, and you ram into the other bot at full throttle, like take down or double edge.
also, it's there on page one
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:41:51 PM: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14338tr1.png)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 04:42:31 PM: Insides.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:42:38 PM: check the 1st post for the guts
i know, i should have used HPs, but i was getting too heavy
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55045tr2.png)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 19, 2012, 04:45:27 PM: STILL overpowered... you only need 1 black batt for this
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 04:45:33 PM: Sorry, didn't see it there.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: CrazyClown on March 19, 2012, 04:48:08 PM: As i have noticed you like your bots to be able to move either way up. Which is fine and i nothing against that. Just, for me, it would be awesome if the bot was smaller in size BUT had the SAME weaponry. Just my take on things. hope this helps :)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:48:33 PM: better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:50:02 PM: For reactor, I imported Tailwhip and made it a face spinner/thwacker
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:53:24 PM: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30723tr3.png)
btw, both are available on bot exchange.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Tweedy on March 19, 2012, 04:57:40 PM: how long is the arm on it
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 04:58:12 PM: NFX will like this next one. give me about ten minutes
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:00:10 PM: LONG
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 05:01:39 PM: Use HPZteks.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:06:14 PM: I wanted a middle weight, not a HW. high powers would have added a total of 15 kg. the bot is 392.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on March 19, 2012, 05:08:49 PM: Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:06:14 PM
I wanted a middle weight, not a HW. high powers would have added a total of 15 kg. the bot is 392.
remove a black battery...
(and reduce chassis space afterwards)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on March 19, 2012, 05:10:45 PM: Download starcore v3 and laugh at your ego.

edit:lol just read the welcome thread
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: RammingSpeed on March 19, 2012, 05:11:45 PM: Quote from: Scrap Daddy on March 19, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Download starcore v3 and laugh at your ego.
This.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:12:19 PM: (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40785sr21.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66086sr22.png)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: NFX on March 19, 2012, 05:15:51 PM: You've easily got the weight for two more irons on the spinner. More weaponry = More damage caused.

Wheels on axle mounts are pretty much a waste of weight. Get rid of them, and use the weight to get some more powerful drive motors. That should be a good place to start.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: CrazyClown on March 19, 2012, 05:16:02 PM: Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:12:19 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40785sr21.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66086sr22.png)

cute but could be smaller. hmmm, why do u have the small wheels at front? to stabalize? if so keep them. as for the black battery indeed get rid and make it smaller
regards Crazyclown :)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:17:00 PM: Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on March 19, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:06:14 PM
I wanted a middle weight, not a HW. high powers would have added a total of 15 kg. the bot is 392.
remove a black battery...
(and reduce chassis space afterwards)

icant, i have dsltc now. those parts only exist in the robots that were grandfathered in.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 19, 2012, 05:20:26 PM: You can have both, you know. We have full downloads of both Stock and DSL in a few signatures around here.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:20:56 PM: I thought this looked like minor miners' little brother or something
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:23:00 PM: also, the 4 iron spikes generated some maul dancing.
:dance:
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 19, 2012, 05:25:05 PM: Please try and edit your previous post instead of double-posting. Double-posting is generally frowned upon.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:26:45 PM: sorry i had no idea.
O.o
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: cephalopod on March 19, 2012, 05:28:39 PM: Don't worry, just try to do it in future :D
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:30:20 PM: what do you think overall about the bots?
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 05:38:00 PM: I think they really could use some improvement, but you'll get the hang of it.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:39:06 PM: thank you oh wise one
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 05:43:08 PM: Sarcasm?

if you do everything they tell you your bot will probably end up being terrible, but at least do some of the things they ask
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2012, 05:44:32 PM: Who are you, you who disturbs our teaching ?

Superchu, do what NFX said.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:44:46 PM: Quote from: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
Sarcasm?

if you do everything they tell you your bot will probably end up being terrible, but at least do some of the things they ask
yes and no.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Nate Tech on March 19, 2012, 05:50:18 PM: I was just kidding. If you posted a perfect bot then SOMEONE would have some way to criticize it.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: FOTEPX on March 19, 2012, 07:20:45 PM: I'm gonna treat you like you've been here a few months and just give you the facts.

No need for the axle wheels with the mini's on
Needs a HP-Ztek
Horrible chassis setup

It's your choice what you do here; Either A: Have 1 spinner, and add a wedge, or have two spinners. Whatever you choose to do, do it well.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on March 19, 2012, 10:55:11 PM: I find it very funny that no one is noticing the obvious signs that this is LRA2/Avalanche/FROST101ification/one of Avalanche's dipsh** friends.

