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Title: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on July 23, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
Hello and good evening to you.

Have you seen this "rnifnuf" n00b? That guy thinks that he's better than to build in stock.

He's not.

First off, a VS. And guess what:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14511Ripblade 2X.png)
Surprise. It's Ripblade 2X.

This was literally built off of the chassis of the original Ripblade.

Yes, armor is still Titanium. Can someone please provide the Scrapper's font for me so I can change the armor to DSA and re-skin R2X?

Most of the first bots in this showcase will be remakes of stock AI bots. Deal with it... please?

Absolutely unbeatable... by stock AI standards.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: boombabyboom on July 23, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
oh were do i get started 

bad wheel choice
dont use square extenders
big chassis

read this
http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)

and download SCv3 it will help alot
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on July 23, 2013, 01:16:09 AM
Actually, Stock AI bots have double strength armour too, so right now you have double strength titanium.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 02, 2013, 04:15:01 PM
Good evening once more.

[warning]WARNING: What you are about to see is a laughably bad 36HS I built. But hey, I built it anyways.[/warning]
Please try not to laugh too hard at it.

I wanted to make a 36HS that was different from the rest. So I used 30cm pole spikes because I am smitten with the stock 30cm pole spikes. For 1kg more, you can have a razor with double HP. The only two reasons you may not see them on one of my bots are:
OR

This is one of few bots that allowed me to stack the supervolts without hesitation.. The other one is a MW hammer called Hammerfist that is--you probably guessed it--the basis for Slammerfist.

As per usual, objects to whack me with are in the front lobby if so desired.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Kossokei on August 02, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
1. why the christ aren't you using dsa? Don't tell me you don't have enough weight.
2. pole. spikes. have. normals*. and. are. horrible. for. this.

Normals: Normals on a weapon are the areas that the weapon does damage. Otherwise, the weapon will not do damage if it hits somewhere other than where the normals are. For instance, you will achieve nothing by slamming the flat part of a saw onto something, because the normals are on the circumference of the disk. Pole spikes have 1 normal; on the very tip, which means if you don't ram that tip specifically into something, it does nothing. Which is why pole spikes are horrible for this application. Use razors. Razors have no normals, maces have no normals iirc, and iron spikes have no normals iirc.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on August 02, 2013, 04:29:41 PM
Pole spikes are rather bad do to the fact that they can only do damage at the very tip of the spike. Instead just use bear claws or maces (razors and irons are pretty awful on HS is most cares IMO). Anyways, you don't need to stack the razors on, you can just eFFe them on (there is an example to it in the link boombabyboom posted earlier). You can easily fit all the motors on 2 snapper with eFFeing btw.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 17, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
Well, back to the old drawing board for the worst 36HS.

In the mean time, here is a MW Popup I made:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25679Stripes 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

This is a MW popup called "Dell Stripes," after my laptop (did I mention that I am in Hawaii as of typing this?) screwed up the chassis texture and left blue stripes all over it (don't ask me how that happened).

It was originally an experiment to test how well axe heads worked on popups. It was pretty good, although I switched to irons after I realized that axe heads have normals, and thus, aren't as effective as I hoped for popups.

It has two pinks instead of one Nifty because there wasn't enough chassis space for the Nifty. It really wasn't what I wanted.

The snapper wedges double as a srimech or flipper, BTW. Also, the irons are normally concealed in the chassis.

Clearly not the best bot in the world, but it is probably the best thing I have built in stock.

 :thumbup Fast and wedgy, powerful weapons, can self-right.
 :thumbdown Exposed chassis, slightly underpowered.

Also, congratulations to 090901 for earning Veteran status   :mrgreen:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: ty4er on August 17, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
irons on popups kinda suck, razors are best for them.

i think this bot would be pretty cool if it was a wammer/popup with those irons on baseplate anchors/extenders and having razors on the ddt (which you could probably downgrade to a snapper). then you can make the chassis a bit taller and have the snappers on the end ap so they stand up, which would let you have a nifty aswell. you can probably make the chassis a bit smaller after that aswell (or just make the wedge steeper)

Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 19, 2013, 04:48:11 AM
Building on Dell Stripes...

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8332Dell Stripes 2.png)
Armor is still DSA.

I decided to downgrade the snapper2s to the blue snappers to save some weight. The weight saved was used to add two more pink batteries (They are stacked). Then, I replaced the irons with Bear Claws, all elegantly eFFed on black extenders.

This isn't as wedgy as I hoped, though it is still okay.

Thoughts?

Coming soon: A better 36HS than the one I showcased earlier. Speaking of the worst 36HS...

1. why the christ aren't you using dsa? Don't tell me you don't have enough weight.

