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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: Roboquad on July 13, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
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Following advise, I decided to start a showcase.
Note: I've been lurking the forums and building since about the start of BBEANS5, but never registered.
Introducing my Doomed bots entry Bermuda Peril!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/44264bot1out.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64344bot1in.JPG)
DSA, 2 Blacks, 4 razors and everything else is on show.
Opinions? Thoughts?
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Excellent.
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very well made in my opinion
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YAY a new member! WOOHOO!
As for the bot, very well built. Bring the razors farther back and reverse the DDTs so that the razors are wider (turn each DDT 180 degrees).
Get rid of the smartzone and download the Madiaba smartzones from the download page.
You could completely rebuild it like this:
Spin the black battery 90 degrees and stack the other one inside of it. Bring in the hpzteks because the one black is skinnier than the two. (This means also make a new chassis). Axle glitch or snapper load the two snapper2s so you can fit the DDTs inside the skinnier chassis.
I know it's a little hard to follow, but if you can do it I will be very impressed.
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Wow, MUCH better than most newbies first bots. Its has great drive, correct weapons, the right weapon motors, you even built to the weight limit. Impressed.
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Your popup is already better than my MW popup. The only thing is I have stacked blacks.
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After reading sage's advice (and lerning what what he ment by snaper loading) and then fiddling with the bot for ages, heres the revised verson
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/93211bot2out.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40207bot2in.JPG)
It's basicly the same as the last one, only more compact and with rubbers.
Is there anything else I can do to this? All I can think of is to move the DDT's back slightly.
Do I get "the best newbe EV0R" award now?:grin:
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Mhm, move the ddts back and turn the razors around so the flat side is hitting the other bot, then it will be perfect. nice work.
oh, forgot to say you still have to rotate the start position on the ddts back. its way too far forward.
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Hide the Razors inside the chassis.
EDIT: I just noticed how the control board is behind the batteries. You still have some chassis space that could shed off a couple of kilos.
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NOOO RUBBERRZZZZ. I'd say use some hubs, then you got some extra weight to use.
But, for someone new, those bots are outstandingly good.
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NOOO RUBBERRZZZZ. I'd say use some hubs, then you got some extra weight to use.
But, for someone new, those bots are outstandingly good.
RUBBERZZZZ ARE GOOD ON POPUPS CRAAAAAAIG.
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Don't listen to Craig. He has no idea what he's talking about.
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Rubbers are good for anything with a wedge.
Anyways about the bot, it's really nice (i could say it's very good for a newcomer, but you lurked a few months).
I had something very similar - Imperial Faction with rubbers ftw.
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OKAYZZZZ i just hate rubbers :P sorreh.
Ugleh wheels.
But you say I have no idea what I'm talking about, yet I say the bots are good?
'Kay. :P
In fact I'ma stop editing this post and just STFU.
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OKAYZZZZ i just hate rubbers :P sorreh.
Ugleh wheels.
But you say I have no idea what I'm talking about, yet I say the bots are good?
'Kay. :P
In fact I'ma stop editing this post and just STFU.
When i said you have no idea what you were talking about, I mean the advice. Any newb can come and see a good bot and be like "omg that bot is pwnzers but why don't you use square extenders thay has more health."
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I know about the extenders. I like to think I'm pretty knowledged on most of that stuff - I just don't know about the rubbers on popups cos I don't build popups.
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told ya roboquad that they would like ur bot. U can still change ur entry to the new bermua peril if u want to
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Try to make the chassis more shallow, as it's too steep.
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<3
Great first bots.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58350bot3out.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20041bot3in.JPG)
HW VS (obviously)
DSA, Chained HPZ weapon, 8 irons, 2 blacks + a niftty:ermm:
Beat RPB on it's first try (in the BBEANS arena v2 and human driven though)
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Overpowered, back rubbers exposed and thats it.
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Rubbers good.
Perfectly powered.
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For linking the motors, use red or black extenders.
I would remove the nifty as it is overpowering the bot unless those snappers are for flipping.
Also, shrink the chassis so the gap that removing the nifty creates is gone.
As an added bonus, use Snapper II's (the big blue ones) to attach the wedge and attach the weapon making it even FASTER!
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Roboquad, don't listed to life RA2, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Overpowered, back rubbers exposed and thats it.
Are you TRYING to give bad advice?!?!?
IF anything, it is UNDERPOWERED. Nothing AIed is going to flank it.