Edit:

Quote from: SuperchuFrost
i've been playing since first grade, so dont lecture me about building.

This, but take a look at the profile page. They are supposedly 16.... RA2 was released in 2003.

Learn2mathb4troll

Also... Damnit. 1000 posts... SHW rank is for spammers.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 20, 2012, 01:19:32 AM: Quote from: HurricaneAndrew on March 19, 2012, 10:55:11 PM
I find it very funny that no one is noticing the obvious signs that this is LRA2/Avalanche/FROST101ification/one of Avalanche's dipsh** friends.

And what are the obvious signs ?
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on March 20, 2012, 02:19:35 AM: I think FROST10 was sparkey's "friend"
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 20, 2012, 03:07:32 AM: Yes, I remember. That doesn't prove anything.

Now enough with silly theories. And even if he is one of LRA2's or Sparkey's friends (that I find highly unlikely) he doesn't seem n00bish.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: SuperchuFrost on March 20, 2012, 01:07:19 PM: Ok... do you want the full story of my name?... OK here we go...
Chapter 1... Superchu
Who here has played super smash bros. melee with a friend with both of you doing the voices of your characters? my friend used pikachu... and acted like it was a super hero. super and pikachu or Superchu.
Chapter 2... Frostbite
so the name in Ch1 had become a running joke between me and a friend, and had become my username for anything that required one. until one day I made an account for a game called secondlife which allows you to type in a first name for your character and then pick from a dropdown list of random words for your last name the word frostbite just happened to be on there and I just happened to think Superchu Frostbite sounded cool. no conspiracy, no hidden relations I'm just a normal person who has an abnormal internet name. Now if you don't like it, well that's too bad, you'll just have to deal with it.
Chapter 3...
Quote from: HurricaneAndrew on March 19, 2012, 10:55:11 PM
I find it very funny that no one is noticing the obvious signs that this is LRA2/Avalanche/FROST101ification/one of Avalanche's dipsh** friends.

Edit:

Quote from: SuperchuFrost
i've been playing since first grade, so dont lecture me about building.

This, but take a look at the profile page. They are supposedly 16.... RA2 was released in 2003.

Learn2mathb4troll

Also... Damnit. 1000 posts... SHW rank is for spammers.
well im sorry mr perfect memory you must remember every single picosecond from your childhood and remember every single detail from your life. well I must be the dumbest person on earth, because I can't do that. I got Robot Arena 2 from one of those elementary school scholastic book fairs in first or second grade. So i made a little mistake, so you perfect people who must have never made a mistake in your lives automatically brand me a troll? you have got to be kidding me.
btw... thanks naryar, for standing up for me, I misjudged you. you're not so evil in my book. ;)
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Somebody on March 20, 2012, 01:28:25 PM: Don't edit bots into the first post. Just post them in the thread as replies. So when the thread gets to 30 pages we won't have to jump between page 1 and 30 and it'll look a lot neater. And you won't accidentally delete bots out of the first post rendering pages of the thread useless.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on March 21, 2012, 08:42:25 AM: Well, I apologize. I was mistaken.

A word to the wise, though... Don't talk to me like that unless you would like to be torn a new asshole verbally. I will let you have this one, but keep that in mind.

I do suggest you try DSL, instead of just using the UI, judging by your style.
Title: Re: SuperchuFrostbites' showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 21, 2012, 09:14:45 AM: Before you start, and to stop the fire from taking off... I will have NO flaming in there !

This is a showcase, a place for learning, sharing ideas and showing bots, NOT a battlefield for egos.

Having a different opinion about RA2 and debating it here is fine as long as it's relevant, and even if it's a heated debate it is welcomed because it can give new insight. However, if you really want an ego clash, go and do it in Playground (or challenge board), NOT HERE. Flame wars do NOT belong in there.

Also HA, I wouldn't go and bully some newbie in the showcases just because you can, or because your ego has been bruised. You have attacked him unfairly, and you accept that it was unfair, how do you expect him to react ? Cower in a corner, cry and call his momma ? And then why do you blame him for retaliating to that unwarranted attack of yours ?

You have clearly straightened up and adopted a better stance since your muting and my warning, and that I am glad of. However, I am still watching you, and you threatening pointlessly some newbie will not be tolerated.

This also goes for you, Superchu. Flaming back someone who has flamed you will not be tolerated, because it adds to spam in the showcase and generally prompts some people to act thoughtlessly.

If you have a trouble maker in your showcase, just remove his posts and/or call me via PM. This goes for all of you by the way.