I tried using DSA on Worst 36HS... it weighed 802 kgs T_T
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Lemonism on August 19, 2013, 06:09:10 AM
So there are 4 pinks in there now? Each pink weighs 8kg, so 4 of them is 32kg, when a black battery is only 30, so stacking another black would be a better idea. Also I'm pretty sure that putting that many bear claws on one ddt will actually decrease damage, because it won't fire as fast (correct me if I'm wrong).
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 19, 2013, 06:11:00 AM
razors are best for popups
You may also remove some weapons 4-6 razors are enough for a MW popup
Also get some armor ramplates are best but you can use casters as well
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 20, 2013, 01:29:38 AM
How about...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/54412Dell Stripes 3.png)
NOW!? Armor is still DSA.

The supervolts were surprisingly cooperative when being stacked. I was pleased with this game AND my laptop for not crashing at all on this trip so far. Thanks to Lemonism for reminding me that one supervolt provides more power than four pinks.

I used some weight saved for a ramplate. The rest of the weight saved was used for the anchor that holds the ramplate  :laughing

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on August 20, 2013, 09:53:15 AM
good job stacking the blacks, but this robot doesnt need 2 blacks stacked actually, 1 black will easily give it enough power to last. you could instead use the weight on another ramplate and longer wedges.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Badnik96 on August 20, 2013, 01:49:52 PM
SnapperIIs don't make the best wedges, i'd suggest upgrading to Snapper2s if you can.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on August 20, 2013, 05:46:12 PM
SnapperIIs don't make the best wedges, i'd suggest upgrading to Snapper2s if you can.
This is not true, my best mw popup wedges come from blue snappers.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 20, 2013, 09:34:50 PM
UPDATE! On Dell Stripes.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/96570Dell Stripes 4.png)

I unstacked the supervolts and used the remaining one for something else ;)
Those ramplates are on 20cm extenders.
The wedges are now 60cm long.
In this picture, both the DDT and the two SIIs are fired. I may not be the best RA2 builder ever, but I'm good enough to not put the wedges in that position by default.

 :thumbup Destructive, armored front, fast, considerably wedgy, thinks that congress is full of crap.
 :thumbdown Exposed sides, a bit underpowered, razors are too freakin' fragile, Severe issues self-righting

Thoughts?

Also coming soon: An inquisitive LW VS that I just built. It likes to axe questions and get the answers by force.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on August 21, 2013, 03:23:23 AM
is it me or is it asymmetrical?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on August 21, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
Judging by the positions of the razors, it's symmetrical.

Protip: Don't use SIIs for srimech. The weapon burst can do that adequately, and it deals damage more consistently if all the razors are rotated the same way.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 21, 2013, 03:54:15 AM
How about...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/54412Dell Stripes 3.png)
NOW!? Armor is still DSA.

The supervolts were surprisingly cooperative when being stacked. I was pleased with this game AND my laptop for not crashing at all on this trip so far. Thanks to Lemonism for reminding me that one supervolt provides more power than four pinks.

I used some weight saved for a ramplate. The rest of the weight saved was used for the anchor that holds the ramplate  :laughing

Thoughts?
oh hi exterminatus
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on August 21, 2013, 04:06:31 AM
oh hi exterminatus
> implying most baseplate popup designs are novel and creative
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on August 21, 2013, 04:46:16 AM
oh hi exterminatus
> implying most baseplate popup designs are novel and creative
> implying jonzu didn't cloned exterminatus from another similar design
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Jonzu95 on August 21, 2013, 05:00:38 AM
Well it just looks like exterminatus...
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 21, 2013, 05:41:19 AM
Back on topic (assuming we were off-topic)...

I made slight modifications to Dell Stripes. I shortened to 40cm (as opposed to 60) because if the wedges were 60cm long, then DS couldn't self-right to save a dying kitten. And so, the wedges shall remain 40cm long until I think of a way to lengthen the wedges and keep it self-righteous and a dying kitten is saved :smile:
Quote from: Someone on this forum probably thought this
You are a liar. That skin is just fine. Your laptop had nothing to do with these supposed blue stripes.

I am not a liar! Want proof? Here is a view of Dell Stripes from the outside:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92327Dell Stripes Skin Pic 1.png)
I told you my laptop screwed up the skin. See, I am an honest and trustworthy person. In its defense, this thing was up in the stratosphere for five hours and originally had Windows Vista on it.

Also, just in case you wanted to see/download it:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/34088Dell Stripes Texture.png)
This is the skin file used by Dell Stripes, converted into a PNG for your convenience. It looks really freaking freaky if you look at it from the right angle and zoom level.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: ty4er on August 21, 2013, 06:21:42 AM
see if you can put the ramplates on seperate baseplate anchors and try to get them further to the sides
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 21, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
I already tried that, ty4er, and it didn't work T_T

What I am going to try instead is turn the 20cm extenders that the ramplates are mounted on into 40cm ones.

