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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: Rolo on February 11, 2010, 02:03:28 PM
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Been years before I built a bot, so yea, I probably missed out on years of innovation.
Please leave a comment.
(http://upurs.us/image/10810.jpeg)
Any ideas on what to do with the remaining weight?
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Perhaps stack in a black battery to each current one?
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Oh yeah, forgot to tell you guys. I'm not a stacking batteries person.
Why, I hear you ask?
Because it takes patience.
EDIT: That gives me an idea. How about making a pre-stacked battery component? Just a regular Supervolt, but with double power and double weight?
Or has it been thought of and done in my abcense?
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ClickBeetle made one.
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See if you can get castor armor on the bottom for the extra weight.
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tried it, but it cleared my wheels off the floor..Would it work with bigger wheels?
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Probably if you upgraded to grannies.
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I would put something up to guard those horribly exposed HPZs.
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Four wheel drive, flip the snappers for wedges. If still underweight, then switch to rubbers. Also, widen your drive. Might wanna remove the top snowplow for weight if you need it.
And don't put castors on the bottom like LDL said. It's bad for the wedges.
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EDIT: That gives me an idea. How about making a pre-stacked battery component? Just a regular Supervolt, but with double power and double weight?
Or has it been thought of and done in my abcense?
[shameless plug]That battery you describe is in the BBEANS AI Pack. Also, you can win it as a prize in BBEANS6 and then it will be tournament-legal for all future BBEANS.[/shameless plug]
The VS looks good, interesting use of the plow to keep bots from flying over and behind it. I don't see that much on VS's. With the extra weight, I would try to get 4WD and/or extra armor.
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WANT
Yea, the bot was first tested without that plow (even more underweight yep) but I found that when I got under a good-wedged bot like Waterbug, it would sometimes throw it over its top before killing the chassis, giving NW time to turn and give me another hard time getting under it (Because I suck at wedges).
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WANT
What, BBEANS AI?
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the battery
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Well, it's in the BBEANS pack, that also has Nobody Nose in it. http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/files/bbeans_ai.rar (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/files/bbeans_ai.rar)
If you just want the batt, give me a few mins and I'll get it to you.
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Wow, Nobody Nose is featured in an AI pack? Oh sweet memories
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Yep. It has every BBEANS 1, 3 and 5 bot, as well as 25 other withdrawn/illegal/too late/updated bots
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Is there an explanation somewhere on why the bots were refused?
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Yes, for some of them, one moment: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2467.msg65421.html
Down near the bottom of Click's first post, from Team Wild Animals downwards.
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(http://upurs.us/image/10832.jpeg)
HOT DAMN IT
Also, new bot, probably been done before, but never seen it.
Thought of it when I went fuuuu because I couldn't manage to stack black batteries within 2 minutes once again, a powerless bot!
It's called Mutant:
(http://upurs.us/image/10833.jpeg)
Forgot to arm 1 of the top 4 servo's at all, that's why it magically remains within weight restriction, might make an SHW verson of it with heckuvalotmore servo's and probably iron spikes
It actually does a lot better in combat than I expected (just not in tournament low wall arena's because it just walks over the walls when given the slightest push([small]actually I just tried this when I didn't rig the controls to be able to spin both ways, might try it again sometime)[/small]).
One of the few robots that actually likes being on top and getting smacked into arena walls, because it helps getting on top of the opponent and start chewing its upside
(http://upurs.us/image/10834.jpeg)
My tactic of waiting for AI to run into it and commit suicide stops working when the opponent gets partially immobile, so this was kind of a boring match, waiting for the timer to run out and win by points.
It is far from invincible though:
(http://[url=http://upurs.us/view/10835]http://upurs.us/thumb/10835.jpeg[IMG]http://upurs.us/image/10835.jpeg[/url])(http://upurs.us/image/10835.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/10835)
Can't find Mutant? It's on that pic!
Took tommy gun some time to finish me off though, most of the times he approached me after some servo's got kicked off, either one of us started flinging around at will due to a Havok explosion.