GTFO THIS F***ING SITE UNTIL YOU KNOW WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
/rant
Thats a good bot Roboquad, but like S32 said, use the extenders. If the disks intersect, there is a way to fix that.
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I think you should learn how to axle load if you don't know already. It would allow you to use round extenders instead, saving about 6 kg for longer wedges. Also, turn your snappers around, so the wedges are further apart.
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Updated verson
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57058bot4out.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94691bot4in.JPG)
Has DSA as always
I'm not sure about the ice picks...:ermm:
The wedges don't flip, so 2 balcks are fine right?
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Yep. And ice picks have normals, meaning they only cause damage at the tips, so they're not really ideal for this design.
Try using a smaller disc and lower motors and test if you can have weight for irons.
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Remove the ice picks and mabye stack a third Black in. 8 HPZteks is one heck of a strain on only two batteries.
Also, I think larger disks = higher tip speed = better for this bot, so I don't think doing what Pwn said would be best, although you could try it on a different version.
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2 blacks can easily power 8 HPZ's for three minutes!
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But 3 Blacks would be better.
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Still a waste that could be spent on something better.
What would you rather be in control of? a bot that can last 2 minutes longer, or a bot hat can spend the time it's powered ripping his opponent to shreds?
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Rubbers good.
Perfectly powered.
*Sigh*
if i was to ram the SW rubber id charge from its SW position.
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*Sigh*
if i was to ram the Star Wars rubber id charge from its Star Wars position.
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*Sigh*
if i was to ram the SW rubber id charge from its SW position.
WTF?
I have been here much longer than you have LRA2. I know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, but most bot's don't attack from the side.
Unless they use Plow AI.
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WTF?
I have been here much longer than you have LRA2. I know what I'm talking about.
I think many people here have told the new guys never to listen to you. Scrap Daddy especially.
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However, when given the choice, one should listen to Ribbs over LRA2.
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But generally you have the choice not to listen to both...
And yes, 3 blacks is better.
As well as a square chassis (rather than a U-chassis) methinks.
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??
SW: South West.
Off-topic.
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4-wheel drive is too fast for a big chained VS, in my opinion. That weapon system isn't really built for charging and pinning bots. Plus your bot is going to gyro dance any time you try turning at full throttle.
If you're using 4WD, I think it's better to use regular non-chained weapon motors, so they're less likely to stop and get stuck when you're pinning bots.
But it's a well built bot anyways. You have good technique. If anything, 4WD at least makes it original.
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:!:WARNING:!:: The following bot contains extreme lack of orignality.
(Scroll down to view)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84956screenshot.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75741screenshot_1.JPG)
2 blacks, DSA, 36 maces on 4 HPZs (you probably knew all of this though)
Named after swine flu in case you were wondering.
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Empty spac-OINK OINK OIIIIIIIINK O GOD SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Decent first atttempt. Kinda sloppy though. you should bring in those corners by the snappers.
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I know there's empty space, but if I bring the corners by the snapers in, then I have to move the others out (because then there's not enough room for the drive) meaning I don't get anymore weight. (sorry if I didn't make any sense)
Unless you mean add more points on the chassis, which might increace the weight, because of the weight being calulated by surface area not volume. I'l try this and see if it makes any differance, it will look less noobish anyways.
While I'm posting does any one know where I can get the mesh viewer? The one on the bettlebros site is down.
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If you increase points on the chassis to remove the space it will get lighter. The area on the side will remain the same, but the you will loose some on the top/bottom. If it's worth the work is up to you. Might be able to add a caster or two.
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It's better to learn from using vertical Maces first, then change to horizontal so you have extra weight to add anything else.
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I know there's empty space, but if I bring the corners by the snapers in, then I have to move the others out (because then there's not enough room for the drive) meaning I don't get anymore weight. (sorry if I didn't make any sense)
Unless you mean add more points on the chassis, which might increace the weight, because of the weight being calulated by surface area not volume. I'l try this and see if it makes any differance, it will look less noobish anyways.
While I'm posting does any one know where I can get the mesh viewer? The one on the bettlebros site is down.
Press f12.
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Not that. He doesn't want to use the game to view the meshes. :P
I use Serge's one (still in beta, but it does the basics. WASD to move). Here. :D
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21211
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Teh Genetic
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41272screenshot.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31211screenshot_1.JPG)
Both have DSA, 2 blacks, HPZ drive/weapons and 36 maces/irons
Guess which one wins in a fight.