I shall update this post later when that is done...

UPDATE: My plan to conquer the universe using only a stick widen the ramplates worked!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39050Dell Stripes 5.png)

DS is expressing his distaste in American politicians. Actually the way that the ramplates are tilted kinda reminds me of Naryar's GTM avatar.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Sage on August 21, 2013, 07:04:07 PM
Getting so much better in such a short time!

Also, why is my mute date in your signature...
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 21, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
Getting so much better in such a short time!

Thank you for the compliment :mrgreen: <-- I am like that irl, except I am not green.

Also, your mute date is in my signature because I thought that it was ironic (and somewhat funny) that such a respected user got muted. I'll remove it if you want me to.

Please don't hurt me if my stock bots have red extenders...
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Sage on August 22, 2013, 01:25:53 AM
Getting so much better in such a short time!

Thank you for the compliment :mrgreen: <-- I am like that irl, except I am not green.

Also, your mute date is in my signature because I thought that it was ironic (and somewhat funny) that such a respected user got muted. I'll remove it if you want me to.

Please don't hurt me if my stock bots have red extenders...

Haha no I thought it was funny. Didn't think you new guys even knew who I was lol

Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 22, 2013, 05:01:38 AM
I officially believe in your magical beard, Sage.

36HS take 2. Aaaaaand ACTION!

I have time to fiddle around with fuddy-duddy MW popups later. For now, it is time...

TIME TO UNLEASH THE BASTARD!!!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40698Bloodthirsty Bastard 1.png)
Armor is DSA+6 Belly casters.

Meet Bloodthirsty Bastard, my second attempt at a 36HS after the first (the one with pole spikes) failed miserably.

It has everything a 36HS should have (according to the wiki): two supervolts (stacked), 4 HPZ for weapon motors, 2WD HPZ with Grannies, and DSA armor. The wiki says that a true 36HS needs to have irons or maces, but I once heard R0B0SH4RK say that the wiki is biased and is a bad resource for more seasoned builders.

I'm no seasoned builder, but I agree with R0B0. There are too many holes in the wiki. For example, there is no page on the snapper2 burst motors and most of the DSL motors don't have their own pages. I mostly rely on the beetlebros. stock building tutorial and only check the wiki to learn useless crap about the other forum members.

Back to the Bastard, its favorite snack is a tie between three EMERGENCIES at once and Burgerville milkshakes.

Bear claws because 090901 said that they were much better than pole spikes. Also, Bear claws are more efficient (using Clickbeetle's efficiency formula) than maces IIRC.

There is empty space because I originally thought that the chassis needed to be wider than it really needed to be. I won't change it because I am lazee. But hey, at least I am honest and doesn't keep secrets from people.

Sage. https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=9641.msg477874#msg477874 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=9641.msg477874#msg477874)

I know that it isn't the best 36HS out there, but it is the best thing I have built in Stock so far, though it suffers from an odd glitch on the right drive motor (this pic was taken from the front of the bot) where the axle is not in its normal place and the wheel shakes whenever the axle turns. It must be karma from the Bastard's ridiculous blood lust.

 :thumbup Highly destructive, battery lasts long enough to see its opponent/victim die, invertible, belly casters.
 :thumbdown Slow drive, exposed motors make it popup food

Enough of my nOnSeNsE rambling, now it is your turn to state your opinion on the Bastard.

In other words: Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on August 22, 2013, 05:23:58 AM
Do you know how to snapper load? If not you should learn how to, since then you can easily place all the motors on each side on one 20cm extender.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Sage on August 22, 2013, 11:57:01 AM
I do have a video tutorial on Snapper loading. Seeing as you dug up my old iron spaghetti thread, I'm sure you know where to find it.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on August 22, 2013, 04:19:35 PM
UNLEASH HIM AGAIN!!!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7869Bloodthirsty Bastard 2.png)

I took the advice of 090901 and Sage and snapper loaded the drive motors onto the Bastard. This saved 8Kg, which was used on a seventh belly caster.

I already knew how to snapper load when building the Bastard, I just didn't think of doing it :gawe:

Technically, I would have had enough weight for a seventh belly caster, SLD (Snapper Loaded Drive) or not, but I thought that I should do what the vets suggested that I do. Now, I have some weight left over for an eighth belly caster, but I don't have anywhere on the chassis to put it :(

Thoughts?

Also...

I unstacked the supervolts and used the remaining one for something else ;)

This is the "something else" that received Dell Stripes' extra supervolt when I separated them.. I was hinting the existence of BB when I was showcasing Dell Stripes. I even said when DS first surfaced:

Quote from: rnifnuf
Well, back to the old drawing board for the worst 36HS.

