ok, and maybe, just maybe, after that i MAYBE can stack an extra black in there too.
The point of making a 36 HS is that you figure it our yourself to prove your skills. The rules are also fairly strict:
1. 36 weapons that weight 10 kgs each, ex. Iron Spikes and Maces. (You can, if you have the weight, add a frontal weapon for protection)
2. These 36 weapons will be on 4 tribars that are on 4 HP-Zteks.
3. The drive will be 2 HP-Zteks, usually with shiny hub wheels on them.
4. The power will be 2 Black Batteries.
5. This is optional, but you will get much more respect if you can make it invertible as well.
That said, I have built a lot of them and will you give you a few tips:
1. Pretty much the only way is to use two blue Snapper II's. There are two workable designs that use 2 servos and a few with one snapper II... but i already made those :P
2. You should learn snapper loading before you attempt this. (Look in my signature for a tutorial.)
3. There are many, many ways to do a setup for this type of bot (which is why they are fun to build) but it's becoming hard to come up with new ones as of late. I would suggest looking at other peoples versions and copying the design. After you make your first it's easier to design a new setup.
4. Come up with the setup in your head or on paper before even attempting it in game. This will usually help. The weight of the stuff is 762-766 kgs (depending on if you use 2 20cms or 4 20cms for your setup) so your chassis will have to be fairly small. The breakdown for the components is here:
360= Weapons
120= Weapon Motors
60= Drive Motors
60= Batteries
56= Tribars
48= Extenders for weapons
26= Snapper II's
24= Wheels (Shiny Hubs)
4-8= Extenders for setup
4= Control Board
Hope that helps!
Sage
yeah, that what i thought too. i'll get a look when i get my computer fixed XD... (this is from a laptop)
one set of maces is okay. the other is off. (this is from memory XD) i'll rebuild that half of the bot from the ground up.
You should get ASAIthis
just use a t connector in the middle and itll free you up another extender to put weps on
The number one priority on a LW popup is to make it large and durable. Unlike some other bot types (namely horizontal spinners), popups benefit from having as large of a chassis as possible, mostly so that you can make the robot steeper. It also increases your chassis HP a fair bit. What you should do is focus your weight allowance less on what you have now and more on increasing your chassis size.
Also, tons of patience and chassis rebuilds.
Edit: Actually IIRC he used the more advanced snapper loading methods since there are 3 stacked snappers per side. So yeah, tons of patience in an understatement.
Hey that looks familiar,i´m gonna continue the kloning chainand coincidentally, with a similar naming style. Hmm...
The bot itself isn't too bad, but I would try to shrink that chassis up and get rid of that empty space. You could get a couple more weapons that way.
I think that's the best a LW HS can get without using a snapper.That's still quite subjective. CP4 can still deal more damage due to razors + Supervolt and it most probably the best all-rounder. LeVeL is slightly better against wedges, and then there's also the various stuff MRAS puts out. It's kinda hard to judge in the LW class where the damage and defensive potential of the bots are so low, but you kinda get the point.
And there is also my bot (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=6242.msg689245#msg689245) which is actually mentioned in his post. :PI think that's the best a LW HS can get without using a snapper.That's still quite subjective. CP4 can still deal more damage due to razors + Supervolt and it most probably the best all-rounder. LeVeL is slightly better against wedges, and then there's also the various stuff MRAS puts out. It's kinda hard to judge in the LW class where the damage and defensive potential of the bots are so low, but you kinda get the point.
Regardless, the bot's still nice.
I think that's the best a LW HS can get without using a snapper. The overall design reminds me of Child's Play IV; it would be interesting to see these bots go head-to-head.
DSA? right?
Razors are pretty bad on weapon-heavy HS like that, but otherwise it's pretty good.
a gutripper with razors and wedges!!!!
Name will be Ursa Major.
Well, I made this to kill time while I was getting suggestions. I'm gonna stack a 3rd black in there before I'm done. Name will be Ursa Major.Well that's what you get for using Snapper II wedges.
(BTW, the wedges are as good as EMERGENCY, in other words, pretty bad.)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/18227lol.jpg)
It may be a while before I'm active again. I have a lot of suggestions. XD
hammer with ramming wall(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14740The Shark Splash.jpg)
SnS/VS hybrid
gogogogo
what kind of made up crap is cruiserweight
Name will be Ursa Major.
>No bear claws
0/10
09 and nary are correct. i agree. i made this specifically for BOTM, so yeah. there will be a more competitive V2 SOMEtime. XDI guess it's sometime.