:arrow:The mace one
Now guess the setup.
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Top one. Maces always beat irons.
And the setup: You have two blue snappers, one on each side of your batteries, both on the side attachment point, facing what I'm assuming is the front of your bot. You then have extenders coming off of the main attachment point, with their attachment points facing the front again. You have two weapon systems on each extender. For the drive, you have a longer extender facing sideways off of the snapper's hidden attachment point, with the HPZteks mounted off of their bottom attachment point.
Cool setup, but from my experience you should have a hard time driving smoothly with your drive mounted the way it is. When the HPZtek is facing the direction you have it, the wheel will have a hard time contacting the ground.
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you should try and get the flat sides of the Drive motors parallel to the chassis. It will drive a ton better.
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Darn roboshark, i had it figured out, i go to the next page to post, and there you are telling the setup ><.
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That's actually not quite right Roboshark, so here's an inside shot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62627screenshot_2.JPG)
If I ever rebiuld it, i'll rotate the drive motors 90 degrees and remove the (small amount of) empty space (not visible in the pic)
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OH OH i know it!
just 2 20cms pointing inwards, the drive on the end of it, and 2 weapon motors on the 2 side attachment points. very weight effective setup, cept for your chassis. It's bigger than the average 36hs.
That was what i had in mind before i saw robos post, but then i went and looked back at the bot and didnt see the snapper axles pointing out the sides... didn't occur to me they were inside the wheels!
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Ah, very nicely done. I just assumed that it was the way I thought it was from the position of the drive motors. Also, if you minimize the empty space in the chassis, you should be able to fit granny wheels on.
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Nice setup. :D
I think AC's snapper setup uses less chassis weight. Try your 2-extender setup on that and maybe you'll have enough weight for something else (like R0B0 said, maybe slippers).
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yes sage that's right (i knew it would be easy once you saw the inside)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69819screenshot_3.JPG)(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/497screenshot_5.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/60500screenshot_4.JPG)
Very powerful HW popup (often gets hits around 1500/2000 or more), 12 razors on 4 DTT's, 4 blacks, rubbers
The razors start inside the oppsite DTT and then filp out "through" each other.
Yes there's empty space and I think it's one notch to high, with the extra weight I'd make the wedges longer, but I can't be bothered right now.
Open for any (good) suggestions, especially about the ram plates (sometimes other wedges get stuck between them) and do you think I should get SCV4
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Get all the razors facing like the top right one. Flat side = larger surface area = bigger hits!
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you could probably use 2 blue snappers just to fit all the snappers closer together and still save weight.
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Get all the razors facing like the top right one. Flat side = larger surface area = bigger hits!
Actually the only set of razors that are the worng way round are the front left ones (this is now fixed). I explained why when I posted the bot, but maybe a pic will show this better
Before firing
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/69403screenshot_6.JPG)
After firing
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76198screenshot_7.JPG)
It's very good at hitting small chassis.
Still asking if i should get SCv4
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I think so.
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OK i've got it, enjoying the chalange again.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1639BP2 splash.JPG)
Half of my RAW2 entry, with a 50% shalower chasies wedge at the cost of downgrading to shinys, but the longer wedges make it about as good.
It's my first splash, (made with paint lol) so what do you think?
Also can someone tell me which MW has the best wedges in SC4? thanks in advance.
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mmmm, theres no MW that has really superior wedges in SC4. Billy Goat Gruffier has good wedges though...
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IT DOES?!?! IMO the wedges stink bad.
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that's the fun thing about RA2, there is no Superior bot. A LW could cream PYS AI HS but never last any match with an RFS bot without getting TKO'ed.
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A LW could cream PYS AI HS
Are you speaking from experience? Because I'd VERY much like to see a LW that can do that...
Oh, and that's a good popup there. Clever use of the increased weight limit to extend the wedge.
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I don't think a chained VS has ever been made like this before (atleast i've never seen one)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16608screenshot.JPG)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57229screenshot_1.JPG)
24 Irons, 2 Blacks, DSA, ...bah bah
The motors in the image above look out of line, but I've never had any problems before. Paint job was a 2 min thing.
I'm off to test it now.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58837EradicatiVe.PNG)
How are the wedges? Mine aren't too good. You see to have more weapons and I have 4wd.
LOL how close they are. :P
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I like your VS.