The Worst 36HS is no longer...

Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on September 29, 2013, 01:42:35 PM
Blatant bump alert.

And now, a lightweight:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17052RNF Roly Poly 1.png)

Armor is DSA. The name? Roly Poly.
Continuing with the remakes of Stock AI bots, I made this dastardly device to replace Team Prehistoric's rammer Roly Poly. Those are six axe heads, in two rows of three stacked axes because 3*2=6 (HOORAY FOR MATH!).

This thing is one of the fastest and most destructive lightweights I have ever made. But perhaps I will downgrade the armor to plastic and add another axe head.

 :thumbup

 :thumbdown

I might use the remakes for an AI pack, but that isn't certain.

EDIT: Also invertible

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Jonzu95 on September 29, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
Invertible or not?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Fracture on September 29, 2013, 05:39:15 PM
Don't really see the point of stacking all the axes together; like you mentioned it makes it HS food. I'd make the weapon "rack" wider to make it more stable and less vulnerable to HS, even if it increases chassis space. And go for a weapon without normals; it'll do more damage even with a rammer. I like irons, or maces if it's a SnapperII setup.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on September 29, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
Using PNG's cause the quality is better.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71553torment.PNG)

Torment - 6 lower razors (new personal record) and 3 upper razors.

Popup and -less of a- HS killer. Also one-hit-KO bot.

I can get you screenshots if anyone wants some...

but yeah... you should really get more weapons on there if you dont want it to just explode and die the moment it sees any sort of HS. maybe have a single row of weapons with irons, and/or  use 2 pinks instead of a nifty.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 13, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
Update.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39334RNF Roly Poly 2.png)
Armor is still DSA.

The bottom-center is actually three razors stacked together, so there are 8 razors in total.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on October 13, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
looks better, but that H chassis you have going on is wasting weight. a chassis setup like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/j6eNJ.jpg)
...should save more than a few kgs. then you might be able to upgrade some of the razors to irons or maces.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 13, 2013, 12:43:38 PM
Is this acceptable?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86880RNF Roly Poly 3.png)

It has high and low irons to attack both spinners and wedges.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on October 13, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
yeah, that chassis looks alright. you could always use 2 sideways BA's instead of a 1 BA + t connector setup to make sure you cant lose your whole rack in 1 hit, and save a whole 1kg too.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Fracture on October 14, 2013, 08:25:48 AM
Be careful with the angling of the irons; if any of them are touching the ground while ramming they won't do damage.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 14, 2013, 09:48:10 PM
Be careful with the angling of the irons; if any of them are touching the ground while ramming they won't do damage.

Oh yeah, that's right :rage

In the mean time, I made a MW HS.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/25430Mace of Spades 1.png)
Armor is Plastic because DSA was too heavy, sad face :(

Meet Mace of Spades, a MW HS that I just made. Its design is based off of a LW HS that I made before it called Rude Bot (coming soon). While building RB, I encountered numerous headaches with the blue snappers, so I built it off of a green one. When I tried to do the same for MoS, I ran into the rule of seven, my archenemy :vista: As a workaround, I just used two green snappers, but even this has its problems.

Its kinda like Fury, except worse :dumb)

Much, much worse.

 :thumbup Highly destructive, moderate drive
 :thumbdown Plastic armor (what's your excuse?), low battery life, wobbles as it spins even with all 12 maces

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on October 14, 2013, 10:50:50 PM
It's plastic because you spent too much weight on bursting it. Ideally you should only have a single Snapper II for the whole setup.

It looks pretty clean though, so I still like it.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 15, 2013, 12:53:22 AM
Ideally you should only have a single Snapper II for the whole setup.

I wish I could, but what is ideal is not always possible, and what is possible is not always ideal. See, I would make a great Chinese philosopher XD

Anyways, I updated Mace of Spades.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84555Mace of Spades 2.png)
Armor is now DSA.

I had to use 2 blue snappers because... RULE OF SEVEN  :rage I'D CHAIN A BUNCH OF RAGE SMILEYS IN A ROW BUT I WOULD LIKELY GET WARNINGIZED (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=14143.msg601073#msg601073) FOR IT!

But this is an improvement over the previous MoS. It should be invertible now (the previous one wasn't). Arguably best of all, it lowered the wobblibilityness.

 :thumbup All-encompassing macey terror, fairly stable, DSA Armor, Invertible (?)
 :thumbdown Has all of the problems that a HS has (slow drive, loses weapons easily, hard to drive, republican, etc.)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on October 15, 2013, 01:07:08 AM
Drive is more than fine, actually. (And you could check out some showcases in how to do it with a single snapper)

And that looks solid. Might be a potentially nice SnS hybrid, although see if you can upgrade the drive to Z-Tek+Shinies first (it should still be invertible).
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on October 15, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
IMO putting maces on 2 extenders like that is worse than putting them on one extender just because it seems the extenders get hit so much easier.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 16, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
Tempus Fugit, eat your heart out.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26607Rude Bot 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

After an hour of snapper loading, eFFeing, realizing that the setup is not right, random coughing fits, rinsing and repeating, Rude Bot is here!