Chicken Drill. MW or higher. Hey, you asked. :P
On Tiberium you have enough weight to switch to HP-Zteks, and instead of using anchors just use the SnapperII to attach the weapons, you can get more and wider irons that way.
i don't see why you have the chassis so small on tiberium when you have another 13 kgs to make the chassis bigger because right now imo it doesn't look wide enough.Like I said, I added a pink, so that leaves 5 kgs, so maybe. :P I think that it's about as wide as the original tho.
Do me!k
I would question why it needs that much drive given it's an HS.Because I've got the need. The need... For Speed.
Evidently it works, though.It's an HS, it will naturally do quite well but the nature of this bot means you might as well have more weapons to beat other HS. Unless you're going for a fast, trappy style HS which would also require a different setup.
wedge looks too steep and the popup weapons look a bit to far spaced apartI don't know about the weapons, but I think the perspective makes the wedge look steep, sorry.
Lots of empty space there.That's what happens when you build to the max width. Kinda necessary for popups, so I've been told. :P
It's the same as all of my other popups, ~45 degrees.yeah that's too steep.
Ok, I'll take a look at shallower angles sometime here.It's the same as all of my other popups, ~45 degrees.yeah that's too steep.
you're wasting so much weight on zealot with those anchorsHow so? do you mean put it all on one anchor, or on the blue snapper?
Isn't hi5er's tournament heavyweight?It is, unless he means the challenge board challenge(but I think that one was LW?)
Whoop, thought it was MW. Anyway, I wanted to build a juggler and thought it was MW.Isn't hi5er's tournament heavyweight?It is, unless he means the challenge board challenge(but I think that one was LW?)
Isn't hi5er's tournament heavyweight?
Haven't tested the wedge, but yeah, wep reach is a tad shallow. :PIsn't hi5er's tournament heavyweight?
This :bigsmile:
How does it play out in testing, the weapon reach looks a little shallow and the wedges look a little narrow.
I feel like 2 blue snappers are super wasteful for a bot this tight on weight allowances. And you have weight for another razor as-is.b-but muh symmetry
I feel like 2 blue snappers are super wasteful for a bot this tight on weight allowances. And you have weight for another razor as-is.
edit: also popups are haram and you should be ashamed
all of the billy goats have bad wedges man. the hw has a bunch of motors on it's snappers, and if you're talking about the mw then that thing has it's wedgesI feel like 2 blue snappers are super wasteful for a bot this tight on weight allowances. And you have weight for another razor as-is.
edit: also popups are haram and you should be ashamed
I wish I COULD put that razor on. Stupid Ro7 rsnfrsnrsnfrsn...
Also, I thought it was SnS that were haram?
Anyway, did some testing on the wedges. As it turns out, this thing outwedges billy goat gruffiest. Hm.
edit: also popups are haram and you should be ashamed
bro you gotta get out of this habit you have of making the chassis wedge 45 degrees, it needs to be shallowerIt is a tad shallower than 45, though yeah, could be less. :P
Hhmmm seems like a pop up could get under it with ease.It's for Geice's tourney. Only a couple of bots can even BE popups, and even then, they can't have wedges. That also explains the chassis.
Ah ok thanks for reminding meHhmmm seems like a pop up could get under it with ease.It's for Geice's tourney. Only a couple of bots can even BE popups, and even then, they can't have wedges. That also explains the chassis.
you would save weight if the drive was staticI don't think that SnowJob's chassis can fit 3 hpz... Can it?
looks good, though you could probably attach everything using one snapper. is it invertible?Haven't tested invertibility.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80819af6e5f92bedd389cfc9c62c8c1451e34.png)you would save weight if the drive was staticI don't think that SnowJob's chassis can fit 3 hpz... Can it?
But I have BAs obstructing that. :P(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/80819af6e5f92bedd389cfc9c62c8c1451e34.png)you would save weight if the drive was staticI don't think that SnowJob's chassis can fit 3 hpz... Can it?
Also, how do people get shovels on these things?!
Also, how do people get shovels on these things?!
Do you see droves Middleweights of with 180kgs of weaponry and a plow?
it is an impressive stack. im not sure where your weight has gone but if you can get hpzs do so. you only need one black, i'm not sure if you have one or two
The wedges will be pretty bad with the single motor
Steep wedge and not much weaponry means it won't be a very good bot, the only way its gonna get kills is by outwedging a popup. And the single spinner means that it'll just push bots off the top instead of juggling them. Maybe try having 2 spinners on RADs or redbirds instead?I'll take a look at that. I'm not that good at jugglers, this is my second. XD
needs to be w i d e r
needs to be w i d e r
Alright, to collect this stuff in advance, I'd like to rebuild some first bots, bttb style. Anyone wanna give me a request? If not, I'll probably just do someone random lol