It's a real pain in the ass to control though. I sometimes have to switch between holding space and holding z when one of its noodly appendages get stuck or when I'm flipped over.
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That looks quite chaotic. I like it ( go razor tips)
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in the last pic, i looks kind of... outweaponed?
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Not really outweaponed, but Tommy Gun was at the right place at the right time. Kinda looks like a controllable version of eFFe's Wildcard. Try a version using the lightest servos and you could attach more weapons. Not sure if it's that controllable, though.
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@powerrave
For some reason, I was still holding the space button. But it was kinda like trying to thundershock Onix, or reasoning with a female: No effect whatsoever but worth the try.
EDIT: @Pwnator
Nah, it's not controlled.. I tried rigging the controls to be able to semi-walk to immobile opponents, but no success. It's probably possible when you got a sh**load of time and patience on your hands, but not for me.
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...kinda like trying to thundershock Onix...
My new favourite quote XD
Bot looks really fun too - chaotic, as DK said.
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Hey guys, meet Rakem
(http://upurs.us/image/10909.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/10909)
As you can see, took me like 20 mins to build this thing, and maybe another 10 to tweak after a couple of fights, but I had an idea and it worked out perfectly.
It beat 90% of Starcore LW's first try.
Pro's:
Immensely durable weapon rake (6 iron spikes, 4 razor tips)
Plain awesome
Invertible drive
Plenty of power
Actually realistic
Cons:
2 Reversible angle's drive, so slow as sh**, and really boring matches when facing an opponent with stronger drivetrain
Doesn't like getting f'd in the a, no armor over there
'Yea, sure, this thing can consistently beat the starcore lightweight spinners'
Yep, it can, it just takes some tactical driving though. First, determine which way the opponent is spinning. Then, just make a hit on the side of the oncoming weapon.
Reapeat until it loses a weapon
Stand back and look at your opponent getting horribly out of control
Roll a cigarette
Keep ramming until opponents chassis is exposed
Ram it's chassis a couple times
???
Profit
'OK OK, donkey face, but this thing is no match for starcore v3's lw popups'
If it was AI'd it, probably wouldn't have been, but due to extremely durable weaponing, I can afford to drive up opposing popups slowly while waiting for their weapon system to commit suicide on my spike rake, then once broke loose, it's an easy fight.
'I'm still not impressed by your bot'
Neither am I. It just did a lot better in combat than I expected when I built it.
It's durability seems to be the key. While most starcore v3's lw bots were built to deal a lot of damage fast, this one was built to remain armed after a series of big hits. I admit it's a boring design and makes for boring matches, but it's very effective.
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Yea, I agree that most bots are much better when driven tactically (i wish RA2 online was lag free, make everything so much more fun) but usually we try to judge bots on how they would do AIed because you are fighting AIed bots, making it an unfair fight.
I dont see the point of the overly large chassis either.
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Yea, I agree that most bots are much better when driven tactically (i wish RA2 online was lag free, make everything so much more fun) but usually we try to judge bots on how they would do AIed because you are fighting AIed bots, making it an unfair fight.
I dont see the point of the overly large chassis either.
This chassis was originally going to be used to make a face spinner, but I didn't get it the way I wanted it, but I already got the reversible angles to fit inside nicely. I didn't feel like scrapping the outline just because I only had to fit in an anchor instead of a ztek. This just came to my mind and it was built in a couple minutes.
EDIT: Yep, I'm a lazy son of a bitch.
EDIT 2: Unfair fight my ass. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
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No such thing as Artificial Intelligence. Why? No Artificial Stupidity.
But in honest opinions, you can get a better rack on that baby.
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Way too slow for my taste.
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Way too slow for my taste.
*Refrains from making obvious yo momma joke*
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not many people use T-connectors these days
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not many people use T-connectors these days
False. A lot of modern rammers and pokers still use them.
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*insert ragetoon here*
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*insert ragetoon here*
No, don't, keep your 4chan out of my showcase, for god's sake
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I think I like Rolo :D
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I hate the Ragetoon.