Its Mace of Spade's little brother, to put it simply. Z-teks, RAD drive, ridiculous stacking, and all of the crap a modern a modern Stock LW HS needs.

You could say that it is the very model of a modern Lightweight Stock HS.

 :thumbup Everything except drive
 :thumbdown Horrendous drive (really good in theory, but the wheels barely touch the ground so it sucks)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Sage on October 17, 2013, 01:49:41 AM
Can you fix the setup so the wheels touch the ground better?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 18, 2013, 12:53:19 AM
Can you fix the setup so the wheels touch the ground better?

I can so I did fixed the drivingizer devices thingies :gawe: (but seriously, I fixed the drive issue)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30138Rude Bot 2.png)
Armor is still DSA.

The problem before was that the snapper was too high in the chassis, causing the wheels to barely touch the ground, because it was on top of the control board. When I moved the control board to the top of the Nifty, it gave me space in the chassis to move the Snapper down in the chassis and allow the wheels to touch the ground.

The new angle of the ground clearance in the back slightly angles the whole bot forward. Whether this is an advantage or a disadvantage isn't clear, however.

Now it is the very model of a modern Lightweight Stock HS.

 :thumbup Everything except not invertible
 :thumbdown Not invertible. Also has a case of the wobbles.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Sage on October 18, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
Needs to be invertible >:D

but nice work.


also the  new tempus fugit has a plow. sooo..... i wouldn't say you build the definition of the LW HS :P
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 22, 2013, 12:49:54 AM
also the  new tempus fugit has a plow. sooo..... i wouldn't say you build the definition of the LW HS :P
also the  new tempus fugit has a plow.
has a plow.
a plow.
plow.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: 090901 on October 22, 2013, 07:00:49 AM
That is sweet, shame about the AGOD though.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on October 22, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
Take off the wheels and put them back on again. That might be why it doesn't drive straight.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Badnik96 on October 22, 2013, 10:36:56 AM
Certainly different, don't think anyone else has tried a spin motor hammer in Stock. Shame about the agod though.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on October 22, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
my robot FuZioN was supposed to be a MW torque hammer, kind of like yours, but AGOD forced me to make it a spin-motor popup.
if you attach the HPZ statically (i.e. on a baseplate anchor), the AGOD might (might, as in, no guarantee) subside. i would recommend against actually mounting it on the baseplate, because as i found, its likely to AGOD anyway if its on the baseplate directly.

Take off the wheels and put them back on again. That might be why it doesn't drive straight.
no... the trick is to attach the wheels before you make it asymmetrical. if he just reattaches the wheels right now it will still veer.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 22, 2013, 06:58:06 PM
Take off the wheels and put them back on again. That might be why it doesn't drive straight.
What's really strange is that I followed the exact same building procedure as I did for Rude Bot (did I mention that this is actually Rude Bot's chassis?), yet it is still bad at driving. To be fair, it does have a "Made in China" sticker on it.

That is sweet, shame about the AGOD though.

Actually, the AGOD isn't that bad. Perhaps its karma for using red extenders to annoy Sage. But I still say it: AGODDAMNIT :vista:

I made something similar in DSL. It should be up by the time you read this post.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 25, 2013, 12:17:16 AM
Insert clever and witty intro here for this thig. I don't know; I'm bushed and I have to get up at 6am tomorrow for jazz band

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/46485Razing the triBar 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

Hi my name is rnifnuf and this is Razing the triBar, otherwise known as RttB (he's case-sensitive). None of you have any idea of how much I had to sacrifice for the extra 12 razors.

Quote from: you
Wait, so that means...
That's right: Razing the triBar has 48 razors.

It's supposed to be some kind of SnS hybrid like Spin Doctor, but it havoks when it sits and spins :rage. Although, it might be because the weapon motors are all set to spin counterclockwise at the same time.

It doesn't have a second black in it, nor does it have castor armor. Maybe that's why it havoks.

SUMMARY:


Advantages:

Disadvantages:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Virus Bomb on October 25, 2013, 12:03:30 PM
add some casters for bottom armor.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2013, 02:21:17 PM
Nice, don't like how you made your stabilizers though- they could be lighter
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on October 25, 2013, 03:32:09 PM
Nice, don't like how you made your stabilizers though- they could be lighter

There are no stabilizatorizinatifiers on Razing the triBar.

My next order of business is to add the four casters that will fit on the bot. Technically 8 will fit under the chassis but I'm only using four because Gabriel Interactive is dumb and forgot to make the casters weigh 3kg instead of 6. In other words... weight constraints :rage

I will get to work on that at some point in time.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on November 27, 2013, 02:04:24 AM
The Dastardly Duo: One-month bump AND double post. But I assure you, 'twas not a useless one-month bump/double post hybrid, for I have a new bot.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14335Compaq RAM 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

This bot is called Compaq RAM, even though Compaq never actually made their own RAM from what I can find.

If I were asked to summarize how this bot was made, I would say this:

SMMUARY:
Name: Compaq RAM
Weight class: Lightweight
Bot type: Rammer
Armor: DSA
Weapon: 8 Irons
Battery: 1 Nifty
Drive: 2WD HPZ with Shinies
Weapon power: Drive

ADVANTAGES:
+Really fast
+Damaging
+Invertible

DISADVANTAGES:
-Can't turn to save its life
-Somewhat prone to attacks, especially from VS/popup
-Somewhat havok-prone

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on November 27, 2013, 02:47:50 AM
Looks nice. Bit underweight though, maybe stack a caster where you can.

I would move the weapons forward but I can't think of a better setup than you so...
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on December 08, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
Pneumonia sucks. Bleh :P Here have a 36HS.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59779Hackey Stack 1.png)
Armor is DSA, stacked supervolts because I am only 31% lazy and I took the five seconds it took to stack them.

They call it Hackey Stack because it looks cheaty in spite of the fact that it is 100% legit. It took about an hour to build and was surprisingly easy. The snappers are angled slightly downward because snappers are stupid and keep resetting the position of the weapon motors. This bot does not have any AGOD whatsoever. I know, it's a miracle.

SUMMARY:
Name: Hackey Stack
Weight class: Heavyweight
Bot type: Horizontal spinner
Armor: DSA.
Weapon: 36 maces
Battery: 2 supervolts, stacked
Drive: 2WD HPZ with Grannies
Weapon power: 4 HPZ

ADVANTAGES:
+Destructive
+Fast
+Compact
+Pole spike-free

DISADVANTAGES:
-Havoks when it turns (No HS/SNS for me :rage)
-No castor armor, so it is popup food.
-Kinda messy

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on December 08, 2013, 09:38:36 PM
Move the snappers further apart so you could stuff the black between them. Saves space and weight for 2 casters.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: KOS on December 10, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
looks awesome, i like how you did the extenders and the weapon motors. Glad to see i'm not the only one doing 36 hs's. only downside is the extra space and no external armour. Keep up the good work :D
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on January 24, 2014, 11:51:37 PM
Hi I'm rnifnuf and I'm a bumpaholic.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17834Buzzsaw 2 1.png)
Armor is DSA, the weapon motor is HPZ.
I'm out of clever ways to introduce bots. Here is Buzzsaw, named so because it was originally a sawbot, then I realized that Stock sawbots really suck about as much as... things that really suck.

ADVANTAGES:
+Somewhat fast
+Good fast weapons
+Invertible
+Highly funky

DISADVANTAGES:
-Exposed weapon motor
-PHB (Potential Havoklear Bomb: A bot that could potentially cause extreme havok explosions)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on January 25, 2014, 01:35:59 AM
turn the snapper around so you won't have to use extenders for the motor at all
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on January 25, 2014, 01:44:26 AM
Or: you can just use 3 baseplate anchors. That frees up enough weight for you to upgrade to Ztek drive. It also won't havok at all.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: KOS on January 25, 2014, 07:27:21 AM
You can make then chassis a lot smaller. Shrink it so the nifty and the snapper only just fit, but only place the snapper. Then attach the T then snapper load and then place the nifty. (saves alot of weight)
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on January 26, 2014, 12:27:50 AM
Or: you can just use 3 baseplate anchors. That frees up enough weight for you to upgrade to Ztek drive. It also won't havok at all.
Or: I could use two, as I did here:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56671Buzzsaw 2.png)
Armor is still DSA.
I decided to make it an undercutter HS. Its no longer a PHB. I also added Z-tek drive. Stacking the anchors like that was easier said than done. Wow, these are really short sentences.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: MassimoV on January 26, 2014, 12:31:46 AM
I would still use 3. If you're going to make it an undercutter, I'm thinkning you could shorten the chassis, stack the drive baseplate anchors,and if you can't stack the 3rd one into the same space as the other 2, raise it above them.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on January 26, 2014, 12:56:51 AM
But you used 6kg on extenders when using two BA's...
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Badnik96 on January 27, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
I really don't like irons mounted like that, just something about it makes it look kinda sloppy.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: KOS on January 27, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
(from badniks advice) try using 2 extenders on the tribar, then attach the irons, this means that they hit at the same time. (do more damage)
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on February 21, 2014, 10:49:10 PM
So I wanted to make servos not completely useless, then this happened. Consider it an experimental bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/78605JoAT Stock Prototype 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

This is Sir Jack-of-Alltrades, a VS/HS/Rammer hybrid thing. It changes its weapon by way of a 702 Servo motor which the horizontal disc is attached to. I have actually had this idea for a while, but never got around to following through until now. It has grannies to help the VS component stay off of the ground. And yes, this is the same exact chassis used by both Compaq RAM AND Buzzsaw, who is up for renaming.