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Inb4 the want-to-be-funny failing 12 year old comedian who is going to post it anyway.
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Umm, guys?
(http://upurs.us/image/10940.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/10940)
Just wanted to let you know this is still fun
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Emty Space!!!!
No seriously, what happend?
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Just built a sheet of paper
Contrary to popular belief, it can not beat rock.
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100% no BFE?
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What has that got to do with anything?
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100% no BFE?
It is, but it's still fun.
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Tournaments
N00b Warz 3 - Ecam - Pit in R1
TAR - Team FedEx - Entered
IRL - Loanerbot Ballot
CC3 - 100% No BFE - (0-1)
WTT (Hosted) - Minifridge the Second - 2nd - (5-1)
RWW - Disc-O-Inferno - Joint 7th
US v. UK - Hypno-Disc - Entered
The Game
FRA - Tripp3R - Entered
Terror Twisters - TrippeR 6 - Entered
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make a scissor and a stone bot and use them as cluster :P
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OH GOD ITS DAH APOKOLIPZ
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Heh, I remember this from the old forums. I never actually played around with it, but it seems cool.
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please tell me how to do that.
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The chassis height was edited in the .bot file using Notepad++. Disclaimer: Do not use regular notepad for this! It will corrupt the botfile!
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were do I get ++ and what do I edit?
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were do I get ++ and what do I edit?
google, and I can't tell you what to edit, because you wouldn't learn from it that way, but here's a little hint:
Just see whatever changes in the .bot file when altering the height of a bot.
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Hey Rolo, could you post an inside pic of Nobody Nose? I'm curious.
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Read my sig. I don't think paper beats rock :P
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Hey Rolo, could you post an inside pic of Nobody Nose? I'm curious.
That was the one bot that took me hardly any time to make.
IIRC, I actually snapped the chassis to grid (not sure about that though), but I'll see what I can do for you
EDIT:
(http://upurs.us/image/10952.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/10952)
There you go
Actually not snapped to grid and built in a hurry. Didn't want to lose with a bot I spent hours on I guess; can't believe it still did decent
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Read my sig. I don't think paper beats rock :P
What are you talking about?
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Do you know of any easy NP++ Downloads? all the others are to complicated for me lol.
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Paper beats rock? Ok, I'll throw a rock at you and you defend yourself with paper.
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Do you know of any easy NP++ Downloads? all the others are to complicated for me lol.
You're on Vista, right?
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yeh
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yeh
http://sourceforge.net/projects/notepad-plus/files/notepad%2B%2B%20releases%20binary/npp%205.6.6%20bin/npp.5.6.6.Installer.exe/download
There you go
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be a good boy sparkeys and thank Rolo
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thanks!
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@Natef:
If you didn't notice, I edited my post with an inside pic of Nobody Nose. Hope you are not disappoint.
@Sparkey98
You're welcome
@Doomkiller
Yea, found this omegle conversation around the interwebs some time ago. Laughed out loud and saved right away.
(http://upurs.us/thumb/10953.jpeg)
(http://upurs.us/view/10953)
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Hahahahah, that's awsome. Nice
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I'm so gona try that now (punching someone).
I think that if Nobody Nose had had better armor it could've gone farther.
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IIRC, it lost to Event Horizon, which was basically too low for me to hit properly anyway
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IMO, I don't think that you would've had a chance against Event Horizon anyways.
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Sorry for double posting, but I felt like it was OK to bump my thread, new bot, it's named Pretty Cool Guy [EDIT: I'll just remove the post above, it's nothing important anyway]
(http://upurs.us/image/11157.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/11157)
because I think it's a pretty cool guy. Eh kills bots and doesn't afraid of anything (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Pretty_cool_guy).
Far from finished, it's a very generic popup design, but with the best wedge I ever made - first bot I built that has better wedges than NWB, thanks to Clickbeetle's old Mythbuster thread, and my idea to put a spike strip into a ram plate for both damage purposes and heaviness up front.