ADVANTAGES:
+The Jack of all Trades

DISADVANTAGES:
-Master of none.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Wacky Bob on February 22, 2014, 07:22:59 AM
Good luck AI'ing this.

It doesn't look like the razors would stick out too much when you switch to rammer mode, but am I wrong?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on February 22, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
what the ****

edit: oh wait it's a servo modulable weapon ? :O
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on February 22, 2014, 11:19:54 AM
Servos aren't even completely useless anyway if you use them for something like an S.O.B. kind of clamp.
You might as well just ditch the servo and make it a rammer/HS hybrid, this setup just isn't working out.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on March 16, 2014, 11:14:45 PM
I COMMAND THY SHOWCASE TO RE-EXIST!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/51628WRATH 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

This is the Wide Ravenous Attack That Hurts, otherwise known as W.R.A.T.H. It uses servos to get all of the weapon Z-Teks on extenders as shown. I figured out that if you slightly angle the extenders slightly higher than intended, the Z-teks will weigh it down and get the extenders in the desired position. The square extenders are of the 140cm kind. It also has grannies to make it invertible-ish.

ADVANTAGES:

+Highly destructive
+Fairly wedgirific
+Strikes fear into its opponents

DISADVANTAGES:
-Abysmal battery life
-Kinda slow, especially when the battery runs low.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Jonzu95 on March 17, 2014, 07:43:05 AM
Does it have 1 or two blacks?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Virus Bomb on March 17, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
if your wedges are going to be that narrow you might as well just use a single wedge.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: KOS on March 17, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
I really like the look of that FS (shebeast?), it would probably be better if you ditched the 2 snappers for a single ddt wedge, downgrade to shiney's and get another black in. Good job ;)
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on March 19, 2014, 01:10:50 AM
Good job, thy showcase. I commanded thee to re-exist, and re-exist thou did. Anyways, W.R.A.T.H. has been updated. He is ready...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30754WRATH 2.png)
Armor is still DSA.

I stacked the blacks, gave it a DDT wedge, and gave it shiny wheels. Also, KOS_Flow is cool.

ADVANTAGES:
+Ravenous
+Wedge is good
+Lasts more than five seconds

DISADVANTAGES:
-Poor handling and speed
-Not invertible

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Badnik96 on March 19, 2014, 07:04:38 AM
heh it's like my hw face mauler was actually good
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Thyrus on March 19, 2014, 07:21:58 AM
Good job, thy showcase.


well thank you :)
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: KOS on March 19, 2014, 10:44:05 AM
Looks brilliant, good job  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on March 19, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
me thinks you would really need 4wd on that
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: shedRift on March 19, 2014, 05:14:37 PM
Why is it not a rectangle?  I have read that less surface area means less weight.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mecha on March 19, 2014, 08:05:38 PM
You could use snapper IIs instead of servos and attach more drive with the back attachment point.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Enigm@ on March 23, 2014, 02:37:02 AM
you gon get raped with only 1 wedge
and you don't need wheel guards, if a bot gets to your wheels its just delaying the inevitable b/c you're probably not gonna be able to get out from it
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Kossokei on March 23, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
I wanna think those are less wheelguards and more protection from hs but ehhh

I know nozink
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on April 11, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
bmup.
I wanna think those are less wheelguards and more protection from hs but ehhh
Correct. Those are more to protect the weapon motors than the wheels.

But all that is about to become irrelevant, because I have a new bot I threw together in half an hour.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74190Iron Sprinter 1.png)
Armor is DSA.
This is the Iron Sprinter because... it is fast and it has irons--eight of them to be precise.

ADVANTAGES:

+Fast
+Invertible
+Has irons
+Has ramplates for armor on the sides that were initially supposed to only protect the extenders but ended up doubling as wheelguards.
+Not a PHB.

DISADVANTAGES
-Fairly unarmored other than the ramplates for armor on the sides that were initially supposed to only protect the extenders but ended up doubling as wheelguards.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Pwnator on April 11, 2014, 05:11:08 AM
Ditch the ramplates to add 2 more spikes at the front and 2 maces at the side. That, and angle the extenders in an alternate fashion for lateral defense.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on June 07, 2014, 12:23:23 AM
The Twelfth Harvest has arrived!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/46091Twelfth Harvest 1.png)
Armor is DSA.

I made this vertical spinner today. It is a re-design of another spinner that I made earlier. The problem with the original spinner was that it was underweight and unstable. This fixed those problems.

ADVANTAGES:
+Fast
+Wedgy
+Powerful
+Self-righting

DISADVANTAGES:
-Poor battery life, it only has a single black.

COMING SOON:
*Another black battery, stacked on top of the existing one.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Bubbleman on June 07, 2014, 03:25:00 AM
Add that other battery and you should be set. Looks good.
Was this for flipping bots over or for damage?

(Only took 4 years, but i'm finally a heavyweight. :D [/off topic])
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Gazea2 on June 07, 2014, 06:25:58 AM
You might wanna flip the wedges 180 degrees so that they're wider. Do the maces not make it bounce?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Naryar on June 07, 2014, 06:42:44 AM
looks a bit underweaponed to me.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Clickbeetle on June 10, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Do the maces not make it bounce?

First thing I thought of as well.  For some reason maces and vertical spinners typically don't mix.

Even if that bot seems stable, I bet the wedges would be better with irons.

I also question if 4WD is necessary.  But other than that, great build.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on July 28, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Necessary bump alert.

Curses! Foiled again by that meddling physics engine. :rage
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7828Unnamed MW HS SnS 1.png)
Armor is DSA.
This was a very irritating build. My goal was to build a HS/SnS hybrid with one Snapper. It took at least an hour of repeated snapper loading, more snapper loading, messing with different setups, incoherent rage, realizing that the drive system is out of alignment with the weapon system, exasperated groaning, etc. The result was a very powerful, very destructive machine... that is so ridiculously unstable that is almost unusable. Sometimes it havoks so badly that it destroys itself. It only does this around heavyweights for some odd reason.

Both weapon motors are wired to spin counter-clockwise. Annoyingly, the steering controls for the bot were reversed, but the forward/reverse controls are not. This game makes no sense whatsoever, but when has that been news?

ADVANTAGES:
+Fast
+Powerful
+Invertible
+Destructive
+Does long division

DISADVANTAGES:
-DHB (Definite Havoklear Bomb: Prone to bad havok explosions.)
-Poor handling when inverted

Thoughts?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Bubbleman on July 28, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
You may want to just use two anchors to attach the motors. Less havok, more sweep.
Good effort though.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on July 28, 2014, 11:06:45 AM
To clarify, the bot doesn't always havok. When it doesn't havok, it usually rips the other bot to shreds. If the SnS part makes it too unruly, I could always just make it an HS. I don't intend to do that, however. The weapon system is also off-center compared to the drive. That might have to do with its instability.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Bubbleman on July 28, 2014, 11:24:15 AM
SnS weapons don't have to be on the same line you know, you can offset them but they must be balanced. Look at Badnik's Lilapsophobia or Kos' Insta Swap for recent examples.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mecha on July 28, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Or Killing Top.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Mr. AS on July 28, 2014, 11:27:55 AM
Put the drive on two baseplate anchors and get rid of the secondary extenders on the spinner.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: rnifnuf on July 28, 2014, 11:32:06 AM
SnS weapons don't have to be on the same line you know, you can offset them but they must be balanced. Look at Badnik's Lilapsophobia or Kos' Insta Swap for recent examples.
I should have been more clear when I said "Off Center." By that, I meant that the weapon motors' axles were not perfectly perpendicular to the drive motors' axles. The game seems to have fixed that for me.

Also it only havoks when it does more than three matches in a row. I can fix it by closing the game and re-launching it. Like I said, this game makes no sense.
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Contraptions
Post by: rnifnuf on July 28, 2015, 11:57:18 PM
Oh dear, it has been a year. Two variations of one bot are now here!

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88718OLJI 1.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/53650OLJR 1.png)

Armor is DSA. They are the same bot, except for weapons.

They don't have a name yet, so I just called them--get ready for this--O LONG JOHNSON
The idea is the same: Heavyweight VS, 2WD, excellent frontal armor, one black each, wedges with DDTs. The only difference between them is the weapons and 8kg.

Pros:
-Good front armor
-Plenty of battery power
-Both versions are strong
-Wedgy

Cons:
-Underweight (I cannot decide to do with the last 50kg)
-Slow
-Neither version can easily self-right
-Exposed motors
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: R1885 on July 29, 2015, 12:06:51 AM
Whats the point of the blades on the wedge extenders if they don't go past the ramplates?
Title: Re: rnifnuf's Stock Cavalcade of Crap
Post by: Reier on July 29, 2015, 12:18:58 AM
2 blacks?