It also uses 3 10kg ballasts up front to improve the wedge
(http://upurs.us/image/11158.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/11158)
The awesomeness in this bot is where you see 4 razor tips, I see 18. No BFE, AAM, anything, just the Francesco glitch (did you know eFFe's real name is Francesco, his surname starts with an M and eFFeeMMe is basically what FM sounds in Italian? Fun fact!)
18 razor tips, 2 stacked black batts (Spent more time stacking the batteries than actually building the rest of the bot, can't we just ban stacked batteries?), spike strips Francesco'd inside the ram plates, DSA armor
Any ideas on what to do with the remaining weight, without altering the effectiveness of the wedges?
Oh, yeah, and I know about the wasted space, especially around the driving motors, but when an idea pops into my mind, I want to start building right away instead of spending ages to fit in the motors exactly.
Some battle shots:
(http://upurs.us/image/11159.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/11159)
(http://upurs.us/image/11160.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/11160)
(http://upurs.us/image/11161.jpeg) (http://upurs.us/view/11161)
It has the ability to one-hit KO when all spikes hit the chassis, but most of the time 2 or 3 hits are needed, and because Warlock is so heavy, it took me about 6 or 7 shots to relegate him to dead weight regions.
(Did you know that when I KO a fellow popup, 10% of the times the final blow comes from the armed wedges? Fun fact!)
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Use blades instead of ramplates.
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Use blades instead of ramplates.
Good statement:
You should probably use blades instead of ram plates, because [insert reasons here]
sh**ty statement:
Use blades instead of ram plates.
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Because they protect the wedge extenders for less weight and taking up less space.
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I kinda like the idea of them weighing down my wedges, for increased wedge effectivity, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe ram plates have far more hit points than blades
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They are much better at protecting your wedges. Blades really don't do much, in all honesty.
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Oh, well that's my information wrong.
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@ Sage, it kinda ruins the point of a wedge though when there's something blocking it. Using the chassis to stack weight on works easily as well. I never really liked blades anyways, I'd only use them whens there's virtually no other way to invest my weight since I don't see exactly how it protects the extenders.
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It isn't blocking the wedge. The wedge still gets under, because the Ramplate isn't doing anything to stop the wedge on the end.
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@ Sage, it kinda ruins the point of a wedge though when there's something blocking it. Using the chassis to stack weight on works easily as well. I never really liked blades anyways, I'd only use them whens there's virtually no other way to invest my weight since I don't see exactly how it protects the extenders.
True, the way he has it it does kinda block the wedge, but if he moved it back a bit it would be fine.
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@ Sage, it kinda ruins the point of a wedge though when there's something blocking it. Using the chassis to stack weight on works easily as well. I never really liked blades anyways, I'd only use them whens there's virtually no other way to invest my weight since I don't see exactly how it protects the extenders.
True, the way he has it it does kinda block the wedge, but if he moved it back a bit it would be fine.
Whoa, you should see it in action. At first I thought bots would get their wedges stuck between my wedge and my ram plate, but both slide right under. The ram plate doesn't interefere at all.
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Well, if it works, fantastic.
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Good bot.
Regarding what to do with the extra weight without affecting the wedge:
You can add some ramplates to the front for chassis armor. There should be room for a baseplate anchor somewhere in there (try shifting around the ballasts).
Also, 18 razors is a little overkill. You can really only stack about 4 or 5 razors in one spot before damage reaches a plateau. I would recommend spreading the razors out in a row a bit, or cut down to 8 or 10. Both options will save some weight for extra armor in front, which will help against spinners.
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Also, 18 razors is a little overkill. You can really only stack about 4 or 5 razors in one spot before damage reaches a plateau
Don't you mean on one DDT? I guess you do, as now I have only 4 or 5 razors per spot, 9 per DDT.
and nope, there is literally no room for a baseplate anchor in the front, I tried but failed (and no, I am NOT removing those stacked batteries), but yes I will rebuild the chassis someday. Just not today.
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Never should've used upurs. Anyone has any idea whether goose made a backup for hosted content anywhere?